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Last of Us 2 Forever Shatters Critic Review Impressions 

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The Last of Us 2 is a highly controversial game, but the critic review consensus has strayed so far from a reasonable representation of how divisive the product will be it irreparably shatters the illusion of those reviews being an effective barometer for average players.
The game can be analyzed in a conceptual way, but ignoring what it really is, in favor of what you think its trying to say from a "high art" perspective is dishonest when understanding that a review has certain expectations and requirements from its audience.
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@UpperEchelon
@UpperEchelon 4 года назад
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@opus_X
@opus_X 4 года назад
: )
@vollkerball1
@vollkerball1 4 года назад
When Kojima Productions blasted a fan, you are aware that something wrong is on the part of TLOU2
@jpvielleux
@jpvielleux 4 года назад
Even The Rad Brad has been voicing a negative opinion in his playthrough which surprised me honestly. Given, he's doing so in a very restrained manner but I did not expect him to criticize in any way. On top of that he's making some good points and since he avoided spoilers it's seemingly genuine. Like it or hate it, it's fascinating.
@tmoney360
@tmoney360 4 года назад
I liked the game but did not love it like I did the first one. It's no 10/10 but the 3 or 4/10 seem really low even with the problems of the story. I can't see myself playing this multiple times like i did the first but I thought it was overall a solid 7.5/10.
@spiderok8663
@spiderok8663 4 года назад
Do you really think no money is slipped under the table. Come on now
@craigrees6474
@craigrees6474 4 года назад
Someone should design a rotten tomatoes type voting website that rates critics.
@janky477
@janky477 4 года назад
Or, y'know, just listen to the User Scores.
@stigmaoftherose
@stigmaoftherose 4 года назад
@@janky477 when rotten tomatoes and metacritic purge negative reviews but leave the obviously fake 10/10 reviews its obvious the user reviews are almost as bad.
@Vito-jr9wl
@Vito-jr9wl 4 года назад
There is a site that does this for amazon reviews called reviewmeta.com
@laurene988
@laurene988 4 года назад
And then a rating system for the critics critic!
@SHAWSIE64
@SHAWSIE64 4 года назад
deepfreeze.it not sure if still updated
@samchaleau
@samchaleau 4 года назад
Journalists have become that guy in an art gallery who stands next to a painting in a black turtleneck shirt with glasses and stage 4 male pattern baldness and says shit like “This, is amazing”. But when you look at the art, it’s a photo of a banana taped to a wall.
@Troll_vs.
@Troll_vs. 4 года назад
That's way to much credit. They are all that but staring at a blank canvas saying" THE OPEN LANDSCAPE IS BRILLIANT! THE CREATIVITY OF LETTING ONES OWN MIND CREATE THE PAINTING IS BEYOND WORDS!"
@wompastompa3692
@wompastompa3692 4 года назад
When you say "a photo of a banana taped to a wall," do you mean; Someone taped a banana to a wall and then took a photo of it. Or Someone took a photo of a banana and then taped the photo to a wall.
@fakename2926
@fakename2926 4 года назад
Wompa Stompa yes.
@Patricswift
@Patricswift 4 года назад
The banana taped to the wall is a metaphor for spiderman's web sticking to the building. The piece of art truly makes you feel like Spiderma-
@-Ryu
@-Ryu 4 года назад
@@wompastompa3692 IT MEANS SOMETHING YOUD SEE IN AN ART GALLERY NOW STOP CONFUSING ME.
@britbloc123
@britbloc123 4 года назад
"When you use the controller it feels like you're playing a game!" - IGN 10/10
@nottoday3817
@nottoday3817 4 года назад
Is this really on the page?
@stephenwoods74
@stephenwoods74 4 года назад
Bravo. Nailed it right on the head 👌
@anon-le9fp
@anon-le9fp 4 года назад
Wha.. I never knew this abomination is a game
@blakea.wittenberg5685
@blakea.wittenberg5685 3 года назад
"really makes you FEEL like a gamer!" - IGN, 10/10
@genox3636
@genox3636 2 года назад
😂🤣🤣
@BadBoyBeta
@BadBoyBeta 4 года назад
All jokes and memes aside, I think what pisses me off the most from game journalists is when they say in their review: "You don't get it." You, of course, being the player. The person who spends their hard earned money on a $60 game that they've been waiting months if not years for and it doesn't live up to their standards or it went in a completely different direction. When they say that, it makes me angry. I played the game, I watched the cutscenes. I know the context. And I'm not talking about Last of Us. I mean, in general. Don't tell me how to think. Don't tell me how to feel. And above all else, don't tell me that I "don't get it". I'm an adult, not a child.
@cristianzamora7108
@cristianzamora7108 4 года назад
Adult or not, they shouldn’t bash you for not liking the same game they like. I saw one comment say “If you played the whole section of Abby and still don’t emphasize with her, you’re doing something wrong”, like wtf.
@grandvianna8551
@grandvianna8551 4 года назад
Kinda sounds like you’re a child though🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️if you can’t empathize with Abby then yes...something is wrong with you...plain and simple
@countschnitzel8903
@countschnitzel8903 4 года назад
@@grandvianna8551 How old are you? Why/When precisely did you feel empathy for Abby? Do you base your entire perception and judgement of others solely on sympathy or empathy(or lack thereof)? Have you ever had access to literature with complex and flawed(complete/whole) characters - both protagonist and antagonist? Abby is extremely unlikable. She's a hypocrite, a psychopath, wears plot-armor, has contrived and unbelievable encounters and progression throughout the whole story. There is a very obvious, conceited effort to "make the player like her" at all costs, often with plodding, shallow, uninspired plot devices. Ellie's character is ruined, in that crusade, and most other interesting characters are summarily terminated and never heard from again. With the way the story is "structured" - she IS the main character in this game, while her "prototype" is irredeemable, in the first place. You are reinforcing the OP and first commenter's point with your take, btw.
@grandvianna8551
@grandvianna8551 4 года назад
Count Schnitzel Joel murders abbys father. So that makes her a psychopath for killing Joel and going after Ellie because she killed pregnant woman and Owen? Yeah I guess that makes her an unlikable empty character for having human reactions to her father and friends being murdered. And I guess it was really lazy and forced that she became Joel with lev by the end of the game. But you’re right, I guess I’m not as much of a literature champion as you. I hate Abby. She should have just stayed at the stadium and done absolutely nothing. In fact she never should have killed Joel. Her and her people should have gone to Jackson and just integrated with everyone so the game could basically be the LOU2 reskin of the sims
@grandvianna8551
@grandvianna8551 4 года назад
Count Schnitzel oh and I forgot to add that I must have been forced to feel empathy for Abby because I was maliciously manipulated into feeling that way by Neil
@jamessalvatore7054
@jamessalvatore7054 4 года назад
"If you dont like this game, you're a virgin" - IGN
@RokushoTheRavager
@RokushoTheRavager 4 года назад
Funny how they backtracked after the backlash they got. IGN seriously deserves to be canceled, fuck those clowns.
@the_alaskan_yeti2652
@the_alaskan_yeti2652 4 года назад
*Me, a virgin who doesn't like this game* :,o
@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565
@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565 4 года назад
That reminds me of a family guy joke. I can't remember it perfectly, but Peters just like, "lets not forget, whoever doesn't like (insert fucked up thing) is gay." Everyone else, "oh yes, I like that, I'm not gay."
@EAZYED420
@EAZYED420 4 года назад
Only a sith deals in absolutes
@bezoznaught5261
@bezoznaught5261 4 года назад
So... you're saying I'm pure again? I have my virginity back? That's pretty sweet
@spencermadison
@spencermadison 4 года назад
It pisses me off that some people say that Joel isn't a beloved character.
@ElementVoidX
@ElementVoidX 4 года назад
they try to say he is bad and not a hero, which no one is saying he is, he was just a guy who lost his daughter, and because of that stopped caring all together, only to start caring for Ellie like a daughter, killing the whole world if it meant to save her. I still see idiots calling him a mass murderer, like anyone in the apocalypse has not murdered people all the time, the argument is so fucking stupid.
@tylerulfmann4586
@tylerulfmann4586 4 года назад
ElementVoidX Factor that with said vaccine makers are a bunch of terrorist whose last experiment with the fungal death plague resulted in super death monkeys that wiped out like a dozen other said terrorist scientists and 30 security officers
@dabboloosefun
@dabboloosefun 4 года назад
ElementVoidX Even the fucking pregnant lady (I think Mel) has supposedly killed a fuckton of people, how is Joel any worse?
@AndYouWillBeWithMe
@AndYouWillBeWithMe 4 года назад
tat cosmonaut dude
@belugaman6772
@belugaman6772 4 года назад
I just came from the Cosmonaut Variety Hour video where he said that Joel wasn't and can't be a beloved character because he's an antihero as if that somehow makes sense
@brianyi2995
@brianyi2995 4 года назад
"If you look at the grass, it looks green like in real life" *10/10 - IGN*
@baki484
@baki484 4 года назад
That's why I stopped watching IGN reviews
@XVSting
@XVSting 4 года назад
Did they actually say that?? The lines between parody and reality is truly blurred when it comes to reviews about this game.
@thealientree3821
@thealientree3821 3 года назад
“If you look at the water, there’s too much.” *7.8/10*
@MrLauther
@MrLauther 4 года назад
Now this is why we should keep supporting independent content creators!
@sinuredmelowdie4424
@sinuredmelowdie4424 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k84bDit_wts.html
@sinuredmelowdie4424
@sinuredmelowdie4424 4 года назад
He is one of them btw. Use your brain, don’t be a sheep.
