Leaked Nijisanji Contract Reveals The Truth… | EX-Nijisanji Talent Speaks Out 

@@doesnotcompute6078- But that’s how it appears.

​@@doesnotcompute6078 mind you japan has other laws. theres a reason why black companies thrive that well in japan.

thats not bad. thats a whole ass cotton picking contract

No wonders nux wanted to share that thing, but stopped because he promised.

Nijisanji: Zero responsibility. Holds all the power by contract. V-tuber: All responsibility. Zero power if Nijisanji decides to. It _is_ absolutely horrible. I think I'm not alone when I say I would NEVER sign a contract like that. It's not only questionable, it's a HUGE WAVING red flag. BUT, I understand someone who really wants to get their foot in the door of a (seemingly) professional company in a field they really want to invest their future into. It's predatory by forcing talents to sign a contract basically saying "if you don't sign it now then forget it".

its all the way down to titanic

because it's sinking so low it's reaching earth nucleus

That sinking only applies to EN though

Oceangate quality yacht

​@@endarion88172hell's nucleus*

Do you know how much it would cost to have a lawyer just look at the contract?

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 Less than it will cost you if you do sign it.

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 Depends on the lawyer, but it'd be well worth the cost to have a professional legal opinion on how enforceable a contract is in your country/jursidiction.

@@raeoverhere923 i was looking for a specific range of cost 😢

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 Usually a couple hundred dollars and hour.

Or just not give them any time at all to actually read it.

My other theory could have been maybe because they had friends in it, and so they likely thought joining them in this company would be great It could also be possible that there is favoritism in such a way that only the favored talents get a better contract and a better pay and etc

You forget option C: alot of these livers truth be told are either nobodies or just plain out under the radar let's not forget despite them being such a bad company with such a slave contract, they are still known and have a following back then, hence just like hololive or famous vtubers agency being a liver for them and debutting is always at the bare minimum better than going indie most of the time because, they get a huge following regardless as long as they're part of the agency, im not saying being indie is bad but truth be told despite some of the livers knowing how bad or bullsht the contract is, they would never have had the huge following they had at the short or same time they went live as when they went as an indie instead of under said agency.

There are some people who don't even bother to read them before signing either due to FOMO or thinking that they already know the risk/reward analysis and therefore don't need to bother reading it.

appearently they only give you 1 hour a fucking single hour to read all that shit before sign or else you're rejected

And they barely even help paid for it

So let's say you get a better graphics card, a new iPhone for the tracking software, splurge on asmr microphones etc, pay for all of them out of your own pocket because what's gonna 1k do if that barely covers a phone for example, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK ONCE YOU GRADUATE?!

There's a reason why Doki had to use 5 year old PC to redebut...

No wonder Doki had to ask for a new tablet and donations back in January

Sounds downright Satanic. You’re basically selling your soul to the devil

holo vs niji is the best example of quality vs quantity i've seen in a long time

so basically slave labour in nijisanji?

@@kei9611 Even slaves got more from their owners...

@@esavvysavokiii1277 It has been like that for a long time when kurosanji started spamming new talent debuts & nijifags just kept inhaling copium. Too many debuts means that the talents are cannibalizing each other's viewers. But who cares about talents when the evil black company can make money right? Riku is basically playing Palworld irl.

@@kei9611 Slaves are at least given the proper tools to do their work. It at least guarantees you a home and food on the table. The only reason why you’d want to work for kurosanji over being a slave, is that you still get to earn your own money and keep most of your freedoms outside of your work. Then again, literally every other jobs also provide this, with 100x better conditions.

Poor Millie

​@@kyotanaka920 Lmfao, that comment reminded me of her too. She not only scolded her viewers but also searched for the definition of a black company to "prove" that it wasn't the case for nijisanji 🤦🏻‍♀️

@@kyotanaka920 Poor? Nah she and her allies are dragging everybody else down with them. I have no respect or compassion for bootlickers like her. I feel sorry for the people she most likely manipulates and put pressure on to comply and "be grateful".

@@kyotanaka920 Isn't she supposedly part of the clique, or am I missing a joke as a non-Niji watcher?

