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Lebron James's Flaws Are WORSE Than Michael Jordan's 

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@genshishio9316
@genshishio9316 Год назад
Why people acting like they weren’t cooking MJ for not winning until he did?
@justinw72ify
@justinw72ify Год назад
Exactly!!!!!!
@Hiddengem813
@Hiddengem813 Год назад
Make no sense
@brandonmadden654
@brandonmadden654 11 месяцев назад
They wasn’t cooking him 😂😂😂
@bluntsensei
@bluntsensei 4 месяца назад
​@@brandonmadden654yes they were, the narrative for MJ before his first title was what AI got called... A selfish shot chucker
@coolj3428
@coolj3428 3 месяца назад
@@brandonmadden654all you gotta do is watch the last dance to see that’s exactly what they did
@CTBSlash0509
@CTBSlash0509 Год назад
Nobody says that Emmitt Smith is the best RB ever even though he's the all-time rushing leader. This is the same with LeBron.
@TopTierHater
@TopTierHater Год назад
emmit smith doesn’t have 4 championships and 4 mvps tho. i’m not sure if this logic works.
@basedkez
@basedkez Год назад
@@TopTierHaterneither has he led the caliber of teams bron has to a nba finals (super bowl in emmitt case)
@Hawkeyes319
@Hawkeyes319 Год назад
@@bigphilly8434agreed
@MarkWadey
@MarkWadey Год назад
​@beery6659 u forgot sophomore Paul George n Roy hibbert
@johnvagues7524
@johnvagues7524 Год назад
Barry was better
@kdizza34
@kdizza34 Год назад
Ticket’s last statement was a definitive mic dropping moment!! 😂😂😂
@joshjones9749
@joshjones9749 Год назад
After that last room killing bitchfit it was nice to close out with more facts 🤣
@2robjenkins
@2robjenkins 3 месяца назад
Except that everyone ate and won on Jordan’s watch in the 80s.
@cliffdavis9618
@cliffdavis9618 День назад
​@2robjenkins who's smarter then a 5th grader. Not you. 😂 the 80s belong to lakers Boston and Detroit. Detroit beat Boston and lakers bulls beat dog walk with a clean sweep and never look back for 3yrs. Try again.
@userunknown1578
@userunknown1578 Год назад
Fun fact: After 20 years of playing, LeBron STILL doesn't have as many offensive rebounds as Jordan.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 Год назад
@userunknown or steals and a couple years ago he had less blocks but he is the better all around player ? LOL
@userunknown1578
@userunknown1578 Год назад
@@christiansoldier77 Everyone knows Jordan is the better all around player. This is just a fun fact for the LeBron superfans that think LeBron is such a great rebounder.
@kaycorpz7891
@kaycorpz7891 Год назад
@@userunknown1578he still is a good rebounder wth you talking about
@userunknown1578
@userunknown1578 Год назад
@@kaycorpz7891 Jordan is the better rebounder of the 2.
@jasondakidd882
@jasondakidd882 Год назад
@christiansoldier77 lebron doesn't have as many 1st round broomsticks either 😂🤣😳
@mr.getrighhttt3433
@mr.getrighhttt3433 Год назад
In the 2007 Finals, Bron shot 35.6% from the field, 20% from 3, and 69% from the FT line. He was 100% the reason they lost. 😂😂😂😂
@nicholashackie1407
@nicholashackie1407 Год назад
Facts!!!
@kingclutch1978
@kingclutch1978 Год назад
Oh sure not the Spurs defense zoned in on him 24/7 and his own coach using Pop’s plays, SURE LeBrons why they lost
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 Год назад
And his 6 tov per game
@zxcvb3772
@zxcvb3772 Год назад
@@kingclutch1978 So basically what you're telling me is that Lebron indeed couldn't shoot, and indeed doesn't have any moves, which is what led to those numbers and turnovers. Bet you don't make the same excuse for Jordan when he played bad in some games, "the defense was just better", or Curry, or any other players being compared to Lebron. Lebron fans are different when it comes to lack of accountability and being delusional.
@mr.getrighhttt3433
@mr.getrighhttt3433 Год назад
@@zxcvb3772 Right! And a few of those games were decided by like 2 points I think. Guess who missed FTs during those games. 😭 Free throws have no defense. I’ve always said Bron would have way more chances to win rings if he could make some free throws.
@2cents250
@2cents250 Год назад
I’m glad I watched Lebron and MJ. Even outside of the Mavs series Lebron has come up short. Cramps. Moments where he gave up on his team. Walked off the court before it was over. MJ played with more heart even in a losing effort. Both are phenomenal players. I personally prefer MJ for his intangibles. Lebron is more versatile but he didn’t have more success.
@yasiinaweys3282
@yasiinaweys3282 Год назад
how can u say lebron play with less heart thts clear bias and u clearly have a bias opinion
@Ghost-rb6cw
@Ghost-rb6cw Год назад
Who played against better competition lebron or Jordan?
@Nootz23
@Nootz23 Год назад
​@yasiinaweys3282 you can easily say Lebron played with less heart if you ever watched both of them play. Lebron's got a little "quit" in him. MJ don't.
@yasiinaweys3282
@yasiinaweys3282 Год назад
@@Nootz23 u can't say tht how can lebron play for 20 years at an elite level go to 10 finals and 8 straight even wen he loses he goes again yet ur talking about heart tht logic is the most bias reasoning for picking a players u cant compare the to cuz it clearly shows ur bias cuz u don't know them u have never spoke to them
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Ain’t reading all that. Legoat better 😂🤣
@asundelgun3487
@asundelgun3487 Год назад
He said Tim Duncan lol. Tim has 2 finals victories against Lebron
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Okay… IT is 3-1 against Jordan. Bird cook jordan. Rookie shaq nutted all over Jordan😂🤣 it’s laughable
@StCropper
@StCropper Год назад
Same thing I was thinking
@dantewilliams7458
@dantewilliams7458 Год назад
He still stopped him from winning
@biggsav7802
@biggsav7802 Год назад
And lebron has one in 2013 what’s your point?
@StCropper
@StCropper Год назад
@@biggsav7802 😂😂😂😂
@MegaKhalid121
@MegaKhalid121 Год назад
“There’s more than one way to skin a cat” I love this dude ticket yo 😂😂😂
@ProphetP11
@ProphetP11 Год назад
😂😂😂
@Lastnameabdi
@Lastnameabdi Год назад
His phrases be hilarious “Janet jackass”😂😂😂
@waaa3081
@waaa3081 Год назад
@@Lastnameabdi janet jackass gets me every time
@CreamCity-ml3bi
@CreamCity-ml3bi Год назад
Michael Jordan ruthlessness prevented him from having the amount of flaws that LeBron has
@efeezy7770
@efeezy7770 Год назад
MJs Skills prevented Jordan from having more flaws in his game than LeBron
@mightymallardz768
@mightymallardz768 Год назад
Jordan's perseverance is truly something to admire. The odds will be stacked against him and he'll still try to kill you to the very end
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
​@@efeezy7770LEBRON FG% 50 3PT %34 higher than MJ. So lebron the GOAT and he better skilled player.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
​@@mightymallardz768LEBRON FG% 50 3PT %34 higher than MJ. So lebron the GOAT and he better skilled player.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
​@@efeezy7770mj was a first round exit a LOSER got swept twice. 😅😅😅😅😅 mj had the BEST TEAM OF COURSE HE WON but a loser without his superteam of the 90s. He played weak COMPETITION. Did he play against the spurs and warriors in the finals. NOPE. Overrated lebron the GOAT.