@meyes1098
@meyes1098 4 года назад
​@@sinuredmelowdie4424 The problem is with reviews as a whole, nobody should receive free copies NOR early review opportunities. It should be for the consumer base to rate the product. The moment you let people review a game ahead of release, or give release copies, *you incentivise them to give higher scores*
@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643
@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 4 года назад
Nope because independent creator can easily be swayed by subscribers and clout. Independent as you can see follow a bee hive mentality.. And the user review has told me that it can not be taken seriously and has never worked, from FIFA to cod, to pokemon..have been reviewed unfavorable but yet still sell.. What does that tell me, it means people don't trust user reviews, you can't tell what people should like.. Just look at the user review..it is childish and shallow, too much emotions and no objective reasoning How do you rate a 20-30 hour game the day it release and review it on a base of one factor of the whole game..the story. Sorry but I think should get a game that initially caught their attention, and review for themselves once they have finished. And that is why metacritic will have to change it policies and procedures to user reviews..you can't review a game until you have console or account rooted to metacritic and only if you have finished game or played most of it, will it give you the privilege to rate the game.
@TheSenorAwesome
@TheSenorAwesome 4 года назад
ACG, Jeremy jahns and shillup are my go to
@phantomix5693
@phantomix5693 4 года назад
Critics: "Am I out of touch? No, its the gamers who are wrong."
@JoeyFTL
@JoeyFTL 4 года назад
That's right, cause there are barely any journalists left who are gamers themselves
@30yovegan34
@30yovegan34 4 года назад
I mean, we're having people who get paid to review and receive the games for free tell you how to spend *your* money
@angrypolygon8410
@angrypolygon8410 4 года назад
Or maybe gamers are morons and can't appreciate a complex story. Everything had to be created to suit each person right? The company told a story that was far more complex than the first and showed Ellie and Joel as deeply flawed, broken people..... If you had someone killed befront of you like that you would certainly be in that mindset.
@therealjohndarksoul4151
@therealjohndarksoul4151 4 года назад
@@angrypolygon8410 bruh
@ethanlozada4470
@ethanlozada4470 4 года назад
Or maybe it’s because the most of the “gamers” haven’t even played the game
@ShawnMichaels232
@ShawnMichaels232 4 года назад
I never trust professional critics. I’m quicker to trust some of the RU-vidrs I follow and my fellow gamer friends, and then still form my own opinion on a game.
@galaxybrainkid1222
@galaxybrainkid1222 4 года назад
I would trust the ramblings of a toddler over the opinion of critics.
@bulgarianreaper6587
@bulgarianreaper6587 4 года назад
As one should do.
@kosmosfan01
@kosmosfan01 4 года назад
Same.
@SefniAsheforr
@SefniAsheforr 4 года назад
You just got to be careful of RU-vidrs who have connections and get free review copies prior to release. They're already incentivised to be more positive about it by way of the free game and special treatment.
@GYMJAX
@GYMJAX 4 года назад
Yeah critics love on their own imaginary bubble
@Lionhart1991
@Lionhart1991 4 года назад
ND has won the battle, good sales, but has lost the war, they lost so much fans, gg wp
@illuminati9394
@illuminati9394 4 года назад
They also lost the battle in 2nd week buddy with 80-85% drop in sales
@andrewfoss728
@andrewfoss728 4 года назад
Let's be real... Their "sales" are a huge portion of the game being sold to stores. Not necessarily being sold to the consumer. my dumbass purchased a digital copy that I can't return or resell 😠
@stathisc3376
@stathisc3376 4 года назад
If they gave a refund option they would bankrupt
@charmyzard
@charmyzard 4 года назад
*and 75% of their staff over this game alone.*
@welshdragon1736
@welshdragon1736 3 года назад
@@illuminati9394 Dude I Live in a shithole with Masiive inflation the only way to play game around here is to buy physical so you can resell it. NEVER Ever buy Digital (Unless it's Digital release only)
@thesurvivorssanctuary6561
@thesurvivorssanctuary6561 4 года назад
2:27 I love how this guy essentially says: "Despite what you may think, the reviews are not literally bought and paid for; but they are *basically* bought and paid for."
@Asriel_Cypher
@Asriel_Cypher 4 года назад
It's why mainstream media is losing relevance and RU-vid is gaining it. If you still listen to Metacritic or IGN, then I hope you realize this. Sooner the better.
@thisSh1tHard
@thisSh1tHard 4 года назад
Joel in The Last of Us 1: *"Life is about surviving, we must do anything and everything to protect ourselves."* Joel in The Last of Us 2: *"Hiya there friend, my names Joel, my bank pin is XXXX and my Facebook password is "I killed your family a while back!", now anyways, what are y'all doing with all those guns pointed at us?*
@thoryon7767
@thoryon7767 4 года назад
@Mark D they completely forgot the threat of getting infected too btw, people in this game are so godamm stupid when handling zombies its almost comical.
@G.T.E403
@G.T.E403 4 года назад
Joel: "Put you're seat belt on Ellie, he ain't even hurt."
@tylerulfmann4586
@tylerulfmann4586 4 года назад
G.T.E To add to your point Joel was a raider and has said that he has been on both sides of an ambush OG Joel would have immediately shot Abby or at the very least avoid staying in the house
@nolydontcare2655
@nolydontcare2655 4 года назад
Also he never said that u idiot
@maulcs
@maulcs 4 года назад
No way Joel would have entered that house and allowed himself to be surrounded by strangers.
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 4 года назад
I wasn't aware people still looked at these kinds of reviews. Why would you do that when there are so many people on RU-vid doing deep reviews in so many styles?
@retroroyalplays9457
@retroroyalplays9457 4 года назад
To the average person, whoever comes out with their review first is the one who usually who gets the most eyes on them. If you're not into YT culture and are more acquainted with legacy media (access media), you would be far more inclined to follow those. I try to share content from RU-vidrs with friends far more than from legacy sources for that reason.
@theotherjared9824
@theotherjared9824 4 года назад
That's the thing, people don't. They just look at the metacritic score and skim through the top reviews if they feel like it. The only way to get eyes on them is to make a complete ass of themselves on the internet to lure people in and shove ads in their faces.
@JohnSmith-ef6sv
@JohnSmith-ef6sv 4 года назад
Independent media IS gaining heavy ground on traditional media but for some reason these companies continue to put themselves on a pedestal and pat each other on the back while shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe they can get some traffic from hate clicks for the time being but if they continue this path of attacking gamers(their consumers no less) and giving disingenuous reviews then it's only going to kill them in the long run.
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments 4 года назад
Most people aren't like us. They don't even know channels like this exist. So they don't question professional looking critic websites.
@retroroyalplays9457
@retroroyalplays9457 4 года назад
@@JohnSmith-ef6sv that seems to be the only way they feel will keep them in the game against independent media. They're trying to plug the hole in their sinking ship by firing bullets at it 😂😂
@jpa3974
@jpa3974 4 года назад
Two things that are fun to note: how expert critics were deceived by this stupid plot and how fanboys are working hard to rationalize in an attempt to convince themselves that their $ 60 has been well spent. One thing that this video did not comment on is that the plot is simply dumb. It is not only divisive, poorly made, controversial, it is also extremely dumb and any serious literary critic would probably consider that script to be the work of some amateur writer without talent who is unaware of his own limitations.
@b0zz1380y
@b0zz1380y 4 года назад
You forgot to mention it's dumb
@aricisbest
@aricisbest 4 года назад
This comment is gold. I see my cousin and all the journalists loving this game and calling it a masterpiece that somehow I feel I am the dumb one here. How can so many people not see the flaws in the writing?
@shashwatnath9040
@shashwatnath9040 4 года назад
@@aricisbest there are legit flaws in the game and pacing no doubt but its not total garbage as ppl portray it to be
@serpentax
@serpentax 4 года назад
first game was a comedy. second game was a tragedy. tragedies come with heavy-handed moral lessons. sorry you didn't like it. i'd agree that it's controversial and divisive. i think that was known to happen and disregarded. let studios take a chance in creativity. i enjoyed it.
@jpa3974
@jpa3974 4 года назад
@@serpentax This does not excuse bad writing. For example, note that most people did not understand the end of the game, they simply think it is nonsense, a sudden change of opinion by Ellie without a strong reason just for the end of "breaking expectations". But that was not the intention of the writers, they tried in a pathetic way to create a story of redemption for Abby, which is poorly shown at the end through small details that did not have the proper emphasis in the middle of a bad and confusing scene. This is bad writing: the writer did not have the time, willingness or talent to get the message across properly. The message is lost, does not generate the correct effect and even intelligent people fail to understand what the author was trying to show. How can this be considered good?
@rangamsarmah2061
@rangamsarmah2061 4 года назад
These game critics have become so full of themselves, they feel like only they can understand the "deep" meanings of games, and have forgot the entire purpose of games, having and engaging story and the player having fun.
@necrophilicuntorsomethingi2541
@necrophilicuntorsomethingi2541 4 года назад
"I thought this was a game about golf" - Random critic
@cookiemonster6468
@cookiemonster6468 4 года назад
golf sticks go *crrr* *crrr*
@tylerulfmann4586
@tylerulfmann4586 4 года назад
It’s ma’am!! *whack
@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565
@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565 4 года назад
I know y'all think that's funny, but I still can't laugh at that.
@asadbashir3199
@asadbashir3199 4 года назад
Too soon......
@spuart3308
@spuart3308 4 года назад
Joel in one
@InfinityBladeStudios
@InfinityBladeStudios 4 года назад
“The truth will set you free” *said nobody at IGN ever.*
@CrossBorderNerds
@CrossBorderNerds 4 года назад
Can't spell ignorance without IGN.
@6581punk
@6581punk 4 года назад
"This is radio free oregon, don't listen to the lies".
@KA-qv7be
@KA-qv7be 4 года назад
John 8:32 You are a wise man.
@redseagaming7832
@redseagaming7832 4 года назад
@@CrossBorderNerds I was about to type that then I saw your comment awesome
@Vyktym76
@Vyktym76 4 года назад
"The truth will set you free, as long as you buy that truth from me" 99.9% of all reviewers.
