Putting Javi’s season 3 into clementine’s storyline kind of weird, but if it’s an independent story it is actually a good season, I think Javier only got mentioned once in season 4
@@Real_creatorindeed ignore the clem comic at all costs, it is only canon to sky bound and the writer. If they continue the story in a game then the clementine comic can’t be canon or else the game will be practically ruined.
Ok these are the goats🐐The boat master himself salt lik girl urban guy girl got shoot in the head romance or romance and kid who killed Marlon. It means Kenny Clem Lee Carley Louis Violet and AJ those are the 🐐🗿
L. Strength:Lee Lee managed to strangle a grown man to death while fatigued. Lee also lifted a door with walkers on it. Lee also managed to push a vehicle on his own S. Strength:Javi Javi completely destroyed Badger's skull with a few baseball bat swings and can completely decapitate walkers with ease T. Speed:Javi Javi was able to outrun everyone in the train tunnel, including comic Paul C. Speed:Javi Javi was able to blitz a new frontier soldiers while being held at gunpoint R. Speed:Clem Clementine can react to compound bow arrow shots Reflexes:Javi Javi was able to evade a speeding car while inhaling tear gas Durability:Kenny Took multiple hits to the head and still managed to tank the hits which would kill the average human. Kenny also survived a full force car crash and even survived getting thrown through a car windshield Endurance:Lee Lee managed to cut off his arm, endure multiple walker bites and a gunshot wound Stamina:Lee Lee was able to fight a large numbers of walkers for hrs while on the verge of death Agility:Clementine Clementine is seen climbing walls and jumping across building roofs casually H2H:Lee is able to go up against a skilled Weapon specialist like Molly and he's able to take her down in less than a minute. He's also naturally a good fighter even without training or experience Melee combat:Javi -Javi manages to disarm and kill new frontier soldiers with various melee weapons while fighting them head on Combat skill:Kenny or clem Kenny is able to disarm a skilled, smart and agile Weapon specialist such as Jane, he's also able to throw hands with Lee (Determinate). Clementine is able to disable a member of the delta quickly, she also easily overpowered violet and fought Abel head on. Iq:Lee Lee is an extremely strategic thinker and was a history professor. Battle iq:Clementine Clementine has led the kids at Ericson's boarding school and she manages to come up with strategies to beat the delta Skills:Clementine -Hunting -Scavenging -Driving -Gun skills -bow skills -Melee skills -Leadership -Strategy Experience:Clementine Clementine has 9yrs of experience surviving in the apocalypse Feats:Clementine Fought the delta Led Ericson's boarding school Fought against the new frontier Gundowned multiple enemies Killed multiple walkers Leadership:Lee or clem Both are great leaders and have put their lives on the line to lead and protect their allies Allies:Javi Leads or is part of the new frontier Weapons:Clementine -handgun -Shotgun -Ak47 -Bow & Arrow -Knife -Hatchet -Axe -Piller -Baseball bat Aim/Accuracy:Clem Clementine continously wins gun fights against delta soldiers with a bow & arrow Gun duel:Javi Javi managed to gundown multiple new frontier soldiers on his own Stealth:Clementine She's able to sneak past hordes and groups of walkers, she knows how to blend in with walkers by either covering herself in walker guts or wearing a walker mask Kill count:Clementine Clementine has killed more humans and more walkers Overall:Debatable between Javi and Clementine Clementine low-mid diffs Kenny Clementine high diffs Lee Clementine = Javier Javi low-mid diffs Kenny Javi high diffs Lee Javi = Clementine Lee mid diffs Kenny Clementine low-mid diffs Kenny Javi low-mid diffs Kenny
First of all,for real ? Molly and Jane skilled fighters ? 😂 Javier fought against Jesus and David >>>Molly and Jane +those proofs are biased clearly,you never played a new frontier
@@twdtelltaleeditsyou gotta be trolling. I played new frontier and I tell you javier is only winning if it’s all out war. H2H he gets mopped. In a 1 on 1 gunfight, he gets mopped. In an all weapons fight, he might get mopped high diff. Not to mention that Javier lost to David. David almost murdered him if it wasn’t for clementine holding him gunpoint Javi fs woulda died
@@twdtelltaleeditsnot to mention in the “fight” against jesus the only reason he was able to hold off was because of his friends being armed. Jesus was solo. Lee, Kenny, and clementine had beaten and killed many people without any type of help
@@610_Chxp "h2h gets wooped" Fought against Jesus and David,top 3 strongest characters, David needed a wrench to defeat Javier,but Lee fought Molly and Kenny 🤡 Jesus and David >>> Molly and Kenny "gun duel gets whooped" Killed all new frontier soldiers with a handgun while the rest of them had ak-47s and special equipment but Lee killed the bandits 🤡 And Kenny the Russians 🤡 Im tired of yall overrating Lee Kenny and Clementine because they are the main protagonist and underrating Javier Because he is the protagonist of the worst seasons,biased...
