I don't have a Toyota but I carry a lot of gear, I imagine the main incompatibility between leaf kits for different models of utes/pickups is the location of the bushes. Is there any reason why you couldn't take a couple of leafs of the same size or and stick them beneath your top leaf either on the primary or secondary? I've noticed some leaf packs have the same or almost the same length for some of the mid-leafs, can you add more leafs to this to stiffen the springs? If I were to do that would it be necessary to replace the shocks? Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
You can stack up your own leaf pack. Ypu can do this by adding more thin leaves. The problem will most pickups is the leafsprings sit on top of the axles, and adding more leafs increases rear height. If you buy an aftermarket leaf set, the curve of the springs is altered to give a uniform height. As for shocks,if the height increases, you might need longer travel shocks.
can anyone suggest how to make a hiace commuter back ride more comfortable? I was thinking of comfort shackles bat i’m just worried that front bumper will be more prone to scratches due to lifted back…
Just a tray. If you can get A leafsprings it would give you the best unloaded ride. I would go with Foam Cell shocks and either B or A front coils also.
I'm real keen on some new springs and shocks on my ln106 bit of a hunting hack wanting more comfort on the tracks but also illuminate the hilux legendary shaggy front end what would you recommend
Hello there, question for you. So I have a set of "medium" leaf packs that spec wise say +400lb/181kg constant weight. I have a 2011 double cab Tacoma that I use for work (detailing) and occasional off roading. With a fiberglass topper, 100lb invertor, and occasionally I'll have up to 50 gallons/189L of water. Should I upgrade to a heavier pack or would this be sufficient? Thanks in advance
Hi, I've got a question, installed the comfort springs from ironman. And now I've got a driveline vibration. Tried to install the centre bearing drop kit and it didn't really help much. Any advice?
This is enlightening. Thanks! Sir what rating should I use for Ford Everest 2004?? I always drive alone but loaded full with people (6 to 7) on weekends.
This is from the product page of the leaf spring NISS047B. (0-300kg) "NOTE: Leaf springs are for a heavily loaded or built vehicle. If your Xterra is stock then you will have to remove a few leafs from the leaf pack for a better ride." I cannot find any info on which leafs to remove. for no load stock vehicle. On forums people say to remove 3rd 5th and overload leaves. Could you please give your advise?
When do we use the shackles sir? Do we need to put one after adding add a lift, or we can just choice whether add a lift or shackles would do when lifting a vehicle
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Im planning to change my suspension in my pick up. But instead of add a leaf can i use comfort shackles? Does it add more weight besring capacity?
Greetings Ironman! I have an Isuzu Dmax 2023 4x2 I bought last year and I'm still using the stock leaf springs. My question is what would be a good modification with your product I can add to my Dmax? My line of business is Bigasan so I'm carrying about 20 to 30 sacks on a daily basis which weighs 25kg a sack. What I want to do is eventually is to add a canopy in the back and have more load capacity for my rice. What product of yours that you can recommend adding to my Dmax to achieve this?
If you are loaded daily i would go with Add-A-Leaf for load. It will not give a lift and will be a bit stiff unloaded but give you excellent stability at load.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Thank you so much for your quick reply! what if I wanted to go 25kg (1 sack) x 50 = 1,250kg on a daily baisis would you recommend Add-A-Leaf and Load-Plus? and perhaps having a Foam cell suspensions kit and UCA?
Nice info. My dealer got me 0 to 300 and its rough riding. My dads stock truck drives nicer. Can I remove a leaf?. It sits much higher in the hear. Dorsnt seem to lower with 150kg on jt
This is a very informative video. Sir I am new to cars and planning to buy an SUV (Montero Gen 3.5) for both family use and a little help in our small business. We usually go out once a month to pickup stuff from around 500-600 kgs, but that doesn't include passengers, so probably around 800kgs or even more. My concern is do we even need to upgrade parts like leaf springs, shocks, and suspension of the SUV given that scenario? If so, what will be the negative sides. We were originally eyeing on a Strada, however given the size of our family we also wanted one that can carry more people so we thought of Montero. Any reply sir I will greatly appreciate. Thank you and more power to your channel.
The montero runs rear coils sir. I think it will be a bit overloaded at 500 to 600 kgs. We can uprade it to carry more load, but it will be a bit stiff and tall at the rear without load.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Thank you for your response. I just realized that yes it uses coils at back, thanks for pointing that out and for correcting me sir. So basically it is possible, but will feel and look akward. I wonder if you guys have already done that to an SUV before? Is it bad for the SUV to have that? Driver/passenger wise we can adjust. Thanks sir really appreciate it.