@@OnionKnightRises That comment mean Millie is in full copium since she refute the black company stuff, poorly both in timing and execution.

She even alluded that if the bullet points (the dirty laundry list from her termination notice) were removed she might have signed it but Niji wouldn't so there was no benefit for her signing that crap, they already made up their minds on ruining her reputation either way.

@@EkatariZeen And that's another thing that's crazy to me, cause say if she did signed it, would she still have received the harsh words she got when her termination was announced? I say maybe, because that all depends on Kotoka, Hex, Finana, if i missed anyone else let me know, because they mentioned her attitude and stuff. So, in a sense like you said, it's kind of their fault she received so many harsh words when her termination was announced

It was a veiled threat. "It would be good for your future to sign it" -- just picture an old Italian guy saying the words and it's literal mafia stuff.

@@StochasticUniverse Even before LM got to the part about "we are not a criminal org" I was already convinced the contract was written by the yakuza by how bad it was.

Sayu is the liver who was Zaion Lanza, who said that she "liked little boys" hence why she was terminated.

If fuwamoco was in nijisanji the amount of anger I would have.

I know really that mika is in a so much better place

painful to know my oshi is still there..

true - If Lily was here, I'd be one of the first people crusading against their management

another reminder why no one should join this black company after seeing how terribly they treat their talents

Nah at this point they got the whole excavator 😂

Pretty sure they'd have one those massive laser drills that peaple use for oil... Exectp they want to reach the earths core.

Soon they'll reach the Earth's core, so they are already developping new methods to dig more in the 4th dimension.

I once read a comment along the lines of "said person has hit rock bottom and has began showing signs of digging"

At this point is a tunnel boring machine.

Plus the shear amount of vtubers they put out. They have like 2-3 times hololive’s number of talents despite both starting around the same-ish time.

Share price is primarily controlled by miscellaneous market factors, like the number of shares outstanding and how willing the public has been to run up the price. So, just because one stock has a higher price than nother doesn't mean anything by itself. The PE ratio (price/earnings) is an important fundamental indicator. It takes the price of the stock and divides it by its earnings. A lower number is better; if means the stock is not overvalued/run up by as much. So, for example, much is made of Niji being a "billion-dollar company". This is the total market cap of all shares outstanding for the company, NOT the actual amount of money the company has in its personal coffers. The total value of all Nijisanji shares is worth way over a billion dollars, but Nijisanji only made about $66 million in total revenue last year (and that was before expenses were subtracted, so in profit terms, it was significantly less than that). *Perception* : Nijisanji has billions of dollars. *Reality* : they only have tens of millions of dollars, a difference of multiple orders of magnitude. (For what it's worth, Cover's stock is materially more overvalued than Anycolor's, at this point. The PE ratio of Cover is a whopping 44, which is...really aggressive and probably not sustainable. Nijisanji's is down to 26 in the wake of its recent decline, which is still elevated but not as acutely elevated. Cover is at risk of correction on any given day, though.)

Are u sure it's 50% not 5%? 😂

@@BeforeON3 It's 50% - but only for that where there isn't a separate contract. In the end the 50% are only the super chats, everything else is most likely much lower.

@@acmenipponair ​ @BeforeON3 Anycolor takes 50% of superchats and membership, we know they take 98% from merchandise as well, as that was leaked in the past. To think that they take less on anything doesn't line up with what is in that contract and what we know of their past dealings.

It's a wonder, how this black company grow and expand to EN

if nijisanji tried to claim that they know courts would happen. its basically an empty threat.

​@@129dasThat's the thing it is an intimidation tactic. Instead of providing support they are bullying you with an illegal contract.

@@129dasBut here's the thing: did Selen know that, in that moment? Or did she just look up and be like, "Holy fuck, it's all over over. I have nothing left, it's all gone. Time to reach for the rope."

​@@129dasBut here's the thing: did _Selen_ know that, in that moment? Or was she an isolated, young woman with a billion dollar corporation leaning on her making outlandish, life-destroying threats? Because honestly, if it's true that Nijisanji "knew" that it's an empty threat, the fact that they exploited a power incongruity between themselves a 20-something employee to try to browbeat the employee actually makes the overall situation look worse for Niji, not better. They make extreme, empty threats that Selen takes seriously, and then she tries to end it all because she thinks she's staring down the barrel of total life-collapse? God damn, dude.

