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Learn Sword Fighting 5: Continuing The Attack - The Zucken 

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What to do if your opponent displaces your attack without creating a threat. In this episode: Pull your sword back and thrust - the “Zucken”.
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@Rearpix
@Rearpix 8 лет назад
Would love to see a video where all of these methods are used in one single fight. Anyways keep up the great work.
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
+Spy z Backstab thanks! @video: though it won't be a HEMA-demo but a short film... maybe soon ... www.traum-und-wahnsinn.at/54 we will post an update once it is released.
@ioneiroi8350
@ioneiroi8350 4 года назад
1:02 “Now since Katy doesn’t want to die...”
@danforthsam6698
@danforthsam6698 3 года назад
Lol
@whynotalicorn1233
@whynotalicorn1233 2 года назад
"Very enthusiasticly"
@rbq7lx
@rbq7lx 7 лет назад
I have found you guys to be great sword fighting teachers. Thank you!
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
thanks for the compliment! we are glad if these videos are helpful and help people getting into HEMA.
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 месяцев назад
@hcrhfiveandsix2599 historical european martial arts :)
@lordcannon6549
@lordcannon6549 7 лет назад
I love the slight dry wit in these totorials. Well done!
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 5 лет назад
So me and my friend/friends always go to the park to skirmish a lot, and I was always last pick cause my experience, I've watched your videos, (in fact, rewatching as of now for a refresh), and I wiped them out in a fluid motion, with little to no clash at all, that's how I know you are teaching us correctly, good on y'all, plus 1 sub and like on all sword fighting videos, keep it up!
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 5 лет назад
Niceeee! Glad we could help you out! :)
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 5 лет назад
@@Dreynschlag hey, it's cool that you responded after the video was posted long ago, but I didn't see a short sword tutorial play list, is it the same, or is there a lot more to it that isn't in a long sword move list?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 5 лет назад
one handed sword is a different animal. :) We focus mainly on Longsword. We might do a one handed" Langes Messer" tutorial in the distant future, but probably not within this year.
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 5 лет назад
@@Dreynschlag that's all I want, cool, I'll be on the look out then
@hannarae4311
@hannarae4311 7 лет назад
As a writer this is a very helpful breakdown of these moves! Plus I have a sword from a costume that I am practicing with just started to get interested in sword fighting.
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
That is the reason for our videos: we want to inspire people for historical fencing :)
@loiniirgaming6125
@loiniirgaming6125 5 лет назад
I agree! I've recently been struggling with describing the sword movements but this is going to help a lot!
@Casa_Media
@Casa_Media 6 лет назад
I'm a Filipino and this tutorial is great. I hope this kind of swordfighting will be revived.
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 6 лет назад
Hi and thanks! The HEMA community grows and is pretty active - so chances are good. Greetings from Austria!
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 5 лет назад
What was the point of stateing your Filipino???
@thecoloroctet1365
@thecoloroctet1365 5 лет назад
The Scouts just to show how awesome he is
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 5 лет назад
@@thecoloroctet1365 yea, I guess, but it just seemed pointless, so it kinda bothers me, I hate doing or saying pointless things
@fishbone116
@fishbone116 5 лет назад
FourBowl Media kaya nga eh madali lng a tutorial
@TheGeorgianOne
@TheGeorgianOne 7 лет назад
Good job on making the tutorials short, clear and very informative! You have my sub.
@kiwitealc5353
@kiwitealc5353 Месяц назад
I'm writing a fantasy novel (just for fun) that involves a good bit of fighting. This channel has been so helpful! These sword fighting videos and the quarterstaff videos are so useful and detailed. Thanks for sharing!!
@St1cKnGoJuGgAlO
@St1cKnGoJuGgAlO 4 года назад
I'm a very beginner in HEMA. I've practiced iado and niten ichi Ryu "Japanese styles of swordsmanship" for a while but wanted to expand and encompass my European roots. I find your videos very straightforward and helpful and want to sincerely thank you for making and posting these. So... Thank you. Sincerely.
@kasvandenhofstad9056
@kasvandenhofstad9056 16 дней назад
This mist be the best tutorials if seen on the topic!!! Thx for the hard work!
@videoGunZ
@videoGunZ 8 лет назад
Great series! I'm really looking forward to learn more from you :) Greetings from Germany
@KurstingCherries
@KurstingCherries 6 лет назад
I needed these so my brothers don't just do random things or throw the sword in random places. THX!!
