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LEARN NEUTRAL FAST - Tekken 8 Beginner's Guide 

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@tkZombie_
@tkZombie_ 3 месяца назад
I asked a friend what his one piece of advice for climbing is, and he said "take as little risks as possible until you need to gamble for a comeback" and i think that is a crude summary of your video here. Great video, mate.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
thanks for the comment! yeah roughly this video is just to help people understand that you dont always need to press when youre up, and how to control your advantage/take advantage back!
@johngreen7546
@johngreen7546 Месяц назад
Don't do that I'd destroy you if you played like that with me
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC Месяц назад
@@johngreen7546 thats not how that works
@johngreen7546
@johngreen7546 Месяц назад
@@tkZombie_ don't do that I'd destroy you if you played like that with me
@johngreen7546
@johngreen7546 Месяц назад
@@AveryxFGC sorry bro that message was for the other guy
@TheAngryPugYT
@TheAngryPugYT 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this guide.!! I’ve been having trouble in a neutral game so I am spamming my flowcharts before the opponent gets me 😂😂
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
Of course! im glad the video has helped you out some! if you ever have questions or need help always feel free to leave a comment! I usually respond pretty quickly and im always down to provide help and insight to anything!:)
@1Ksheffi
@1Ksheffi 3 месяца назад
A timely video, just made it to Garyu this past Monday, and the neutral game is something that I need to improve upon. Thanks.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
of course! my next video will be going over how I got out of red ranks, that might help as well!
@ranelquinto5205
@ranelquinto5205 2 месяца назад
Awesome content. Not just combos and best moves like other youtubers but an actual game analytics. You got a sub!
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 2 месяца назад
Thanks a ton! I really try to bring informative and well thought out videos that are meant to actually help improve the mentality and though process of tekken! I like to think of tekken similar to chess, having a good mentality and being able to outsmart your opponent is so important in this game!
@DangerDewey
@DangerDewey 3 месяца назад
Great video as always Averyx! im for sure going to keep this video in mind when im ready to practice neutral, thanks a ton!
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
Thank you! I'm glad to hear its helping:)
@Waheeeey
@Waheeeey 2 месяца назад
Finally got a PC good enough to play tekken. Time to actually learn the game. Liked and subbed
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 2 месяца назад
thats awesome to hear, good luck on your ranked journey and always feel free to ask any questions you might have!
@micshaz
@micshaz 3 месяца назад
im going to watch this as if i'm not already high rank and an offline tournament player; and hopefully i learn something - we can all learn something from the simplest of insights! and i am not even expecting this to be simple.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
Hopefully you learned a little bit of something! I consulted with a few tournament players as well that I play with to make sure the basis of the video makes as much sense and gives the best information possible, good luck out there in ranked!
@micshaz
@micshaz 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC i think the idea is really solid and it's a really good video
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
@@micshaz Thats great to hear, I love making content like this for people, I appreciate the support!
@nosurvivors100
@nosurvivors100 3 месяца назад
sitting at bushin with kaz currently so I went into this video with a closed mind thinking what the hell am I gonna learn from a garyu. pleasantly surprised at just how much you can learn about your neutral, how your opponent reacts to your neutral, and how you and your opponent adapt mid match. I'm gonna start going over my replays with a fine tooth comb now, thanks this is a great vid!
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
im super glad you were able to find something of use in this video!! yeah I mainly play offline right now because ive been so busy so im finally trying out ranked and wanted to give my experiences from offline and what ive learned about running the gauntlet of ranked haha, thanks for the awesome comment man, good luck in ranked!
@fragr33f74
@fragr33f74 2 месяца назад
Dude, as a beginner to fighting games, this video was so helpful. Personally, I'd love to see more videos like this, especially against other popular & powerful characters. Like, what to do against King, Law, Asuka, Horang, and other popular characters. New sub earned 😊
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 2 месяца назад
thanks a ton for the comment! I do absolutely plan on doing more videos like these, and already have 3-4 videos planned on a similar subject! half my audience really likes these types of videos, and the other half really likes watching me play online, so I plan to continue a nice balance of both for my channel for the foreseeable future!