@MoeJaxon
@MoeJaxon Год назад
Lebron didn’t even have a post games , a consistent jump shot and consistently take games over in the first half of his career
@Gmacshow
@Gmacshow Год назад
I dont listen to marz because he used longer career to put lebron over mj. I dont listen to chill because he told lies to elder in a mj vs lebron debate. Cant listen to people who tell lies and come up with nonsense to pick lebron over mj.
@SeeingShadows
@SeeingShadows Год назад
How is longevity a lie u fool
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Год назад
Yea if you’re able to sustain greatness for a longer period of time that’s an achievement and something that helps your case over another player even if you disagree with how much it matters
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
@@kingjaydex7464 longevity means nothing if your not winning in the process. Especially since the other guy won more in less time.
@freexoki
@freexoki Год назад
@@kingjaydex7464literally
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 Год назад
@@kingjaydex7464Lebron ain’t do shit but hand out rings to the other team , when you get up off ya knees atleast wipe ya mouth lil bro
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 Год назад
A players prime holds the most weight ( for me atleast) in any GOAT debate in any Sport. MJs prime is so absurd he's just a level above LeBron. MJ at his peak was a better Scorer, playmaking just aswell, actually higher as MJ has a higher 3 year box creation ( box creation is Creating open shots for Teammates). MJ was doing that in an era with less spacing and less overall scoring therefore less opportunities to put up stats. MJ was a better overall shooter, better post game betted footwork, better perimter defender, and a MUCH BETTER OFF BALL PLAYER. MJ better at setting screens and had the intangibles in his favour. MJ averaged more steals and Blocks and funny enough more offensive Rebounds despite being smaller. Also MJs worse Playoff series that he lost statically came in his ROOKIE Season agaisnt a 60 win Bucks team that had HOFer and 2 X DPOTY Sidney Moncrief Guarding MJ. They also had All star and multiple times First team All defence Paul Pressey. Guess what MJ averaged against them as a rookie?! 29PPG 9APG 6RPG 3 steals and a block on 44% shooting. THAT'S HIS WORSE SERIES EVER AND HE DID THAT AS A ROOKIE!!! That's literally better stats and as efficient as Kobes Career Playoff Averages and around similar Numbers to LeBrons career average and he did that as a rookie against the best Defensive team of that era!!🐐
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 Год назад
At both of their primes LeBron did almost nothing better than MJ.
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Ain’t read that shit. Goat James betta
@dapper892
@dapper892 Год назад
@@negusknight7918”Pft, kid can’t even read” - Billy Madison
@dapper892
@dapper892 Год назад
Preach
@shaunsmith5635
@shaunsmith5635 Год назад
Chill needs to Chill! How in the hell he tries to undermine MJ is asinine. Jordan was a killer! He didn’t leave it up to no one to kill but him.
@Michael-vw4cg
@Michael-vw4cg Год назад
Lol wait a sec, did paston and Kerr hit multiple clutch shots for them?
@vodka4gaben
@vodka4gaben Год назад
Get MJs meat out yo mouth goofy. I don't mind if people say MJ is the goat, I see their argument but for me its Legoat. Everyone acts like MJ had no weakness and that he NEVER choked and never shined away from big moments. MJ wasn't an elite defender first years in the league, he was never a good passer, he NEVER shot the 3-ball good, and he isn't evne the best mid ranger shooter of all time, that title belongs to Kevin Durant. And he was a good Free Throw shooter, not a great one, but a good one.
@blackprideb1236
@blackprideb1236 Год назад
​@@Michael-vw4cglet jordan fans tell it ... Jordan is 6-0 no help
@Ghost-rb6cw
@Ghost-rb6cw Год назад
Lol so who is more of asinine curry or Jordan? Because I'm pretty sure curry was a more feared shooter and asinine then Jordan was lol, you can even make a better argument for kd being a more feared shooter and scorer then Jordan, y'all mj stans just have this type of ridiculous infatuation for this dude.
@bna919
@bna919 Год назад
@@Ghost-rb6cw Do you know what asinine means? Why did you use it so weirdly. Curry being more feared than MJ as a scorer is arguably but MJ definitely struck more fear in his opponents than KD did
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 Год назад
MJ > Lebron don’t @ me
@0vern9K
@0vern9K Год назад
@xkid.darkskin5178
@ChateTheGreat
@ChateTheGreat Год назад
LeBron>MJ He’s just bigger, faster, stronger, more durable, shoots better, more efficient, played against better comp, family man, better teammate. Miss me with the 4
@3.15ant
@3.15ant Год назад
@@ChateTheGreatDamn… All those things & he still isnt the Goat😹😹😹😹😹Thats crazyyyyy
@shazebahmed0704
@shazebahmed0704 Год назад
Facts
@shazebahmed0704
@shazebahmed0704 Год назад
@@ChateTheGreatthe only thing lebron has over MJ is longevity and passer that’s it MJ was better in every other single department
@andreanderson4360
@andreanderson4360 Год назад
Ticket has a point tho jordan has always did his job as the best player and was never the reason why his team lost a series and you can't say the same about lebron
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Righttt in 95’ when he got the ball striped and got scored on and got nutted by rookie shaq but oh well he was out of shape
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
Learn comprehensive skills please before you start talking. TRUTH is lebron the GOAT. Robert horry 7-0 in the finals. He better than mj too 😂🤡🤡👇👇. MJ was CARRIED by Scottie he never had a winning season without Scottie clown 🤡🤡🤡🤡. MJ had the best superteam in the 90s that won 55 games without him. Bill Russel better than MJ he also have 11 rings. Fmvps didn't exist in the 60s 😂. MJ OVERATED 6-0 record in context? Clyde drexler Portland trail blazzers is not better than 2014 or 2007 spurs. Charles Barkley suns and utah jazz is not better than 2015-2018 warrior clown. MJ faced weak competition and he was CARRIED by Scottie. Lebron the real GOAT carried teams as dolante west as his second option. Lebron played MAJORITY OF 55 PLAYERS. He was Drafted in 03 😂,same year MJ retired CHOKING With the wizards. Yea the truth is LEBRON THE GOAT End of discussion. 😂🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂😂😂😂. MJ fans really hate reality. Mavs in 2011 SWEPT KOBE and beat KD okc in the wcf. But mj would beat them. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂👇👇👇👇👇😛😛😛😛😛.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
mj was a first round exit a LOSER got swept twice. 😅😅😅😅😅 mj had the BEST TEAM OF COURSE HE WON but a loser without his superteam of the 90s. He played weak COMPETITION. Did he play against the spurs and warriors in the finals. NOPE. Overrated lebron the GOAT.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
MJ 1-9 without Scottie Pippen try again. He QUIT because he couldn't play with his team anymore cane back and was TRASH with the wizards. 4 6 is not put into to conext. Because lebron faced better competition in the finals. MJ never beat dynasty gsw or spurs. Stop the stupidity
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Год назад
mj was a first round exit a LOSER got swept twice. 😅😅😅😅😅 mj had the BEST TEAM OF COURSE HE WON but a loser without his superteam of the 90s. He played weak COMPETITION. Did he play against the spurs and warriors in the finals. NOPE. Overrated lebron the GOAT.
