LARGE BRUSH FIRE on ISLAND Manasquan Inlet Point Pleasant Beach, New Jersey 1/26/22 

I agree.

Me to

As they said, the one had a broken pump and many others in the area were winterized. I might agree that having a fire boat winterized is not great cause fires do happen in all seasons but I also understand the issues that come with boats when we have had days with lows near 0 and highs that were 20 or less. There's some point where you have to compromise between not having the boat in service in winter and not having the boat at other times because things froze and broke trying to keep it in service all year round.

It was Ciast Guard, not city.

Right!!

Lol

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@@Tac0Tuesday91 The EPA, you just made that up, nice one though. Fire Departments have no legal duty to act.

@@Tac0Tuesday91 I’m curious as to where you came up with your EPA information. Post a link to it if you can. I’d be interested to read it. Because I find it interesting that the NJFS purposely conducts controlled burns each year that literally fill miles of NJ air with smoke for days at a time. I’m pretty sure a state level government agency, that often works in conjunction with the EPA/DEP, will not conduct an operation that would jeopardize their own existence. That would also suggest that fire departments across the state would be given citations on a daily basis for fires they couldn’t control in a rapid fashion. Think of some of the recent major fires in north Jersey that had warehouses burning for days, or the rows of homes in central Jersey that couldn’t be extinguished during the flooding conditions. Or the fuel tender fire along the turnpike that was left to burn until manageable. There have been plenty of fires in recent years where the fire departments did not or could not take immediate action or achieve extinguishment in a rapid fashion. I would be inclined to believe that fire departments and their methods of conducting operations would be excluded from citations due to the complexity and dynamic conditions present at a fire.

Wildland firemen are always in bunker gear, I have a friend who is a wildland fire fighter

@@bradmagnuson6963 No, Brad. You are misinformed.

@@Sabre2165 no, I'm not.

@@Sabre2165 no, I'm not.

@@bradmagnuson6963 wildland firefighters wear wildland gear (green pants and yellow shirt is the most common). The gear that Anson is talking about is structural gear. It is a huge no no to wear structural gear near water. If you fall in, you will sink faster than you can get out of your gear

You don't need a plan for 3 burning reeds! 2 guys with a bucket of water would have been enough! They were totally inefficient and a disgrace for their profession!

Possible separate video with only that view!

Litteraly u could Hve gotten a hose and a pump to extract water on a normal boat no that hard or could have used a latter

Scanner or setting them

Helo was on standby.

Helo was requested but supervisor for forest fire service told them to stand down

Yes I’m actively monitoring the fly charts also vis dji tells me if air craft is near I had NJFFS heli on local and it never took off knowing I was clear to fly once they got on scene I came down

Thats far from wildland conditions, more grass fire...only sea grass

What do you want them to wear safety Bob?

Well, typically on a grass fire you wear wildland fire gear. Not a crazy concept. Every department should keep it on hand. Bunkers are great until, like this situation, you should be in wildland gear digging a quick handline before that wind shift.

@@kellenphillips68 Not every dept gets brush fires often. Most NJ fire depts do not carry wildland gear. Most NJ depts don't have the budget for wildland gear.

Wildland gear is cheap. Regardless, I said wear station wear, but not bunkers. But every fire department should train on wildland fires at least once a year. It's not just a midwest thing

Yes

My dad is still active with Point Boro (Station 75). He said they put the onboard pump in service and supplied a long hand line onto the island. They had a company cleanup tonight for a whole lot of hose, and some cleanup & maintenance for the Brick house fire. He drove the rescue for the FAST team call. They got rotated in towards the end for some help with overhaul.

BS!!!! all they needed was the Tower, the damn thing's got a lifting rating higher then the weight of the boat!! Rope 4 points on the boat and use the Tower like a crane it's not that F'n hard!!!

Maybe it is because of all the Marinas and buildings that are maybe 150 ft South of that island with a pretty good wind coming from the Northwest Ambers blowing onto fiberglass boats loaded with fuel. -- yikes

Like you can do better? Keyboard quarterback

Meanwhile, down wind from the fire is a marina and nearby homes. You do the math

@@bradmagnuson6963 Then set up to protect that area. Putting firefighters in the water in bunker gear. Not smart. And if you are speaking of the marina near Rt35 I'm pretty sure the fire isn't going to jump the river. If there is another marina on the island then I apologies.