@fragr33f74
@fragr33f74 2 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC "Perrrfect" - Halo announcer voice 😂
@razersedge2k974
@razersedge2k974 3 месяца назад
Just found your channel, and it's one of the most in depth, well explained and aware tutorials i've come across. Subscribed and will be looking forward to more videos. Keep up the amazing work
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
Thanks a ton! I am glad you were able to find things that helped you out in the video! next weeks video is all about getting to purple ranks and my journey there, thanks so much for the support and I hope you continue to find value in my content!
@lolmaorofl
@lolmaorofl 20 дней назад
Love the breakdown, hope there’s more breakdown videos please
@NateDdragon
@NateDdragon 2 месяца назад
made it to garyu from beginner in 2 days by cheesing with devil stomp mixups and devil 1+4. this’ll help me a lot when dealing with lili and king. thanks!
@Lexa1.1.2
@Lexa1.1.2 3 месяца назад
These videos are super informative and as someone with bad internet and who can’t really play with other people these videos help, especially this one❤❤Love this new style where you’re explaining things❤Great video as always❤❤I will be watching this many times❤❤Also how’s the streaming thing👀👀
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
thanks so much for the support, im glad youre enjoying the content!! I took a backseat on making more relaxed content to make sure I could get the views up on my channel, so most likely next wednesday when my video goes live I will most likely be live the following hour after! as long as things go well and according to my plan for the video haha. Ill have a link in my desc. and ill make a mention of it in the video!
@Lexa1.1.2
@Lexa1.1.2 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC hell yeah!
@jshskylark
@jshskylark Месяц назад
Excellent guide, brother - thank you for this walkthrough it was really insightful.
@daking7861
@daking7861 3 месяца назад
Hella good video and I like how you analyze things! Appreciate it man!
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
of course, I appreciate it a ton! good luck out there in ranked dude!
@lightvideovideo
@lightvideovideo Месяц назад
8:19 thats a really cursed frame right there 😂
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC Месяц назад
yeah that is I didnt even realize that LMAO
@rXunwuteamwork
@rXunwuteamwork 3 месяца назад
When I attempt to whiff punish a move, I often end up getting hit first at 4:29.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately its a weird thing with T8, the game is too new right now for me to say if its just something everyone has to get used to, or if its T8's extended hitboxes
@ayosgsauce
@ayosgsauce 3 месяца назад
Is there a free-roam camera mode you can watch matches with? Apparently I'm the only one who doesn't know about it lol. But it's cool when people show matches in different angles.
@AngeloGene
@AngeloGene 3 месяца назад
I think it's in practice mode? I don't know where specifically though. And I think there's one in match replays but I might be wrong since I don't use it much.
@moremiso
@moremiso 3 месяца назад
Pretty sure its a mod
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
hey! the mod is "Universal unreal engine 5 Unlocker" and is how I get all of my free cam shots, the mod does cost money and is on patreon but there are free versions out there, I cant post them because I dont wanna get in trouble, but try using something called "kemono party" to get free patreon content and start there:)
@ayosgsauce
@ayosgsauce 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC thanks. Just curious! Thank you for taking the time to make the video!
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
@@ayosgsauce of course! im glad you found it helpful!
@WockMonkey
@WockMonkey 3 месяца назад
Hey im new im trying to figure out at the most basic level what i should be aiming to do in neutral. Is it more character specific? I play raven because he looks cool and also he kinda clicked a little better for me than other characters so far. But should i just be looking to set up opportunities to whiff punish? Should i be looking to frame trap my opponent with jabs? I have never “seriously” played fighting games (tried to learn and get better and understand the strategy of how the game plays on a fundamental level) so this is all new to me anything would be helpful
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
hey, thanks for the comment! Neutral in the most basic form is when both characters are neither advantage or disadvantage in positioning specifically. your plan in neutral will depend on life lead, round count, character specifics, opponent character specifics, and opponent habits. For instance, if your opponent is bryan, and he keeps using 3+4 (his long reaching mid kick that has huge pushback and counter hit launches) your goal might be to bait out the 3+4 by focusing on advancing quickly to freak him out and get him to press, and immediately sidestep and launch his 3+4. I would say the three most important things when deciding what to do in neutral would be your character and the gameplan you would like to execute, your opponents character, and your opponents habits. Everything else is eventually important, but isnt as immediately important as those three things. TL;DR: if you know your opponent keeps throwing the same few moves over and over in neutral, base your gameplan on exploiting those moves to punish them!
