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Leaked DA letter reveals lack of trust - Mongae 

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President Cyril Ramaphosa's office says he's expected to finalise cabinet appointments soon. He's said to be still consulting with partners in the Government of National Unity, but a leaked DA letter has set the cat amongst the pigeons, as it has revealed the alleged cabinet positions the party wants to occupy.
Data analyst at Good Governance Africa, Mmabatho Mongae unpacks some of the optics being projected by the leaked letters and other utterances attributed to party leaders on social media.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.

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@Itssophie277
@Itssophie277 3 месяца назад
The rand can drop we are tired we want land back
@phetogomooka2072
@phetogomooka2072 3 месяца назад
22% OF 30 = 6.6 you can make the DA to have 6 portfolios
@shelby6
@shelby6 3 месяца назад
7, you round up with the .6
@MBReader410
@MBReader410 3 месяца назад
11 posts is completely reasonable.
@mthobisizondi2410
@mthobisizondi2410 3 месяца назад
Just imagine if the ANC invites the EFF and MK then DA withdraws what then? but before we get there, the DA got 22% and if there are 30 posts then DA should be getting 7 (6,6) posts if proportionated according to votes acquired,
@lesego6144
@lesego6144 3 месяца назад
if you take the proportion of the vote only 6 positions is reasonable and less if you consider continuity
@lesego6144
@lesego6144 3 месяца назад
@@mthobisizondi2410 they will always be entitled to what they haven't earned. reason they always grossly over estimating their "'expertise" and "'competence"'
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 3 месяца назад
@@mthobisizondi2410 Are you saying that EFF and MK should also get seats even though they have chosen to stay out of the GNU ? The GNU consists of about 69% of the vote so DA should get 31% of seats by that proportion.
@mthobisizondi2410
@mthobisizondi2410 3 месяца назад
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub I am saying GNU should be inclusive However if there are parties that choose to stay out it their democratic rights to do so, GNU is a corporation among all signatories and thus administrative responsibilities such as the Ministry and positions in the council of Parliament should be discussed in a professional manner not this thing of DA having their own self interested demands tell me what if P.A, ActionSA, IFP, etc also demand a certain posts the DA mentioned on their letter they leaked purposely? It’s a disaster (I don’t EFF was the most unreasonable party. I was wrong) Concurrently I would say DA, EFF, PA, UDM, FF+, etc should’ve tried to form GNU and exclude the ANC cause it has failed us dismally but all these parties couldn’t do it coz they have egos and care more about their party’s interests, today and age require selfless leadership who will have to compromise their interests for the betterment of the nation
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 3 месяца назад
DA for Finance, Home Affairs, Police, Health, Mining,
@someguy007
@someguy007 3 месяца назад
and jobs
@sandrabrandt4632
@sandrabrandt4632 3 месяца назад
The DA is dead rite I agree
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 3 месяца назад
Matric Domkop John Steenhuisen fucked up Big Time !!!
@swm496
@swm496 3 месяца назад
DA Must Leave The GNU, Let ANC Fail Miserably With, MK And EFF...., ANC Is Forever Sliding And Slipping, Downwards And Fatality
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 3 месяца назад
110% agree,only trouble is theyll stuff things up so bad, our riders,dams and sea will be poisoned, municipalities will be worse than they are, filth everywhere, no water, chaos ,mayhem, itll cost so much more to one day fix, w cape is the example,with track record.
@lovelife4u
@lovelife4u 3 месяца назад
The DA should chill. It's not like they've unseated the ANC, they haven't grown in size at all. MK brought the ANC below 50%. We can't have a 20% party, which represents 10% of the population, demanding important positions.
@imotumbokanaka4157
@imotumbokanaka4157 3 месяца назад
all those carde DG deployment must go
@ambrosepadayachy459
@ambrosepadayachy459 3 месяца назад
The DA is on the right path. Their record is clean. We need leaders who are whesome men of integrity.
