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Well tbh josie as a siphon has a big advantage magically and if lucky even against the vampiric sode of hope technically by definition wearwolf too. But hopes only advantage is physical str and speed. But if given opp. Josie can kill hope. Suck allllll the magic. But hopes too physically strong
@@championsgaming1 even if she siphons all of her magic, which she cant 1) because it would kill jer and 2) because hope would have torn off her head. Hope would dessicate and come back to life in a few minutes
@@The_Memorial no bc vampirism is magic. She would take away the vampirism and hope would die from whatever spell freya used just like how the twons almost killed caroline
katherine was a person of which there were others with the same appearance, dark josie is a different side of the same person's personality (two personalities sharing the same space and not two different people with two equal bodies) besides katherine does what she wants , dark josie, when she takes control of her body, she does what josie doesn't dare, just like killer frost (the flash)
@@moondustalight7938 the way we knew how bad things could be if Stefan turned it off because of seasons before from Klaus, same with dark Josie, then being pushed to that point to do what they fear to protect people.
Am I the only person who keeps tuning in to the legacies in hopes that hope and Josie just kiss already. Also am I the only person who doesn't want hope to go back to being good cuz I mean she's hot and also so fucking badges and powerful she also is getting shot done like she took out the triad vamp and wolf in a matter of two seconds not that they were a threat but still dark hope seems so much more better than good hope or is that I just like evil characters. I mean she is the only mikaelson at the moment who is being an actual villain and I know they have reasons for being good now but like they were badass and feared they created the vampire race for heavens sake now they can be knocked out by a normal vampire I mean come on they are original fucking vampires. Sorry about that thanks for listening to me vent
@@blackdragongtx i totally get you! I'm hoping somewhere between all the Chaos josie and hope finds atleast a moment of their childhood crush on each other, in tvd people were hooking up with the least expected character too but why not Josie and hope 😫😫😫
@@sarochabecky28 right like I'm thinking either while hope is all dark her and Josie might kiss but they probably not. I pretty sure though that Josie will be the one to get Hope's humanity back cause she is the only person who has come close. Also I think that hope does get her humanity back that she's going to slowly realize that she is still madly in love with Josie like Elena and Damon that's just my theory you can go a head and ignore it.
@@casiecase12 so did anyone else get anxiety from the new episode where aurora stole hopes body cause I'm hoping that gets her body back like next episode cause she knows how to use her powers also she can be killed in aurora body which is dangerous and I don't want this to be how her humanity switch gets flipped.
Dark Josie is SO FUN and shows the IMMACULATE range Kaylee has. (Danielle is doing a phenomenal job here too but, Dark Josie just has the biggest place in my heart idc)
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I like how there is barely any emotion in Hope’s face when she sees Dark Josie. It shows she doesn’t fear Dark Josie nor cares that Josie set her free or what the risk to Josie is.
Not really. Hope would destroy josie/dark josie with ease. Even in s2 with tons of black magic Hope could mqtch her power while playing defense. Now dark Josie has like almost no power and Hope is a tribrid going for the kill.
@@The_Memorial dark josie has barely any energy? Really? lmao, dark josie endured that lot of black magic and still hasn't died, the writers who didn't exploit any of dark josie's powers, her black magic in the case, because she didn't use almost any black magic, so dark josie could too explore several powerful black/forbidden magic spells,
@@llusxt right black Josie must be more powerful at black magic since she is basically dark magic Josie was just a vessel for black magic but dark Josie’s is it
@@emiliouriarte3671 But with this dark magic of dark Josie, she could have several feats of spells with black magic, and not summarize the dark Josie in just one Josie with black magic, since dark Josie and Josie are not The same people, not feeling literal yes, more like personality/person yes, understand?