@WockMonkey
@WockMonkey 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC ok that actually helps a lot thanks
@ChristopherWaddelow
@ChristopherWaddelow 3 месяца назад
Hey, after Kazuya's magic 4 counter hit I think ff4 is a better option. It seems to setup better oki. I don't know if you play Kazuya often but figured I'd throw it out there.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
hey! I main kazuya so I am aware of this, this was my first game on of the day and I usually substitute db4 instead while im warming up so I dont mess anything up and lose the extra damage haha
@RiZA_KaY
@RiZA_KaY Месяц назад
Great vid dude!
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC Месяц назад
Thanks a ton!!
@gl40ty
@gl40ty 3 месяца назад
helpful tips till the day I own tekken this will be saved in my tips and u got a sub🤞🏾
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 2 месяца назад
Im glad I could help, hopefully you can pick up tekken soon!
@mee_guel
@mee_guel Месяц назад
Lowkey I just spam my frametraps with Kazuya, db4-df2 and ff3-df2 are my go-tos and also f4 and db4. Any other frame traps I can utilize when dealing with aggressive Jins and Drags? Hahaha I have a hard time dealing with Jin lol.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC Месяц назад
Jin is a very string heavy character in this game and you can get SOO much milage just from learning his most common strings. Spamming frame traps can definitely get you far with a lot of opponents though! Id say take a look at some anti jin guides on youtube and you should be pretty set, so many jins play the same haha
@mee_guel
@mee_guel Месяц назад
@@AveryxFGC i labbed Jin because my friend kept spamming me his stance frame traps, I kinda know some of his redundant strings and his wd1 oki setup. What strings do you usually start with Kaz?
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC Месяц назад
@@mee_guel 1,3,4 is another string that comes to mind that ive seen spammed quite a bit that kaz can launch punish at -13, so I wanted to get that one down so I can get easy damage to stop spamming. 1,2,3 and 1,2,4 are also another very common string I see spammed quite a bit since the frame on block is great, and it comes out at 10 frames. With enough practice you can beat both of those strings by fuzzy ducking, same with jins df1 extensions, I see a lot of people just throwing out DF1,4 without any care, and you can again fuzzy duck his DF1 extensions to beat all of his options, however you have to be a LOT faster than with his jab strings. Jins D2 can also be ducked on reaction very consistently (and launched again with kaz), along with DB4. Jins Hellsweep is also the only hellsweep (In tekken 8) that you can also react to pretty regularly. If you can consistently shut down 1,2 strings, punishing df1 extensions, and punish D2, DB4, and hellsweep, mixed with the knowledge you will already know, I can promise you that you will very easily be able to shut down 90% of jins all the way into tekken god, and I am not joking with that haha. its a lot to practice, but even getting 50% success rate with any of these will very very easily increase your chances of winning against jin a TON. use these moves to punish jin, and use a decent bit of CD 1+2 to lock him down and frame trap mashing jins and youll be on your way to an easy winrate against jin!
@mee_guel
@mee_guel Месяц назад
@@AveryxFGC thanks man, imma lab these now and get the timing on point, u earned my sub🫡🫡🫡
@Itsjfell
@Itsjfell 2 месяца назад
Great video
@Terrencehill19
@Terrencehill19 3 месяца назад
How do you actually build & keep the pressure up ? I play DJ, and I often feel like I'm unable to threaten the enemy, since I only have one strong low and many of his pokes also kind of suck... So I often end up not being able to open up or seriously threatening the opponent, while just getting blendered by them
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
the simplest way to explain DVJs gameplan is to open players up with hellsweep, if you find opponents arent ducking and you have the time, throwing out hellsweep into a decent combo can net some decent damage, but also scare your opponent into ducking more. The essence of Mishima characters being so hard is because the game plan revolves around "am I going to hellsweep or not" your mids are there to check them if they duck, your electric for if they get lazy with approach or sidestepping, and your 1,1,2 to lock them down. DVJ has some decent get out of jail options for when hes getting attacked, but the problem comes from actually attacking. If your opponent just has solid ass defense everything ive said above is going to become much harder to do. As someone who plays a Mishima, the best advice I can give you is to really focus on movement, with EWGF being literally the best launcher in the game, learning how to KBD if you havent already and control space will carry you so far. The gameplan of "hellsweeping to get health lead and just not approaching and only playing whiff punishes" can actually win you so many rounds against people who like to turtle up, because at the end of the day if you have the higher health bar when that timer goes off, youre the one thats winning!