I have a 2" lifted pickup truck with shackles at the rear. Will the ride comfort improve if I change it to ironman add a leaf? Also, can I do the ironman add leaf without removing one leaf from the stock leafspring? Thanks
Yes you can go Ironman 4x4 AddALeaf. Also, we only remove one rear thick overload (auxillary) leaf when the client wants to lower the rear a bit. Removing one doesnt improve the ride whatsoever. We will need to re-install your stock shackles though.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 But if I choose to retain the stock rear thick overload (auxillary) leaf, together with this Ironman AddALeaf, will it give me a better ride comfort overall, compared to my current lift setup with extended shackles? Thank you, sir.
Hi there buddy im from england london. I have a transit custom 2018. It can only take 779kv payload . I have a jetwash in back with water when its full im defenstly over that? Will upgraddd leaf springs fix the weight problem? Thanks
Im moving on from a montero to a hilux and im very concerned about the hard ride in the back as thats what pickups are know for.. would the A spring solve my concerns?
Sir i would like to ask for advice, i use my hiace commuter for carrying heavy loads up to 1600 kilos , is it advisable to use leaf spring of hilux in hiace commuter for better performance ?
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Im just a newbie and actually its for a 4x2. My priority is just for the floods that we are experiencing right now. Any suggestions sir? Snorkel ba muna? Or lift. Pero Im not into off-roading naman. But for sure in the future, After getting the right 4x4 I will be. Sobrang interested ako and grateful because of your informative videos. Dami kasing pera pera lang today. You know what i mean.😊 Thank you
@@healthybodyawesomelife5640 since It is a 4x2, TOY055A front and TOY017A rear is fine. Foam Cell shock front and Foam Cell Comfort rear. (Nitro front and Nitro Rear will work too). As for the snorkel it is added insurance. We have a snorkel too.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Sir, kindly forward a quote, please for both including the snorkel. A photo of the set up and the snorkel would be most appreciated. Thank you po
Sir I have a question, does the leaf spring and coil spring has a difference when it comes in riding condition? Especially in uphill condition.. does the car with coil spring will have more effort in riding than leaf spring?
Sir, I drive a 2000 GMC Safari van. I have a tool box in the back all the time that weighs about 200 lbs. My leafs are shot. They are flat or even have a slight "frown" instead of a "smile" shape. sometimes I load it up pretty heavy and I would like to even pull a trailer. This van rides TERRIBLE! super rough on the road and feels every bump. Do you think this is due to my leafs? Do you recommend a leaf for me? Any help would be super appreciated. Thank you!
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Yes I am in Arizona. Ok I will research that more. If you want to send me any info that may help me with your products please email me. PridePools@gmail.com Thanks!
@@14mtaylor sure. Let me know how wide your leafsprings are so I can see what Loadplus will work. More info here: www.ironman4x4.com/categories/load-plus
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hello sir i have a landcruiser hzj73 with the 1hd diesel 6 cylinder engine. and arb bull bar on front / fact rear bumper / what do you recomend fact ride plus 2 / again thank you
@@ironman4x4philippines20 now i still use front & rear stock bumper.. can coil spring dan leaf spring Type B give me comfort without load anything? 4x4 Ford Ranger 2017
@@thegiankarlo3 that is not a problem sir. Most of the added load is at the front. You may need stiffer springs in front. Rear is fine. My Hilux runs canopy, roofrack on canopy, awning, drawers, wings, rear bumper, fridge, all on AddALeaf.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 currently using TOY065B springs on the front, I have a steel bumper, side rails, winch and driving lights. Do I need to change to TOY065C?
@@thegiankarlo3 no need sir. What shocks are you using? I am using the same springs and with the Ironman 4x4 ProForge, I get 70mm sag and it works really well.
Can the current dmax suspension be improve further for a softer ride? This is considering we never carry much load for this vehicle other than luggages and occasional extra load.
kindly can you explain more about relationship between stiffness of ride and leaf springs...and also about that how it effect to remove some leaf for smoothness of ride? its about hilux revo...
Hi. i have a hilux and i am not loading anything on my daily drive. I had it lifted with suspension with add a leaf. question, if i replace the stock leaf spring with that A-Spring, will it make the ride smoother or comfy?
@@alvinbulawit3687 i cannot guarantee the ride quality coz the internal valving of the ridemax is unknown. If the shocks are Ironman 4x4 then we can be sure it would work as they are manufactured to work with the springs.
Usually the mistake is too stiff a coil. As a remedy they run the shocks on #1 setting, so they have no damping and you bounce around all the time. This is a common mistake here in Pinas.
Have you considered more than just your shocks and leafs? What tyres are you running? If you have lower profile tyres you will have less suspension and a stiffer ride. Tyres are part of your suspension (air/rubber spring).
@@Senkino5o good point. However, if you deflate the tires to soften them, you actually start the suspension movement at the tire and not the shock and spring. The bad thing is tires (air/rubber spring) are un-damped as they have nothing to stop them from bouncing around like a basketball. That is why softening the tire is a good thing up to a certain point, the point where they will not interfere with the shocks/spring ability to do their job. That is why offroad race trucks and rally cars run normal tire pressures, so the suspension can do its job properly.
