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The cursed Timeline where Stalin had a complete total meltdown and plotted against himself then couped himself and put himself back in power

you'd think the act of 'just ignore the events to see if they autofire properly' would've been QA'd fairly easily by the first guy to go afk while testing the paranoia but... oops.

4:15 It means that the farmlands were privatley owned but heavily regulated and unionized as to ensure that the workers still had control over the land. If you want to learn more, I'd recommend reading the New Economic Policy. It was originally implemented by Lenin after the Civil war to help stimulate growth and then removed by Stalin (Trotsky supported planned economies as well) in favor of the planned economies which allowed for rapid development of heavy industry.

When I first saw this I thought "They can't be serious". How could they miss such enormous exploit. This just shows that devs don't test their game and let you do it.

Stuff aside, I think you can actually prevent a civil war without exploits in the right opposition path There's a focus where it gives you a decision that has 50% chance to assassinate Stalin (80% if you get NKVD support), in which Beria then succeeds him After that, the coup d'etat focus would instead replace Beria with Bukharin without needing a civil war Edit: Also, the exploit Feedback used is actually a bug where if you don't click anything on an event pop up, it won't give any effects after the pop up expires. It may work on basically any event, including those in mods, not just the vanilla Soviet Civil War.

It'd actually make more sense to build mils inside a puppet that you are planing to keep as a puppet, as they'll give 75% of their mills and only 25% of their civs.

Me: asking a month ago for Dave to complete Trotsky path without causing 25 world tension, with autonomous soviet republics, comecon and being able to Puppet evryone around you also Japan. Dave: *ask and you shall recieve!*

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Ok FeedBack, ok

I've tried this 4 times now and it looks like the Dev's have fixed it.

Bukharin was a proponent of the New Economic Policy, which was a carefully crafted injection of capitalism and markets into the Soviet Union. Something that Deng would adopt for China later on. Stalin would adopt the collectivization of the farmers instead. Bukharin was considered on the right (within the party) because of this and some of his other thoughts. Also was considered the heir to Lenin until Stalin used him to win support away from Trotsky and Bukharin himself.

For context about the right opposition, yes, Bukharin supported giving more autonomy to the farmers. During the Russian Civil War, Lenin implemented the "New Economic Policy", which implemented some limited forms of capitalism for farmers. This was because the civil war devastated Russia and agricultural production had plummeted. It actually stuck around until 1928 when Stalin eliminated it. There were powerful figures like Bukharin who thought it should have stayed, until Stalin eliminated them as well.

Stalin Permanent revolution confirmed ? Stir proletariat uprising in neighbouring countries ? Dave you are genius.

"Infinite number of frances" As if one wasn't too much...

If I remember correctly, Bukharin wanted to bring back the NEP, and essentially wanted to do what Deng did to China, so to being in limited free market reforms, there prob some differences between them, but I aint interested in doing a deep dive of studying either.

Im pretty sure FBG is actually secretly working with Paradox trying to find exploits.

doesn’t work on 1.12. Civil war still starts

This is quite a supreme exploit I must say.

You could remove some of the malus by doin focuses and not rushing the Civil war. "Seek support from the party" unlocks the focus to get rid of trotskyite plot. And factionlism pp gain can be removed entirely.

4:05 "We just take the civil war and push it somewhere else."

Manchuria and Inner Mongolia are different enough for it to make since to be releasable

"We are in the lonely, cold part of the world" *Looks precisely on my hometown*

Dont think I didn't hear that NOD "flame tank" audio from C&C lol

I came here for cheese I found BIG exploit that changes game. FeedBackGaming you never change :)

In this episode of Feedback Breaks Hoi, Stalin allows political discussion, everyone is unexpectedly happy.

I heard the kaer morhen theme from the witcher during the sponsor section and i felt so happy

There's always a part 2..... In our hearts

Basically the Right Opposition was an anti stalinist movement to return to both the NEP and stop collectivisation, think of modern day chinese economics or yugoslav economics where the state controls a small important aspect but leaves the rest to the market. In Hoi4 this translates to less consumer goods, because state resources are no longer being used for all of management

perfect timing for the sponsor to be fishing related

Nice. I love that exploit but I think it can be use even more.

"What I'm gonna do is mine the Atlantic *laughs like cpt Torres*"

The fact that you can actually skip the civil war.....

My condolences for the Queen’s death. I don’t like monarchies in general, but I always respected Queen Elizabeth and what she did. Not sure If I’m being presumptuous but my condolences

You should play Lithuania. They're focus tree ia actually really decent. You get to annex the entirety of Poland and get all the cores with one easy 70 day focus. Plus you get lots of civs and mills from factories, and avoid war against Germany. It's actually decent.