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 3 месяца назад
DA = demonic alliance
@suprememonokeng8011
@suprememonokeng8011 3 месяца назад
Not in Tswane
@mthobisizondi2410
@mthobisizondi2410 3 месяца назад
Oh please DA is clean, isn't it accused of taking money from city of Cape Town Metro to fund Israel, didn't DA sack Ghaleb cause he showed remorse for what happening to the people of Palestine, etc. You know I don't mind the DA in government but they shouldn't come close to Foreign affairs, Trade and Industry, Finance, The DA literally asked the US to sanction the country over allegations that we gave weapons to Russia, they didn't even wait for the inquiry they just jumped into attacking mode, I mean what kind of a politician who ask for foreign countries to sanction it own country, Personally the DA has showed us many times that it not about the interests of the majority of people (black people, Africans in particular) unfortunately the ANC doesn't care about either.
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 3 месяца назад
So...Liar Matric Domkop John Steenhuisen is in your eyes Honourable ??? 😂😂😂 He is on record where he said more than once the the DA will never form a Coalition with Corrupt ANC...Then he did the opposite !!!
@Sp8e
@Sp8e 3 месяца назад
you just invented a new meaning of clean. So revolutionary... clap clap clap
@maurchesnyman3955
@maurchesnyman3955 3 месяца назад
Who is leaking these documents? Why is the media so hungry for something to put on. Is this verified or do you just broadcast it?
@floatpoint1050
@floatpoint1050 3 месяца назад
The old quote: "the rotten apple spoils his companion."
@christopherbuckley619
@christopherbuckley619 3 месяца назад
ANC has messed up and needs.competent people to assist to fix the ANC mess up. There are very few competent ANC ministers currenrtly
@comancheflyer4903
@comancheflyer4903 3 месяца назад
Politics is not for the people, it's self interest period.
@Aurora-light01
@Aurora-light01 3 месяца назад
The DA has the majority amongst the other parties that joined in the GNU so not sure why people are so upset with them asking for positions if the DA and VF plus leaves then the GNU does not have 51% to form government again. So then we are back to square 1
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 3 месяца назад
No other options?
@thobileqacha3229
@thobileqacha3229 3 месяца назад
Revote that's all we want. No Europeans will rule in Africa.
@renierlindeque9387
@renierlindeque9387 3 месяца назад
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105not any good ones
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 3 месяца назад
@@renierlindeque9387 according to?
@erickumalo2372
@erickumalo2372 3 месяца назад
Let this nonsense dismantle and let's vote again
@JeshuaOurGod
@JeshuaOurGod 3 месяца назад
No need
@omethanaidoo7515
@omethanaidoo7515 3 месяца назад
People that did not vote...do not have a say The 58% that took the time off and put South Africa first..stood in long lines to vote...so each party should represent the no of people that voted for them in the Cabinet So ANC wants to reduce the Cabinet seats to accomodate the other parties.Is the ANC reducing their seats as well?.I dont think so. The ANC wants its cake and eat it at the same time. DA must sacrifice the 3.5 million voters to accomadate the ANC. DA would not be able to change the crooked ANC Government with 3 cabinet seats.There will be no watch dog in the Cabinet.ANC will do as it please So DA...please stick to ur guns...dont give in...we have suffered enough under the ANC rule If this GNU is not working...then DA must step away...be the opposition...the watch dogs for the people of South Africa
@ambrosepadayachy459
@ambrosepadayachy459 3 месяца назад
The real issue is, they want all power. ANC, MK, EFF, and all others. They're power hungry, and not concerned about South africa and her people.
@CanothinMlimo
@CanothinMlimo 3 месяца назад
Never bad mouth other political parties if you don't like them,because we also don't like the DA. As they are racist and work for the whites interests only.
@mandymkhwanazi1763
@mandymkhwanazi1763 3 месяца назад
And the DA isn't power-hungry? The letters with 1000 demands say otherwise.