@TheJesseGladSaget
@TheJesseGladSaget Год назад
This is common knowledge to anyone who actually knows basketball (which obviously disqualifies like 99% of Lebron fans). Jordan's only "flaw," 3pt shooting, wasn't really a flaw at all. It was more a product of his era. When Jordan shot a relatively high volume of 3's he shot them at a high clip. Y2K fanboys can't get it thru their thick skulls that the game wasn't always a 3pt jacking contest. Lebron's flaws are not only way more glaring, but way more abounding. He's a below average jump shooter; he has no reliable midrange or post game; his footwork is atrocious; he's a historically poor FT shooter for a perimeter player; despite his inflated numbers, he's really not that good a rebounder; was only an elite defender for like 1/4 of his career, etc. Add that to the fact that he's been the author of some of the most egregious meltdowns and been on the losing end of some of the biggest beatdowns ever, it's an absolute joke that so many ignorant folks call this dude the GOAT. Nothing but a media hype job. Always has been and always will be
@ScoutsHonor.
@ScoutsHonor. Год назад
The way you guys treat Jordan. Y’all are like his minions that go page to page to fight the evils of the spirit of Bron. Like saying a nigga who’s 6’9 footwork is atrocious is crazy. Lol
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Ain’t reading that essay bozo. Legoat betta
@bna919
@bna919 Год назад
@@ScoutsHonor. Below average jump shooter is just a lie. Brons post game is solid and he doesn't really need a midrange because he kills opponents at the rim and with his playmaking. Even then his mid range isn't bad. I agree LeBron has too many blemishes to be considered the GOAT but he also has one of the most impressive feats in NBA history and imo has had the second greatest peak since the merger
@TheJesseGladSaget
@TheJesseGladSaget Год назад
@@ScoutsHonor. Absurd take. Lebron isn't expected to have good footwork because he's 6'9"? Ever heard of Hakeem, or McHale, or Duncan? SHAQ had elite footwork and he weighed like 350 at his peak. Weak excuse. Lebron at this stage of his career should be working primarily out of the post. His horrid footwork prevents that from coming to fruition
@ScoutsHonor.
@ScoutsHonor. Год назад
@@TheJesseGladSaget no. His footwork is great for a nigga his size. But the fact you went there is only showing how low you’ll go. But you talking to a man that understands why you talk like that. Lol
@MALLYGEEZ1
@MALLYGEEZ1 Год назад
Lebron is too young when he loses. Then he's too old when he loses. Then, his teammates are dead. then the other coach is better. Lol, why does lebron need so many excuses if he's so great.
@mr.getrighhttt3433
@mr.getrighhttt3433 Год назад
Lebron James has lost playoff series his entire career because he couldn’t shoot. Not just early on. Literally these past playoffs, he shot his team out of the Denver series in the fourth quarter. He missed 22 straight 3’s in the fourth quarter in the playoffs on top of that. And I believe he was 7-22 in fourth quarters vs Denver from the field. This hasn’t stopped. 😭
@demari1711
@demari1711 Год назад
In year 20. He’s still be held to this standard of perfect in year 20. I’ve never seen a goalpost move dis drastic
@mr.getrighhttt3433
@mr.getrighhttt3433 Год назад
@@demari1711 who said he had to be perfect? He was TERRIBLE. Not even average. Nobody expected perfection. Lol he should have been passing the ball.
@demari1711
@demari1711 Год назад
@@mr.getrighhttt3433 bruh ur holding no1 else to this standard, jordan with the wizards was ASS n nowhere near the playoffs. No1 has been even half this good this far into their career
@mr.getrighhttt3433
@mr.getrighhttt3433 Год назад
@@demari1711 y’all can’t read. I’m not holding him to ANY STANDARD. I’m saying he was BELOW AVERAGE. Abysmal. Terrible. Garbage in the fourth quarter. Also, take into account how today’s game is, and compare than to back then. Less physicality and less defense. More technology and training. You guys do realize a lot more superstars are going to play well passed 38 right? Like don’t be surprised if KD puts up similar numbers in two years. And btw, today’s NBA has the highest pace since the 60’s. Scoring is inflated, so you can’t compare that. The 2000’s era had an average nightly pace of 97 ppg whereas now it’s 115 ppg.
@bigshadiie4623
@bigshadiie4623 Год назад
@@mr.getrighhttt3433 ur both moving slow the man was playing on a messed up ankle and dropped 40 in the last game while nobody was helping him wtf💀
@shomankave6304
@shomankave6304 Год назад
It's longevity in scoring title. Stop lebron at the same year you would stop Mike at. You would see Mike is way ahead in scoring. This is not Amazing it's longevity that passes real special scorers.
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance Год назад
Lebron a more efficient scorer? Yep.. LeBron is the layup king. He can't make FFs when needed nor knock down the mid-range jumper. 1-20 from 3s in 4th during his playoff run. 😢
@KingJudah1701
@KingJudah1701 Год назад
Its funny how nobody talks about Robert Horry saying the Cavs in 07 ran the Spurs playbook by Mike Brown..you cant win running the opponent's playbook as your offense
@tommydashed4205
@tommydashed4205 Год назад
That literally doesn't matter at all. In game adjustments and player performance are far more impactful. You just played an entire season running your playbook. Doesn't matter which one it is, the other team knows it regardless.
@kingclutch1978
@kingclutch1978 Год назад
@@tommydashed4205Thats a stupid response
@KingJudah1701
@KingJudah1701 Год назад
@tommydashed4205 bro with all due respect you sound stupid...the point was the Spurs didn't have to make any adjustments because Mike Brown had Lebron and the Cavs running the Spurs playbook...no excuses they lost its on dude resume but hearing these clowns get on panels and don't put context in is ridiculous
@_lamar5059
@_lamar5059 Год назад
He also said Big Z shot threes and he actually didn’t 😂. That team was just flawed and Bron couldn’t save them anymore
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Год назад
Lebron isnt even top 5 all time…i have him around #8-#9 alltime. This isnt even a real debate…its manufactured.
@adnanojd
@adnanojd Год назад
MJ is still the only player to win Regular season all star and finals MVPs and a championship in the same season
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
All media voted stuff. What Jorsexual use as points in arguments is crazy😂😂
@godsgrace00
@godsgrace00 Год назад
Not true Giannis, Hakeem did that too, winning Mvp and dpoy
@godsgrace00
@godsgrace00 Год назад
@@beery6659 read it wrong bro i apologize
@frandonfrank10
@frandonfrank10 Год назад
Lebron lost to San Antonio in 2007 Because San Antonio was a superior team.
