Last Stand of the E60s - North Philadelphia, PA - 2/24/03 

It was a good time for sure!! Now you get ACS-64s and ACELAs and that's it.

Capturing the Rails MARC is still using HHPs

LittleDeez I know, I was referring to Amtrak only.

2001 Amtrak had the hhp8/Acela,aem7,e60,p40,f40/npcu,f59,dash 8 and p42 for main power

But now hey have p42 p40 f59hpi npcu Acela acs64 and dash 8s for main power In 2018 that is

Cool

Yes exactly!!! Funny & sad...

When I was editing this video I noticed that right away...I pass the museum fairly often.

Aren't you the guy who claimed to be Connyx's son and distributed her content without license?

@@ktrainBFS No that's not me (or are you referring to slenderman?)

@@lappdawg27videos Yes I am

Wow really very cool when you seen the video back in 2003 and you seen it now very cool not gonna lie

Yummy

*eats*

"Hooking up the country helping business run"🗣️

"And derailing people's lives"🗣

Thanks for the comments! I used to do this a lot...go to one place and sit there all day and record what went past.

@@lappdawg27videosI do the exact same thing

@@lappdawg27videosI just want a better camera

I hate when people recording the train either talk or record and not show the train leave or go past at all

@@mattk9644 I agree. People have gotten lazy with filming. Nowadays, it’s so easy, you could just record on your phone or iPad.

dude same

I was searching through some old forum posts and it seems that their (E60) use on the Keystones was something they did towards the end of their life. At this time the Keystones west of Philly were still diesel powered so an engine change at 30th street was necessary for the NEC section between NY and Philly.

The E60’s were retired almost 2 years before I was born. I plan to go see 603 at the museum.

Me too!!

Same here, I love their horns and their aesthetic

15:51 That E60 has a EMD steel bell

Glad you like it! When I posted it I figured it would do well. When it comes to passenger trains, this was easily one of the best days I had filming. I wish I would have had a better camera then!

It's definitely a treasure trove of trains and I'm glad you uploaded it for sure!

Glad you enjoyed it!

I was 12 days old

They didn't pass over any grade crossings, so they were exempt

Capturing the Rails Actually, some E60’s had ditch lights on the top, and the headlight on the nose

But that could’ve possibly been the ones with steam generators

@@kryhtz They are oscitrol headlights

SuperWorldFan360 Yeah, I didn’t know how to spell it. XD

...nice

CTR Aerial, I like the E60.

I agree...variety is so much better!

You bet!!

Thanks for the comments...glad you liked it!!

Pretty much everything was!!

@THE TIME IS MEOW! THEE last P5 on Amtrak is CDTX 8306. The last P5 on a locomotive was probably this one because F40PH 229 (which had a P5 until 6 years ago) was already an NPCU in 1998.

F40PH 226 had a Nathan P01235 until when it was retired.

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MrSonicthehedgehog31 Ikr I had the same thing

2000

The Graham White 373 Electronic Solenoid Bell was developed in the mid 90s, and was first applied to AEM-7 #916 during it's rebuild into an AEM-7AC. 916 was released on 11/15/99.

It would be killer to see some E60’s in Phase IV & V

'Ello govna

Makes me feel kinda old!!

Ryan’s Colorado Rail Productions I was born 11 days after you, and I would’ve been a day old when this video was taken.

Ryan’s Colorado Rail Productions I was born on July 31, 2003 so I didn’t even exist yet :/

MB_Rock03 I was born on December 28, 2005. :/

Frowny13 [Frowny Toboban] Those are pantographs and they were in reverse form.

Joshua The Transit Prodigy Coley That's not what he meant

@@JoshuaTheTransitProdigy look at the top of both sides of the train

They would've looked cursed, and plus it's not their fault they didn't gave these things different phase colors

@@infaredxkingz8786 would it have been cursed? Or is that the perspective u have of it since it didn’t exist?

GACHA-Kaci&robotdesfan! Robloxs trains and more!, Rare.

You mean Phase 4 Amfleets?

Imagine Amtrak making phase V amfleets

@@robloxgamingrailfanner420 not rare enough but ok…

When the E60s were getting their daily repairs and getting their parts from the tracks and risking people's lives

I had heard of the swaying problem before. I always thought they were cool just because they were something different...thanks for sharing!

@@lappdawg27videos Until the Shock Absorbers were added, and they didn’t last long before they wore out. One way to sort of control the lateral motion was to apply 10 to 15 pounds on the right independent locomotive brake. This would generally reduce the lateral motion that was bearable. I’m telling you this. Sometimes the lateral motion was so bad and really scary. The locomotives Wheel flanges would slam against the inside of the rail to the point, that I couldn’t believe the locomotive didn’t spread or break the rail and derail. Unlike the GG-1’s that were extremely loud, drafty, had hardly any heat, no air conditioning, greasy and dirty. But with all the GG-1’s faults. They were extremely reliable, extremely smooth running at any speeds up to 100 mph plus and were extremely powerful and also my favorite Electric Locomotive. The E-60’s had great heat, air conditioning and were not as noisy.