@@toddayres7298 they did protect it. Did you notice they put the fire out? Pay attention

My question is why don’t point beach have a fire boat?! We live on the beaxh

@@jerseyshorefireresponse probably not enough money in the budget to purchase a fire boat

Many of the fire response boats that are nearby the town are taken out of the water for the season and varies each year

@@man4054 it's also a question of, if there's enough money in the budget to purchase a fire boat

@@bradmagnuson6963 correct. Which I can tell you 100%, the budget is not there to purchase and maintain the boat year round

There is no way to get fire engines to this

Never said there was. Hence my comment asking the marina for help getting firefighters to the fire. It's an easy fire made difficult due to a lack of creativity and firefighting techniques.

@@bradmagnuson6963 engines, no but I know that in the past you could walk over the small bridge by Spikes and get out there on foot so I was surprised that NJFFS didn't just contact transit, hop the tracks and drive over. I know the island is somewhat dynamic so it may not be possible anymore if the area next to the tracks out there has gone marshy but I've seen those guys bomb thru the woods plenty of times so it surprised me they didn't go that route. Then again, I'm not sure why they didn't just let it go as long as far as the tracks and just protect that as the only exposure.

@@alexkitner5356 you can't drive over a footbridge

@@bradmagnuson6963 its not a footbridge, its a train bridge. There's no footbridge out to the island but the west side of the island is the causeway section of the rail crossing of the river and there's a small bridge on the south side.

1. Fire wasn’t anywhere near the rails. 2. There about 1foot of muck/water to get to this area from the tracks if it’s even possible at the right tide. None of that woulda worked.

What’s the saw gonna do Smokey?

A saw won't do any good on grass

Helo was on standby, wasn't needed

They did after ff service got there. Had 30 plus minute ETA

For around here lol.

@@jerseyshorefireresponse yes that's large for around here exactly. I'm from Ocean Grove we can talk fires all day.

I go kayaking near there. Not a big fire, you're right. But with homes and businesses so close in this area and the high price of real estate, ANY fire can be a threat to people and property, particularly with heavy wind.

What would that do for me?

LoL.. obviously your a arm chair fire fighter and have no idea what you're talking about.

Not possible

Obviously you don’t know what your talking bout, pull a few hundred feet from from truck tow it over hook to boat hookup and hit it better that way. Tjey waited to long to try that in the video you see them pull a bundle of hose but it’s only 100 ft look like.

@@JJDaBossOutdoors what you're suggesting, is not possible to do so

@@bradmagnuson6963 while I don't think it would be necessary here, just to think outside the box or play devils advocate, why not? There's almost nobody running this time of year out of that basin so boat traffic isn't an issue and could be handled even if there was any, the channel there isn't that deep and its at most a couple hundred feet across in the widest spot. At worst the line sinks to the bottom but water would still flow, you could even grab a few pot line balls from the lobster guys and tie them on to keep it from sinking if that was the concern. Run a 2-1/2 over, take a gated wye and a couple bundles of 1-1/2 or 1 inch trash line over and you're set. I wouldn't bother to do it when the fire is on an island with virtually no exposures but I'm curious why you think it couldn't be done.

In that town this is literally the only place where there's any open ground to burn other than a couple tiny spots around small ponds that are with 20 feet of a street. There's a cost versus reward point on any equipment and the reward from purchasing gear meant for brush fires doesn't justify the cost in this situation where 99.99% of the calls are structural or vehicle. At some level training (while always good) is also more beneficial to them to be spent practicing structural firefighting or extrication or RIT than on wildland when there's little frequency and in this case on an island where other than train tracks on the other end there's no real hazard to people or property. If anything I'm surprised they didn't just let it burn and make sure embers didn't carry to anything of value.

Turn your sound off, if you don't want to listen

Go ask the NJFFS for their plane that they outsource on contract during the spring season to do water drops. Know your facts before you throw a jumble of sentences together that make no sense 🤣