@nightwing-or7st
@nightwing-or7st 4 года назад
Thank you for this you guys are providing me with a hobby that is healthy rather then flameing so thank you
@infernalastaroth_1634
@infernalastaroth_1634 8 лет назад
Yeah I watched these to get me started on sword combat and this helps!(Now I shall combine this with my knowledge of all ligtsaber forms and I can be the best warrior ever)
@majesticamv8180
@majesticamv8180 4 года назад
I am here to learn how to use swords thank you for the step by step process 😊
@sirjohn1307
@sirjohn1307 7 лет назад
Thanks for the tutorials and info on HEMA.
@K.I.S
@K.I.S 3 года назад
These videos are oddly relaxing
@thatonenicehusky3623
@thatonenicehusky3623 4 года назад
Very helpful! Was able to beat a friend in a spar using this method.
@alexcurran2755
@alexcurran2755 8 лет назад
Thanks for the tutorial, been looking for one for a while :)
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
you are welcome. great if it helps!
@TheNandixLP
@TheNandixLP 8 лет назад
Es wird bei jeder Folge spannender! :) Es ist jetzt für mich schon viel leichter die Bewegungen zu verstehen, da jetzt schon der Spielraum da ist sich das ganze in einem richtigen Kampf vorzustellen. Mir gefällt das Format sehr!
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
+TheNandixLP Danke, das freut uns! Wir wollen euch vor allem die Prinzipien, die hinter den Techniken stecken, erklären. Wenn du dir das langsam vorstellen kannst, sind wir zusammen auf einem guten Weg :)
@marceloferrari4242
@marceloferrari4242 5 лет назад
Este golpe é complexo,mas com treino se torna instintivo. Excelente instrução,muito bom, saudações de toda nossa academia
@astra6698
@astra6698 3 года назад
Thanks so much for these, im writing notes on all your vids for a fantasy book im writing, these techniques are really helpful!
@whynotalicorn1233
@whynotalicorn1233 2 года назад
I hope you finish!
@2ndCrusades-
@2ndCrusades- Год назад
Is it out yet?
@astra6698
@astra6698 Год назад
@@2ndCrusades- no 😭
@ericjefferson7262
@ericjefferson7262 8 лет назад
love these tutorials
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
thanks! more coming soon :)
7 лет назад
Das beste "Zucken" Video, das ich kenne. Man könnte noch anmerken, dass man nicht in eine Oberhut zucken muss, sondern einfach nur zurückziehen kann, z.B. in den Pflug, und direkt von unten zum Leib oder Kopf stechen.
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
Vielen Dank! Ja, du hast natürlich recht. Wir versuchen es bewusst sehr einfach zu halten, weil wir in erster Linie die Grundlagen/Prinzipien für Anfänger erklären möchten.
@f0ggy808
@f0ggy808 11 месяцев назад
Love the more theory in the beggining and also general statements of typical opponent reactions, is there any change to see any vegetables get cast?
@NAME-xh9yw
@NAME-xh9yw 6 лет назад
Das war echt toll!
@marceloferrari4242
@marceloferrari4242 5 лет назад
Gostaria de ver um uma instrução sobre espadas militares ocidentais,como sempre este vídeo muito bom parabéns
@frankysmith3273
@frankysmith3273 7 лет назад
this clips are the best i ever seen on youtube to learn sword fighting an handling!-thanks for this great job and please dont stop to make videos like this! ps:gedi i am with you!-maybe its better for you if you dont start with oberhau at first!-at best you get the grip in you face or a kick in your eggs.-what next?-a kick in ass?-hahaha!
@GediBern
@GediBern 7 лет назад
Thanks for the feedback! Well and yes: Maybe I should think about a different initial attack... hmmm ;-)
@kyleragudo3657
@kyleragudo3657 3 года назад
Thanks.
@morroschreiber
@morroschreiber 4 года назад
How is this a zucken and not a durchwechseln? Or just a winding to ochs ? I am a little unclear on zucken, which seems to be explained differently by different people. Thanks for the great videos!
@TTHUNDERR72
@TTHUNDERR72 7 лет назад
i love these im gonna win against my friend because of these
@fbiagent1350
@fbiagent1350 5 лет назад
Did you win against your friend with those moves?
@OfficialAnnikaS.B
@OfficialAnnikaS.B 3 года назад
@@fbiagent1350 and what do you need to know that for? Oh yeah right ur an agent sorry
@marceloferrari4242
@marceloferrari4242 5 лет назад
Estamos testando essa técnica com a katana com resultados muito bons,gostaria de conhecer os modelos de espadas e sabres europeus,um vídeo seria ótimo. Deus abençoe a todos aí em Viena
@SuperCJmax
@SuperCJmax 6 лет назад
What about doing the other six basics attacks before doing more specialised counter attacks? Mittelschlag, Oberhau etc. ....
@martinweiss2955
@martinweiss2955 2 года назад
Zucken seems to leave the attacker open for oberhau or a thrust on the newly opened attacker's flank, shoulder, head or elbow.