@@twdtelltaleedits david tackled javier. With or without wrench, javier was not winning that. Molly snatched lee’s weapon out his hand and the game gives you bout 2-3 seconds before you are able to take her down. Lee gets shot and still was able to kill a man with one arm. Lee was able to hold off andrew solo whilst being pushed mere inches from an electric fence.
Tbf he only died cus of plot... And becuase Clem needed saving I mena he was litreally abmushed by the walker and tbh he still had some pretty sick reaction time I know charachters from both the game and seris who would've died from that walker
Kenny is the worst leader due to his lack of emotional control. Lee was the wisest, but Clementine carries that same level of wisdom with her experiences. So she's the best leader. Javier may also be just as good, but we don't really get to see him in action on that front.
@@tronovonflidder775 He was a really good leader if you see his choices in season 2 with a cold head and ignoring the framing of the plot trying to make him look crazy. He was pretty much right in every decision he made, its just that luke's group is fucking dumb
Lee gets speed, agility and combat speed because in his fight with molly he can pin her down and molly is really fast with her punches because you can hardly beat her plus she is martial arts
Speed and agility has no importance to what you said Molly is not martial arts 😂 Just because she can parkour doesent mean that,idk where u people got that...
@@twdtelltaleedits when molly and lee fought molly sent Kenny on the ground with ease just because Javier is a baseball player doesn’t me he can just get agility anyone can hit a ball
@@twdtelltaleeditsbro and I think you it kinda biased because you gave Javier weapons because he has all of Richmond like that’s not a weapon we’re talking about like guns Not people. His main weapon is a bat while the others are guns
He gets durability because he can survive Molly's blow to his head and survive a base falling on his head even when he is starting to become a zombie too. He even endured with a cut off arm to get to clementine and can still survive if he gets bitten by walkers in the process. All of that and still defeated the Stranger while being affected for hours.
@@H.K.5 javi could go toe to toe with David who is a military trained soldier, so hand to hand he beats lee. Shooting is u to either honestly both great shots. Give javi a baseball bat and lee any other melee weapon and javi wins
If Lee survived, i know it's hypothetical. i think he'd be bordline unstoppable and could take all of them at once. He died so early in the apocalypse and he was that good imagine him with 10 years of surviving the apocalypse the monster he would become similar to Rick
I love how Lee and Kenny in this debate edit are in the same exact scene where they’re killing walkers. Obviously Kenny is just a model switch in it though.
Yeah people have to think about that Kenny has never been the main character and still lived longer than Lee plus he was trapped in a room with like 20+ Walkers in the end of season one and he won a fight against a Russian guy that hade a ak 47 Meanwhile he hade only a pistol he is also like around as strong as Lee, Kenny can also take a hit he is also a great leader he never gives up
Lee Everett: -fought through a zombie herd -manage to hold off a door full of zombies -cut his arm -discover that you can walk through zombies by using there blood -kept the group together -choked someone to death when weak -took care of Clementine and showed her how to survive a zombie apocalypse -beat up kenny -kills one of his family members -survive a car crash -kills the cannibals -picks up ben with one arm -fights molly Kenny: -kills carver -kills Jane -kills larry -kills arvo group -takes care of Clementine and aj -dies for Clementine and aj -survive a zombie herd -gets also beaten to death for Clementine -watched his family died but still didn't give up -forgives ben and trys to save him -shot his son -showed Clementine how to drive -leaves Clementine and aj in wellington knowing they be safe there -beats arvo because he did deserve it -both of his wife dies Javier: -fights with his brother -kills the man and his whole group who shot his niece -rizz up eleanor -fights a herd -helps Richmond recover -blocks the herd to not come inside Richmond -saves gabe or his brother whatever you pick -I don't know really whay to say else The new frontier was a bit horrible for me and some people Clementine: -saw her parents dead -kills lee -kills dog -see carver die -did all the work for the group in season 2 -saves Bonnie if you want to -kills Jane or Kenny -fights at the beginning in walking dead in season 2 -sneaks in a house -stitches herself -i do more later im tired
He's also saved a lot of people He tracked down Clementine when she was kidnapped He killed the entire farm family, and even beat one of them to death with his hands while starving mind you He was pretty much the entire body of the group he was in, and the only reason it fell apart was because he didn't want to be leader Managed to fight off bandits and some zombies at the same time when he was starving Pretty much ever feat while in the motor end arc was during starvation
@@koolaidninja6628 3rd one I said he kills cannibals, 4th one I said he kept the group together, he saved like 4 people ben if you wanted to,carley, because doug still dies if you save him,Clementine,larry but he doesn't count because he was already dead and got killed off by kenny and didn't I say I was going to add more later at the end dude that's not a lot of people im not counting the teacher also because he dies lol
soloed a whole herd of zombies, gets bite multiple times and STILL gets to clem, on the edge to dying and still choked a guy to death, holds a door full of zombies close, can take more than 3 zombies at a time, need i say more?