@@129dasWith what money would Doki litigate the case? Being sued by a billion-dollar company is never an empty threat when you're just a kid with minimal resources. Selen/Doki would need a GoFundMe just to hire a lawyer, heh.

Someone buy Uki a pair of knee pads

Im gonna play devil's advocate here: It's only banned to go after third parties. And former members technically count as a seccond party. They are connected, just not as directly. But Uki still being around has no excuses. I can't think of any logical counter argument.

​@@Swagpionhis still in there because the company now have a reasonable leash of him, a thick and thight one nonetheless

@@Swagpion then still Uki would have to be terminated, because he is talking about third parties when he is racist against whites, as he isn't white and the company owner also not.

The worst part of it is that you don't have the liberty to just leave when you want. They can hold your entire Vtubing career, inside Niji or outside, hostage indefinitely. If someone falls into the camp that they got into being a Vtuber because they don't want to show their face, that's crippling. It means they have no feasible way to stream at all without doing a face reveal, and for some people that's a non-option.

@@StochasticUniverse I think the contract mentioned that you can’t stream for third parties after leaving. Meaning you can become an indie afterwards, as long as you don’t join a organisation. However like legal mindset said, they can’t realistically enforce this. Which might be why Nina and Mysta have joined an other org. Also if they were to try and enforce this it would provoke a very negative reaction from the public. Because they’d also would/could go after Luna in Hololive which even the Japanese audience wouldn’t accept. If that is what you’re referring to.

@@StochasticUniversejust wanna correct ya a little here, it only applies for six months … still absolutely shit and doesn’t change the point your making all that much considering… literally everything else in that “contract”

Oh there black company ways will last in Japan for a while but on the en side nijisanji en will be no more in about a year.

You'd be surprised how much NDF they are and will die on the Hill simply cuz they hate Hololive and Vshojo and don't care about Indies.

​@@kinglightning5256 we should never forget what they have done

They will never again be what they once were. That is dead. Some form of vestigial, stunted zombie company will linger on, but Niji as a legit rival to Hololive is just dead and buried now.

got to remember the japan side is still liked/loved. they are going to take a dip but how much? yea they have lost alot but controversies come and go. i to bet the EN side will go away but they will bounce back cause people forget. hell if they shut up when all this started Wactor almost took over the headlines for them.

I predict 20-40 years in the future we're going to see a documentary all about this.

Think of yourself as a new and unknown vtuber. You'd sign it.

While I agree that this contract presented (allegedly the same as vtubers sign), is clearly not the best idea imo, you also have to remeber that despite everything, does give you one thing. Viewership/fanbase from the get go. Yes every talent there deserves that folowing as entertainers, because its not easy to get into agencies of that size, and they all are entartaining to their respective audiences, but it is still a valid profit. You can be a talented content creator, or simply a very entertaining person but not be able to gain a following. Wheter its your ability to make thumbnails, hit good timezone, or just get lucky with algorithm, following is not easy to get if you dont have a good idea of innerworkings of the platform. That contract gives you that. Its up to an individual to determine if that aspect or any other possitive (some ppl enjoy corpo enviroment, its not always bad. also immidiate ability to work with other ppl in the same sphere may also sound good) balances out negatives. But there is also a fact that ppl also make mistakes. Not vibing with work in corpo or not getting a fully clear picture of what contract entails happens all the time. Ppl also have different backgrounds that factor into these. Many are very comforable in corpo enviroment and are satisfied with their workplace in Niji. Nothing wrong with that. If someone were to follow all of the guildlines perfectly and be fully comfortable and satified with the content they make that way, they will have an amazing time there, no doubt. But their punishments, amount of controll they have over you if you step out of the line and the amount of payment not being guaranteed in any capacity is very predatory. Im not trying to justify Niji by any means. I just give my take on why would someone sign it in the first place.

