LC78 TROOPY VS LC76-WAGON? WHAT'S BETTER? Toyota Land Cruiser Review | 4xOverland 

I can't put my finger on it, but something about your channel is so pure and unselfish. It's not for Fame or money but purely passion. I can't explain how much I come home and need these videos some days. To make me feel like a human again.

Being able to sleep in-vehicle is such a huge benefit for so many reasons And for those that have never had that option, you would never know. Being able to wake up and leave camp at 5am with no packing up Being able to turn the vehicle on and run the heater on freezing mornings Being able to wake up in a down pour of rain and leave without stepping out of the vehicle Being able to drive further at night, because setting up for the night is so easy Only needing the vehicle footprint to camp up Access to fridge and supplies at all times The ability to urban camp when you have too

All valid points. 70 Series are for the enthusiast only, ready for serious building and touring. Love our 76, deleted back seats and gullwings - perfect tourer for two. Great Video.

I got one... And I love it so much... It's a big van with a powerful engine and a superb 4x4 capabilities Troopy for life .. thanx Andrew

No doubt the troopy is a better overland/touring vehicle. It has unparalleled space and customisability, and far superior fuel capactiy. I ordered one then changed my mind and bought a 76. I needed a vehicle that I can live with every single day. The troopy is 2.1m tall stock, which is the height of standard garages and carparks in NSW. So once you fit a rack, lift and 33s you can say goodbye to using the troopy to get the groceries. The shorter wheelbase of the 76 also gives it a much better turning circle and makes it reasonable to live with every day in urban areas. I'm looking to to remove remove the rear seat and fit a cargo platform and second spare wheel inside. Water tanks in the rear footwells, 180L long ranger tank and 40L fuel on the rear bar, then suddenly you have vehicle that can go everywhere the troopy can but is easier to live with on a day to day basis.

Came here for Attenborough comments, wasn't disappointed. Keep up the videos Mr. White. 👍

Great report, got to say...I love my 76 we are a family of 4 and we spend up to two weeks in the bush with our 76. You have to learn the art of packing and taking things you NEED not WANT on any trip. If I did it all a gain it would be a 200 GX for us.

"to offroad or not offroad: that is the question" (Shakespeare, W. 1986).

Americans would go berserk if they brought back a sqaureish land cruiser that looks like a 70 series. Especially a diesel version.

Wonderful to see ur passion for the Troopy Andrew, lovin ur vids!

Wow. It's not necessarily the price, but what you get for your money. Your dollars don't go really far on that troop carrier at all. I could purchase and do an all-out build on an E-series Ford van and I could probably come out right about where just the purchasing price is on that troopy, and have more room! Or even do a Cummins diesel swap in a chevy suburban with an all-out overlanding setup, and be well under that Troopy purchase budget. I guess that guy was right, you have to really want that stripped-out van to buy one. You do a great job with the channel Andrew, I'm a huge fan!

"I off road therefore I am" Descartes 😂

I have a 2002 Tacoma, and I had a 1987 Toyota pick up (it was stolen by drug addicts). I just love the no frills, pure function over style of my Tacoma. Absolutely love it. Here's another reason I really like this channel - Andrew is wearing a Submariner.

Well made points. We have a 76 and are normally 2, but sometimes the grandkids want to come along. So the seats are important. So is the shorter wheel base in the rough. I have built a lightweight platform which I pop in after having removed the back seat (4 bolts). Use the same bolts to secure the platform which covers a 70l water tank plus some storage space. The platform is the same height as the rear drawer system, so we can sleep in the rear if we need to. Yes, the shorter wheelbase makes this a bit cramped, and one needs to push the front seat forward and throw a bag or two in there to extend the bed-but it is not normal for us to want to sleep inside the vehicle so it does the job. Troopy is a great project vehicle!

A Troopy with rear doors and coils all around would be pretty sweet.