@@mdlanor5414 Hard to find any video of the GG1 rocking back and forth side to side.

The GG-1 was absolutely the smoothest locomotives I’ve ever operated. From starting to move all the way up to 100 mph plus.It was articulated and had 12 wheels with drivers and two,two axle trolleys. That’s 20 wheels making contact with the rail. The E-60’s were originally designed to go 100 mph. When going 50 mph plus. These locomotives had extreme lateral motion. At 100 mph it was scary.To the point of being worried that either the flanges on the wheels would fail and or the rail would spread or break. It didn’t take long for the Amtrak to lower the E-60’s to 80 mph maximum speed, and add shock absorbers to the trucks and frame. They did completely stop the lateral motion and had to be replaced regularly. The E-44 freight locomotives would sometimes develop lateral motion. The shock absorbers would be replaced regularly. Other than the E-60. I don’t recall any other locomotives having extreme lateral motion. If you would be using a switcher locomotive and have to go on the main line these locomotives would develop some lateral motion. Their maximum speed was 50 mph and it was rare that the switchers would be used on the mainline and most wouldn’t go 50 mph anyway. @@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 .

So would you rather hear annoying idling or risking getting into a crash?

I would think it's still about the same....just less variety of motive power.

I believe MARC ordered their HHP-8s new at the same time Amtrak got theirs. All the Amtrak units are stored.

One or two did. The rest had the Acela type bell

Thier still around. But only for another year if avelia liberty does well

Xinless Vice that’s not what he meant. He means the Acela Regional repainted amfleets.

Probably mine too! This was the second time I ever saw one!

Yes. They were first used in 2000.

slenderman7676 Rblx I did on a Hhp8

Phase IVb does not exist. The Phases that do exist are Phases I-VI, no a, b, c lettering at all. Phases seen in this video are III, IV, V, and VI. Proof: ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/77875232777326664/filePointer/77875232777326682/fodoid/77875232777326678/Amtrak%20Paint%20Scheme%20and%20Logo%20Guide%20web%2012-5-17.pdf Matt Donnelly made this publicly available. He is very high up in Amtrak's marketing department.

@@amtrakinoscale9811 If you read the document you linked, you would see under Phase VI, a sentence reads "Often referred to as Phase IVb." And as the first 5 Chargers will have a new scheme, which will be called Phase VI, it's new name is Phase IVb.

@@AVeryRandomPerson Yeah that's not correct. It does say "often referred to as Phase IVb", but it does not say that Phase IVb is the correct term. The reason Phase IVb is even mentioned at all is because Matt Donnelly was simply being pragmatic. He understood that there were plenty of people out there that were ignorant to the correct and official name of Phase VI. The new Charger paint scheme for the long distance Chargers is simply a variation of Phase VI. Matt has posted about this before, and if you look, you can find it. I can understand that it's hard to give up terms you're used to using, but that's partially why the guide was created at all, to get railfans to stop using incorrect terminology. Amtrak does not use a b c and so on for variations, or at all for that matter.

@@AVeryRandomPerson Who said you named paint schemes? Phase VI doesn’t become Phase IVb because you think it does. Phase VI stays as Phase VI, per Amtrak.

I was a pretty meticulous note-taker back then. I was also cross-referencing a timetable from that year when I edited this video. I am pretty sure it's 92, although I guess anything is possible on those long distance trains, esp. when they get delayed down south somewhere.

Its definitely #92

The ACELA does have them, in the first scene they are flashing...they are about the height of the point on the nose but back pretty far. The E60s didn't have them because there are no grade crossings between NY and Washington DC.

Capturing the Rails thanks never noticed the Acela ditchlights seems like they need to relocate them because they are very hard to see

It was discontinued in the early 2000s...do a Google search for "Amtrak Capstone Project", that should give you a better explanation.

OK thanks!

Why did it still get used anyway?

I think that's why this video has done so well...lots of old and new stuff mixed together.

There wasn't a TON of people using it, but it wasn't a complete ghost town either. It really isn't in a great neighborhood either (at least from what I was told). I guess I'm lucky I went in the winter!

E60s were exempt as they did not use any road crossings.

That's an HHP-8

Look up "Capstone Project" on Google...they were being refurbished and repainted as part of that project but once David Gunn took over he had the cars painted back into their current paint scheme.

You want the E60s back? Blud, you do know these things are retired and scrapped for a good reason you know?

They are all retired so zero are operational. I know there is one on display at the RR Museum of PA.

Oh wow

Its the one at 2:32!!!!!

Back when 603 was leaving parts all around the tracks

I'm sure they figured it was a waste of time since they were on their last legs.

@@lappdawg27videos I wish they could restore the e60 603

So it can get its daily repairs?