It's a lot of gaslighting to make u think that's the norm add on that very successful vtubers in the industry and your oshis probably signed the same contract before U. Ud probably think it was okay since they signed it as well. And it's pressure of it being the last step, U made it through all the interviews, u made it so far, all U have to do now is to sign the papers.

The exposure alone is worth it. Build a fan base and then leave as an indie seems to be a great plan.

@@TallulahSoie Only for the desperate and naive enough to sign and lose money, this explains why Doki wasted 200k last year is literally rigged for them to take big cuts of any earnings you make and keep leeching your money, you have to pay and manage every expense like comissions and if you screw up enough to get suspended they take 50% of every earnings in 6 months of work all of that and they are not obligated to support you in anyway.

2% from merch sales. There's a reason why some of the jokes about Nijisanji is that their talents are: -paid in exposure -get only 2% from merch -have NO salary -don't even keep their accolades personally

It isn't just no minimum basic salary. With them basically saying "You will use your money to buy stuff to use for streaming and those will be OUR stuff so you have to give them back to us when you quit/fired", you actually losing money paying niji to screw your life. How the fuck someone manage to have negative income without considering expense from somewhere else.

Nijisanji wants to uphold the view that their talents aren't employees, but only contractors, while at the same time restricting them so much and dictating their activities in a way that's fundamentally incompatible with that view.

Whoever leaked it is, yeah. But this contract isn't all that different from American ones in reality. Legal Mindset might know generally about contract law in the US, but that doesn't mean he ever actually did anything with it in the real world. The whole thing is full of "if vtuber does thing against contract or to make Niji look bad, it's vtuber's fault" but that's getting interpreted as "Niji doesn't support their livers when those livers violate their contract and this makes Niji a black company". They're a black company for having the shitty work conditions and the inability to leave properly, not for how they wrote up a standard contract.

@@FroggerbobT There is a lot in that contract that is in no way standard for an American contract and would be thrown out in any US court. I know NDA's in contracts usually have stuff that isn't actually enforceable but this contract goes way beyond that.

@@FroggerbobTdo you even watched that stream??? WTF ARE SAYING???

@@FroggerbobT Massive L take. Why do you even speak up on topics you very obviously have no clue about? You're a bit narcissistic, aren't you?

⁠@@FroggerbobTThis isn't a standard contract, did you even watch Legal Mindset? He's also studied Japanese law.

I'm happy to live in country where legislation takes care of vast majority of things in employment. So employment contracts end up being really simple.

@@_Ekaros Yes, the US people always complain about the right regulation in the EU - but at least that's often a safety guard for us citizens, because we know and can research what a company is allowed or not do to and put into the contracts and that rules apply EU wide, not only for specific states

I’m curious when the Japanese will start translating this contract and how many will find it acceptable or not as a face image. Also fun fact; the Japanese Government can take down companies that are shameless(?) if I recall.

​@@ArcanistShion nah bro they will defend the yacht slave company

I work in several Japanese company in Japan. My first company was quite "black" as they were able to terminate contract instantly due to "mental problems" DESPITE Japanese rules of one month notifying to each party that the work contract will be terminated. The current one is legit and they give me 2 weeks for the contract, and actually is legit. So yeah, it is just ANYCOLOR here, not Japanese companies in general. There are good and bad companies.

@@howard6340 But still your black companies contract most likely was less brutal than the Niji one, right? Because "forgetting" about workers rights is one thing. The Niji contract is more a scam than a real work contract.

@@acmenipponair You can say that. Signing contract and giving them 3 hours is literally horrible. But termination though, is similar to Niji, sometimes your boss can terminate you because of "mental and spritual problems" and you got to sign that termination it RIGHT THEN AND THERE. They will make a statement that said "I will resign from this company due to personal reasons (一身上の都合により退職)" so even if you complain, the local government won't be able to help you out; though they will blacklist this company and make it harder for them to hire people to prevent further accidents Most people won't realize it is a black company once you actually spend some time inside it.

I wonder if Riku is a fan of a certain old person in Davos... sounds much like it :D

Preach my guy knowing your self worth and value is better than slaving away at a job you hate, I've also felt that way on my first job and after i finally moved on to another i realized i should've left the old one sooner

You go from 2 views to 1k on your first stream plus merch and sponsors handled for you. Most of these people would never see that kind of success overnight. They probably think it's worth it as long as they can make it big in the end. And most of all we're talking about young people with no previous job experience in a big corpo

They were only in their early 20s by the time so yeah...