You’re the most sincere, I’d go straight to the shop cause of your word

LR(Disco)3- roof top tent, kitchen and water/shower set up in the rear, as well as gear storage on top of that. Rear seats fold to a double bed. Seats five. Sleeps five. I meant to replace the air suspension, but it works too well. Then I thought ,"I'll put spring in when it goes..." 120K miles and counting, 95k+ off road. Central and North America only... But, every flipping inch of it! Edit*** I love this channel BTW.

This is like if sir David Attenborough was a car reviewer. Super calm, collected, well spoken.

[8:55] No longer the case, as they have introduced Alu-Cab THOR Roof Conversion for LC76. I would still prefer a Troopy as it has more storage space and "so much scope of development."

I have a 1996 FJ73 soft top. I live in South America. It's a better off-road vehicle than the troopy and wagon but probably small for overlanding in Africa and Australia due to everyone wanting huge rooftop tents and the weight everyone adds. But the midsize wheel base is better for action. We have a ton of old 4x4 vehicles here in Colombia that are rare releases for the rest of the world. They've never stopped making the short and mid wheel base 70 series here. It's old 4x4 heaven here. 40-90 series everywhere on the road. Jeep Willys and land Rover defenders also.

Whatever this guy is on... I am all in!

Can you please do a re comparison of the 76,78 and include the 79

My troopy has turned into a nightmare.. I recently pulled all the interior out of my troopy due to rust caused by rain water leaking in from many many places.. I was shocked at what I found behind the scenes. I pulled the roof liner out to find large areas that were unpainted bare steal covered in rust, I removed the door seal and found large holes around where the steel is joined together and mistakes were made during manufacturing, which has caused door frame to crack. The roof gutters and most of the body frame is full of glue or bog from factory which is becoming unstuck and cracked allowing water to leak in causing rust. The bolts used to hold the body frame together around the engine bay are undersized and have broken completely off. Very large cracks have appeared around the bonnet hinges and the bog is starting to break away. The steel is so thin in areas that you can tare it in half like paper with bare hands. All the plastic parts on my troopy are turning to dust after 10 years or so and it is very hard to find replacement parts for these vehicles. There is mind boggling amounts of plastic clips that hold the interior together rather then screws which makes it impossible to remove without breaking them. The list of problems with my troopy is getting longer. I have no idea how Toyota are allowed to sell these cars. These vehicles are very poorly made, unsafe and terrible to drive but yet they are so expensive to buy used. You literally get nothing for what you pay for a Toyota so I will be selling my troopy to some poor bugger as soon as I can find some parts for it..

He reminds me of the “Actually” meme kid that has grown up. Exactly the same build and mannerisms too.

I would like to see a video about choosing the right overland car in europe and which top 5 cars you would buy in 2019. I think that is a very tough one. (there is no troopy, no defender anymore...) have fun and as always great video!

This is such a great video. I love how understatedly funny it is

I See die 76 wagon more as a passender car, while the troopy is more a small offorad van, that can be fitted for various needs...

but you are funny Andrew. always puts a smile on the dial. like E C , I look forward to your videos. I also own a troopie. 1991 with 1995 running gear. I find looking at this video the similarities between the 76 and mine. the heater controls are identical. lol. keep up the great work mate. cheers

Great video Andrew, well explained and well thought out for the pro's and con's of both vehicles. Cheers, Don (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)

They really need to fix the rear track and the clutch. That clutch is far to weak. It needs replacing with an aftermarket one immediately you take delivery.

Love my 80 but dream of models not sold here in the USA. Land cruiser is king!

In Australia we have troopys with a rear passenger door. Usually rusty and flogged because they are ex mining cars

Iv had both yes the troopy has heaps of room i miss it heaps, but i now have kids and the 76 series 4 doors work for us they both awsome rigs

GO THE 76!!! 👍

Great stuff as always Andrew! Ques - Although for your traveling style the Troopy in it's current 2 door configuration is perfect especially once heavily modified. If Toyota offered a 5 door configuration do you think it would end the debate completely, at least for most parties? Do you think that's why they have yet to release one?

Good description and comparison given by you Sir.

Awesome , fantastic comparison .