@silaskhalishwayo
@silaskhalishwayo 3 месяца назад
​@mandymkhwanazi1763 this one is crazy 😂😂😂all the things he said spells DA😂
@Josephalive101
@Josephalive101 3 месяца назад
Those who think the GNU will fail, are going to be shocked.
@mthobisizondi2410
@mthobisizondi2410 3 месяца назад
I really want to be shocked as well, because I really do not have high hopes, these DA demands are disappointing and showing party politics before the nation
@supermanonemillion7222
@supermanonemillion7222 3 месяца назад
*DA cannot change different departments for the better in the country if ANC do not acknowledge them to take positions to do so*
@barendinadrotsky
@barendinadrotsky 3 месяца назад
Sorry, Ramaphosa is not trustworthy, you can see that in all his previous promises toward the public of SA that never happened.
@trudyneumann8945
@trudyneumann8945 3 месяца назад
And the rand value drops again. Dont trust that the ANC will do the right thing for our country.😢
@rosemarymthembu4393
@rosemarymthembu4393 3 месяца назад
The rand only for the rich we don't care about the Rand for now we not going to be hold hostage because of the rand
@trudyneumann8945
@trudyneumann8945 3 месяца назад
@@rosemarymthembu4393 - you should care as if affect all the imports and exports. We, the consumer, end up paying higher prices for all the basics we need. I'd say the rich dont worry as they can pay.
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 3 месяца назад
​@@rosemarymthembu4393the poor are the ones feeling the pinch
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 3 месяца назад
​@@trudyneumann8945don't mind em. That's MK blind follower
@Hb452h56d
@Hb452h56d 3 месяца назад
Better for exports😅
@User-.-_007-s
@User-.-_007-s 3 месяца назад
The cadre deployed dg's must go every minister must have his or hers chosen people
@davidmasupa7642
@davidmasupa7642 3 месяца назад
His or her chosen ministers =Cader deployment period. Replacing cader deployment with cader deployment. 😂😂😂 some people 😊
@albanyjerry
@albanyjerry 3 месяца назад
Is that how you do in your country ORANIA, if it works for you enjoy it but we south african, sons of the soil. Care less about your orania.
@nhlanhlagumede376
@nhlanhlagumede376 3 месяца назад
National Party turned to.new national party now DA why they are acting like new thing
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft 3 месяца назад
No...the national party now is VF+....the old prog party who fought apartheid...helen suzzman..tony leon...hellen zille..remember??..the old prog party is now the DA..
@InJouHande
@InJouHande 3 месяца назад
NP merged with the ANC, the DA is the DP, not the NP.
@Sp8e
@Sp8e 3 месяца назад
Didn't they are say they are not into this for minesterial positions? You can never trusty what the DA says, never. Black parties should never go into any deal with the DA. Greed, selfishnesss and arrogance. The PA and Action SA knows this but they are very forgiving to it.
@CedricAckermann-k2c
@CedricAckermann-k2c 3 месяца назад
Sickening that someone like Mbalula is even involved in these negotiations. Helen however will wipe the floor with this not so sharp individual
@JeshuaOurGod
@JeshuaOurGod 3 месяца назад
Fikile M is a repulsive ANC cadre clinging to.power like a piece of bubblegum to a blanket
@CapeTownNick
@CapeTownNick 3 месяца назад
DA just bring about a vote of no confidence into RAMA. show the ANC they arent that strong. MK will vote yes to impeach and DA can vote yes, EFF is a bit of 50/50 but it will scare the ANC enough to maybe realize they need to be fair with positions
@CodeSleeper
@CodeSleeper 3 месяца назад
Damn, you're slow... you really are slow... Ramaphala-phala's exit is a DA, FF+ exit and the ascendance of Vice Pres Paul Mashathile aswell as the reunification of the ANC and its break away Parties... So, just keep doing what you do best... Divide and Conqure... Thats the only way you get into National Gov, Thats why the media is on your side... wonder why JJ Thabane got suspended @ENCA. Boi are you slow.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 3 месяца назад
I agree capenick! If we play this right we might even end up with a DA president.