@@shib5267 I guess that makes sense and hindsight is as they say 20 20. But still I find it absurd that this is the supposed contract and how anyone would sign something like that ... This just makes me sad for the talents that are still with them.

Nothing. It's a scam. They are preying on the naive and desperate.

The name brand and that’s it.

It could be like wactor

NJDF: How dare Khyo ruin people’s lives with this contract! Khyo: ?

Lmao

Don't jinx it fella, N-word might pull a Wactor.

Can confirm, a Scammer once got access to my bank account and saw i had the equivalent to just 1 dolar, he then proceded to SCOLD ME for falling over the scam and even offered me work lol (i rejected it) I'm pretty sure Riku in his position would have taken my money anyway

​@@alvarox951 That's kinda adorable tho ngl

However, in Japan this is probably very legal.

​@@colinguo5855 Again with the "Japan" thing. This happens everywhere, even in the US. Labor companies are even way greedier with their contracts, capitalizing on illegal immigrants and they always find loopholes to avoid getting sued.

At some point, even being associated with Niji becomes a brand risk. Just look at the Vtuber con that dropped Niji people from its roster. No one is going to want to touch Nijisanji with a ten foot pole lest they be damaged by it.

It's is illegal, people are just misinformed and in countries like the us and jp it's heavily stacked in the company favor, however, if this would happen In a core EU country I bet they would have been fined and at certain point banned from the EU territory. Demand rights, and know what they owe you.

​@@colinguo5855 Something Legal and Skirting the Law is very different bruv.

FM's contract for me is the thing I am most curious about, like what happens if one breaks contract, does both get fired? Do they split 50/50 what if the merch of one sells better than the other, what if one streams more ? So many questions...

@@tribopower Speculation; They most likely form their own company as a duo and sign as that entity, like how a rock band does. That way there is a single account for Holo to work with and any decisions/disputes are purely between the talents inside their own company.

Nah bro. If they is one entity holo adv will be 6 person

FM most likely just have two contracts. Don't forget, that the workers contract for the talents doesn't need to include what character they are playing, just that they are now working for Cover Corp. A workers contract is always individual, you cannot have one for two people, not even if they are husband and wife working together or siblings, but after that you can have them work together as a team for the same "project" = Vtuber. Also don't forget: each of them have seperated models, they just stream from the same computer. That they are presented as "FuwaMoco" is just marketing, in reality one play Fuwawa and the other Mococo and they form a team together.

​@@acmenipponair while it is most likely two contracts I could still see Cover only PAYING one entity for most things to make things simple and have the siblings deal with the split themselves. The exception to this would be merch sales since iirc there are individual goods for each of them at the cover pop up stores or whatever in JP.

No shit. Like, if they payed for all expenses, 50% could be fair, if the expenses are super high. If they payed for everything, having a return policy where they get their property back could be fair, so people can't use the system to get free gear out of it. But they don't. So the 50% are basically just for marketing. And that's way too much

​@@melonlord1414If you get fired from your job do you have to give them back everything you've bought with your salary for the time you worked there? No you don't and that's why this is fucked up.

​@@melonlord1414 True. The 50% is understandable as the talent is using company's IP BUT having only $1k to support the livers despite them doing everything to earn for the company is bollocks. And they don't even offer a base salary like Cover. YIKES!

@@Koronesuki1313In fairness, I don't think the Cover base salary is super high, and it's also denominated in yen terms. Kiara was talking about this on-stream recently; the exchange rate between the Yen and the Euro is horrifyingly bad, you lose almost 50% at the moment. So the actual purchasing power of Kiara's base salary, living in Austria, isn't that great. But anything greater than zero is still better than zero, I suppose.

I can take everything except the property return. I mean if I paid more than half the cost I'm entitled to own it

Nijisanji could've been anycolor but they chose black.

oh you have not heard of the early day k-pop contracts. Basically for training you and putting you on stage, the company owns you for about 20 years. Like they can control what you wear, what you eat, what you say, who you interact with everything.