From what I understand anyways, the Right Opposition was a particular subset of soviet leadership after lenin died. It was represented, as it is in game, by Bukharin and Rykov. It was called that as it was the more "right wing" (still very communist) side of Marxist leninist thought. The Right Opposition wanted a continuation of the NEP established in 1921 under Lenin and taken away by Stalin in 1927. They believed that the soviet union was too agrarian and the industrial proletariat too small to actually achieve socialism, so allowing small scale private enterprise back as opposed to a top down centrally planned economy would help kickstart industrial development and eventually "grow into" socialism. Keep in mind, when the NEP was first introduced, it was a compromise the bolsheviks did to restart the absolutely devastated soviet economy after the civil war. The Rights just saw it as the true way forward instead of a bandage. This is in opposition to the collectivization and five year plans the rest of the party wanted. If all of this sounds familiar, it's because China would end up doing something similar under Deng Xiaoping in the 1970s. Which is to say that the obstensively communist nation of China is clearly a state capitalist one nowadays. (This is why stalin and the rest of the party didn't like the NEP btw, with Trotsky fearing it would just lead down to capitalism) I think if this happened to the USSR in real life then they would have ended up something like modern China today. Definitely a higher quality of life than the actual USSR gave to its citizens anyways.

I demand part II... Do it...

What, thehunter sponsored a hoi4 youtuber. This it the greatest colab in history.

Stalin ignored his paranoia for one minute and got overthrown by himself, and then chairs

But a part two for this one would be fun.

So, I requested this from Antasil and I saw this here STATISFIED!

Germany needs a Dlc to buff it I thought maybe a dlc called mittel Europa (central europe) where germany like the soviets gets buffed and gets more decisions and you can upgrade adolf and so on , Austria will be like Poland you have many paths you can choose and you can become very strong and at last Scandinavia will be treated like the Baltics all of them have something in common but also their owen ways

this doesnt work? how do you just avoid the civil war it just automatically fires?

Whats so great about setting up collaboration governments? You always use them, I dont use them personally.

Keep going guys just 99k to go

Napoleon didn't use divide and conquer, he used defeat in detail

True Dave feedback gaming moment

Brilliant

Feedback Gaming after playing the newest patch for 5 seconds:

2:25 USSR had the largest navy in the world.

I thought the lines in the add in the beginning were cracks in my screen 😂😂

Could you do this going down Trotskys path too?

Should have said: "100 000 likes of 100 000 mines" ;)

I tried do this today and not worked, the civil war began (even dont doing nothing in the event) and I only had 17 divisions and Bukharin as leader, so I think that this bug was fixed

4:24 worker cooperative rather than state enterprise. Similar to Yugoslavia under tito.

Amazing i hope i can try it before they fix it, i always go right oppo but this seems faster and saves some advisors

Isn't an event still supposed to go through a defult option, if no button was pressed?

ye Dave the right opposition was about returning to NEP so it was kinda lessez faire version of cummunism

I've tested it in a singleplayer game and it doesnt seem to work? Does anyone know what I might have done wrong

F for Queen

Hello ladies and gentlemen it is Feeeeeedback gaminggggg

It's been patches

the new focus trees are supper trigger happy with consumer goods. USSR and lithuania have so many of these consumer goods modifiers.

100k Likes? You hear that everyone? Why not?

Rest in Peace Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, we all are mourning..

what about the exploit where you can use console commands in ironman mode?

just casually using Witcher 3 music in your sponsorship haha

About the curtailment of the farms and the debates inside the bolchevik party which are actually fascinating ; Boukahrin's stance was that Russia was too backward and rural to directly implement a full collectivized economy. The workers and the peasants had to work together and hence the worker's party should'nt impose a collectivized economy to a peasantry that just had gained the owned ownership of the land (1917 you know) nor impose drastic quotas on the farmers and use the capital to develop the industry (which is actually how the USSR industrialized so quickly IRL). Basicaly it meant that the soviet economy was meant to grow at a slower yet more human pace. It also meant securing democracy inside and outside the party, even thought that depends which member of the right opposition you are talking about. Tomski for instance was more prone towards independant trades union even thought he played its part in muzzling them. In contrast Trosky's platform was one of general regimentation of the workers and the peasantry, fast industrialisation and development to make Russia an active beacon of socialism that might spure and support the revolution throughout the world. He got wierldy allied with what used to be called the "worker's opposition" (because some of its members were actually real wokers such as Chiaplakov in contrast with the many journalist, lawyers, and other petit bourgeois ascent that ruled the party) that denounced the bolchevik's bureaucratics manners, the fadding of the soviets and trade union powers, but that was merely tactic. If I had to choose back then i would have went with Boukarhin tbh.

So it is just like kaiserredux

Flame tank under flaaaAaame boy. 10:23 check it yourself

Btw u cant send eq to anybody anymore not even to Spain so no eq sending and stopping the sending to get it again

Hey feed back I found a glitch… if you spam shift click on forts you get more than 10

Let's hope paradox will never patch ot

damn dave. you broke it again

If a country is making no consumer goods for years does everyone run out of trousers?

