The keyboard does not have a significant influence on the typing speed. That is proven by all the superfast qwerty typers on standard keyboards. Also touch typing with 10 fingers is not needed for high speed. So the point of being 25 % slower is nonsense. I am a strong advocate for touch typing and ergonomic keyboards and optimized layouts, but this video is misleading and not helpful IMO. Also the statement that hands should be shoulder width apart is questionable. That has advantages, but disadvantages as well mostly mouse use, which having that in the middle is not optimal IMO.
I understand your position, but ergonomic keyboards can offer long-term comfort and productivity for many people. While some individuals may achieve high typing speeds on standard keyboards, learning touch typing can optimize technique and reduce the risk of injuries. With regards to hand separation, we strive to strike a balance between ergonomics and efficiency in daily work. As everyone has individual needs, our aim is to provide options that promote both health and performance. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Are we gonna get different colours after the official release since you have a gold one in the video personally I would love a gold or red one !!! Tbh we should have such options if we are gonna be buying a product which costs between 400-700 dollars lol
The gold one you see in the video is the Raise OG. If we sell a certain number of Raise 2, we'll be able to offer more color options on our website. The availability of these options depends on our sales, so there's a chance we may offer even more choices in the future, just like we did with the Raise OG 💪
Great tips. If I could add something here to help those increasing typing speed: Increasing typing speed is a very _incremental_ process. Another commenter mentioned that one should type at the speed of their thoughts. One's train of thought is derailed when we make errors. For us to improve our speed, we need to improve the flow of the train of thought. To do that, we have to find our typing flow rate in which we make _minimal_ errors and then SLOWLY and INCREMENTALLY add speed until we _raise_ that flow with minimal errors. Great video 👍
Thanks a lot for the feedback! That is a great way to put it. It helps to cretate a path and objectives, and that always helps when trying to accomplish goals. We agree on the matter that sometimes the limit is in out train of thought, but skill and not needing to think about mistakes also helps. You can always adjust the speed and type slower, but if you want to increase it, you'll always need to improve the speed down the line
I've gotten into touch typing 10 days ago after two decades of poor habits (I guess I'm what you’d call a gamer typist.) I do really well when I have to copy words shown on a screen (e.g. on Monkeytype) but struggle when I need to type what's in my head.
Keep up the great work on improving your typing skills! Transitioning from gamer typing to touch typing can be challenging. Practice regularly, and you'll improve typing what's in your head over time. Consistency is key!
i game a lot on my pc. i know this is probably aimed towards office workers who use their keyboards all day but if i only use thumbs for space how will i be comfortably pressing alt?
On the Raise 2 ALT is on the same place as a normal keyboard. With extra thumbkeys you can move ALT to one of those keys and retrain your muscle memory to use the thumb. But you still can use ALT as always.
I can type plain text comfortably with 50wpm on my Defy with colemak (coming from my homebrew qwertz 7-finger style with 80wpm), but it still feels so sloooooow in daily use because of all the ingrained key chains, e.g. for things like moving a row up or down in vs code, selecting the last written word etc.. mostly things involving the arrow keys and sometimes f keys for things like debugging. I tried quite some variations on how to place the arrows on my Defy, but in comparison just lifting the hand and putting it blindly down on the right spot on my standard layout keyboard ist so much easier that I still use it over my Defy when I want to get sone work done without feeling frustrated 😢 Any tips?
Another option can be using the dual function keys or the superkeys, so you can have the "normal character" that you would have on that key when tapping and one of the arrows when holding or double tapping, so you don't need to go to another layer, just hold or double tap. Maybe this video can also help you 😊 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kkXt6ddbmSw.html
67 wpm, but the area in the center of my keyboard (B, H, Y, G) are less precise. So the further away from the home row it is the worse it gets. I also never use my pinkies when typing (they are mostly reserved to modifier/special keys). But at least it's touch typing - hopefully the Defy will force in some better habits that what i have on my keychron
Transitioning to columnar is a great moment to perfect your touch typing. You can still "cheat" with some letters, but it encourages proper touch typing.
We have a columnar keyboard too, the Dygma Defy, but many people appreciate a staggered split keyboard. Think of it as a gateway to keyboard ergonomics: it's easy to start using because it's a familiar layout, and then from there you can explore all the ergonomic benefits. And in the future, you can switch to columnar if you want.