Such is the early days of idol stuff. And current idol stuff, there’s still some bad agencies

​@@petraleongThat's literally legal slavery.

its almost as bad as Wizards of the Coast, that tried to claim anything created for DnD is theirs. That failed so hard.

What can wactor write in there that can make it worse? I doubt compensate debt with sexual favours was written in the contract. Everything else wactor did (that i remeber right now) is covered by the contract.

It's just 2 words. "Fuck you"

From what I see from this video about niji contract, talent literally going minus income from this, which is insane considering it is a goddamn job which on basic level is to provide income to survive, not losing more money working. If any contract gonna be worse than this then it would probably be like loan shark-liked contract that literally rob your soul to be considering worse

I wouldn't wonder, if WACTOR now thinks: "damn, our contract was to weak, look what Niji can get away with". Because I expect WACTORs contract to at least apply to the rules of Brazil :D This contract not even applies to japanese law...

I take that back. I watch the video summerizing about contract and this paragraph about amendment is more bullshitting. It literally saying that after signing that contract, if there are any change made in contract, kurosanji will notify vtuber about it to get respond BUT if no respond BEFORE 14 days or BEFORE VTUBER DOING ANY ACTIVITY (streaming) then it is automatically deem accepted. Which mean the contract itself is slave contract BUT once you sign, it became a devil contract instead. Because kurosanji can literally modify the contract, wait until last minute before vtuber going live and then kaboom! Contract done. Which they can literally writing any bullshitting thing like we own your soul now. (Not legally enforcable btw)

Yeah this does push forward the hostage message

The video did NOT feel like a hostage situation. You are just making that up. Elira and Ike tried really hard to sound like the victims and Vox reveled in tearing into his former "friend". You want so hard for them to be innocent, but face the damn facts.

I've been arguing this since Elira's joint stream on the issue with Vox and Ike. It was blatantly scripted and Elira and Vox could be heard chuckling where it were least likely to happen as if it was their first time reading it, Elira when she said she felt threatened and Vox when he was talking about Selen/Doki's document I believe. Uki's the only one I don't feel sorry for for obvious reasons, but even then, none of the livers, JP or EN, deserve this. "It's an agency! They work with each other, viewers! They bring in money, they establish brand, they encourage others to join to replace them when they get to tired to stream..." "That sounds like slavery with extra steps!"

@@groerhahn225 you say "face the facts," yet you don't provide any yourself. The entire point of that stream was to serve as a hit piece on Selen, painting her as the terrible person and Niji/Anycolor as innocent, there's no arguing against that, however regardless of if the livers wanted in, Niji management clearly wanted to fish for sympathy to make up for bogus claims, and the best way they could've do that was to paint the livers as the victims. Especially with the leaked contract giving a "sacrifice everything for us" vibe, it seems like you just want to extend your hate of Niji to the livers.

@@cubix_walrus7560That's some massive cope. Truth hurts. Truth is they were never being held hostage. Truth is they said it and nothing changes that truth. Make every excuse you want but anyone with any small amount of integrity would refuse such bullshit. They didn't. They aren't hostages but willing participants

And they leave it up to you to generate said exposure. Niji debuts livers so frequently if you don't hit the ground running you're going to be left in the dust.

​@@TheSkyheart5That explains why Nina was so competitive for growth at the beginning. Then she stopped and stagnated a bit. I'm guessing this is around the time they broke her. If she kept being her old enigmatic self, she probably would have reached 800K or higher. Meanwhile, Victoria and Kunai still haven't hit 100K months after debut.