@flare5168
@flare5168 4 года назад
The problem with the ending is that the plot of the story does not fit the world they are in. Ellie has learned that its not the best idea to seek revenge, but what if her girlfriend for example gets killed? will she do nothing about it now that she thinks seeking revenge is a bad thing, or will she go after the murderer? The story just does not fit the settings they are in.
@makaramuss
@makaramuss 4 года назад
now imagine lesson was "do not seek revenge, seek justice"
@chrisposeed
@chrisposeed 4 года назад
yeah, also ellie killed like 500 humans, and at the end she decides to spare abby
@francesccampos1343
@francesccampos1343 4 года назад
@@makaramuss Justice is subjective, specially in a post-apocalyptic world. Who states what is justice and what's not? what gives you the right to decide what is justice and what's not?... Revenge is a bad thing but murdering all the other people isn't? That's BS, same bs that journalists deserve for their "reviews", simply pathetic how badly the mainstream media and politics are impacting western videogames step by step.
@aungyethu6560
@aungyethu6560 4 года назад
Are you saying the story doesn't fit the setting because they're making "emotional" choices rather than "rational" choices given the dire circumstances they're in? That's reality, it's human nature to be "irrational". It's not a plot hole; If anything, it makes the story more authentic and believable.
@wangledteb5671
@wangledteb5671 4 года назад
Yeah I got the sense that by the time she made it to Abby she was just fucking exhausted and decided it wasn't worth it anymore. It doesn't make rational sense but it made sense emotionally in keeping with the character... And besides- we already saw from Abby's storyline that killing Joel didn't help with her guilt or remorse around her father. What helped was taking care of Lev. The saddest part of the game for me is that Ellie had the chance to do that, and to spend her life in relative peace with Dina raising a kid, and she wasn't able to do it, and by the time she got back she had missed her chance, and now she has nothing.
@SavageRicktator
@SavageRicktator 4 года назад
Journalists lost any shred of credibility giving this game 10/10. Spinning the false narratives we knew it was disingenuous and skeptical
@Timothy27778
@Timothy27778 4 года назад
The game is awesome and all the people who hate it are stupid. I don't enjoy insulting anyone, it's just the only way to tell the truth. Anyway, the game's sales are record breaking so all the haters have lost. The journalists got it right with this one. It's the haters who've got it all wrong.
@SavageRicktator
@SavageRicktator 4 года назад
@Timothy27778 Yeah in your subjective opinion for me personally it was trash. Naughty Dog achieved the endeavour of making the fanbase miserable. Neil Druckmann crafted a story, that was brutal and nihilistic while alienating the fans with contrived writing. Destroying established characters like Joel and Ellie and deconstructed the original game. Just because it sold well doesn't change the fact the execution in the story was awful The game uses cheap manipulation instead of thoughtful characterization. Sequels necessarily build on storylines and characters that, critically, already exist. Rules of consistency apply to sequels, because any good sequel must necessarily tell an important story with consideration and respect of what came before. TLOU 2 completely disregards this, if this narrative were a standalone story with whole new characters excluding Joel and Ellie, maybe it could have worked
@keganmemestar4465
@keganmemestar4465 4 года назад
@@Timothy27778 If you enjoy a bad game, don't let the negative feedback get to you. Don't worry, you're allowed to like bad games.
@kyloren5096
@kyloren5096 4 года назад
What are you talking about? I played it, got the platinum and consider it a 10. They didn't lose a shred of credibility to me. You're acting as if criticism is somehow objective, that these reviewers are lying or are stupid. It's their opinion, one that many share. Just because you disagree doesn't make them any less 'credible.'
@kyloren5096
@kyloren5096 4 года назад
The characters were hardly destroyed. Last of Us on the whole was never just about Ellie and Joel. I thought they deeply explored Ellie's character, and how she changes overtime, both in the years between the games and over the course of the game's events.
@TheAlienGangster
@TheAlienGangster 4 года назад
Remember how Ellie was supposed to represent hope for Joel during the apocalypse? Then why did they think it was a good idea to completely deconstruct her character to the point where there’s nothing left? By the end, the game’s message just felt sadistic and nihilistic.
@ghidorah15
@ghidorah15 4 года назад
Because they hate hope.
@TheSkyyIsAwesome
@TheSkyyIsAwesome 4 года назад
She made a “left” turn lol
@sandyshores3891
@sandyshores3891 4 года назад
Because they don't use the word "Fun"
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 4 года назад
Because tormenting a girl who never got to develop with any sense of normality seems like more fun.
@henzwang
@henzwang 4 года назад
I think you picked up on some of the changes to Ellie but my interpretation is a little different. You see her becoming more and more like Joel in a self prophetic way, becoming a determined killing machine and even trying to adopt the interrogation techniques he used. But in the end she finds she can't do it. She goes back to pursue Abby because seeing Joel's head caved in gave her mad PTSD and she needs closure. In the end, she finds that she can't do it and lets them go because she realizes that Abby is just like them, Abby being like Joel and Lev like Ellie. None of them is better than the other, and they deserve to live. The ending scene with Ellie's loss of fingers is a sign of her loss of innocence, her loss of Joel, of Dina. Yeah, it's fucking sad, yeah, at times brutal - as it should be in a brutal post apocalyptic world. But I would not say that it's sadistic or Nihilistic. I think players are also failing to empathize with Abby, and I think her story brought a lot of brightness to the game. Even though she killed Joel she proves herself to be a worthy character through her journey - I would even justify her reasons for doing what she did. If it were your father who Joel had killed, would you have felt differently?
@XxBUMGODxX
@XxBUMGODxX 4 года назад
Don’t forget they can also pull ads if they don’t bend the knee.
@annabella1650
@annabella1650 4 года назад
Pull ads, pull review copies, seriously the gaming industry has had and always will have far too much power over the actual reviewer.
@darthXreven
@darthXreven 4 года назад
boo hoo for them.....gaming sites have long since become outdated....
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 4 года назад
@@darthXreven They shouldn't be though. Ever since the media companies let their greed and desire to get one over on their competitors control their decisions they have become entirely dependent on the very people they are supposed to "critique" to stay alive, if they had instead presented a united front to the game publishers back when review copies were first starting to be used as both carrot and stick, they could easily have forced them to supply them to every journalist, but instead they just laughed at the people who were excluded. The media arm of the gaming industry isn't dying of old age, it's being choked in its crib.
@yderga8707
@yderga8707 4 года назад
@@annabella1650 they'd like to think so, but at the end of the day corporations want money, and if they dont see those numbers do well theyll start rolling heads. I mean look at star wars and DC now...
@DirtlovR
@DirtlovR 4 года назад
10/10 is a PERFECT score. For me that means the game should exceed expectations on every front. Perfect performance, perfect graphics, perfects story. It should also be a new milestone in at least one category - new, groundbreaking gameplay, new way of story-telling, something to make it unique. In short, a flawless game, unicorn. Does TLOU2 have those qualities? No, gameplay is mostly unchanged, it looks good, the story is weird.
@williamstark9568
@williamstark9568 4 года назад
Yeah. I don't know of many PERFECT games. I know of many amazing games that I'd give a 9.5, 9.8 but perfect games are rare and beautiful indeed. But i am also willing to say "for what it is, it is perfect". Which has slightly lower standards but is still pretty high.
@vla1ne
@vla1ne 4 года назад
one of my absolute favorite games was TLoU1. that game was leagues above its' "sequel" and had a better composed story, with more beloved characters to boot. even then, the game only had a 9 in my book. No game with a 10 is trustworthy imo. a 9, maybe, but I have yet to see a game worthy of a 10 or a 100 (depending on the grading scale).
@Manie230
@Manie230 4 года назад
I personally think the gameplay is just outdated. The gameplay in the first game was also not good it was okay and they changed little to nothing that’s why I personally didn’t bother buying it. I think there is no perfect game but there are really good games. I spent over 100 hours in spore ( on steam probably many more cause i had the game before steam and re bought it for steam)a game many would call a bad game but it was my child hood and designing creatures and playing as them was so much fun. Minecraft another game I would consider a masterpiece. It changed my gaming experience for ever. And the mod support for the game made me never lose the interest. You see gaming is such a subjective thing tagt there is almost no point in even reading reviews because one may hate the game while you love it. It’s the same as food there maybe an Indian restaurant that someone gave a bad review you go there and it tastes delicious. You can only rate stuff that has nothing to do with subjectivity. Like performance, story telling ,looks gameplay feeling and other technical details but the core game concept is something you can only subjectively judge.
@kyloren5096
@kyloren5096 4 года назад
10/10 never means perfect.
@kyloren5096
@kyloren5096 4 года назад
And no, a 10 shouldn't be a milestone.
@leatheryfoot6354
@leatheryfoot6354 4 года назад
"The game is good because we tell you its good." -IGN 10/10
@guccigucci5002
@guccigucci5002 4 года назад
metacritic isnt letting new people write negative reviews. it sends you to a 503 screen been doing that for days to boost the score
@larslundandersen7722
@larslundandersen7722 4 года назад
Yup, indeed it does. I wanted to rate it either a 4 or 5. Couldn't do it though
@AlexisBii
@AlexisBii 4 года назад
I just find it so hard to believe there’s NO money being exchanged here
@guccigucci5002
@guccigucci5002 4 года назад
@@AlexisBii there def is. they deleted over 15k negative death stranding reviewers but left up the botted positive ones
@samjr1151
@samjr1151 4 года назад
Apparently if you post a positive review and then change it to a negative one that fixes the problem. Well that's what I've heard people are starting to do.
@itzybitzyspyder
@itzybitzyspyder 4 года назад
Metacritic, like most game critic machines, is compromised. Take game recommendations from people who actually game.
@everardosalvador-martinez49
@everardosalvador-martinez49 4 года назад
IGN gave Spongebob a 2 for being "too punishing" they aren't intellectual higher
@adamgray1753
@adamgray1753 4 года назад
The Barney the Dinosaur games might be up their alley then.
