Lars Madsen Interview - psychologist who works with criminals and psychopaths 

Psychopathy is a whole nother level. I literally saw the haughty mode in devalue overnight in him. One day fine, the next i was thinking somethings happened but i dont know what. The mask drop at the end. He looked 5yrs old seriously. It gives you a whole new world view. Dr jekyll and mr hyde movie...i was running let me tell you! You are just not expecting what you see. He was living in the moment. They are award winning grammy actors. Would love to be able to talk with you guys...this was 4 years ago. I looked into that mans eyes many times. Let me tell you he cannot fall in love. He knew he told me what he was.please do not minimalise this as it ruined my life. I do feel for them though. Not being able to connect properly to people..

The fact that these guys attend therapy in the first place, then stick at it and do the hard work is kudos to them 🤜🏻

Thank you for promoting that I’m not a monster.

There’s an episode by SBS Insight that featured James Fallon. Lars was one of the audience members, so it feels like a small world seeing a video of you interviewing him! I‘m glad you got him on here.

Create prisons where people dont need to be on constant survival mode. Stupid prison system.

One of the BEST videos I've seen! It was informative and inspiring 👏

An "evil" person or a "monster" is someone who has done and proven they are capable of more of those evil, monsterous and unthinkable acts. That doesnt mean they do that 24/7 but the dangers are very real and they have proven its been done by them and more likely than not of them doing it again. Theraphy like a lion trainer may appear to train or break lions of their past behaviors but really have not. At any time they can take on the upper hand if you are not controlling them and everything around them at all times. Trying to paint the people who murder and do very abusive behaviors as anything but not... is the very same rational the abused use when they are in denial of the harm in front of them yet they stay in it...Its the wounded past empathy trap that the abusers uses to keep their prey under their spell. So what, they are messed up because of how they were treated they are still what they have become...that's how they munipulate their prey to think of them as tamed when they are like wild animals instead. Until you have been literally touched by an evil person in your personal life you or others around you first hand you will never get that ....unless you stay in denial of that reality... You can study it all you want and even be around them when they are in prison. They are different when they need something from you and they are getting it than when they are not... They play games and the more free they are to be themselves and no longer need to play by the rules within the system.... its a whole different deal...If they don't feel they need to follow rules they use them against the rest of us. Speaking from knowing a family annialator personally and being married to a man who tried to kill them.... Yes in both cases they were the guys everyone loved and admired including me. The worst monsters don't come to you as monsters they come to you as loved ones and respected people to gain relationships from you and bring you one you thought you have always dreamed of but its all an illusion...That's what evil does... it comes in disquise and this evil does exist. I am no longer fooled...but feel the worst for those who don't see it as what it is, evil coming or people are too arrogant or disillusioned to believe it is possible that they will change. 😂😂😂😂😂 Those are the ones they will use, abuse, exploit and destroy if they can. They are fooling you or you are in a Narcissisic state of an ego that thinks you are the very one who can save them. They don't want to change, what they do is how they operate at the core and its too late for them but not for us to learn from, leave and avoid then at all cost!!!

Really appreciated the schema explanations

What about the ones who are not in prison, the coping mechanisms are dangerous on a level its scary!

Despite my bpd panic this is very interesting glad it was done

I had those revenge fantasies. I had them so much I started to feel worried. But I sat myself down and imagined the person was actually physically present and realised I didn’t have that in me. I haven’t had them since. This was really interesting. Thank you for sharing ☺️

I love learning about all this kind of things 😊

Interesting, but I have an emotional need as a medical doctor and to make my internal mess complite, I was a German where 'Schema Therapy' was born. Therapy means healing. I think it sets wrong exspectations. More so as it is used more and more in interaction with pasychopaths. I would call it a treatment. Or at least think it that way. I am driven by the idea of high resonsability to protect society and not to declare healing as a result of grandious therapeutic work. What are the numbers of healt (you would maybe say no more that dangerous inmates), who had reduced their sentence based on your estimation? What are the statistics of crimes in this groupe after jail? What are the numbers of crimes who served the whole sentence? What are the numbers of new crimes of released inmates who didn't engeged in treatment? Do you have an opinion what individuals have a better social prognosis 1.or 2. psychopaths? To make my question clear. Not who are better treatable or more pleasant to work with. In behaviour outcome. Saludos cordiales desde otro lado del mundo Sud América from down under to down under

As a person who's struggled with NPD and antisocial traits, I'm very concerned about how to reach the more difficult patients. Right now, I find it interesting how an overactive amygdala can sort of "take over" the brain and narrrow-down our executive panorama. But I also wonder whether there's another dimension to this disability, whereby the parts of the brain that allow a space for executive processing may be depressed. So it's not a normal global depression, but maybe a kind of "sector depression" of certain key parts of the brain. Instead of saying people are "missing" aspects of mental functioning, it might be better to say these aspects are depressed. From that viewpoint, maybe research could focus on awakening joy and euthymic states in areas of the brain that are currently "deadened." I'm even curious if body work could help with this, since I think a lot of deadened affect may extend to the nervous system of the body. Just some ideas that occur to me, after spending years (myself) frustrated with the cluster B experience & the feeling that psychology itself may have room to consider completely unprecedented viewpoints in how we conceptualize of the neurological framework that presents these troubling and disabling disorders. I say disabling, because when the executive panorama is sufficiently compromised, we're talking one of the parts of the mind that is most important to even being able to approach a state of behavioral continence.

This was a fantastic interview! Thanks to you both ❣

I once knew someone whose mother worked with these sadistic stalker types. She had them follow me to the library and break into my private dwelling, before overtly terrorizing me and deliberately destroying my life thru predatory criminal human rights-defiling gang stalking.

Very insightful. I suspect that my sister is a type 1 psychopath....

Yay!

The sense of revenge, that fantasy you talk, is about getting some justice... at least in our minds! It's not an idea of acting upon it, but rather a "curse" on them, a movie being played where divine justice happens! Because the human justice doesn't work at all... it's very easy for someone who has not been through continuous terror and manipulation, to feel hope about them. Feel free to date them or make friendships with them... but I don't see that from you both, but you expect others to do so? Funny!

So normal peaple go through everyday life every single day having empathy and sympathy? No Im just making the point that These prisoners do need to just not hurt other peaple period I personally dont care how empathetic a person is , ESPECIALLY if they are for everyone else. And not to the peaple closest to them .

Im really confused i havw bpd but i don't manipulate and dontt take advantage. If anything ive turned down support anf money from friends etc when i was homeless as i felt bad accepting it. It triggered some insecurity as he immediately brought up bpd in type 2 psychopathy and didn't say much more 🥺🥺🥺🥺

Was quite clear he has a set opinion that bpd or whatever all havw same modes. But in different levels but then literally every human has modes to different levels. Tarring every borderline with the same brush Clearly triggered here arnt i lol i shall stop commenting now x😊

I would love if you could define my mode. I look like a Narc, but I know my limits, like any person would.

If i havw bpd does that mean im a psychopath im worrying xxx

You can’t do anything for a psychopath so why would they go to therapy?