@Slyme1big
@Slyme1big Год назад
And 2011??
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
No they lost because Lebron avg 22/7/6 35% FG and 5 TO per game
@frandonfrank10
@frandonfrank10 Год назад
@@Slyme1big He choked , as a fan of Lebron. I don't make excuses for 2011.
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 Год назад
Lmaoo goofy , you telling me bron got locked up by plumber Bruce Bowen ? Btw Bron avg 22ppg on 35% fg and 22% 3Pt with 6 turnovers per game , yet most of the games were very winnable, the spurs weren’t blowing out the cavs because the role players stepped up 🤡
@blackprideb1236
@blackprideb1236 Год назад
​@@andresdelportillo9917bruce brown a plumber?
@NycGamer192
@NycGamer192 Год назад
MJ is the Only Superstar in NBA history who doesn't have a bad mark in his playoff resume. Even when he lost he still balled out and lebron has 2007 and 2011 on his resume end of argument 😡😡
@MR12AMAZING
@MR12AMAZING Год назад
2007 doesn't even count against him. OK, he didn't shoot the ball well and was very inefficient but what do you expect when he's literally the only option on offense and he's going up against one of the greatest defensive teams. It's like A.I on those shitty Philly teams. Jordan had a luxury of always having a capable secondary offensive option in Pippen.
@NycGamer192
@NycGamer192 Год назад
@MR12AMAZING 2007 does count towards him because this is the GOAT debate. Him losing in that series is not a knock against Lebron but him being guarded like he was Ben simmons is, when you consider the fact that the person hes up against has never had a black mark like that on his resume.
@flight_knight_
@flight_knight_ Месяц назад
Jordan was making the playoffs with 30 wins. What playoff pressure
@Keepit_100
@Keepit_100 Год назад
MJ SO FLAWLESS Game 4 1985 1st Round vs Bucks. Michael Jordan shoots 37.5% FG and has 4 turnovers to get eliminated. MJ lets SG Paul Pressey average 14.8 PPG, 56.4% FG for the series. Series Results = 1 - 3 ( L ) Did Michael Jordan have a 20 PPG teammate in the series? = YES Game 3 1986 1st Round vs Celtics. Michael Jordan is outscored by both teammates John Paxson and Dave Corzine to get eliminated and Swept. Series Results = 0 - 3 SWEPT ( L ) Did Michael Jordan have a 20 PPG teammate in the series? = YES Game 3 1987 1st round vs Celtics. Michael Jordan Shoots an Inefficient 9 / 30 FG to get eliminated and Swept. Series Results = 0 - 3 SWEPT ( L ) Did Michael Jordan have a 20 PPG teammate in the series? = YES Jordan's First 3 Years Playoff game record without Scottie Pippen = Lost 9 of 10 NBA playoff games Game 5 1988 2nd Round vs Pistons. MJ only scores 4 pts in the 4th quarter as his team gets eliminated. "88 MVP, DPOY G.O.A.T mentality" 1989 Game 5 ECF vs Pistons. Michael Jordan gets outscored in the game by his teammate Craig Hodges, then loses game 6. The Bulls blew a 2 - 1 series lead losing 2 of the next 3 games at home. 1990 on a 55 win team. Michael Jordan gets blown out in game 7 of the 1990 ECF. They will tell you because Jordan played against super teams in the playoffs in the 80s going up against multiple hall of famers. But then will say the 1996 - 1998 Bulls with Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Kukoc = FOUR HALL OF FAMERS playing together and winning rings against inferior competition... "The 1996 to 1998 Bulls team were never a Super team.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
Did MJ lose any playoff series he was favored to win, did MJ lose a playoff series to a team that had less wins than his team, did MJ lose any playoff series when he posted 60 wins in a season??
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
-only time Scottie shot 50% in a season or playoffs were with Jordan as his teammate -Scottie had his highest apg,spg,bpg,and FG% were with Jordan as his teammates. -Scottie highest scoring season with MJ was 21PPG on 50%. That’s 1 point less than his highest season without MJ 22PPG 49% -With MJ against the Knicks, pippen went 5-0, without MJ pippen went 0-1 -in the 94 playoff, his first playoffs without MJ Scottie had his lowest FG% of his career at that point 43% -also in 94 playoffs his lowest apg since his 2nd year in the league. -his best all around playoff seasons were 91,92 and 93 all with MJ -with the bulls his highest rpg, apg,spg,bpg, and FG% in the playoffs were with Jordan as his teammate. -his highest scoring playoff season without Jordan was 22.8 on 43% -his highest scoring playoff season with Jordan was 21.6 on 50.4%
@Michael-vw4cg
@Michael-vw4cg Год назад
@@judahmourneth3211y’all talking like MJ carried a bunch of bums to chips lmfao you’re so lost bro
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
@@Michael-vw4cgnobody’s acting like nothing and nobody said that. But there’s a reason why they lost in 94. That 30PPG was missing
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 Год назад
Ain’t bron shoot 34%fg and 20% 3Pt in the 2007 finals against plumber Bruce Bowen ?
@Wedarealsinnas
@Wedarealsinnas Год назад
why nobody talk about when the cavs made the 07 finals the cavs played two negative teams in the first 2 rounds😂
@ScoutsHonor.
@ScoutsHonor. Год назад
When you look at field goal attempts Jordan vs Bron. Bron scored 1’000 more points. Off Jordan’s 24000+ shot attempts.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
How many 3 point attempts Lebron took
@Turnerlb3
@Turnerlb3 Год назад
@@judahmourneth3211 And from where on the court is he taking the 2-pointers?
@ScoutsHonor.
@ScoutsHonor. Год назад
@@judahmourneth3211 it’s 1000 more points. Lol that would change the argument? It shouldn’t cause y’all sat Bron can’t shoot 3’s. Jordan was shooting 24-27 shots a game in his prime.. imagine how many more points Lebron would have with that many shot attempts on average. Lol
@freesoulbrandon
@freesoulbrandon Год назад
LeBron missed over 1,500 & counting more shots than Jordan too, despite the fact that he shot 2,000 less shots. He’s also by far & away the turnover leader in NBA history with over 400 more than Karl Malone who played 55 more games than LeBron to this point.
@ScoutsHonor.
@ScoutsHonor. Год назад
@@freesoulbrandon smooth brained argument.
@barnardkemp9693
@barnardkemp9693 Год назад
Those are facts ticket TV every time LeBron James lose a playoff series is always because of LeBron James poor play. Then he use his favorite excuse that he didn’t have enough help.🤔🤔🤔🤔
@NarutoManiac300
@NarutoManiac300 Год назад
Lebron fans love the longevity argument then get mad when you call them out on only using the longevity argument lmao
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Год назад
Because theyre clueless, child minded men.