@edouard9687
@edouard9687 4 года назад
That's it boys time to go burn the ign building
@zeldazackman
@zeldazackman 4 года назад
@@edouard9687 "How do you do fellow gamers, shall we go talk about various glowinthedark things while sitting next to this obviously not recording microphone and say oh buddy oh pal ol' friend, would you mind illegally sawing off a length of a shotgun's barrel for me?"
@battlekingad8291
@battlekingad8291 4 года назад
IGN gave it a 5. Gamespot gave it a 2
@karenpojar2514
@karenpojar2514 4 года назад
Spongebob's score is apparently "revenge" by Resetera against THQ for hosting an AMA on 8chan a year ago. So yeah, petty high school politics.
@mightylink65
@mightylink65 4 года назад
Imagine the hell that's gonna be raised when this game wins GOTY over Cyberpunk and FF7 Remake...
@zatchbell5678
@zatchbell5678 4 года назад
Gamers rise up
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 4 года назад
It's going to be hilarious. Especially since GOTY, just like the Hollywood dick measuring contests, means absolutely jack shit. It's just another set of echo chambers where the people with the right opinion sit around and look for an excuse to eat anyone who strays into wrongthink. There is going to be a wet fart of outrage on Twitter by the gamers, the loudmouth NPCs who probably never spent a dime on the game are going to shit all over it, and then they are going to masturbate while thinking of all the haters that they upset. The same way it always goes.
@dogeboithedoomslayer
@dogeboithedoomslayer 4 года назад
And also Doom Eternal
@LegendofHalo
@LegendofHalo 4 года назад
@@Reddotzebra Well, it won't win GOTY from Game's Award which is dictated by popular votes. That's for sure.
@miety111
@miety111 4 года назад
I'm gonna cry blood if this happens
@konstantingeorgiev7521
@konstantingeorgiev7521 3 года назад
"See, there was a sequal. Wasnt as good" - Dead guy
@dragonquest8ftw1
@dragonquest8ftw1 4 года назад
Honestly, I don't think it was so much them being bought out, but rather they had to tread on eggshells making the review. Look at the backlash the likes of SkillUp and other streamers are getting for not liking the game, they're being labelled as haters of LGBT despite they have plenty valid reasons for saying the game isn't upto their standard. If any reviewer like IGN were to say that, the entire company would be in flames for disrepecting the LGBT community.
@FingerlessTyr
@FingerlessTyr 4 года назад
That I have to agree. But you can see it also on those who enjoyed it. The “bad” reviews I saw have legitimate complains, and good reviews have interesting point on how to look at the game, but the comenta in either are just trash, either they make fun of characters sexuality or how they look, or they blame everyone for being homophobic. It’s a war no one can win.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 4 года назад
i think the proper term is alphabet people
@tylerulfmann4586
@tylerulfmann4586 4 года назад
dragonquest8ftw1 Don’t forget the sexism claims about people not liking Abby Adam Apple
@JCDentonCZ
@JCDentonCZ 4 года назад
That and tge risk of getting MeToo'd or otherwise losing access, benefits and favor for going against the narrative.
@AlexisBii
@AlexisBii 4 года назад
The hilarious thing is that the LGBT community hates this game and its tokenism
@johnnyzhou165
@johnnyzhou165 4 года назад
Games media feels like a good old boys club. Everybody knows each other. They are blinded by their own bias.
@DicklessHipster
@DicklessHipster 4 года назад
It's funny because I bet they all believe they're fighting the patriarchy.
@silentgroyper5069
@silentgroyper5069 4 года назад
@@Kiba114 "basically forced"? I doubt that. Maybe an exception or two but even then what does that say about them as critics? There position or job is a joke.
@ianmerkin6488
@ianmerkin6488 4 года назад
And kissing each others assholes,,an saying how good they do their job...
@johnnyzhou165
@johnnyzhou165 4 года назад
Honestly it’s the same reviewers and the same opinions for the last decade. I mean nothing against The likes such as ign, kind of funny, gamespot. In the end it’s just the same people shuffling around with the same context. Thank god we have you tubers.
@DicklessHipster
@DicklessHipster 4 года назад
@@johnnyzhou165 Yeah. I only listen to youtuber reviews of I'm interested in an actual legitimate review of something. Everything else just seems like a paid advertisement, completely off base, or politically motivated.
@Reck_93
@Reck_93 4 года назад
I love how forbes instantly associated all reviews that were mixed and had legitimate critiques of the game as being part of the review bombing on metacritic. Saying how a large number of negative reviews were posted and a majority of them haven't finished the game. I'm not arguing that there is bombing by people but when you group actual reviews and opinions from people who genuinely didn't like the game and brought up real points of interest you're essentially labelling their opinions as inferior to yours regardless, or as a hater or troll. Also there was very little said by forbes about the 30k+ positive reviews that came flooding in to mitigate the negative reviews. Where is the justification from that side of the story? There was an actual 10/10 user score that simply said "I'm 1 and a half hours in, fuck off haters this game is perfect" So they haven't finished, they haven't even got to any major plot or gameplay section in the game, but gave it a perfect review. There are hundreds similarly like this. I already knew "professional" critic opinions were skeward for certain games but those who called this game a masterpiece and then denounced any mixed or critical opinion from users as misogynist, homophobic, anti lgbt+ because the game was bombed is pathetic and just as much of a problem. I loved life is strange, its probably one of the best stories I've ever experienced in all forms of entertainment. It was dark but had happy, lighthearted moments, amazing characters, setting and story. It made me feel empathy and care for its characters like I actually knew them. It was also seen as a landmark in video games for its portrayal of lgbt themes. But because I didn't like the portrayal of characters and similar themes and thought they were poorly executed in the last of us 2 I'll be grouped as a close minded misogynist, homophobe and anti lgbt person by somewhere like forbes....
@SoftyWalterGames
@SoftyWalterGames 4 года назад
I'm a psychology student so when you started talking about Asch's study I got a huge smile on my face. Keep it up
@ghaffarkhan5662
@ghaffarkhan5662 3 года назад
psychology student here too, bro. when he mentioned Asch I suddenly sat up, lol. Which university do you study at? if you don't mind me asking.
@AlexisBii
@AlexisBii 4 года назад
The fact that we’re supposed to believe critics actually play these 30 hour games and review them with context in the first place shows how stupid they think we are
@852internationalconnect
@852internationalconnect 4 года назад
Critic : step 1: receive free copy of game Step 2: play 2 hours of the game Step 3: write a review based on the predetermined positive points Step 4: you have ascended beyond the peasant gamer and reached infinite wisdom while gaining undoubtable knowledge of what a good game is
@lockekappa500
@lockekappa500 4 года назад
As much as I disagree with all of the 10's coming out, the same can be said for these negative viewer reviews that were coming out within a day of the game coming out. Most just the knee jerk reaction to the released script.
@jcbass8847
@jcbass8847 4 года назад
I completely agree but that also stands for anyone passing judgment on the game without playing it for any length of time. The people hating on the game are equally as dumb as the ones praising it without playing
@ethanlozada4470
@ethanlozada4470 4 года назад
Are we suppose to believe the review bombers who haven’t even touched the game
@DukeoftheAges
@DukeoftheAges 4 года назад
Well to be fair starting in 2009/2010 gamers as a whole did become rather stupid
@thisSh1tHard
@thisSh1tHard 4 года назад
*with a little something for everyone*
@cezarysiemieniewski5502
@cezarysiemieniewski5502 4 года назад
Iron nine
@illyrian44
@illyrian44 4 года назад
was that a reference to Joel's brain being clubbed into little pieces?
@doodledrew7039
@doodledrew7039 4 года назад
Knack 2 baby
@IdiotPerspective
@IdiotPerspective 4 года назад
A lot of something to hate about you mean. Goddamn, even the LGBTQ whatever are pissed of this game. Neil the Soy Boy cannot catch a break.
@ThorwaldJack
@ThorwaldJack 4 года назад
@@cezarysiemieniewski5502 A man chooses. SJW obeys. Abby: ''Imma Andrew Ryan this bitch''
@Matt-wf7ry
@Matt-wf7ry 4 года назад
Metacritic has zero credibility after they went in and deleted thousands of negative reviews and stopped allowing new negative reviews to be posted for some time. The user review score should be still down in the low 3's but they couldn't let that happen and are doing their best to get it boosted up to at least 5.
@michaelhadley7855
@michaelhadley7855 4 года назад
was that based on spoilers? genuinly asking. For me it was one of the best games i've ever played. i'd give it a 10 or 9.5. i've never played such an emotional rollercoaster of a game..
@ashkhri
@ashkhri 4 года назад
@@michaelhadley7855 10??? bruh id give it a 6, maybe 6.5 max
@lordderp6914
@lordderp6914 2 года назад
@@michaelhadley7855 respect to you and your opinion because you didn't go screw you you're to stupid to get it when someone had a different opinion personally I'd say 7 but I didn't play the first when it came out I played it in 2018 and I fell that had the most to do with it I'd probably be realy pissed if I waited 7 years to to see one of my favorite characters die an hour in but to be fair I do think the ideas for the game were good but poorly executed
@StormKnight1
@StormKnight1 4 года назад
Get this, they rated TLOU 2 higher than Witcher 3. IGNs review is officially forever irrelevant for me until the end of time. The only way I'll change my mind is to hear an open apology and re review with lesser score.
@Manie230
@Manie230 4 года назад
Yeah even I who hated the withers fighting system can say that this game does not have the right to get higher scores that the Witcher.
@kyloren5096
@kyloren5096 4 года назад
Imagine unironically comparing two games that couldn't be more different. You realize different people review games right? A review is still the writer's opinion.