Andrew what about a comparison between your v8 troopy and the old 1hd-fte troopy

Great video. I've often wondered how one accessed the rear seats in the Troopy

Humorous and informative, thank you

even if he was totally clean, the back area of the TC is better, I saw olders versions of that vans with original seats and is so easy to use them as beds if you want to sleep or make a simple convertion to somethig even more confortable

🎥👍👍👍! Toyota land Cruiser 70 series heavy-duty the best of the best 4×4👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪💪

Anyone want to talk about safety? Much was made about the Jeep Wrangler's dismal Euro NCAP 1-star rating, but Toyota won't even submit the 76 or troopie for testing! The 70-series single cab on the other hand did rather well in the Aussie equivalent (more or less?) ANCAP crash test.

You summed it up right. It’s a van. It’s a van on solid axels

I would say that both these 2 options are for the more "left field" traveler as the majority of 70 series you see out and about are 79 series single or duel cab.

One of my favorite youtube videos👌 Great work👍 Please do a comparison between the Nissan Patrol & LC 200..off road & overlanding.. Cheers mate

I would love to see this on tour in Vietnam.

Wish we had a troopy in the US. Closest we can get to that build that I can think of is a sportsmobile and you can’t even get a new e150 for conversion anymore.

Nice comparison covering pros and cons 👍

Odd question to you all - I intend on buying a black Series HQ15 and do big long trips - looking for the best vehicle match - there are so many options that I am swamped - would love to hear from people who have done big Oz trips with lots of kms.

Loved this review! I have a 76 and a 79 6x6, if I camped more I would have certainly gone the troopy way. To me the biggest factor is also being out of the weather as things can get miserable especially if you haven’t had something to eat yet. Also fully agree on the level of work involved to ‘ready’ a 76 versus a troopy. Slap on a drawer system and fridge in the back of a 76 and you are good to go. But as a daily driver I very much appreciate the short wheelbase of the 76, especially after driving the 6x6 for the other 5 days in the week!

Love your channel.

I'm curious, how do you sleep in the troopy if you don't have a base in it? Do you sleep in the trunk of your vehicle? I'm confused because there certainly doesn't look like there's enough space to sleep in the back with those items.

I really want the 70 series but it's not sold in the US. "My disappointment is immeasurable"

It's a real shame that troopy's aren't available in Canada. I would buy one in a heartbeat.

my favorite vehicle

I've TLCP j78 96' 3.0td still in activity use

I would rather not have either, a 79 dual cab with alloy canopy on the back far better for 4wdriving with both of those vehicals all you hear is rattles and rattles and more rattles, with the canopy it is all in the back and no rattles

Wonderful... Now how about the troopy vs the 79 series 6x6 like you had in Dubai?

Thanks for the post with the 78/76 comparison....Been in love with my '86 Troopie since I bought her in '89...2nd owner and 30th anniversary this year...can't imagine any other vehicle would replace her, except another Troopie. Toyota dropped the ball spectacularly with the embarrassing engineering folly of the VDJ wheel-track mis-match. Destroyed the pedigree and must be corrected (see JMAX Qld coil rear end kits for a solution). Gibraltar Toyota website shows new model 6s with updates styling...why, Toyota, are these models not available in Oz? Why do a a front end restyle, but not carry it through to the rear end? Gull wing window are useful, but a friend bought and ex-Telstra troopie with gull-wing rear side doors both sides..it's really good configuration for access and functionality (probable hellish expensive to have done, but like ex-mining vehicles with the extra side door, worth waiting for).

As usual, awesome video...

Hello Andrew. Really enjoy your videos. Love your story time ones. :) Have enjoyed this series - I just got a Jeep Wrangler, and you are actually giving me ideas. Wondering if this build has been delivered yet and if so, what did they think of it?

I miss my 75 troopy. Maybe after the 105 I'll get one again.

Great review. Thanks.