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 Год назад
The only flaw Jordan had was when his fucking team was not worth passing too. We all know he could have came into the league averaging Magic Johnson numbers if he wanted to and had people that could actually score the ball on his team😂
@ant_boy_spice4400
@ant_boy_spice4400 Год назад
That’s always been my biggest argument for Jordan over bron. Bron has weaknesses that made him loose
@Rayne35
@Rayne35 Год назад
Pause on that ran a train at the end
@xxXI_Am_67Xxx
@xxXI_Am_67Xxx Год назад
I’m not a big fan of Jordan nor lebron but I honestly feel like Jordan will always edge lebron in certain things. MJ has more overall success, influence over the game, better selling sneakers, more of the clutch gene in his DNA and most importantly a more all round game than bron (offensively). Now lebron over takes Jordan in points, has more individual accomplishments, better as a playmaker, and has lasted longer than Jordan. What puts Jordan first honestly is rings and the fact he led a well constructed team to the finals vs lebron hand picking superstars to ship over to his team and become scapegoats when he fails. Say what you will but that’s why Jordan is above lebron in the conversation
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 Год назад
LeBron doesn't have more Individual awards bro. MJ has more MVP, Finals MVP DPOTY, first team all Defensive team.
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Cherry picking stats it’s laughable what people say😂🤣
@xxXI_Am_67Xxx
@xxXI_Am_67Xxx Год назад
@@Hazz1405 but lebron actually does. More double doubles, more triples, he’s averaged better defensive stats in the regular and playoff seasons. Lebron is going on to be a 20 time all star vs Jordan’s 14. 20 time all nba team appearances too. Him and Jordan are tied for 9 all defensive team appearances. Like they neck and neck but lebron has achieved more than Jordan. It isn’t by a crazy margin but he has. Accept the facts
@vixy2424
@vixy2424 Год назад
@@beery6659 lebron have more steals
@vixy2424
@vixy2424 Год назад
@@xxXI_Am_67Xxx a more all around offensive game really this is crazy to me playmaking is apart of the offense, lebron is a way better three point shooter if we go by efficiency, lebron have more him pressure and get to the basket better, having a team build round you and joining a team is basically the same thing Jordan recruited players who was beating him, lebron joined teams that was not making the playoffs and getting bounce out of the first and second round when lebron join the heat they almost had a losing record it was around 43 wins before he joined but after he joined they was 50+ win team, when he rejoin the Cavs they had a losing record with like 36 wins and then after he join they became a 50 win team and was making the conference finals and when he join the Lakers the first season it was a bunch of rookies and they was trying to lose but when lebron pushed that they needed a next star they won the same season they got Anthony Davis, when Jordon left the bulls to play baseball they make it to the conference finals both years so saying Jordan was the only one on his team or that they had a losing record is a lie so the difference is when lebron leaves a team they became a high school team but when Jordan leaves a team they are still a top 3 team
@deezy6984
@deezy6984 Год назад
MJ is eons better than Lebron! Bron is great don’t get me wrong but MJ peak is unmatched! He accomplished more in less years also. It’s really hard to beat!!
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance Год назад
Far superior than no-jumper James!
@GapGod78
@GapGod78 Год назад
The person who leads the nba in all time scoring is the same person that leads the nba in all time turnovers as well. And next year will pass Kobe for most missed field goals all time in history
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Год назад
When u count FTs and playoffs, Lebron has already missed the most shots in NBA history.
@josephparise1287
@josephparise1287 Год назад
Chill said Lebron stopped Tim Duncan and Kevin Durant from winning a championship…………….
@tommydashed4205
@tommydashed4205 Год назад
Lebron shoots mid 30s in 3 pt percentage on wide open shots. Thats why people let him shoot. 90% of his 3s are uncontested. Edit: Woah. Lebron is not even close to what magic was LOL. He's more like an evolved Karl Malone in that his game is a lot like Karl's but then he added the playmaking in. Just because a guy can make plays doesn't make him like Magic.
@frankincensemerchant1284
@frankincensemerchant1284 Год назад
Magic wasn't a great shooter, also playmaking was Magic's bread and buttter the compariaons do have validity eventhough I have Magic as the GOAT in playmaking.
@chousan1024
@chousan1024 Год назад
imo it's not playmaking when you hold/dribble the ball until there's 8 seconds left and over-exaggerate a skip pass
@frankincensemerchant1284
@frankincensemerchant1284 Год назад
@@chousan1024 No one said that's playmaking the problem is one thinks that's all what LBJ does which is frankly false to say the least.
@sonnywoods6846
@sonnywoods6846 Год назад
Lebron did not stop Tim Duncan from winning rings. TIm Won 2 rings Beating LeBron! WTF is CHill Town talking about! Kevin Durant won 2 rings on Lebron WTF! Did he not understand the question?
@justified004
@justified004 Год назад
Im so with Domo on why this GOAT debate between these 2 is pointless. I've always compared LBJ to Magic more than MJ and Kobe to Jordan instead. They also played their primes in 2 completely different eras which makes comparing them ridiculous. Jordan didn't have to face the rampant athleticism and skill of today's game. While LeBron didn't have to face the physicality and toughness of Jordan's league. So why compare the 2 when its not on equal standing. Also, the way people discuss the topic never makes sense because they bad mouth the other player like he is garbage and not one of the best. Not to mention, you'll never change the mind of any MJ or LeBron defender by bashing their guy. Its like people comparing each other children and no one is picking against the kid.
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Ain’t reading all that shit. Legoat betta
@johnhancock1362
@johnhancock1362 Год назад
@@negusknight7918most bron fans can’t read
@justified004
@justified004 Год назад
@@negusknight7918 that exactly what I'm talking about. I ain't mad you you for saying he is because I get but I disagree
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
⁠@@johnhancock1362didn’t say I couldn’t. Typical of jorsexuals to not understand English
@tommydashed4205
@tommydashed4205 Год назад
Lebron isn't like Magic. Not every guy who can make plays is Magic Johnson. Magic is a guy who primarily made plays by getting his teammates into better positions. Lebron primarily makes plays for himself and warps the defense into putting his guys in better positions. In the end he still takes 20 shots a game.
@zionn9246
@zionn9246 Год назад
Saying bron is the reason they lost in 2007 is absurd he was the reason they made it to the finals. But Ticket is lying as usual
@real-timerami5041
@real-timerami5041 Год назад
Lebron's game is eerily similar to Giannis' game, they both just build up a full head of steam and run down the lane to score, both are poor free throw and mid range shooters. The difference is Giannis is big man and he rebounds and defends to the highest level, yet they easily get exposed in the playoffs when it comes to perimeter shots and free throws. Jordan is 6'6 and yet his post game is 1000x better than Lebrons post game, he is also better at playing off the ball and getting to his spots quicker and more effectively and because of this he could play with two or 3 non floor spacers at the same time (i.e Rodman and Luc Longley). Scottie Pippen alongside Jordan was able to flourish his game and completely expand it, unlike Kevin Love who has one of the most all around unique and valuable skillsets as a post player and passer but since he was playing with Lebron he was practically dumbed down to a catch and shoot player. All of this is obvious but I already know there is going to be an influx of Lebron fanboys calling me a hater.