@kyloren5096
@kyloren5096 4 года назад
And both games are great. It's pointless to argue over which game was rated higher. Because ultimately, it doesn't matter.
@StormKnight1
@StormKnight1 4 года назад
@@kyloren5096 yeah ultimately IGN reviews are completely meaningless it doesn't matter and it's wholly irrelevant, good point.
@BoroMirraCz
@BoroMirraCz 4 года назад
Well, given that Witcher 3 is also overrated, that's not that difficult in the current "meta" of reviews. But I agree with the sentiment. Witcher 3 is 7/10 at best and LOU2 is 6/10 at best...
@ravenplaze8972
@ravenplaze8972 4 года назад
I'm glad you brought up the difference between "bought reviews with actual cash" and access journalism. A lot of people in the industry (or even those tangential to it) are trying to claim that these scores aren't "bought" because no actual cash transactions have taken place. This mentality is at best, woefully ignorant and at worst, deceptive and disingenuous.
@CyberChrist
@CyberChrist 4 года назад
#ZoeQuinnBodyCount
@jeffvella9765
@jeffvella9765 4 года назад
It does not take a genius to know that no game deserves a 100, there is always room for improvement. All those who gave a 100 know next to nothing about reviewing. Not even how to appear legit. Totally brainless people.
@dathunderman4
@dathunderman4 3 года назад
Then shouldn’t other games with “access journalism” receive similar review scores from critics? If the argument is that access journalism is causing critics to give heavily inflated reviews, then we should be able to apply that reasoning more broadly. Your argument also deals with the issue between intentional vs. unintentional consequences. Game developers have to give access to journalists for review of their games, it’s quite literally how the industry works. And if a critic just so happens to use that action as incentive to give a heavily inflated review, is that really equivalent to the devs “buying” someone’s review? If this is unethical as you say, then video game devs should stop giving review access altogether, because by your reasoning we should hold them ethically responsible for any unintended sentiments from reviewers that such actions could trigger.
@Kain01able
@Kain01able 4 года назад
I have nothing against people liking the game, it's their opinion and tastes. I have everything against people trivializing the actual issues with a game just because you disagree or thing their 'haters'.
@PK-ow1kj
@PK-ow1kj 4 года назад
This comment is GOLD !
@jackbishop8610
@jackbishop8610 4 года назад
*cough* Cosmonaut Variety Hour
@XProjectHunterX
@XProjectHunterX 4 года назад
I thought they called people who disagree with them sexists or bigots lol. Its embarrassing watching "professional" grown adults throw insults at anyone who disagrees with them like school yard children.
@hottea9546
@hottea9546 4 года назад
Well because most people hating on it solemnly do because of the diversity and inclusion which in itself is a stupid reason to hate on something. Nothing was forced in the game just a matter of fact. But yet people hate to see inclusion like imagine people upset because of the diversity in character which are suppose to resemble real people.
@stupidpol
@stupidpol 4 года назад
@@hottea9546 that's what really surprised me in the game. i thought the game will be 'woke'. but in fact, all 'wokeness' was simply about characters taking each other's identity for granted and the story's focus was on completely different subjects. i wish more games to be like that.
@mastergecko1178
@mastergecko1178 4 года назад
“The last of us part 2 has a little golfing for everyone” 10/10 IGN
@Minotaur-ey2lg
@Minotaur-ey2lg 4 года назад
While I don’t believe that these reviews are paid for through bribery, I do believe that some of them are extorted. “Review this game well or you don’t get early access to future games.” Or “Review this game well or you don’t have a job.” Is a form of bribery, it’s bribery in the fact that their offering you continued employment.
@b0zz1380y
@b0zz1380y 4 года назад
That's not bribery. That's blackmail which is worse
@Dr_Smash
@Dr_Smash 4 года назад
If a story-driven game has a bad story, it is a bad game. Good Graphics are basically a given from AAA titles, and the gameplay is just a device to get from cutscene to cutscene in these types of games. Not to say those should be discredited, but if the story takes precedent, than the story is how it should be judged.
@harlenkelly7331
@harlenkelly7331 4 года назад
Good graphics are not a given
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 4 года назад
@@harlenkelly7331 For AAA games they are
@harlenkelly7331
@harlenkelly7331 4 года назад
@@montypython5521 Good graphics to the level of naughty dog or rockstar is not a given and the vast majority of AAA games are not at that level.
@MoonTaLoo
@MoonTaLoo 4 года назад
@@harlenkelly7331 you added the good graphics to the level of naughty dog or rockstar. Everyone else just said good graphics.
@annabella1650
@annabella1650 4 года назад
@Harlen Kelly Maybe, but they aren’t nearly the game changer some people like to claim them to be, and personally I’ll take a good art style over realistic graphs. Games like Darkest Dungeon, Okama, Dead Cells and Shovel Knight look excellent, and a lot of the “better graphic” games end up looking boring or sterile.
@jorgemigueltavares6041
@jorgemigueltavares6041 4 года назад
What a travesty of a game. *Gaming in 2020:* “muh graphics”, “muh diversity”, “muh wokeness”, and of course, inane, dumb plot. *10/10 “Would play golf again”*
@spuart3308
@spuart3308 4 года назад
B-B-But Jorge.... what about muh themes
@summersky77
@summersky77 4 года назад
Hey Jorge, I agree in terms of shallow character development, shit story riddled with plot holes and game pacing that left much to be desired, however, the visuals and some of the combat were very well done in my opinion. So, not a complete travesty of a game. But , yes, there were parts that felt like a bit of a grind. However, unlike Death Stranding, I was at least able to finish TLOU 2!
@Grandmaster-Kush
@Grandmaster-Kush 4 года назад
Games never looked better, and were so generic and similar in mechanics and controls and gameplay, AAA is dead for good.
@channeldoesnotexist
@channeldoesnotexist 4 года назад
@@summersky77 Dude, the gameplay is a TLoU + Uncharted 4 clone. There is nothing new or original in this game. TBF I expected more than Uncharted's tall grass and rope physics with the original game's crafting and combat virtually unchanged save for a dodge mechanic.
@jorgemigueltavares6041
@jorgemigueltavares6041 4 года назад
@@summersky77 I am Portuguese, yes. But the visuals and gameplay cannot fix the story of the game, specially in a game as story-driven as this. We're not playing TLOU2 just to gawk at the vistas, ultimately, we bought the game to see what adventures the characters we grew to like in the previous title face in the sequel. Remember Anthem? Whole different game, yes, but the gameplay mechanics were also something that was praised, visuals too if I recall correctly. Everything else, though? No. This game would have been even further critically acclaimed, if only they didn't go with a revenge plot as convoluted as this one, or force us to play as Joel's murderer.
@timefororbit
@timefororbit 4 года назад
"The system is broken." It's that way on purpose and it's not going to fix itself.
@Luna-Starfrost
@Luna-Starfrost 4 года назад
I just pull the Disneymove now: The last of Us part II is not canon.
@ReadyAimFire_
@ReadyAimFire_ 4 года назад
I already forgot about this title. They can do whatever they want, and call me whatever they want, i dont care, i will vote with my wallet. I buy games from people who try to make good game, with interesting gameplay and cool story, not from social and political activist who put agenda in their games and dont care about gameplay or story at all.
@itzybitzyspyder
@itzybitzyspyder 4 года назад
Naughty Dog bites the hand that feeds it...fetch me the Post...
@chrisdivodi9291
@chrisdivodi9291 4 года назад
@Miskatonic Scholar Accurate satire.
@MB20978
@MB20978 4 года назад
At the core, everything in mainstream critiquing over the past five years has become about praising certain political agendas and demonising others. “Quality” just means how many or how few of those agenda boxes got ticked. It’s really unfortunate for a lot of art forms.
@TheTraveller09
@TheTraveller09 4 года назад
Well said
@Cherb123456
@Cherb123456 4 года назад
Sad state of western "mainstream" Media
@Olmekc
@Olmekc 4 года назад
Plus they want to win the awards at the public awards shows/ceremonies that are pushing the same agendas and ideologies.
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 4 года назад
Or maybe people just genuinely like the game and you’re triggered that the game dosent fit your agenda and your own personal politics ? 🌝
@Hahaa99
@Hahaa99 4 года назад
The fact that this game has nearly the same reviews as Red Dead Redemption 2 is ridiculous
@LawrenceCaldwellAuthor
@LawrenceCaldwellAuthor 4 года назад
We're heading into an era of inane, asinine, drab, unrealistic, break-immersion, ludicrously-told stories.
@emptyday77
@emptyday77 4 года назад
Finally, someone calls them out for what is truly going on. I recently unsubbed from one of the few game reviewers I actually trusted because of this. Won't mention them, but when they got called out by their fans, a big part of their defense was "well other reviewers gave it a 10/10, look!" Reading that told me everything I needed to know.
@roberteli5235
@roberteli5235 4 года назад
Now I want to know who lol just to see if I follow them
@artemkoropotkin3047
@artemkoropotkin3047 4 года назад
@@roberteli5235 IGN
@PaulJohnson-zv3hl
@PaulJohnson-zv3hl 4 года назад
That’s a shame. You got to remember a game like this is going to either make you want to give it a 10/10 or be dissatisfied and disappointed at the end of playing it. Both views a completely fine, it’s the ones that haven’t played it that can’t talk.
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 4 года назад
Paul Johnson I actually disagree. I am fine with those who give it 8-9s. Because it has CLEAR and OBVIOUS flaws. Can’t be perfect with blatant flaws. Can still be great. I don’t like it at all, but that’s my opinion. If your opinion of a clearly flawed game is that it is perfect, your opinion is immediately invalid.
@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123
@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123 4 года назад
dunkey
@ashryver3605
@ashryver3605 4 года назад
Here I was thinking - after decades - we were at the unanimous point where "critic review" of games are as irrelevant as "critic review" of cinema.