@kt-ih9gj
@kt-ih9gj 3 года назад
I have a question, what if your right leg keeps on shaking and you cant stop it when you are in the defensive move like at the beginning before you are explaining , how do you stop the shaking on your right leg? It always happens to me when I practice
@austinthibodeau5952
@austinthibodeau5952 7 лет назад
I just want to say, I love your videos and you guys are doing great. I'm learning a lot. But I was explaining this technique to my father and he brought up a good question; what if your opponent just moves their blade back to their right side to block your second Ort?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
Hi and thanks for your feedback! If your opponent manages to displace your 2nd thrust the game simply continues depending on how he did displace: Therefore check first if you are still in a thrusting position or if you are ready to do another Zucken, Abnehmen or Durchwechseln back to your right side. Or maybe you are safe to leave the bind and do a Zwerchhau... etc. There a lots of possibilities depending on the situation.
@austinthibodeau5952
@austinthibodeau5952 7 лет назад
Wow thank you so for responding so quickly and answering so clearly. This was extremely helpful. Looking forward to more tutorials. Thanks again, I have a lot a practicing to do! :)
@xunremosefuldisruptionx2209
@xunremosefuldisruptionx2209 8 лет назад
at 1:30 the guy is just like," please no" if you look for his stare at the camera xD
@GediBern
@GediBern 8 лет назад
damn you can read my mind :D
@lsi1514
@lsi1514 3 года назад
When the giant monster is too high a level for you; Retreat in an orderly fashion
@ChristsBeloved777
@ChristsBeloved777 5 лет назад
could you guys make videos that show how to fight when your not fighting another swordsman ( like how to use a sword against someone using a chain
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 5 лет назад
that is an excellent question. Unfortunately there are very few manuals about duels where the combatants wield different weapons. Maybe in the distant future we will cover something like this, but for now, we focus on sword VS sword, staff VS staff, and so on. Check out traditional gladiator fighting. There the fighters have different equipment. For example trident, net and dagger VS large shield and short sword. (Retiarius VS Secutor)
@Ygdrasil18
@Ygdrasil18 8 лет назад
Hallo, ich verfolge spannend eure Videos. Was mir jedoch schwer fällt ist die Bein arbeit. Könntet ihr in euren zukünftigen Videos auch etwas über die Beinarbeit sagen, sowohl von Verteidiger als auch Angreifer? Das wäre sehr hilfreich. Danke und macht weiter so!
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
Hallo und danke für dein Feedback! Wir werden uns dazu in einem der nächsten Videos etwas überlegen.
@moreorless1544
@moreorless1544 Год назад
Is there a place or sight were I can get a real, sharp rapier sword? (That is not overly priced)
@DuckDaSimp
@DuckDaSimp 2 года назад
"Now since Gedi doesn't want to die..."
@King-ud8fj
@King-ud8fj 8 лет назад
Can you do some videos were how to defend.
@gregorsuchentrunk388
@gregorsuchentrunk388 8 лет назад
A kind of defend is shown in our Vid. Nr.1 Make a Oberhau against a Oberhau and do a step backwords. Also our vid Nr.2 is a kind of defend "the Zornhau". Notice only defending is the best way to die, we always try to attack while defending. In the vids 3/4/5/6 and 7 Gedi only defends without an attack and without winning the initiative.
@bono894
@bono894 7 лет назад
Cool stuff. How old are these techniques?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
our interpretations are based on treatises from 15th and 16th century
@Remosaurior
@Remosaurior 8 лет назад
I really need to know where to get that t-shirt
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
+Remosaurior from our friends in Poland: shop.scholagladiatoria.pl
@rhysnichols8608
@rhysnichols8608 2 года назад
They look like true Saxons
@markus6799
@markus6799 3 года назад
Wo kriegt man den Helm her und was nutzt ihr generell als Schutz Rüstung in dem Video
@puliput117
@puliput117 3 года назад
i actualy have some friends and we treain and battle with ,,swords,, ( i mean realy stong stics who are long like some long-sword s )
@MiZielek
@MiZielek 8 лет назад
Can you make some tutorials for 1 - handed sword?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 8 лет назад
unfortunately we don't have the resources for this atm... but take a look on Illkkas (Bolognese sword) or Rolands (sword and buckler) channel for example: ru-vid.com ru-vid.com
@phaines9
@phaines9 7 лет назад
in general, would you advise being more offensive or defensive minded?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
well depends on the interpretation of "offensive" and "defensive". in my opinion it's most important to avoid being hit and to attack only while you stay protected because that's what you would do if those weapons were sharp (you might call this defensive).