@UFunnyLowe
@UFunnyLowe Год назад
No hating shit but k love role was diminished cause Kyrie needed the ball so he could put the ball in the hoop
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Ain’t reading that shit. Legoat way betta
@frankincensemerchant1284
@frankincensemerchant1284 Год назад
​@@UFunnyLoweThat's often forgotten Love was a 3rd option behind two ball dominant players. I would've liked to see LBj and Love in their primes together don't think it reaches the heights of 2020 LeBron and AD though.
@SmokeRichBiggs
@SmokeRichBiggs Год назад
😂😂😂😂you have not watched lebron play basketball
@frankincensemerchant1284
@frankincensemerchant1284 Год назад
The Giannis is a bit of reaching. While LeBron Free Throws aren't the greatest it is still respectable around the same as Hakeem and Tim so sending him to the free throw line wasn't like sending Shaq or Giannis. Also in terms of his long range shooting he has improved over his career.
@JS-nd1po
@JS-nd1po 3 месяца назад
I never saw MJ stand around on defense, never seen MJ walk off court with time on click, never seen MJ stand around waiting for an open shot, never seen MJ flop.
@kidking___________________7554
Man if you like Jordan you like Jordan and if you like lebron you like lebron who cares why do we always have to knock one to uplift the other one
@MegaKhalid121
@MegaKhalid121 Год назад
Preach
@real-timerami5041
@real-timerami5041 Год назад
No one is just trying to knock one but when you pretend like they are close or equal then the line has to be drawn, let's not be delusional and act as if Lebron's glaring weaknesses are on the same level as Jordan's.
@dxtremecaliber
@dxtremecaliber Год назад
Well we are comparing the two so we need to knock the one and the other and LeBron’s weaknesses is much worse than Jordan’s even tho in fact Jordan have no weakness none nein
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Faxxx, but legoat is still better than jorplumber
@kingclutch1978
@kingclutch1978 Год назад
@@dxtremecaliberDickriding Jordan, he has weaknesses, cut that shit out
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 Год назад
The bronsexuals on this show getting mad because the truth hurts LOL
@DJ-ys9pv
@DJ-ys9pv Год назад
I think the fact that MJ started out having to ramp up and then having to take breaks and having a hard decline is why I have Lebron over him. Y’all can say longevity doesn’t matter but it’s actually the only thing more difficult than having a great peak is sustaining that peak or as close to it as you can over time. 2 rings and 2 FMVP and 1 regular season MVP isn’t enough for me to put Mike over Lebron when you consider how close they are with either Mike or Lebron having the edge. Seeing as the longevity battle isn’t close I give it to Lebron despite Mike having the slightly better peak.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
Micheal Jordan in (667 games) pre retirement. 1984-1993 3 rings (6 total) 3 NBA MVPs (5 total) 3 FMVPS (6 total) 7 scoring title (10 total) 3 steal Titles DPOTY Lebron James Career (1311 games) 4 rings 4 NBA MVPs 4 FMVPs 1 scoring title 1 assist title Jordan arguable did more in 9 years than lebron did his whole career.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
Let’s kill that take real quick
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance Год назад
​@@judahmourneth3211let this sink in for these Bron fans
@suntansuperman26
@suntansuperman26 Год назад
Lol so the player who accomplished more in less time is worse because he ain’t play 20 seasons at a sustainable great level? Here’s the thing Jordan didn’t need to play 20 to achieve what he did, LeBron had to play 20 and is even going beyond that and still playing catch-up
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance Год назад
Done more in less time. J is a hall of frame career ahead
@lex6794
@lex6794 Год назад
The Jordan fan is kicking out straight up lies. He is the sole reason they lost against the pistons. Lamber said it the best we knew he would not pass. So when he came in the lane, we put him on his but. That's how we won. It wasn't until phil jackson came that Got him to stop being such a ball hog and pass and play in the triangle. Jordan also needed a legendary coach in the nba and college. Lebron never needed that. Also Players formed super teams to beat lebron and to go against him. Nobody did that for Jordan. Jordan also Couldn't win in the eighties Cuz of the dynasties, in the nineties there were no dynasties but his own. Full of expansion teams, and one hall of famer teams jordan never had great competition.
@WuiggiWRLD
@WuiggiWRLD Год назад
LEBRON IN THE PLAYOFFS 1st in points all time, 1st in mins, 1ST in FGM 3rd in 3pm, 4th in rebounds, 2nd in assists, 1st in steal and 10th in blocks 🚫 THERES NOONE ELSE THAT CAN DO THAT 2:07
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
He’s played 100 years
@tacoreybaldwin1513
@tacoreybaldwin1513 Год назад
​@@judahmourneth3211naw 20 years 75 more games then kobe
@keithmitchell8372
@keithmitchell8372 Год назад
He's 6th in blocks
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 Год назад
Glazer
@Gmacshow
@Gmacshow Год назад
He only passed mj in points because he played longer and mj still has the highest average all time fact. 2nd mj 11.4 assists per game in final series the last player in history to do that. Who is top 5 in steals all time mj do you want me to continue.
@_lamar5059
@_lamar5059 Год назад
Lmao Bron was the reason he lost in 07 ???? Terrible man
@ImbetterthanDWade
@ImbetterthanDWade Год назад
He shot 35% FG and 20% 3pt splits
@_lamar5059
@_lamar5059 Год назад
@@ImbetterthanDWade anyone with a clear mind would know that team had no chance even if Lebron was a shooter. But cap on KD
@bboywolf
@bboywolf Год назад
Domo logic: "I cant bring up anything up substance for this argument so i wont bring it up anymore!!" Being the goat of an era doesn't make you a candidate for the greatest. You cant change people's mind with emotions. You need evidence. 2009-2011 is why the goat debate isnt real lol And lebron james is nowhere near an evolution of magic johnson. Lebron is a score first player. Mix of karl malone body size with scottie pippen offense. Way more reliable scorer than scottie but worse shooter than malone.
@Michael-vw4cg
@Michael-vw4cg Год назад
2009-2011 when Lebron was 25,26,27?😂😂😂😂 you’re hilarious my guy, what did MJ do in his first few years in the league?
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Ain’t reading al that
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM Год назад
@@negusknight7918 JJ Barea
@keyceandreas9254
@keyceandreas9254 Год назад
NOBODY, I’m confident in saying NOBODY, will have a better case than Lebron to go over Jordan as the GOAT. So unfortunately this conversation will most likely forever be Jordan v Bron or no conversation at all. Kareem of course will be there, but even that convo gets shot down pretty quickly.
@josephschmizzo1595
@josephschmizzo1595 Год назад
Lebron isnt even top 5 all time 😂. Kobe’s way better, Steph’s way better, Hakeem’s way better, Larry Bird’s way better, Magic’s way better etc.