@Copeharder00
@Copeharder00 4 года назад
MSM watching the house being cleared in MW: "I can't watch this, I can't believe this is a thing, it needs to be changed" MSM watching Joel get his head caved in: "Such a brutal bittersweet turn of events to coax Ellie into this masterpiece of a narrative".
@Freakinger81
@Freakinger81 4 года назад
Back in the 90s i bought a monthly Video Game Magazine to get the latest reviews. The Journos did a good Job back then. You knew, they were Gamers themself. But today? Meh. Absolutely worthless opinions.
@adamgray1753
@adamgray1753 4 года назад
Yep! That is why I subscribed to those magazines back then, Retromann. They had so much life to them. You understood why they had ads galore back then. Some of the ads were good enough to enjoy too. I do not know why the "trusted" reviewers became the video gaming reviewing abominations they have become today, but as someone who grew up in the 1990's this very greatly displeases me.
@drm2318
@drm2318 4 года назад
no, they were worthless back then too. A combo of your lack of perspective at the time and nostalgia glasses now are making you think they were legit, but no..... there has in fact never been a time that games "journalism" has been honest in reviews.
@Riverlia
@Riverlia 4 года назад
The fact that people can give so many 100 or 0 with a straight face so often is problematic. Perfection and absolutely not worthy of existing by any metric should not be that common.
@AviShow128Chatmaker
@AviShow128Chatmaker 4 года назад
They did my man Joel so dirty. I don’t know how unsatisfied I felt after finishing the game.
@CipherFiveZero
@CipherFiveZero 4 года назад
Critics will always to be full of themselves, they gave mixed reviews for Spongebob Battle For Bikini Bottom Rehydrated (2/10 from Gamespot and 5/10 from IGN) yet they give TLOU2 near-perfect to perfect scores (8/10 from Gamespot and 10/10 from IGN).
@QueryBuns
@QueryBuns 4 года назад
Spongebob Rehydrated is Overwhelmingly Positive on steam as well.
@shaneyy__
@shaneyy__ 4 года назад
I would sooner accept an 8/10 for this honestly. The mechanics work the way they’re supposed to. It’s decently challenging. As a standalone, sure, 8/10. But character assassination cannot be granted above a 5.
@852internationalconnect
@852internationalconnect 4 года назад
I played it on realease day spongebob absolutely rocks what it tries to do and at 20 bucks you can not go wrong
@CipherFiveZero
@CipherFiveZero 4 года назад
@@QueryBuns That's good to hear, I got it 25% off on Green Man Gaming before release but haven't gotten around to play it yet.
@CipherFiveZero
@CipherFiveZero 4 года назад
@@852internationalconnect I gotta get around to play it myself, got it 25% off before release from Green Man Gaming.
@MasiMojoda
@MasiMojoda 4 года назад
Zero out of "x" reviews are merely a response to the undeserved perfect scores, whether the game deserves them or not. It's to counteract the "professional critics" bogus, inept and corrupt scores.
@DeadlyDanDaMan
@DeadlyDanDaMan 4 года назад
Totally agree. When you average the two, it's 5/10. That's exactly what this game should be rated.
@crocmister1232
@crocmister1232 4 года назад
That is incredibly stupid. Anyone who does that perceives their subjective dislike of something as more credible than someone else’s like for it. They think it “deserves” a lower rating, so they forcibly bring it down. That is literal hypocrisy. Users actually giving an honest review would better indicate the average person’s perception of the game.
@MasiMojoda
@MasiMojoda 4 года назад
@@crocmister1232 So giving it a 10/10 is ok? Talk about hypocrisy...
@6ixlxrd
@6ixlxrd 4 года назад
People love Darth Vader. Anakin Skywalker is a "beloved character", despite falling to the Dark Side and committing multiple mass acts of literal *galactic* genocide. He has the blood of an entire GALAXY on his hands, and he's beloved. So, someone please tell me, how is Joel not a beloved character?
@Roc_Official
@Roc_Official 4 года назад
Well said
@caav56
@caav56 4 года назад
Besides, does anyone actually think, that Fireflies - an unprofessional, understaffed, underequipped, terroristic organization - could've managed not only to make a cure (if it's even possible), but also to mass-produce and distribute it?
@earendilthemariner5546
@earendilthemariner5546 4 года назад
@@caav56 or, if they did manage to mass produce it, you think they are just going to willingly give it away?
@xelasneko
@xelasneko 4 года назад
@@earendilthemariner5546 In this shitty world? I can almost bet every faction who heard of the cure hunting the Fireflies down and ended up destroying them and the cure.
@caav56
@caav56 4 года назад
@@xelasneko Or Fireflies use it as a leverage to rebuild themselves.
@ionsilver557
@ionsilver557 4 года назад
That's why I always believe that a Steam-type review system is absolutely necessary for ANY major video game platform. Featuring with real player reviews (you must have that game and played it for at least a short period of time to review it), review rating function (other users can rate a review as useful or not, or simply a funny one), language and time filters let you specify the language of reviews and/or the publish date of reviews, and last but not the least, enough information about relations between reviewer and game (like their game is given for free or not, their total playtime and the playtime when they publish the review). For example, you may find a game with "Overwhelmingly Positive" rating in total, like 97% recommend or so, but it's recent 1-month rating is only a "Mixed", say 50% recommend. Then you can go check the actual review section and find out the reason easily: maybe the latest update totally broke this game in someway, or maybe just a new DLC with ridiculous price came out. And of course, when it comes to purchase-or-not advise, an actual review with 1000+ words and 300+ hrs playtime is much more informative than a hundred recommends with 1 word and 0.1 hrs playtime each. Sadly, I still haven't seen anything like this anywhere else.
@Snakedude4life
@Snakedude4life 4 года назад
“And then Ellie lives her worst nightmare of being alone in this world... THE END!” “Sounds bad.” “Ur just sexist and a homophone!” 🎩 🐍 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
@theraginggamer7433
@theraginggamer7433 4 года назад
“It’s got golf weed and maams a little something for everyone” - 10/10 IGN
@PK-ow1kj
@PK-ow1kj 4 года назад
Jesus Christ dude , just stop 😂😂😂😂😂
@stoppls1709
@stoppls1709 4 года назад
Lmfaoooo
@theraginggamer7433
@theraginggamer7433 4 года назад
Gcash Live chat lmao 😂
@wanderingbufoon
@wanderingbufoon 4 года назад
Now all we got is Lev/Lilly for "trans" Honestly, this sequel was more about political propaganda ego inflation than actually bringing you new content. The moment the DLC for the 1st game came out, I had an inkling that if there ever was a 2nd one, itll be just a preachy feel good ego booster. DLC was fine but it felt like it was just made to explore her sexuality (too much emphasis on it). Like, IDC if shes gay. Dont care for romance neither (straight or gay). Its nice they included them but I knew since it was "hot/in" they will all go all out on it. I hate how I was right.
@Ferguson011975
@Ferguson011975 4 года назад
I'm starting to notice that "10/10 IGN" is becoming a running gag.
@OoXLR8oO
@OoXLR8oO 4 года назад
I still don’t see how the game “shatters” critic review impressions. I thought Days Gone did that already.
@T1Top
@T1Top 4 года назад
I repeatedly kept getting killed by Ellie on purpose and just deleted it after when I had enough and then she lives happily ever after.
@thisSh1tHard
@thisSh1tHard 4 года назад
Ellie: Kills a pregnant woman Also Ellie when she can kill Abby: *"ItS nOt ThE rIgHt ThInG tO dO"*
@garrett2119
@garrett2119 4 года назад
But Ellie had a panic attack after finding out she didn’t know
@thoryon7767
@thoryon7767 4 года назад
Kills dozens of people, most for petty revenge reasons, kills a dog, a goddam pregnant woman, but cant kill the person that killed her father. This story is fanfic level stupid.
@Furzkampfbomber
@Furzkampfbomber 4 года назад
@@purplecipher6961 As far as I take it, it was actually self-defense. That woman actively tried to kill her.
@WoolleyGamer
@WoolleyGamer 4 года назад
@iantaylor you know FULL WELL Ellie had no idea she was pregnant, and THREW UP when she realised she was after she had already shot her in self defence. She regretted it . So quit being asinine
@Furzkampfbomber
@Furzkampfbomber 4 года назад
The most stupid thing is that this is supposed to be a tale about breaking the cycle of violance and revenge that begets violence and then Ellie, who eventually decides to really _break_ this cycle, loses everything, while violent psycho fem-man thing who has walked over corpses walks away with having lost nothing and while feeling not even a bit of remorse.
@noxe_gaming
@noxe_gaming 4 года назад
I know this goes for PC, but Steam reviews are legit the best way to tell if a game is good or not.
@RatedMforMatt-ure
@RatedMforMatt-ure 4 года назад
I've also noticed the past 4 or so years that steam reviews are actually a good way of seeing the common consensus on a title. It's become very useful
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 4 года назад
I'm not sure whether this game being a ps exclusive is a good thing or not in this case. Cuz on one hand, you guys don't have to suffer through this shit. But on the other hand, mods.
@info0
@info0 4 года назад
@@danialyousaf6456 mods only work when developers adorse them like City Skylines, Skyrim, etc. There were modable games which with patches or engine change were made unmodable. And I have a feeling Sony would have locked any form of modding. I have a feeling they will do it with HZD on PC (it's a trivial thing to lock out modding).
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 4 года назад
@@info0 hmm I guess so. They don't want us to make the characters any better looking cuz they'd feel threatened by that 🤣. Sony doesn't have to know about the mods tho. I've seen so many games with tons of mods for them.
@kingcraftbruh
@kingcraftbruh 4 года назад
Or you can just look at user reviews instead
@jslucassf
@jslucassf 4 года назад
This video is the most important thing out of all TLOU2 controversy. This needs more views.
@tomthomas3499
@tomthomas3499 4 года назад
so now playing a game is like enjoying an art, where you are either a genius to be able to enjoy it fully, or a bigot or an idiot for not liking it...holy sheet.