When some gaming device? Its a matter of taking a left side of any of your keyboards and adding a joystick (thumb stick?) to it. There are not too much competition here - Razer Tartarus and Hori TAC Pro are the only ones left. I own Hori pad. And also two Saitek PZ31a which i've used since 2008. I can't imagine play games without them. More people should move from clunky 3-finger-WASD control to thumb-only-WASD! You don't even have to write mapping software as reWASD tool is great for that!
@@DygmaLab Well i haven't seen any joystick in accessories. Also i see that all available switches for swap are standard/high-profile ones and for me these are big "no-no".
We don't have the accessories yet, and the switches we have the standard ones, so if you want to personalize your keyboard you can do it as much as you can but with switches from wherever you want 😊
We will ship it with PBT keycaps, but we don't plan on doing novelty keys. The Raise 2 mounts standard Mx Stems, you can get the sets from other vendors and install them on the keyboard, that's what we did for the video 😉
My take on touch typing: It matters if you can type at the speed of thought, this means you can put more focus on putting stuff out of your brain. If you can touch type, it means that you can focus on the screen and not worry whether you've hit the right key. It is like riding a bike or driving a car: you want to focus more on the road rather than the steering. But the best outcome to touch typing is that you can get into online arguments faster and more efficiently.
That first sentence is facts and something a lot of people don't think about. We can generally type some (usually simple) words fast like "The," "And," "That," or just everyday words we type a lot, but when it comes to longer words and longer sentences, then we NEED to slow down and find the perfect flow speed for typing with _minimal_ errors while also not messing up our train of thought. The more errors we make, the more our train of thought gets derailed and our flow gets messed up and we have to re-configure our thoughts.
True that, especially the online arguments part 😂 Jokes aside. We completely agree on that. When you're trying to write something with meaning, the deterrant is the brain, not the fingers. But better technique also helps to automatize the typing part and allows to focus on the important part. Thanks for the insight!
Just tested: 90 WPM with only lower case letters on my Defy. Having said that, the more important number is not how fast you can type, but have fast and effortless you can control your computer. This includes key presses that don’t show up in the final result, such as backspace, shift, etc. That is where programmable keyboards with thumb clusters really shine. Just having home row mods (e.g. shift on F and J; control on D and K) already makes a tremendous difference. Macros and superkeys can save loads of time. What also matters is how little you have to switch between keyboard and mouse, how much time this takes, and how error prone it is. The small width of the Raise/Defy helps significantly with this. For internet browsing I highly recommend the Vimium plugin (available for all browsers). Even if you’re unfamiliar with Vim, you’ll quickly get the hang of it and likely won’t want to go back.
Totally agree! There are many other aspects to take into account to measure your keyboard skills, such as, apart from the ones you have mentioned, the error rate and if you do a correct touch typing with your keyboard, among others. It is also important, as you have also mentioned, the layout of the keyboard you use and if its features help you to achieve a better typing skill. Thanks for the feedback!
Logitech MX Keys mentioned let’s go! Honestly I am looking forward to switching to a split keyboard though. Low-profile scissor switches have been my jam for almost 2 decades of coding, but I’m hitting a wpm wall and getting sore wrists at the same time. It’s time to level up.
This was helpful, especially the tip about the pinky pain. I was playing around with learning proper touch typing with an alternative keyboard layout, and I attributed the pain in my pinkies to the layout being bad. But I guess I'll give it another try! Also, what happened to Dominique's hot-pink mouse?! (Asking the important questions here!)
id say i was a gamer typer originally, after getting a ergodox planck and ergodox ez i started moving towards touch typing for the mostpart, after getting the defy to use at work and using the ergodox at home, id say that I am pretty much a touch typer these days, but as for gaming I am still moving back and forth with that typing style since I still have memorized most of my passwords while using the gaming style, trying to relearn them all using touchtyping is just a hassle xD
We feel you 😅 Columnar/ Ortholinear models cannot be used with as much freedom as staggered models, but it forces to use all the fingers, which feels pretty good when typing.
Touch typing and it's 47 wpm. Since getting my Defy a few months back, I've realised that what I was doing previously wasn't touch typing (I used only index and middle fingers and thumbs, didn't needed to look at the keyboard). Been practicing touch typing for a few weeks now and I'm getting better.
That happened to a number of people here. When we started testing the Defys, we realized that some of us were not as good at typing as we thought 😂 Keep practising and you'll increase it in no time.
And we did not dare to ask for.... We figured it out months, but since we had to type the script with the Defy at 12 WPM, it took a while longer than expected 😂😂😂