Even if they could guarantee that, these terms are not worth it

Vivi Q-Q She didn't deserve the evils of niji

​​@@ericp631its never worth it for people who have a decent following, or have a stable livelihood, income, or is just generally well off, but you have to understand alot of those livers joined when they were young and probably out of a job or were working minimum and if not were probably indie streamers or vtubers with little to no following so the trade of having simply upwards of ten to hundreds of thousands of subs, viewers, or fans in a short span of time was enticing for such, it may not be worth it for you or me who knows their self worth, value and is not in a desperate situation but have you considered not everyone has the same privilege, that's why some people agree to such contracts just so they get a little bit of something rather than having none at all, let's be real any of the livers if they started as indie or have started as indie would've never grew this big as they are now. For an example i know some of the livers not just nijisanji were probably working retail or a minimum wage job they never really enjoyed and just the fact they're earning just a bit more by joining said agency despite knowing that the contract is already as close to slavery is already for them better than slaving themselves away at something they hate, we're all slaves to something at the very least they still were happy or enjoyed being a liver despite all the drawbacks and these shtty conditions cause what's more shtty for them than said contract? Their old life

Niji transform from yatch company to slave company

But that's the problem: Some people just want clout. Look at the VTweeters... they also will tweet whatever bullshit they can as long as they get clicks.

"Like Nijisanji, this message will self-destruct in 10 seconds."

Yeah sayu would probably work better! Also I want people to pay more attention to her contract story cause that's insane

1,3k is quite thin... And I'm thinking of stuff you need outside the dekstop-PC. Like screens, arms for phone, maybe light, microphone+arm+input device... Maybe desk, maybe some sound proofing... Last one would be fun eff you when quitting, ship them few pallets of junk...

explains way Petra used a laptop

​@@129dasWhen Nina talked about being in debt, I was wondering how? Now I have the other thoughts of "how the hell did they make it this far?!"

Well even in japan some college students still have take a lesson on how running Ms. Word in college. Unless they are tech company like cover, they surely underestimated the cost for PC

Yeah, even from the short version I also get a feeling that this contract is at the same time way too restrictive and not detailed enough, leaving too much to open interpretation. The fact that the company does not seem to be accountable for anything (like mediating internal conflicts between livers, which should be a basic enough thing) only adds to that feeling.

First time looking at the contract in LM stream i honestly almost doubted the legitimacy of this thing, who in their right mind couldve drafted up such garbage terms and conditions?

@@NineLives99999The same people drafting the termination notices lmao

@@NineLives99999 If this was released before selen's termination, yes I agree. But we saw selen's termination's letter, and the absolute mess afterward. Yeah, it just aligned with all that's happening sadly.

​@@NineLives99999I'm pretty sure it's obvious after seeing the termination notices. They also listed a job offer for an English business manager fluent in Japanese and business level English that pays about $8 an hour...

In the VTuber application it says to stay for a minimum of one year, that's all I can tell for sure. But with a contract like that, it probably takes time and a lot of planning to get out of there again as safe as possible.

Agreed, as they could quit, give njisanji back all equiptment and other in time being there, get support by anti-njisanji people and be in better place. Now when after out of it will be justifiable vilified!

Exactly. Fans would always follow them, and even support their choice.​@@klemenhudobreznik3421 Followers regained, moral standing intact And new business opportunities waiting for them if they went against the black company.

You are talking about people who were herded into signing this contract in the first place. They can be herded into doing just about anything if that's the case. Even if they hear that they could leave and prosper they aren't always going to be capable of relating that to themselves. Also, many people throughout history have witnessed far more horrifying things during the course of "doing their job" and kept on doing it. The interrogation rooms don't clean themselves.

The summary doesn't really say it, but looking at the contract makes it pretty clear that you can't just leave. The contract runs for two years and is automatically renewed for another two years unless the liver applies for a graduation 3 months before that date. (Nijisanji on the other hand can terminate the contract anytime with 3 months notice.) In case of termination the contract gives Nijisanji a lot of opportunity to reduce or even keep all of your pay. Unlike Vox said, it's not always an option to just leave. In a way every liver who signed this contract is also a victim.

​@@klopferatorThis As much as we would all like the NijiEn talents to stage a coup against the company, the fact is that they are damned if they do anything to bring about AnyColor's ire The contract states that you need to submit your graduation notice three months before the renewal date, but there's nothing stopping Niji from delaying your graduation date if they feel like it (could be part of the "obligations" that Mysta mentioned during his initial graduation announcement stream). If it was hard to leave Nijisanji amicably before, then it's gonna be damn near impossible to do that right now with all the drama surrounding them.