This dude is like the David Attenborough of 4x4s

You can sometimes find troopys with a single rear passenger door! Best of both worlds

My question is whats the Troopy like without the roof tent? Can you still move around inside and access cabinets etc? I'm thinking about this and don't like the idea of cutting the roof off. One thing I've noticed is that even though the price difference is only around 5k new, on the second hand market it's more significant. The 78 holds it's value better due to scarcity. As a second hand proposition the 76 is actually at least 10k cheaper.

Hello,i am at this moment faced with this dillema wich type will suit me the best.the ease of the alu cab hercules is an enormes advantage for easy camping with the troopy.The advantage of acces with 5 doors on the 76 i can not ignore. Thanks for your oppinion. Ceep on the great videos.

David Attenborough of 4x4

Would it influence your thoughts and/or decision if you could get the pop-top conversion for the 76 as well? Seems it might even things out a good bit. Alu-Cab is currently working on a pop-top roof conversion for the 76. They've got pictures on their social media of one being installed over the past couple of weeks.

“A friend is someone who gives you total freedom to go offroad.” -Jim Morrison

Finally you can convert 76 now

HOLY F*** the inside of his truck. I was not expecting that.

i hope you can come guyana ... we have some of the most amazing terrain

Troopies are to top heavy 76 are a lot better but i think im gonna have to say 79s are the best

Alu-Cab recently released a similar roof conversion for the 76, called the "Thor". With that now available, would you reconsider your choice between Troopy and 76?

Well troopie for me any time, but right now brother has a 2012 era Subaru Forester, which is also a great car! The little car that could! But yeah not a troopie with big tyres...

Excellent presentation.

Have you lost any rigidity with the roof cut out?

Troopy for life.

Is it 76 series available only in Australia

In my opinion, Defender is one of the best combinations, but reliability again the issue...

Grande Andrew

Please keep the 76 series videos coming

I've been scouring the internet for answers but can't find it. I live in Canada, we don't have the 70 series here, is it possible to get one imported here ?

It would be great to see what conversion he can do with an old Land Rover 101 Forward Control!

Thoughts on a chopped troop carrier? Maybe single cab?

fantastic video

4xoverland your thoughts on the Alucab Thor conversion for the 76, compared to the Troopy?

Hi Andrew, I am looking to add a catch can and an additional fuel filter to my 76 wagon. Could you recommend some nice workshops around Melbourne who can do nice jobs?

For Overlanding, the Troopy wins but for a general 4x4 the 76. I giggle when Andrew says things like, the old 1HZ six cylinder was dreadfully under powered. I have a 2.4 Prado 70, I dream of the power of a 1HZ! The dashboard is ancient he said? Mine has the original dashboard! I love it though, if a bulb blows or something fails, one screwdriver and one socket and I can have the whole thing apart without one piece of broken plastic trim. It has never failed it's yearly test (MOT in the UK) on an ABS warning light. It doesn't have any ABS. It doesn't have "limp home mode" but it has a huge engine bay that I can work on and see if something is going wrong, so she never needs to limp home. The 70 series is one of the last vehicles that can be fixed by a bush mechanic. The more I work on one, the more I admire the genius of Japanese design and engineering. ( I grew up in the UK in love with Land Rovers but feel like a jilted boyfriend because they constantly betray you with empty promises. For 20+years they have been saying a new Defender is coming. And they have been promising improved reliability for as long as I can remember.) So to sum up, what is the best Overland/ rugged 4x4. It is a Toyota whatever flavour is your favourite. Well done Toyota. We salute you.

Better still a troopy with one or even two side doors. I've seen such a beast, and now I know as I thought at the time it was (professional) after fitment

Why have these never been available in the US!?

Is there any other way to be ur patreon other than paypal or credit card like debit card as we dont have these options available here in Pakistan

If you want to go bush you take a Landrover, if you want to come back you take a Landcruiser.................

Hi Andrew, can you do a video on the six door 76 I want to hear your thoughts on it please

I am a wannabe 76 owner, can someone 180cm sleep in the back if the back seat is removed?

is the tropp carrier roof removable? or do you have to cut it completely?

What I hear is; Toyota needs to fix their rear axle, they need to add 2 doors to the troop carrier.

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