In very simple terms, the split in the CPSU was the three camps shown in game, the right opposition led by Bukharin believed that the USSR was not ready to move towards socialism because of its relatively undeveloped industry so the USSR should continue the NEP. The Left opposition led by Trotsky argued that Stalin and the current leadership were not moving fast enough towards socialism and should speed up programmes such as Collectivisation and mass industrialisation. The centre led by Stalin argued for, well, a middle ground between the two collectivisation and industrialisation should continue at the current moderate pace. The purge was triggered by a few factors, one being that within a leninist party these factions should have basically shut up after the party voted for Stalins view, there is also arguably trustable documents from leading right and left opposition members showing that they were conspiring against the party, there was also evidence of industrial sabotage supposedly conducted by Trotskists and Bukharinite. But one of the most major triggers was the assasination of Sergei Kirov

The Rightists I believe stood for complete self-organization to agricultural affairs, meaning farmers manage their own situation. The leftists and to some-extent the centrists wanted complete agricultural centralization.

You should try the Vatican mod

Does it work with the left opposition to? ( the civil war part)

Part 2 when, FeedBackGaming?

Seems to be fixed :( tried it four times, doesn't work anymore

Paradox, pls don't fix it, it's like an easter egg how to make soft Stalin.

It's a big mistake not to build infrastructure. So it would be possible to significantly accelerate the construction of factories, resource extraction, mobility and supply of troops. But who is interested in this in such a broken game?

instead of central planned economy system of distribution its a market style system of distribution

know i know why did it became to that when i do it

i remember when a friend of mine said that "in the communisn under stalin, they where a true democracy" good times of everybody in the room unconfortably looking at him.

Did they really forget to put a timer on that? lul

The Right Opposition basically wanted to take the Soviet Union back to the "New Economic Policy", a policy enacted by Lenin as an emergency measure to allow the Bolsheviks to fight against the Whites and to create the economic conditions for a "proper" economic revolution. The NEP was more or less capitalism for smaller industries, but with a lot of oversight and active support for trade unions. Farms were privately owned by peasants, who were asked to pay a portion of their harvests as taxes (it wasn't an insane amount, though - the farms kept a reasonable amount for themselves to do with as they pleased, and they knew ahead of time how much they'd need to surrender to the government). You almost could say the Right Opposition weren't even really communists, much in the same way you'd say the PRC isn't really a communist country (which is funny because Deng Xiaoping was reported as having praised the NEP as "probably" the "most correct form of socialism").

2:13 with one

PART 2 !!!!!

part 2!

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN. RIP

fixed

would this strategy work if you go the path of romanovs?

Perfect

The left and right of the early soviet political structure was defined by Trotsky based off of but unrelated to the political spectrum used in the rest of the world today. At the time Bolshevik communism was the only allowed political ideology but just like leftists everywhere when you get 2 of them together to discuss politics you will end up with 3 ideologies and a major doctrinal dispute. The left was led by Trotsky (he came up with the definitions so of course he would associate himself with the politically best axis) and was mainly focused on internationalism believing that communism could not be achieved until the entire world was under communist governments. The center was Stalin who was focused on authoritarianism within a single country believing that only with absolute power over the state could you dictate the changes needed for communism and and that reforms should be hard and fast to achieve true communism in the shortest amount of time possible. The right was led by Bukharin and was the populists who thought that the path to communism relied on the support of the people, guided by rather then dictated to by the state and that you could not simply skip past socialism and proclaim communism or that making the entire world claim to be communist didn't matter if you were not actually working towards it. The closest equivalent to the soviet right is Vietnam's policy of socialization. As an example Stalin forced the farmers to work on large communal farms where everyone would share the work and the presumably the profits with the obvious problem that if the farm failed everyone would also starve. Bukharin's plan was for socialist land reform where farmers would farm only as much land as they could work but that land would be personal property leased from the state. That way if a farm failed the rest might not and the burden of feeding that farmer would not be overwhelming for the state. In this scenario Trotsky would ignore the entire debate and be trying to convince Mexican farmers to overthrow their government to start off the revolutionary string of dominos throughout central America.

RIP Queen Lizzy😔😔

What I'm wondering is why you always convert to cavallery as the ussr

Avoiding the civil war is neat, but Your economy is not as good as you think it is. 12:13 In Jan 1940 you have 186 factories? that's nothing- With the centre path you can reach 282 factories by Febuary of 1940 (I loaded some saves of my game to compare) The key is to rush collectivization process for the 5% construction bonus, then while doing the purges move towards the foreign experts designer focus. A fully upgraded Gosproyektstroy gives 10% extra efficeiency cap, -5% consumer goods, +5% military factory construction speed, and +10% civilian factory speed. Combine those with the Captain of industry advisor, and building civs in max infrastructure states makes you Truly massive. much bigger then the right opposition. By the time the germans declared war on me in that save, I had 386 factories to Germany's 344.

civil war tosent fire becouse you got rid of nkvd>kgb so no security forces to catch you way no mountainers in etiopia dave