Probably business as usual. Assuming they're under the same contract then they're SOL anyway, they live in Japan and play by their laws.

They're doing better. Since they're closer to their fans, they get better support compared to their overseas branches. Also Mito, Kuzuha, and the OGs have a very strong hold of the vtuber scene in Japan. They might even have better contracts than EN.

Actually if you pay attention, many of them leave. Not renewing the contract, graduation, etc. My own highlight is Chihiro, member of first generation. She is actually quite successful. She graduated, but then redebut just within days. The fact that she prepared new model and persona and everything, make me believe that she thinks it is better to be indie than to stay in niji.

Often, you have to sign away your right to say legit anything negative about your former employer if you want severance (personal xp). Granted, that was struck down as illegal last year. It's generally not a good idea to be publicly negative about priors, unless there are abuses than need to be known, in general, because that stuff can get around in your industry and isn't a good look.

This was a gag order on top of her NDA. This would have prevented Sayu from releasing "One Girl's Story".

Anyone who wants to start being a vtuber should really avoid Nijikuro at all costs. Between that and starting as an Indie, they'd be a whole lot better off starting as an indie.

@@R_Caine Gotta admit, now that all of this shit's coming out the woodwork? i'm glad my niji application failed, shit me..

​@@R_CaineAbsolutely. The idea of ANYTHING I buy can count as a work expense that I have to give back to Nijisanji despite me paying for it, hell no!

Or not only that any aspiring liver would also have the thought of "even if this contract is bullsht and is basically slavery i would never gain a big following or fan if i go indie unless i join said company because they have a following already" let's be real alot of these livers would've never gotten the same level of success as indies, so some of them probably read and know what the contract is and signed it regardless because they're desperate for a better life, don't forget alot of these livers are young and are probably working minimum or was in retail before they become vtubers or was indie streamers/vtubers who had little to no following, so the setbacks of the contracts to what they probably would gain is a better trade for them just because of their circumstance or situation, and even though the contract was next to no profit they're probably earning more than their previous job despite what the contract cuts seem, overall some of them may know its shtty but it beats what was going on for them at the time

Especially when the fandom/oshi paints a rosey picturesque view of the company at the beginning. I can somewhat understand young new talent not knowing better that would sign such a shady contract without putting too much thought since job market/industry at that level is quite savage.

There's a clause on there for that too lol

Wasn't she terminated for being a shotacon?

@@Mac0bra_no. i'm not the hugest fan of zaion/sayu either but that absolutely wasn't the reason she got termed. not even nijisanji listed that as a reason, and they had a boatload of bullet points. the statement they released is easy to find, and you can find sayu's own statements on the matter pretty easily too.

@@Mac0bra_ No, she wasn't... she was just fired because Niji realized that they couldn't break her enough to not be an independent acting woman.

@@esavvysavokiii1277 If being fired for being a shotacon or lolicon would be a thing, half of the vtubers would lose their job. At least half :D That would be like firing all pedos in hollywood and then trying to find enough people to produce a movie with 3 actors... you would fail :D

@@acmenipponair you think a hollywood production without pedos would get far enough to have ACTORS? buddy, you wouldn't have any writers, directors, producers, or film crew. wouldn't even have a concept let alone a show 🤣

Most places you can't openly own slaves. But you can unofficially hire child labor if you're quiet. Hell, there's surprisingly not as much protection for minors outside of maybe sexual endeavors. But even if you don't want children workers, you can hire interns, temp workers, contractors, prisoners, migrants, outsourcing... The secret is most economics only work because a majority of labor is done for free or massively underpaid. Hell you can run publicly funded places with some of the worst practices, rates, and contracts imaginable.

I mean if your employees earn tips you don't even have to pay them minimum wage.

I wonder why Scarle's tweet was missing. Did they forget about her or is something else going on?

@@TheSkyheart5 No idea at this point. But she may have honestly been on hiatus at that time, I do recall things with that going on. It might have been that.

The promise/illusion of being richer and more famous than they are, and not giving them time to properly read it or get in contact with a lawyer before signing anything.

They're trying to reach the mariana trench

Nope... 2 year periods, with 3 months before end of each period when contract can be terminated...