My friend showed this to me to put my opinion on the matter, so amber if you see this. Hope you're doing well, darling 😉 Lee just isn't the strongest physically, he's also got the most willpower out of all them, at least in my playthrough He is honest, kind, considerate, he beat the hell outta Andy but managed to talk Kenny into stopping the train. He also didn't give up on Clementine, he lost his arm and still choked the stranger to Death and didn't give up still guiding Clem with the little to nothing strength he had left, Kenny takes accuracy as he's the best crackshot outta all of em, he's also the toughest among the four being able to take down a beating then having the stamina cuz he was able to get up almost with full energy, speed definitely goes to Javi, so does his melee skills and agility being the former athlete among the four, Clem is an amalgamation of all of them but that doesn't necessarily put her skills above her three father figures/ friends Javi wins in a closeup confrontation, running, moving and being able to use his skills against the others, Lee wins with his strength but it's clear enough that that ain't exactly enough to win, it's like Chuck said "You ain't big, you ain't little, you ain't strong, you ain't smart, you're Alive." Clem & Kenny has the edge when it comes to weapon handling and long distance fights being the more skilled gunfighters & crackshots Overall, Javi just has a lot of edges against the other three so I agree, this is a good edit
I played a scum bag Lee and killed off as many characters as possible, engaged in all available fights and killed as much as possible and tried to go solo but the stupid npc’s wouldn’t listen. I would’ve abandoned clem as a distraction so Lee can live
Durability to Kenny while saying "Can EASILY recover" is a bit off. I mean, dont get me wrong he is more durable than the other protagonists but he cant *easily* recover after getting heavily injured.
No matter what i love only lee.The best sacrificer for clem.For only saving clem he died, a great man in the walking dead history,and the walking dead season 1 is the great in the game history.Lee would be proud of Clementine. Whoever loves Lee give a heart ❤️ for him.
@TelltaleTWDedits yea in a 1v1v1v1 some characters are weaker than others despite being stronger in a 1v1 (a example is like Clem vs kenny, kenny's stronger but he would get almost nothing in a 1v1v1v1 if the right characters are used)
I would. The games are already a glorified TV show, and adapting it to television would mean that they have to choose an actual canon path of choices, which would kind of invalidate a lot of interpretations of the themes and messages from the franchise (but considering how bad some of S2 and 4’s choices can be from a writing perspective, I wouldn’t mind having them struck from existence). And who would want some B-list actor to portray Lee? If it ain’t Dave Fennoy’s beautiful voice, I don’t want nothing to do with it.
Indeed, these features do not have equal points, intelligence, experience, aim and h2h will be very important, intelligence and h2h go to Lee. Now the winner is clear, but if you want proof, not only because he is a history teacher, but also because he is a good manipulator, his interpretation skills are extremely developed, and for h2h, he killed everyone in his path in a zombie army with one arm at his weakest moment. If the order is needed, Lee>Clem>Javier> Kenny
I thought Kenny would put up more of a fight. And you have got to hand it to Clementine, she would make a great character in The walking Dead show. She killed more than a hundred people and walkers.
All im saying (No Bias) is David beat Javi and Lee would beat David plus if they actually did have a fight in the telltale games I cant see Javi beating Lee but thats just me and it could go either way
personally u slept on Kenny bc prime vs prime i got Kenny high to extreme and Javier wins but it would be insanely close and clem is good but she is last here
Javier is actually my favourite character maybe because he's like the Hispanic version of Negan but uses a Metal baseball bat instead of a wooden one with barbed wire
At least this guy gave a clear enough reason and not just randomly picking one character to get strange or anything Setidaknya orang ini memberikan alasan yang cukup jelas dan tidak sembarangan memilih satu karakter hingga menjadi aneh atau semacamny
I feel like Clem would take Aim, she was already proving to be a better shot than Lee at a young age, plus Kenny’s feat is kinda lessened due to him having a rifle.
Yeah javi definitely underrated but if its 1on1s I think Kenny or Lee would win Them 2 and Jane taught her everything she knows Javi never was a big of force as them with their respective cons the bite which made him incredibly sick and weakened, the missing eye which messes up depth perception if the 4 met Kenny would prolly beat tf outta javi then Lee and Clem would stop him
Anyone with a brain knows it's Clem.. if not I are not a human and I hope it whole fam dies..(Uploader) also the only reason she would win is because Kenny would let her
Woah now lee only got bit 1 time I say Kenny was more durable than lee man lost his eye his family in front of him took a beating from Jane got throw out a car and still save Clem also Clem 9 years old definitely should one just cause of that