@shivumagarwal
@shivumagarwal Год назад
Lebron can't be top 10 with his superteaming, stad padding, steroid abusing, and ref rigging . He has 0 legitimate championships so he's gotta win a ring before even having this discussion lol
@frandonfrank10
@frandonfrank10 Год назад
That is a dumb a** reason to keep him out of the top 10. clown 🤡
@Michael-vw4cg
@Michael-vw4cg Год назад
Lmfao I understand not thinking bron isnt #1 but to claim he’s not top 10 in next level trolling 😂😂😂😂
@jon-fn7ob
@jon-fn7ob Год назад
Agreed
@justified004
@justified004 Год назад
Wow. This is trolling and hating on a whole new level. You don't recognize him as the GOAT, fine, but to disregard everything to this degree is just basketball ignorance. Also the PEDs conspiracy needs to stop. Ya'll act like this man didn't come out of high school 6'9" and 265 lbs at 18. Some people are just blessed genetically and when you throw in 100s of millions of dollars it's easy to see why he has been a physical freak.
@shivumagarwal
@shivumagarwal Год назад
@@justified004 keep menstruating bronsexual 😂
@Atmtoc
@Atmtoc Год назад
Lol this would be a easy cook session Cause all type of context are left out these convos 😊
@WuiggiWRLD
@WuiggiWRLD Год назад
LEBRON THE GOAT, he changed his game with the eras, HE LOVES BASKETBALL MORE THAN MJ. we have never seen such a comple player dominate for so long. He can do whatever he needs you to on the court. He's a better coach than most in the league, 3-1. AND HE HAS THE MOST UNSTOPPABLE MOVE THE LEFUCKYOU 3
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 Год назад
Ain’t bron shoot 7-26 from 3Pt against Denver ? The GOAT tho with no weaknesses
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
Cook
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
@@andresdelportillo9917didn’t jorbozo only score 5 point in a 3 pt contest. Imagine losing to Kevin hart
@True-Believer616
@True-Believer616 Год назад
Man, sit down with that nonsense. Y'all look bad with this foolishness. James is a deck stacker, a multiple finals loser, a Flopper for goodness sake, a choker and a constant excuse maker. Got the nerve to call himself the greatest. What a load of self propping BS. The true goat never did that and doesn't need to. This is laughable but y'all go ahead and keep getting laughed at.
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 Год назад
@@negusknight7918 ain’t bron drop 8 points on jj barea ?
@bdonell38
@bdonell38 Год назад
MJ, Kobe >> LeBron for life
@kingmisogyny1852
@kingmisogyny1852 Месяц назад
Imaginr taking a guy with a british accent seriously when it comes to Basketball.
@jasonwood8023
@jasonwood8023 Год назад
On court, James is more flawed. Off court, MJ more flawed.
@dezcaughtit316
@dezcaughtit316 Год назад
Ticket was cooking
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 Год назад
Can somebody tell me how lebron is more skilled if he had to go to Hakeem to learn post moves after being in the NBA for a decade? LOL
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Год назад
Lebron does nothing as poorly as MJ shot the 3. He's the fourth worst 3 point shooter in nba history at 28.8% on more than 1000 attempts. He has FIVE seasons under 20%. His career % is inflated by a shorter line. Dude shot 28% from 3. thats WAYYYYY worse than 74% from the line.
@martelljhixson
@martelljhixson 11 месяцев назад
They was quiet when ticket had support from R RATED lol....Never addressed the points made, just "I cant convice you" or "you cant compare" lol
@Pickens14
@Pickens14 Год назад
Dude in the middle is just Tickets cheerleader, his opinion is just straight hate and can’t take him serious
@TheReBrandNetwork
@TheReBrandNetwork Год назад
So they celebrate Jordan for losing to the super team Celtics when he balled out, but knock Lebron for losing to the warriors
@jonz23m
@jonz23m Год назад
Jordan had a picture perfect ending at the highest peak with a game winning shot in 2nd three peat. He literally had nothing else to prove. Jordan is like the gifted straight A student who graduated with honors in record time. Lebron is the A- student who has to study hard and put extra time in to graduate in overtime.
@TopTierHater
@TopTierHater Год назад
lebron>>mj because i just like lebron more🤷🏾‍♂️
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 Год назад
Incoming bronsexual fans MJ is the real goat and isn’t 4-6 in the finals don’t @ me
@GregoryKeller
@GregoryKeller Год назад
Lebron is 100% the reason the Cavs lost to the spurs in 2007. Every game but 1 in that 4 game sweep was decided by single digits. If Lebron does better than 22/7/7 on atrocious efficiency the Cavs at least push it to 6
@AfroTsu
@AfroTsu Год назад
What ever moon is saying he’s capping talking about bron not being confident in his ability to shoot when there’s literally video evidence of that man shooting from deep early in his career if he wasn’t confident then there wouldn’t be a 20 min video of him doing that 😂😂😂
@joshjones9749
@joshjones9749 Год назад
Sticking to the main question the more flawed game is Lebron. With a bullet. MJ was doing way too many different things offensively AND defensively at the highest level to say otherwise.
@Kuzkia
@Kuzkia Год назад
Mj only had one weakness and that was being too great
@AfroTsu
@AfroTsu Год назад
So mj flaws early in his game then lose him series ? Lmao huh did mj win 15 straight chips ? Wtf is he talking about
@user-kb4vz9yv9w
@user-kb4vz9yv9w 2 месяца назад
Lebron is the goat for degree of difficulty. Coming straight out of high school, beating dynasty teams (spurs, warriors), over coming 3-1 deficit to beat most winningest team, going to the finals all those times, winning with 3 different rookie head coaches, …on and on!!!! Mike just won with the best team and beat coach. We saw MJ before Phil and after Phil win nothing!
@lamontewilliams203
@lamontewilliams203 2 месяца назад
This is a stupid argument. MJ is far better than LBJ which is proven by way of Jordan's various stat sheets and his finals and Olympic results. All of Jordan's stat sheets are different which means Jordan did what needed to be done to win the series. LBJ has great stats as well, but he normally gives you the same stats for every series.
@dhruvudayshankar7531
@dhruvudayshankar7531 Год назад
MJ is 1-9 in playoff games without scottie pippen. Bron took the 2007 and 2018 cavs to the finals and lost to 2 of the greatest dynasties of all time. Case closed.
@ImbetterthanDWade
@ImbetterthanDWade Год назад
And Iverson took a bunch of accountants to the Finals in a weak eastern conference too… that doesn’t make him better than MJ lol.
@cesar_malca1224
@cesar_malca1224 Год назад
Rated R Sports cooked chill
@mylaughingeffect3459
@mylaughingeffect3459 Год назад
A Nigga that said fake longevity is cookin. Yeah u new kids is clowns🤣🤣🤣
@twinman3539
@twinman3539 Год назад
Jordan was definitely the reason why the Bulls loss early on. Jordan refusal to play team ball was the many reasons they got swept all those years.