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 3 месяца назад
we will NEVER have white racists in power. Never! The country can burn before that happens.
@thobileqacha3229
@thobileqacha3229 3 месяца назад
​@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105you fooling yourself. This is Africa not West.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 3 месяца назад
@@thobileqacha3229 as the DA, we believe we have the right to rule over you even if you don't like it.
@Mantaray911
@Mantaray911 3 месяца назад
DA must DEMAND all of these positions! Our leader the Honourable John Steenhuisen must be President immediately! The DA can impeach that Cyril guy and send him to prison. Viva Madam Helen viva! Viva President Steenhuisen viva! Viva DA viva!
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 3 месяца назад
😂😂This is not an appropriate forum to notate ones 🛀 dreams.
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 3 месяца назад
Your leader is a moron with no matric certificate to be found
@sphamgabi7990
@sphamgabi7990 3 месяца назад
Dubul'inyanga! 🌒🔫
@thobileqacha3229
@thobileqacha3229 3 месяца назад
Sophisticated coup!! When Re you going back to West. This Is Africa. Ridiculous!!
@mamajmas2508
@mamajmas2508 3 месяца назад
And what was voting for?
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 3 месяца назад
The letter is of public interesting
@JeshuaOurGod
@JeshuaOurGod 3 месяца назад
Zille wont back down,especially in the face of a failed ANC government...DA deserves a fair chance to govern or at least have leaders in top ministerial positions- for the sake of our country, but also to make the ANC look good. GOD HELP US!
@eloisnaraidoo7339
@eloisnaraidoo7339 3 месяца назад
We are seeing some miss steps in the DANC, soon we are going to see the couple fall over each other. But don't worry lol, EFF and MK are a government in waiting Patiently. Zuma is a master#genius he knew this was going to happen.
@tsholomoloto7788
@tsholomoloto7788 3 месяца назад
ANC must humble themselves not DA. analysts must stop to badmouth DA. exactly it is long because it is on paper. put people in front of you not list. its not a demand it is the right thing to do. Mam do not forget that the president wanted to change the business at usual. MSA media stop confusing us with the people you interview they are always biased. Where do you get these analysts??
@ShawnRademeyer
@ShawnRademeyer 3 месяца назад
You don't vote, you don't get to make decisions or complain.
@michaelbotha5650
@michaelbotha5650 3 месяца назад
ANC want to rule with 40%. They need to allocate ministries through proportional representation. That means take the 30 ministries and split the proportional amongst the GNU members. And those ministers appointed must be allowed to run those ministries within the agreed focus of the GNU. They must be allowed to select their DG’s and clean up their portfolios for the benefit of the country. Does the ANC still think they are a 60% party.
@2xkilo2920
@2xkilo2920 3 месяца назад
Anc was warned aspecially Mbalula he didn’t listede
@mpumisicatsha6416
@mpumisicatsha6416 3 месяца назад
We warned the anc about DA, now the is playing hardball now 😅 remove the president, change section 25 of the constitution n give us the Finance minister n we might just listen n Drop the DA n FF+
@ambrosepadayachy459
@ambrosepadayachy459 3 месяца назад
The DA is dead right. ANC must go with MK and all thieves. Let me warn you. You know nothing.
@Aurora-light01
@Aurora-light01 3 месяца назад
LOL if the DA and FF+ leaves then the GNU is under 51% and government can't form again and we will be back to square 1
@thobileqacha3229
@thobileqacha3229 3 месяца назад
​@@ambrosepadayachy459I warn as well this is India this is Africa. They must go and make these demands in Europe.