@-Ryu
@-Ryu 4 года назад
This game is at best, a 6/10, at worst, a 3/10. It's graphics are great, but being a PS4 game kinda makes that a given. The Gameplay is ok, just not as fluent as many expect, and the Story....I mean....Damn.
@ElementVoidX
@ElementVoidX 4 года назад
i have to agree, it is a story driven game, which means to me anyway, that the story and characters are the most important parts, who care if it is the best graphics, if the story is shit.
@tylerulfmann4586
@tylerulfmann4586 4 года назад
ElementVoidX And the story for the last of us 2 is basically the writing for game of thrones season 8 if we are being honest
@90bubbel60
@90bubbel60 4 года назад
3/10 seems tad low i would say 5-6
@slim420MM
@slim420MM 4 года назад
The only good thing about the game is that it exposed that the vast majority of gaming journalist are shills.
@nolydontcare2655
@nolydontcare2655 4 года назад
The game is at best a 10/10 at worst a 5/10
@marloc2019
@marloc2019 4 года назад
We've reached the point of having games that use virtue signalling and progressive narrative as immunity shield against criticism.
@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232
@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 4 года назад
I love Ellie, Joel, Dina and Tommy(up until his very uncharacteristic final scene). Ellie seemed uncharacteristic as well as Joel. The art and tech dev team deserve the masterpiece label...but the directors/writers deserve far less
@deemsleep9633
@deemsleep9633 4 года назад
Everything is an echo chamber these days . The internet has turned into a battlefield where scores are artillery rounds and if you’re dropping artillery rounds onto your opposition, it only makes sense to attack with 100% force. Who would drop an 85% effective attack onto their enemy? This is why every reviews is written for maximum damage as either 100 or 0
@hegyak
@hegyak 4 года назад
I think these reviews from the Critics where for a Different reason. "Talk good about our game. Or we will NOT give you access to our stuff after this." MSM Does this too.
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 4 года назад
The whole industry "does this". The scary part is that they don't need to say, or even hint at, any of that. Critics just take it as a foregone conclusion. "If I say anything too bad about any AAA game, my career is over."
@ionseven
@ionseven 4 года назад
Entertainment Industry setting up HBO's TLOU show image like Netflix's Witcher, to replace "morally gray" GoT not understanding it takes a master author like GRRM whose entire books made that show happen. Cant just brute force weird ass mentally disturbed themes without story using wannabe Hemingway writers who dont want to spend the time fleshing it out properly, but still want ALL the praise.
@gemelwalters2942
@gemelwalters2942 4 года назад
You do realize the Witcher is also based on a series of books right :/ and GoT final two seasons were trash so it's a bit too early to judge a series from just 1 season. You fanboys are toxic as hell
@captgeech
@captgeech 4 года назад
Odd that when I step away from the internet and talk to people IRL, people's opinions of this game pretty much align with critics. I guess I'm a fool and have filled my social circle with idiots.
@annabella1650
@annabella1650 4 года назад
I wouldn’t say idiots, just people who don’t care about what’s going on in the industry and probably aren’t paying much attention to the plot. Plenty of people praise games with crappy writing.
@stupidpol
@stupidpol 4 года назад
@@annabella1650 i love this game because of its brilliant writing (gameplay is bad, alas).
@hederahelix4600
@hederahelix4600 4 года назад
Excellent video. The discrepancy between professional pre release reviews and reality is astounding. Also - since when have games become something like arthouse cinema? I appreciate it when games get social commentary right but if the game is bad, then i won't play it. I have a master's degree in literature and consider myself a liberal woman. But this shouldn't be relevant for a video game review. Why do I have to be grouped in by a critic as a bigot if I don't like a game for having bad pacing, boring repetetive gameplay and way too much violence? And yes - also a bad story.
@JamesCarmichael
@JamesCarmichael 4 года назад
Did anyone see Kojima Productions' reply to a player who "sold Death Stranding to get TLoUp2?"
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 4 года назад
Was he executed ?
@Super60429
@Super60429 4 года назад
I mean, Death Stranding was terrible but trading it for this game is just an idiotic move in general.
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 4 года назад
@@Super60429 yup. At the very least it has some replay value compared to the last of ma'am part 2
@LoreliaDeMildiane
@LoreliaDeMildiane 4 года назад
Yes and it was hilarious :)
@852internationalconnect
@852internationalconnect 4 года назад
@@danialyousaf6456 IT'S MA'AM
@sado429
@sado429 4 года назад
Critics: Golf has never been this satisfying. 10/10, It's a *MASTERPIECE* Joel: Am I a joke to you?
@IniziaGara
@IniziaGara 4 года назад
is this a joke? I don't get it
@Cri_Jackal
@Cri_Jackal 4 года назад
@@IniziaGara "Golf Club" Sweet baby jesus you are still innocent.
@dave9020
@dave9020 4 года назад
@@IniziaGara Well... oh boy. I don't think I want to explain it.
@srjonsey9208
@srjonsey9208 4 года назад
sounds like you're trying to make a joke out of it, just lacking the fun aspect.
@zombieneith7
@zombieneith7 4 года назад
@@srjonsey9208 Haven't you heard? "We don't use the word fun."
@lorievans1760
@lorievans1760 4 года назад
IGN said that the Spongebob Remaster is too "Kid friendly" even though the game is focused for kids and even has the announcer say "Are you ready kids?" in the beginning...
@StopHim
@StopHim 4 года назад
I’ve never tapped “Like” harder on a video than this one. Kudos.
@braysheep7711
@braysheep7711 4 года назад
I’ll never trust a critics review again, I feel so betrayed. GoT season 8 and Star Wars the last Jedi are the closest comparisons.
@miety111
@miety111 4 года назад
Why is everything going so badly in this period? Everything has disappointed me
@cygnusfloyd
@cygnusfloyd 4 года назад
@Andrew Jackson It is now, but there used to be gold on TV. Gold, Jerry.
@LightningNC
@LightningNC 4 года назад
Every few years, some huge issue with reviewers like this comes along, and we all swear that we'll never trust them again. But they never go away. Nothing ever sticks to them. I still remember the Kane & Lynch thing. That was supposed to be some big industry turning point, too. And it wasn't. Nothing ever is. That's why they can just get away with printing 100s for games like this -- because they know that there are no consequences.
@legendaryitem2815
@legendaryitem2815 4 года назад
Game journalist, like a lot of the mainstream media, don't care about giving you an opinion anymore, they just want to tell you what your opinion should be and the consensus (a.k.a "The Narrative") that you should be adhering to. Woe betides anyone who dares to disagree with them.
@nathonmowbray
@nathonmowbray 4 года назад
My biggest gripe with the game is spending [spoiler] time playing Abby. I think this would have been better as a DLC. I understand from ND's perspective the structure they decided on.[/spoiler]
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments 4 года назад
If we take any positive out of all this, it's that the deep corruption of game critics has been exposed to many new ppl.
@umbranoctis4348
@umbranoctis4348 4 года назад
@Andrew Jackson Basically almost every "critic" who got to review the game before launch gave it a 100 % perfect score, despite the fact that the game would clearly not be loved by everyone who plays it. So these people's reviews can't be considered "This is what the game is like", but rather a "Hey look guys, I gave this a 100, too. We don't care what the players will think about it, right?"
@CreativeMonsterx
@CreativeMonsterx 4 года назад
I've said this before, and I'll say it again...I'm glad I didn't buy this game. It's a shame because I absolutely loved the first one.
@artemkoropotkin3047
@artemkoropotkin3047 4 года назад
Honestly the game-play, although it hasn't changed a lot from the first game, was very solid. The visuals amazing but the story was just average and its painful to say that about a Naughty Dog IP. One of my major issues with the game was controlling the she hulk, I like lean and muscular women but THAT much muscle is TOO much.
@jase276
@jase276 4 года назад
I agree. Abby's design was just jarring and unnecessary since literally everyone in the game has a gun or giant hammer. I actually liked her design at the end more. No one else was as ripped as she was, I would've preferred a normal design for her so she wouldn't look like such a freak of nature.
@ianmason6446
@ianmason6446 4 года назад
@@artemkoropotkin3047 Seriously? That's your complaint? That Abby was too built? Holy fuck dude why?!? She was driven to that by her desire for revenge.
@ianmason6446
@ianmason6446 4 года назад
@@jase276 She was a freak of nature because she wanted to kill Joel. That's it. Her desire for revenge drove her to become that extreme monster.
@ianmason6446
@ianmason6446 4 года назад
Then it's a shame you are missing out for almost no reason. Combat and game play is the same as it was in the first one. The only issue I can see people having with this game, aside from Joel's fate, is that you don't play the whole game as Ellie. I unlocked some of the concept art and the pieces that showed Ellie in the Scar camps rubbed me the wrong way. I know they weren't trying to tip their hand with that but then that first trailer dropped centered around Abby and it seemed like the time to talk about how it wasn't only Ellie's story.
@anqa_game
@anqa_game 4 года назад
A serious question, why are the enemies glowing white? Even though u have a tp camera, can it be turned of?
@eslerheyd6383
@eslerheyd6383 4 года назад
I'm like 3 hours in and 90% of my kills have been sneaking up behind someone to then have the same animation of a stealth kill over and over again.
@rubberduck8867
@rubberduck8867 4 года назад
Is everyone forgetting when IGN told WB their cheque bounced and they may have to change their review? That factually happened, so literal money does get exchanged in some cases
@Ashtarte3D
@Ashtarte3D 4 года назад
Source or didn't happen.
@CyberChrist
@CyberChrist 4 года назад
@@Ashtarte3D Indeed.
@mpforeverunlimited
@mpforeverunlimited 4 года назад
Link?