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance Год назад
Some truth there.. but he simply didn't have an Allstar supporting cast like Bird or even Isaiah
@patcisz3474
@patcisz3474 Год назад
I would much rather be the guy that put up as many points as he could to help his team win even if they lose than be the guy that was overly passive and averaged a pathetic 17 points in a series his team lost and was completely blamed for it like Lebron in 2011 against Dallas who were a much inferior team to the 80s Celtics
@patcisz3474
@patcisz3474 Год назад
@@beery6659 it is disgraceful this new generation is so stupid and have no idea how great Jordan was
@suntansuperman26
@suntansuperman26 Год назад
Wait let me get this straight, LeBron gets the benefit of the doubt for losing with a bad team but Jordan gets the blame for losing with a bad team
@G-ROCK1021
@G-ROCK1021 Год назад
It’s ridiculous to have the argument because people are conditioned to die on the sword for mike. Like bro they 1 and 2 in my book lol. Bron is 1 to me if you say it’s Jordan okay🤷🏾‍♂️. But you can tell when people go outta they way to act like Lebron wasn’t a fuckin dog. Once I see you get to lying and being one sided you got it🤷🏾‍♂️
@pioneered4722
@pioneered4722 Год назад
I think the flaw argument can work both ways. Bc great players fix flaws to become greater. Period!
@Goatfan2k
@Goatfan2k Год назад
Not true Lebron still has some flaws free throw lack of clutch at moments passing too much horrible midrange even though it slightly got better still wasn’t that great and not reliable his three point percentage this year was horrendous his paint shot attempt and percent flopping
@pioneered4722
@pioneered4722 Год назад
@@Goatfan2k you just talking to talk. This season was bad 3pt wise but look at previous seasons where he shot good from the three. Everybody has a down year from 3 at some point. He literally is the most clutch shooter in nba history. You sound dumb. Don’t know what you’re talking about
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 7 месяцев назад
Ben Simmons could learn a thing or two
@pioneered4722
@pioneered4722 6 месяцев назад
@@Goatfan2kthat lack of clutch argument has been debunked over and over again. Y’all LeBron haters will say anything.
@Goatfan2k
@Goatfan2k 6 месяцев назад
@pioneered4722 what lebron shots 19 percent in clutch situation and plus that just shooting do you know how many time lebron miss free throw in a clutch especially the regular and playoff you just at shot attempt don't even look at free-throw lebron miss many frethrow in the clutch I don't even know how I am a lebron hater when I have him as the 2nd best player in history plus you don't know so to label me as a lebron hater is wild
@sweetchilliheat4559
@sweetchilliheat4559 Год назад
Another Jordan v lbj debate🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂😂
@ogkrereactions4183
@ogkrereactions4183 Год назад
The bias is crazy for Jordan
@optimusupreme
@optimusupreme Год назад
The ticket dudes basketball knowledge is 🚮
@24Jabba
@24Jabba Год назад
Longevity was always praised until lebron conquered it..
@nickfrancis2008
@nickfrancis2008 Год назад
No it was always diminished i.e Stockton
@MegaKhalid121
@MegaKhalid121 Год назад
@@nickfrancis2008Stockton’s longevity is the main reason why he’s a top 10 pg what
@negusknight7918
@negusknight7918 Год назад
@@nickfrancis2008longevity and Stockton doesn’t not belong together 😂😂😂
@suntansuperman26
@suntansuperman26 Год назад
No tf it wasn’t, you’re just making things up at this moment
@demonreacts7816
@demonreacts7816 4 месяца назад
8:44 is he fuckin serious with that question?…
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Год назад
so MJ losing series due to his flaws dont matter because he didnt even make the finals. but Lebrons flaws matter because he made the finals.
@RichHoopsNba
@RichHoopsNba 3 месяца назад
HOW ARE YOU A PUPPY IN YEAR 8 ???? lmfao wtf in his prime it’s sick
@samcool4350
@samcool4350 4 месяца назад
Jordan in the three point contest only put up 5 points.
@marcusbrady5414
@marcusbrady5414 Год назад
Chill rebuttals with he’s the leading scorer to who goes under the screen lol he definitely bias
@huhmf4815
@huhmf4815 Год назад
Who compares mj getting beat in the first around to LBJ losing the finals at 22? An ticket talking out his ass so is Mook seriously the hate in LBJ is real. They think everyone can be jordan not even kobe could pull it off.
@zenxen7005
@zenxen7005 Год назад
The comment section is filled with casuals and oldheads.
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM Год назад
Sorry the stats aren’t on your side lol.
@NajeeTheChosenOne
@NajeeTheChosenOne Год назад
Deadass
@zenxen7005
@zenxen7005 Год назад
@@NothingElseMattersJM bro just proved my point.
@ImbetterthanDWade
@ImbetterthanDWade Год назад
@@zenxen7005 Lebron shot 35% FG and 20% 3pt in a final series
@PyrexWipper_
@PyrexWipper_ Год назад
Mood disgusting for bringing that up @7:20 🤦🏾‍♂️ shit like that make it hard to watch
@Reallybruh99
@Reallybruh99 3 месяца назад
You couldn’t play zone when Jordan played.
@suaveeze
@suaveeze Год назад
They acting like lebron longevity is the same as undonis haslem. Lebron is still top 10-15
@Kingtutt414
@Kingtutt414 Год назад
The only argument in this debate is winning/losing it’s pathetic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@LilRod2
@LilRod2 Год назад
Chill ssid demar derozan is a superstar, the dementia is kicking in
@RichHoopsNba
@RichHoopsNba 3 месяца назад
chill got smoked this man said his 35% from outside the restricted area don’t matter cause against TORONTO he hit a fall away jumper …. shut up guy
@lex6794
@lex6794 Год назад
Jordan cant shoot 3s, Jordan cant Give you twelve rebounds on any given night, Jordan rarely took over a game passing, Jordan couldn't cover power forwards or pick up a center on a switch, Jordan couldn't play multiple positions offensively or defensively. Jordan Needed a hall of fame head coach and college coach to win, jordan also had to go to college. Lebron can checks all those boxes, that Jordan can't.
@lmnoph
@lmnoph Год назад
Lebron got outscored by Jason terry in the finals 😂😂
@lex6794
@lex6794 Год назад
@@lmnoph Gary Payton held Jordan to 26ppg on 46% shooting in the Finals. Oh yeah Lebron still rebounded and assisted against dalls, Jordan got shut down because he doesn't do much else.😇😁
@lmnoph
@lmnoph Год назад
@@lex6794 lol. The bulls won and Miami lost so what’s your point.😂😂.
@traviousnelson3651
@traviousnelson3651 Год назад
That’s cap Jordan was the reason they lost to Orlando he was tired and turned the ball over at key moments
@jasonmardoniomeza1711
@jasonmardoniomeza1711 9 месяцев назад
Bron still doesnt know how to play off the ball. He is limited in the post. Hes not a great free throw shooter. He does not have a go to move to create space for a last second shot. Hes not a good shooter from mid range. These are flaws that Lebron still has today after 21 years in the league. Bron was good when dribbling the ball up the court with space and driving to the basket dipping his shoulder into the dfender using his size and strength to bump the guy off him and then scoring with a dunk or layup. But thats it! Hes a poor leader in pressure situations. Makes excuses like ive been playing this Finals with a broke hand. The flopping?? Cmon man!!
@sweetchilliheat4559
@sweetchilliheat4559 Год назад
It’s funny people call Lebron a loser when he’s won more playoff series than anybody’s else in the last 20 -25 years hes won 40 playoff series. Tim Duncan 35, Kobe has 33, shaq has 32, curry has 23 etc.
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