@Terrencehill19
@Terrencehill19 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC thanks alot for the tips ! Yeah ok, so that proves what I feared/thought would be the case... I love DJ for his "main villain boss" vibe, but the sheer amount of buttons you have to press in such a short time to be a real threat (cd-iws2, ewgf, kbd, wp ewgf...) frustates me; others press one input and I lose 50%HP 🥲
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
@@Terrencehill19 yeahhhh its kinda the name of the game with mishimas unfortunately, A lot of people want difficult characters, and thats kinda the role the mishimas fit haha
@WickdUser
@WickdUser Месяц назад
Oh this is nice!
@tylerjameshaymes8832
@tylerjameshaymes8832 3 месяца назад
Like and subscribed. Great video
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much! im glad you enjoyed my content:)
@AntagonisticArtichoke
@AntagonisticArtichoke 3 месяца назад
So why do people stay crouched the entire fight
@mttsgrandfather2812
@mttsgrandfather2812 Месяц назад
Because they’re not getting mid punished. I use Asuka and if someone is crouching I hit 1+2 and it drops them and gives me the chance for a combo.
@starbutter2730
@starbutter2730 2 месяца назад
Tyty❤❤
@vargasaidan7366
@vargasaidan7366 3 месяца назад
great video :)
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@MoodersInit
@MoodersInit 3 месяца назад
Amazing
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
im glad it helped!
@bartek4536
@bartek4536 3 месяца назад
I think I played you in ranked 😀 I recognise your name 😀
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
oh nice! who do you play? I usually always use this same customization haha
@markshmellomd1370
@markshmellomd1370 3 месяца назад
Intermediate ranks start at blue. What is ur actual rank?
@razborkaptrsk9428
@razborkaptrsk9428 3 месяца назад
Intermediate starts from Mighty Ruler
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
I am an offline player that has only ever grinded really with offline tourney players and finally giving ranked a chance, so I honestly am not sure what my highest will be. People I play with are around emperor-TGS so id say probably the bottom end of that while im focusing on learning matchups im unfamiliar with!
@markshmellomd1370
@markshmellomd1370 3 месяца назад
@razborkaptrsk9428 nah, u can get to fujin just by flowcharting and having no real fundamentals, I did so in 30 hours with bryan, and I've never played a tekken game before. Raijin is when people actually start becoming good stepping, whiff punishing consistently, whiffing on purpose with low recovery moves to bait whiff punishes etc. Everyone else is just pressing buttons. There's a reason 20 + percent of the playerbase is in fujin. Ruler ranks are 40% +. Would u really look at a GN to MG player from csgo and call that player an intermediate player? No, but they are statistically the same as a ruler.
@markshmellomd1370
@markshmellomd1370 3 месяца назад
@AveryxFGC do u actually consider ruler ranks intermediate, tho? Unless ur playing reactably, u aren't really playing tekken. Ur just flowcharting until something sticks. Up until mid blue ranks players are learning how to pilot their character rather than playing the game.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
@@markshmellomd1370 I would say intermediate is a "slightly better than average" rank. I dont think setting "intermediate" to be middle of blue makes much sense personally. in the grand scheme of things if the majority of the player base is stuck in a certain rank, the few ranks following it are where you would be above average, thus "intermediate". I have seen quite a few good players consider tenryu to battle ruler to be the intermediate ranks. you have to keep in mind that ranks are going to be bloated with the game just coming out, and the nature of a 1v1 game youre going to find people much easier that are boosted than if you played a 5v5 like counter strike just because the lack of other opponents in the lobby. remember, intermediate doesnt specifically mean GOOD. I do agree that it is all flow charting, but in a sense flow charting is the simplest form of understanding of a game plan. so if none of the other ranks understand gameplan and are all mashing, I think its fair to say the ranks where people finally start having a gameplan for their character would be intermediate (even if the gameplan still sucks), and it would only become advanced play once players start to understand the opponents character and plan their gameplan accordingly. The game has gotten very popular very fast, so the skill ceiling has gotten a lot lower right now, it seems much easier for players like us who have a basic understanding of fundamentals, but because of the larger player pool and the huge vast variety of players with varying skill level, I think its safe to say in my opinion ruler ranks serves as an intermediate testing ground, and blue ranks serves as a test of if a player is dedicated enough to learn their character and their opponents as well!