@ricolaw2571
@ricolaw2571 6 лет назад
Well let's think about this Mr. Haines. If you were in a real sword fight (because these are combat weapons designed for war), how long could you defend before I break through it to end your life? Or before I receive help and you get killed because there's 2 or more of us? all the texts I've read do not defend without looking for an opportunity to counter attack. You want to dispatch your adversary as quickly as possible. So defense only in pursuit of offense makes sense.
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 5 лет назад
Defend till you see an opening, and defend long, you may catch them off guard, don't defend forever though, strike fast, or they may hit first
@commanderrockwell1123
@commanderrockwell1123 2 года назад
@@thescouts4734 If you’re defending for long, you’re losing the fight. The enemy is getting opportunity after opportunity to attack and you are denying him none of them in such a scenario.
@thescouts4734
@thescouts4734 2 года назад
@@commanderrockwell1123 no one did you can't take a pot shot, just don't make a full attack for a kill if you aren't confident you will hit
@afriendlyrebel5709
@afriendlyrebel5709 5 лет назад
Will all those European Techniques work with Katana?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 5 лет назад
Hmmm, some of them probably will. But since the weapon is so different, a lot of the techniques shown on our channel might not be suited for the Katana. If you are interested in this weapon, its would be best to check out Ninjutsu, Iado and Kendo. :)
@c-gm-s5107
@c-gm-s5107 6 лет назад
Could you sometimes do slowmo for us to understand better thank you 🙏
@mikhaeelmahomed
@mikhaeelmahomed 7 лет назад
i have a question what happens if the apponent manages to parry the zucken
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
in this case continue your attack. depending on the situation there are a lot of ways to do so (you might for example try to thrust from Winden etc.)
@user-fx3tf7yf5o
@user-fx3tf7yf5o 7 лет назад
Подойдет только для наработки основных навыков в бою использовать почти невозможно. Есть варианты проще и проверенней.
@GandalfGaming2144
@GandalfGaming2144 7 лет назад
when will you next upload
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
Hi! Unfortunately you will have to wait for a little longer. The next season is already planned (and we hope we've picked some interesting stuff for you) but we had to take a short break. The release will probably be in early 2017.
@GandalfGaming2144
@GandalfGaming2144 7 лет назад
thank goodness
@ziigwa
@ziigwa 7 лет назад
But what if your opponent strikes from their side while your about to thrust them ?
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 7 лет назад
First of all timing and recognizing the situation are essential for Zucken, Abnehmen and Durchwechseln. You have to attack in a way that forces your opponent to displace your attack (so otherwise he would get hit). Now you have to recognize wheter it's a situation for Zucken, Durchwechseln or Abnehmen - and you have to start your action while he is about to displace your attack. If there's an attack while you thrust (or an afterblow right after your thrust) your are in a strong defensive position called "Ochs" (ox) with your hands beside and above your head, your sword held in a thumb grip - as shown in the video. This protects pretty well against attacks from above. If he attacks low simply move into "Pflug" (plow). So your blade is between yourself and your opponents weapon and while performing your counter you have moved out of your opponents line of attack. If he attacks after your thrust keep in mind what Bernhard always tells in our videos after the technique: "Maintain cover and retreat in an orderly fashion."
@shawnsims5507
@shawnsims5507 5 лет назад
How would I do this by myself not too many people in mid Western us who want to train with me.
@davidkyo1985
@davidkyo1985 5 лет назад
www.hemaalliance.com/club-finders Depends on where exactly you're based, of course, but I see quite a few clubs in the Western US as well. Hopefully you'll find what you're looking for if you haven't yet.
@thepwntrain3230
@thepwntrain3230 5 лет назад
I feel like you’re videos could be longer
@Dreynschlag
@Dreynschlag 5 лет назад
Thanks for the feedback mate. We decided to stick with the 2,5 minutes timeframe to keep it simple and straight, and to focus on the most important keypoints, so that it is not getting too confusing. :)
@atlastheholycrusader2623
@atlastheholycrusader2623 3 года назад
They say it's chess. I say it's tic-tac-toe.
@trevorjohnson3229
@trevorjohnson3229 3 года назад
Japanese swords are proven to be more resilent during the time period.
@Flamingbob25
@Flamingbob25 7 лет назад
I'm starting to feel bad for Gedi (I hope that's how it's spelled) always the victim never the victor.
@GediBern
@GediBern 7 лет назад
Haha, thanks for your support! Life can be tough ... :D But I finally got some revenge in our Schielhau-vid.
@jacksonking6353
@jacksonking6353 3 года назад
I’m just using my wooden sword
@JBT..
@JBT.. 7 лет назад
what? no fruit?
@badfilmmaking3413
@badfilmmaking3413 4 года назад
Am I the only one wanting Write a fight scene in the forest With overly used fighting lines
@callumoneill9368
@callumoneill9368 6 лет назад
guten tag
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