@ViviMogale
@ViviMogale 3 месяца назад
Ramaphosa hei s still the president Helen zila she is too much
@MBReader410
@MBReader410 3 месяца назад
Very wierd maths being done here.
@shannonnaicker4040
@shannonnaicker4040 3 месяца назад
I don't agree with 2 in 10....it's actually 2 in 7 as only 70% of the total is part of the GNU. Come on
@angelabaxter6298
@angelabaxter6298 3 месяца назад
The DA do not have to ' humble' itself.
@Itssophie277
@Itssophie277 3 месяца назад
Phalaphala
@grootbaas9104
@grootbaas9104 3 месяца назад
Any coalition would of been the same. If ANC EFF and MK came together you think EFF will not ask for Finance Minister position? And the ANC wont want to give them that position.
@maxmax2678
@maxmax2678 3 месяца назад
The DA, which is the remnant of the old evil apartheid regime, and any other parties that will not address the major issues in the country such as SA's land and natural resources that are in the hand of the tiny minority colonial settlers are definitely not the substitute for the ANC if indigenous South Africans want a better life.
@samanthaholm9634
@samanthaholm9634 3 месяца назад
PLEASE DONT SPEAK WHEN YOU ARE SO IGNORANT. ITS EMBARRASSING.
@JeshuaOurGod
@JeshuaOurGod 3 месяца назад
Keep blaming Apartheid for your obvious lack of sympathy and that chip on your shoulder!!
@Kudu-GreyGhost
@Kudu-GreyGhost 3 месяца назад
Can i borrow money from someone to immegrate?
@SoultyBoiBeats
@SoultyBoiBeats 3 месяца назад
Where to?
@Kudu-GreyGhost
@Kudu-GreyGhost 3 месяца назад
@@SoultyBoiBeats I'm white. So outside of Africa
@Itssophie277
@Itssophie277 3 месяца назад
PA FOR POLICE MINISTRY
@coach4286
@coach4286 3 месяца назад
The so called statement of intent is not law, law is the constitution of South Africa and its supreme law and also clear on how the President can constitute a cabinet, consultations are necessary but not a requirement as a matter of law.
@nelsongeieb581
@nelsongeieb581 3 месяца назад
ANC 159 DA 87 Total 70 x 400 =280seat DA=87/280= 31% ANC 158=59% MEANING= X CABINET SEAT*31=DA CABINET MEMBER + Vice president
@Macedonia270
@Macedonia270 3 месяца назад
"Good governance AFRICA"???? 🤣😅😂😅😆
@selloc7433
@selloc7433 3 месяца назад
For me once again Ramaphosa as the majority holder here lacks leadership He should have just stuck with the DA and IFP and kept it like that and started running the government I think by trying to bring on every single party is to highlight how too many cooks spoil the broth From the DA side I worry about the arrogance of Zille Really our county needs mature leadership here and a genuine commitment to forge a plan that will work for the country Every party can’t have everything contained in its manifesto By bringing in so many small parties we are just been delayed cos they want to punch higher then there small insignificant numbers Ramaphosa is just an indecisive individual God I pray that they get this right for our beautiful country Each has to realise that they need each other Maturity and humility is so needed now
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft 3 месяца назад
The saying that helen zille is arrogant came from the media...one excample showing her arrogant.?? The DA rule successfully because they are strick..zero tollerance toward corruption..and those who dont like that...propoganda against helen...she is not arrogant...its either wrong or right...nothing in between...she choose to do the right thing...not the wrong thing...and her sucess is showing..