@guccigucci5002
@guccigucci5002 4 года назад
any reviewer who has this game within 30 points of RD2, witcher 3, mass effect 2, god of war is a HACK a paid shill
@roberteli5235
@roberteli5235 4 года назад
Preach!
@hassathunter2464
@hassathunter2464 4 года назад
Its almost like they rate on agenda ... like Last Jedi, Star Trek Dr. Who etc. Etc.
@Batedelarge
@Batedelarge 4 года назад
You hit the nail on the head with this video dude. I'm glad someone finally came forward and said this. Subscribed!
@paulhedrick1098
@paulhedrick1098 4 года назад
We love dogs... (makes you brutally massacre a dog) ...as plot devices to push our narrative.
@darkdevilkillsddk4676
@darkdevilkillsddk4676 4 года назад
Its not that they make you kill them. The problem is them lying to you about it. Like other things. Neil said it was another character who did the sex scene, yet there is a pinture of him using the oufit
@donaldduncan1127
@donaldduncan1127 4 года назад
@@darkdevilkillsddk4676 the picture was proven to be photoshopped.
@CIintB3ASTW0oD
@CIintB3ASTW0oD 4 года назад
@@donaldduncan1127 It was photoshopped, but wasn't it weird that a mannequin was used instead of a real person? Hmm, I wonder why...
@darkdevilkillsddk4676
@darkdevilkillsddk4676 4 года назад
@@donaldduncan1127well then how about how they mislead people to buy their game by introducing fake models of joel in cutscenes to give players the impression that you would be with him for a while?
@donaldduncan1127
@donaldduncan1127 4 года назад
@@darkdevilkillsddk4676 im not defending the game at all, or ND, personally ill never buy another product as I haven't been that big of a fan of them to begin with so I don't feel im missing out on much. I just don't like false claims, if it comes out it was true that he mo-capped himself into that scene then I'll stand corrected and admit that. Over all ND needs to put down the shovel and stop digging.
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 4 года назад
The last of us 1: building the best relationship in gaming history. All about to doing what you must do to survive, but to also be able to live for something other then surviving for surviving sake. The whole game was about Ellie learning to mature and Joel sacrificing so much to give Ellie a wholesome childhood and raise her as his own, and reconnecting with the positive parts of humanity in dark times. Last of us 2: yeah let’s take all of the time you invested in the first game and everything you like about the series, and either torture it to death or torment the innocent child character- all for a cheap ass “your not so different you and I. revenge is bad “ story. Thanks for making a game where the the last of us one’s story was completely meaningless. This franchise only exists now to take Elly, bate her with a stable and somewhat normal upbringing (because that’s what she feared in the first game- being abandoned or pushed onto someone else), and then beat her surrogate dad to death with a golf club, be disowned by the rest of her loved ones who didn’t die or get brutally beaten before her eyes, get her fingers bitten off, and give her ptsd. This game made the other game literally about giving a child false hope and then tormenting her. It’s not deep it’s being sadistic and gratuitous just to push the vengeance is bad agenda at the expense of everything that was good about the franchise. Can we just acknowledge here that this is the apocalypse so there is no criminal justice system you can put faith in to punish bad. Oh and Elly disowns Joel and shows no sympathy and acts in-spite of what Joel wanted until the very end! How could she not get it when Joel strait up tells her he can’t live without her and he’s sorry multiple times! So Ellie ruined too. Your a survivor and your choices are to kill a roaming militant possey so they don’t kill future people or do nothing as they go to kill another day. I understand Joel dying for Joel’s mistakes narrative wise even if it was written by making Joel stupid and coincidence and not at all cathartic, but Ellie being tormented for Joel’s slip ups? Ellie was unconscious when Joel killed Abby’s dad. Ellie looses more then Joel does and Abby gets her revenge and gets to be saved by the person who’s father she beat to death and then she boats off with her family and all it cost her were the accomplices she used and her relationship with abusive militant organizations who she betrays herself anyway. It’s not like Abby was a one off revenger who otherwise was a nice girl who will retire to a village: no she belongs to a militant organization who goes rounds bullying and torturing others who don’t comply. If Ellie were to forgive her then and there, Abby would go on to shoot up who knows how many random survivors in name of some bs cause. Now all the people and time who were killed in this game and the first game were for nothing. If Abby cared about loosing her father she maybe would have think twice when beating a dad to death with a golf club with his daughter begging Abby to stop after that same guy saved her life, and offing the dude who impregnated Dina, and perhaps not relishing the idea of slitting a pregnant women’s throat. You want to talk “breaking the cycle of violence” Abby had more character motivation/self awareness too stop then Elly. Abby shows No remorse. Letting Tommy and Elly live wasn’t Abby’s idea it was some random background charichters. Elly at least gave each of her accomplices the possibility to just give up information but they attacked her anyway and Elly is distressed afterwords. Imagine a story about forgiveness and revenge where they actually forgive each other with dialogue, can choose non violent ways of resolutions, and better yet have to unite to save the ones they love? Or you know you can end it with Elly literally never saying “I forgive you to Abby” and not talking it out but instead breaking down into an uneventful knife fight. No reason they could not have united in the end; scars could of abducted Abby’s and Ellie’s lover. Or at least talk it out but know “Just go!” Is it and the forgiver gets mutilated. Very deep way to explore your theme .10/10 don’t buy it if you care about storytelling. Joel positive arc all for Ellie’s tragic tormented fate is just a waste of time. +1-1=0 a waste of time. They didn’t even give Ellie a chance to grow up and develop before throwing her out of the buss.
@elliottgaal9774
@elliottgaal9774 4 года назад
Long story short, they screwed over Joel and Ellie in order to push BS politics into a game where such things would be rare.
@lulu1night4ever
@lulu1night4ever 4 года назад
Uh, did you not see the ending the last of us one? Did you not see how Joel murdered an innocent firefly surgeon and lie to Ellie? What the fuck did you think was gonna happen in a sequel? Ellie’s jus gonna be like “oh the fans want us to maintain their one dimensional comprehension of the first game, so I won’t question Joel’s actions, and fall in line just to keep up with their shallow analytical skills” 🙄
@foehammerone
@foehammerone 4 года назад
I agree 100%
@speedgamer_one9573
@speedgamer_one9573 4 года назад
come on just because things turned out the way u did not want does not make the game bad......in my opinion....last of us 2 has lived up to its sequel and it amazing
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 4 года назад
Andrew Jackson I got to say Telltale did it better here. I thought the the last us one had the better start but chose for the sequel to conclude it unsatisfying. Both series ended pretty bad but the relationship dynamic between Clementine and Lee stuck the landing better then Joel and Ellie.
@F10n0
@F10n0 4 года назад
I feel like this divide is true as well for movies as well. I find to go with the audience opinion over "professional reviews" mostly because it feels that the audience opinion are those that dont particularly have a stake in the property and are just looking for a good movie/game/show/etc
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 года назад
The question, whether the critics are right and the wider audience is wrong, is completely beside the point. Because it is not the job of a critic to be better than the audience. It is the job of a critic to accurately represent a subject of which he or she has knowledge of to their audience in a way that can be used by that audience to make a decision about the subject which they only have this second hand knowledge about, that the critic imparted on them. The critic is an agent of the audience, not vice versa. Therefore even if the audience was objectively wrong, it would still be right by the very definition. Just is a Politician is wrong by definition if he or she goes against public opinion. Even though the politician may be objectively right, it is not the job of the politician to be right or wrong but to execute the will of the people.
@JohnCS69
@JohnCS69 4 года назад
This is the first game that I didn't think of as good or bad, but getting to the end I just wished it wasn't made. I can never go back and enjoy TLOU 1 again.
@donniechant1357
@donniechant1357 4 года назад
Tlou 1 was ruined
@adamgray1753
@adamgray1753 4 года назад
I never played either game, @@donniechant1357 and Brad. From the sound of things The Last of Us 2 got the Mass Effect 3 treatment which has severely hampered my desire to play through the trilogy since ME3 came out.
@TokyoKazama
@TokyoKazama 4 года назад
Damn. That bad huh?
@zachabsher8546
@zachabsher8546 4 года назад
I feel like it makes it better lmfao
@ianmason6446
@ianmason6446 4 года назад
@@donniechant1357 How so?
@miscellaneousmerchandise4160
@miscellaneousmerchandise4160 4 года назад
Now they need to give cyberpunk an 11 out of 10
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy
@AleksandrStrizhevskiy 4 года назад
It'll get 3/10 for not enough virtue signaling
@supersoldierx40
@supersoldierx40 4 года назад
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy u can customize genitals its sjwish
@Troll_vs.
@Troll_vs. 4 года назад
@@supersoldierx40 nah because you can make women look like women. So they gonna look for any reason to bash it.
@sobversion3
@sobversion3 4 года назад
Itll be the same shit minus the review bombing; perfect reviews from traditional media outlets and high marks from consumers
@jamessalvatore7054
@jamessalvatore7054 4 года назад
@@supersoldierx40 Who cares. That's just cool. More customization the better. As long as its not preaching WHITE MAN BAD... then its fine. And it wont do this because CD Project Red actually know better, thankfully. Might as well enjoy it since everything else these days cant help but to cater to the hate mob and go broke.
@jaredphelps4226
@jaredphelps4226 4 года назад
Thank you for taking time to make this. I saw the comparison between ign/last of us 2 and rotton tomatoes/dave Chappelle as well. Subscribed man! Keep doing your thing
@UrikShinoob
@UrikShinoob 4 года назад
Naughty Dogs: You will only be allowed to play the first 10 hours of game, the other 10 will be locked(don't ask why please!!). "Professional" reviewer: Seen's fair.
@Tetrumo
@Tetrumo 4 года назад
I can see that being the case. Everyone just going along with what everyone else is saying, some of the critics being activists and the rest just not wanting to be hounded by the mob. In either case, I think every one of these ‘critics’ should be fired.
@tron0150
@tron0150 4 года назад
No, it's much more with regular players
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