Hye sir.. My Ranger 2.2xlt.. now i use Foam Cell Pro.. but this week i want to install Coil spring/ leaf spring /forge upper arm.. What type should i use ? Type A or Type B..
@@ironman4x4philippines20 my 4x4 Ranger never been off-road yet.. will go but just light offroad.. like family camping offroad in future but dont know when.. i like foam cell pro bcoz very comfort but now i want to install full set coil spring & Leaf spring.. very hard to choose either A or B for my 4x4 Ford Ranger 2.2xlt.. can i choose Type B suspension?
Constant 420kg but sometimes increase to 750kg and also using trailer or caravan. I want to know can I fir an proper extra leaf spring to my existing ironman 300kg
Poly is a good rotational bearing and it does not mind grease, hence the greasable shackles. This way you get less friction at the shackles. Poly is not good with flex and vibration dampening, but you dont want the shackles to flex, but you want the springs to flex. As for shocks, you have a lot of angle changes so rubber is better, plus it absorbs more vibration. Using Poly on shocks will give more side loading and bending forces the shocks causing premature seal wear.
Mejo nalilito po ako whether install a extended shackle vs add a leaf for additional lift at the rear. Sana po maka gawa kayu ng video about dito. Thanks *Hilux G 2022 owner po ako.
Good morning sir. Anu po ang maganda sa comfort shackles or add a leaf for hilux conquest? Yung unit ko sir is not for loading purposes. City driving lang siya mostly po. Salamat sir.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 Appreciate your quick response sir but I'm driving a PICK-UP Ford Ranger 2015 and I want to intentionally lower the back to level the truck. But if you are suggesting your addALeaf then I'm interested but WOULD IT DEPLETE my intention of LOWERING (EVEN) the back with the front @ the same time SOFTEN the ride when full more than 500KG of passenger load? Note: I'm using my truck for passengers BUT NOT loading heavy stuff.
No Reply when you think you cannot EXPECT SALES huh from an inquiry huh? well that's NORMAL anyways thanks. There are OTHER PRODUCT in the market anyways.
@@picolosantiago5392 no problem sir. We gave you a reply and I am sorry if you didnt understand it. REMOVING THE LEAF WITHOUT ADDING A THIN LEAF, IT WILL BE TOO SOFT AND SIT TOO LOW. I replied to you without selling you anything. I am sorry if you didnt understand it. Our addALeaf is a lift spring and if you read my reply 2 weeks ago, I never mentioned selling you the AddALeaf... I would appreciate a bit of respect... thanks.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 My post is "But if you are suggesting your addALeaf then I'm interested but WOULD IT DEPLETE my intention of LOWERING (EVEN) the back with the front @ the same time SOFTEN the ride when full more than 500KG of passenger load? Note: I'm using my truck for passengers BUT NOT loading heavy stuff." with a BIG question mark, I fully understand what you are saying with that said...I rest my case.
Hello sir. For my 2020 Strada GLS 4x2 Nagbabalak napo ako ipa 2 inch lift ang Pick up ko ano Po Ang set up Ang kailangan? Or gamit? gusto ko Po Sana ung medyo nakataas ng konti sa rear . hingi Po Ako ng advice kung anong bibilin ko salamat Po godbless
All springs. A, B, C, or D. The load rating on the springs (comfort, no load, with load, heavy load, or whatever people call it) is ONLY about accessory load, not total load. Accessory load meaning things you cannot remove from the car. BUT all the springs will and are designed to load up to Gross Vehicle Weight rating of the car manuracturer, in the case of most pickups, 1 ton.
Hello where can I buy and have it installed for my ford ranger. I always carry a lot of load because of the nature of my business. If I can get a D spring and a load plus if possible sana where po? And how much?
@@iamLiam053022 D springs cant solve that sir. 1.5 to 2 tons is so far above your vehicles rating that we might break axles or spindles, or the chassis.
@@ironman4x4philippines20 I agree po. But in the future na I just carry about the same weight of my gvwr hindi na siya masyado baba and mas maganda ang ride and hindi siya unstable feel sa turns and bumps
@@iamLiam053022 the load rating on the springs refer to unloaded weight. If you carry GVW, let me know the vehicles setup so we can find the right spring.
@@dbang8799 same lang lift nila sir. But lets say yung sasakyan is the same weight, mataas kunti ang B kasi it was designed for a heavier accessory load... ako I like A better. Now ano po yung naka kabit sa likod ng Hilix nyo po?
@@ironman4x4philippines20 yung toplift lang po lagi po kasi kinakargahan. Gusto ko sana kahit mag 2inches yung lift nya para pwde pa din minsan mag trail po
@@ironman4x4philippines20 planning to change my leafspring kc Sir, medyo saggy na leftside ng sasakyan. minsan lng naman aq kumakarga ng mga bagay sa likod. anu po ang mas magandang ma e papayo nyo Sir?