@selloc7433
@selloc7433 3 месяца назад
@@Phillip-oo2ft She has being known to be arrogant Was not just drawing on this interview The point been that it’s not about one party thinking they have all the answers There has to be maturity and humility for this to work
@Itssophie277
@Itssophie277 3 месяца назад
DA can go
@Babazulu
@Babazulu 3 месяца назад
I’m so disappointed in Africans. So naive to allow this situation where this European party is going into government
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft 3 месяца назад
No...its not european party...please educate yourselves...the only multiracial party...all our people going forward under our black brown indier white councillers...they are the ones who causes DA to be successfull...WORKING TOGETHER
@fanamlawuli6761
@fanamlawuli6761 3 месяца назад
​@@Phillip-oo2ftthe DA is a European party with a few coconut here and there
@Babazulu
@Babazulu 3 месяца назад
@@Phillip-oo2ft European party
@nondyebolutweyi5989
@nondyebolutweyi5989 3 месяца назад
Foreigners nationals must learn to keep quiet in South Africa politics. South Africa is a rainbow nation. Foreigners must stop being racist. These people you call Europeans you are working for them in South Africa , European and USA stop being a racist ,
@nondyebolutweyi5989
@nondyebolutweyi5989 3 месяца назад
Foreigners nationals must learn to keep quiet in South Africa politics. What is happening South Africa it's not their businesses and stop being racist. The People you call Europeans are the one who put food on your table. Your brothers and sisters are working for these people you call Europeans. You must stop this division want to bring in this country. South Africa is a rainbow nation and there is nothing you can do about it.
@brevardporter8465
@brevardporter8465 3 месяца назад
What do you think about the moral perspective
@Codydoggy
@Codydoggy 3 месяца назад
Leaked??🤔
@DragonReaper1998
@DragonReaper1998 3 месяца назад
Yeah but who would trust the ANC really? 😂
@mamajmas2508
@mamajmas2508 3 месяца назад
I don't trust them, they don't even trust one another
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 3 месяца назад
ANC is trusted by poor, ignorant, uneducated people
@joecruiser
@joecruiser 3 месяца назад
Feeding troughs being reposessed? 😂
@ntetesemela9345
@ntetesemela9345 3 месяца назад
Please not for Home affairs. 🛐🇿🇦
@Aurora-light01
@Aurora-light01 3 месяца назад
Also kinda funny that the EFF and MK want Ramaphosa gone so they will keep making outrages demands if the GNU fails. So this is really a stale mate ANC will have to learn to share
@2xkilo2920
@2xkilo2920 3 месяца назад
Call free education,expropriation of land without compensation nationalisation of mines party u give EFF that they signed
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft 3 месяца назад
An idiot...pay back the vbs bank money ...the gogos money...disgrace...to steal from the poor...
@tapiwakatandi6763
@tapiwakatandi6763 3 месяца назад
ANC has to wake up that they are now in a coalition
@ambrosepadayachy459
@ambrosepadayachy459 3 месяца назад
They're so 'wake up' that they list support. They must get right out.
@NoluJezile
@NoluJezile 3 месяца назад
President Ramaphosa rescued this ANC captured by Mafias and the Guptas
@morrisngubane
@morrisngubane 3 месяца назад
He is the number 1 Criminal Phalaphala Saga?
@nhlanhlagumede376
@nhlanhlagumede376 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂 22% iphupho
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft 3 месяца назад
39.8%..down from 56%..now thats bad
@TembekaNtsokota
@TembekaNtsokota 3 месяца назад
Yoh is look like a movie
@RazoMarazo
@RazoMarazo 3 месяца назад
Why can't read all the demands DA want read it in public ?
@Itssophie277
@Itssophie277 3 месяца назад
They can still form GNU without the DA
@Phiwe-b6y
@Phiwe-b6y 3 месяца назад
Government of national negotiations 😂😂😂😂
@2xkilo2920
@2xkilo2920 3 месяца назад
Ramaphosa is not good in leadership he is there to serve the establishment
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft 3 месяца назад
Brainwashed
@siphongxongo8589
@siphongxongo8589 3 месяца назад
Wanya ANC
@siphongxongo8589
@siphongxongo8589 3 месяца назад
ANC is in deep shit
@Itssophie277
@Itssophie277 3 месяца назад
DA deserves nothing
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