@gl40ty
@gl40ty 3 месяца назад
I have pirated tekken I want to play ranked so bad 😭
@luhhtee2547
@luhhtee2547 3 месяца назад
Cut some grass, make $50 then get on cd keys. Then play ranked!
@ShittyGamePrototypes
@ShittyGamePrototypes 3 месяца назад
​@@luhhtee2547 Accidentally starting a thriving business just because you wanted to play Tekken is legendary
@yungmaui4876
@yungmaui4876 3 месяца назад
Save up and buy the game
@luhhtee2547
@luhhtee2547 3 месяца назад
@@ShittyGamePrototypes lmao exactly
@fenzelian
@fenzelian 3 месяца назад
The pain of pay2lose games
@xecydez
@xecydez 3 месяца назад
Zoomed out tekken in the intro look goofy as hell
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
its even weirder when you watch them teleport around during rage arts LMAO
@dwizZzie
@dwizZzie 3 месяца назад
Throw this all out the window against "Reina"😅
@bloodcake1337
@bloodcake1337 3 месяца назад
no offense but giving neutral advice at garyu seems kinda far fetched, like even in fujin there are some people who dont really understand it this is my very first fighting game besides smash and im currently sitting at shinriyu after like 80 hours and I dont see myself ever giving anyone advice since I play like a complete dumbass
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
I said at the very beginning of the video that this isnt my actual rank. im an offline player that doesnt play ranked because I have practice partners that are tournament players. I only started playing ranked because of youtube, theres a lot ive learned playing with some of the best players in the united states, and what ive talked about is not only true, but things that have been passed down and taught to me by these same professional players im practicing/playing with EDIT: The topics im talking about as well is the absolute basic fundamentals of neutral that red rank players should be learning right now, if Fujins dont understand at least the first step of advancing in neutral thats a very bad sign
@bloodcake1337
@bloodcake1337 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC I mean you uploaded ranked gameplay like 2 months ago, if you are truelly playing waaaay better then red ranks you couldve skipped like 3 ranks per day, im not saying your information is wrong im just saying you arent really in the position to give advice as a beginner, it just seems wrong
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
@@bloodcake1337 I am PhiDX's full time editor, including multiple other content creators, I am also a full time college student who has just been in the process of moving. I dont play ranked often at all because I dont have the time to play at all, since this video has gone live in the two days ive gotten on im right now at my promotion to mighty ruler, and I still havent played more than like 10-15ish games in that time.
@bloodcake1337
@bloodcake1337 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC Aighty, I belive you lets see how far youll get by the next video :D
@bloodcake1337
@bloodcake1337 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC aighty mighty, I belive you, lets see how far ull get by the next upload :D
@Itsjfell
@Itsjfell 2 месяца назад
😂 slight advantage is +19? 😅 jk man. Just had to be that guy sorry 🤪
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 2 месяца назад
youre fine haha, The idea of saying "slight" advantage is because its not a true +19 from the knockback, its more of a 50/50 hes set me up in, so I wanted to just talk about the importance of not pressing in situations like that. No worries about poking fun, I know its all in good nature:)
@M.Shepardbee
@M.Shepardbee 3 месяца назад
Talk louder.
@AveryxFGC
@AveryxFGC 3 месяца назад
no
@ABizzareJoe
@ABizzareJoe 3 месяца назад
Turn up ur volume
@M.Shepardbee
@M.Shepardbee 3 месяца назад
@@ABizzareJoe lolol I tried! If the next step is be less poor and buy bigger speakers. Good luck, I've got no money and plan to keep it that way.
@M.Shepardbee
@M.Shepardbee 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC lololol asked and answered !
@M.Shepardbee
@M.Shepardbee 3 месяца назад
@@AveryxFGC is this holding neutral ground in real life? I think we call it "holding space" no?
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