@@llusxt yes but Josie needs to siphon to use her powers in season two it’s proven that dark Josie doesn’t need to siphon she can snap her fingers and do spells like that . I’m pretty sure dark Josie is way more powerful black magic isn’t normal magic it’s black for a reason and dark Josie is built off of it
Dark Josie can go toe to toe with Hope magic wise but Hope will still win since her magic is endless and she has other powers besides being a witch. But Dark Josie CAN PUT UP A GOOD FIGHT.
True but Josie holds power over hope emotionally , Josie knows hope loves her and won’t kill her , That’s why she said “what am I going to do with you “ and put her in the therapy box . Hopefully Josie is the one that turns hope humanity off If it’s not Hayley’s or Klaus’s letter .
That’s true , but I think we are forgetting how powerful dark Josie is her manic is basically dark we forgot we saw a glimpse of her power when she said “octum” lol and the ground rose from underneath her but when we look back at the first season when hope used a death spell for the dragon she had to use a spell from the grimore (idk how to spell those words 🤦🏽♀️) so she has the power but it doesn’t necessarily just comes naturally to her cause hope isn’t evil just my opinion thou ☺️
Hope: "What took you so long?" Josie: "Well, I needed proper motivation" Hope: "Oh, don't tell me it was *what's her name* being in danger that brought you out" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Josie got it wrong. Hope doesn't want to hurt them but she's afraid that without her humanity she might kill all of them. Why else would she warn them to stay away instead of threatening so much? (Other than stretching out the story which is fine by me. More organic.) She's almost begging them to stay safely away.
Dark Josie is just shy of being as awesome as Dark Willow. She's got the dark hair and the veins and some snappy comebacks. Dark Willow however was flat out insane and a brutal murderer. It would be kinda fun to see if they could make Josie go that dark.
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Yea don't ever in your life compare dark willow and josie🤣 josie nowhere near close to the power willow had josie is like the Disney version compared to willow
Dark Josie is right, Hope is afraid to feel the pain again but her defence mechanism will fail, the humanity always gets back one way or another. She can't run from her feelings forever. Hope is trying to find ways to make them leave her alone without killing them so she doesn't have to face that much guilt when her humanity inevitably returns. The fact that she was so aggressive with Alaric makes me think she had resentment towards him, probably because the "Klaus Mikaelson The Great Evil" book or using her father to guilt tripping her and controlling her.
Hope is an Original Tribrid since she's the first of her kind just like how Klaus is thw Original hybrid and the rest of the Mikaelsons are the Original Vampires since they are the first of their kind
I know hope is more powerful than dark Josie and all but when hope tried to use magic and she absorbed it proved that dark josie is the only one that can put up a fight to hope and that’s why hope was scared because dark Josie also holds power over her emotionally and can turn her humanity back on , Josie knows hope loves her and doesn’t want to kill her. If Hayley’s or Klaus’s letter isn’t the key to turning her humanity back on then it has to be Josie. If it’s Landon coming back from that purgatory place it would ruin it.
Dj can absorb the spells that manifest physically but Josie couldnt undo the immobilization spell. Dj knew she couldnt win. If Hope wanted to instead of kicking her she could have snapped her necm
Because Hope let her. Even with her humanity turned off, she still cares for her friends deep down and wouldn’t hurt them. They are no March for her if she decides to really use her powers
@@calmeshera4131 Hope didn’t have her vampire side so she was at a disadvantage to Dark Joise. The two were relaying on magic and Dark Joise is a superior witch. She could use dark magic and absorb any spell Hope throws at her. Hope being an original vampire is the only thing making her stronger than Dark Joise
Hope is an Original Tribrid. I don't need more explanation. She's a species different than her father, uncles, and aunt. Only an Original can compell a vampire which hope does when she compells the triad lad pretending to be a bartender. Also only an Original like Klaus and Hope can sire werewolf-vampire hybrids. No more bullshit excuses that she is not an Original because she is an Original of her own species. You like it or not she's an Original period. All replies that disagree on this comment is counted as false and will be ignored. I suggest for those who disagrees to watch the roots like The Vampire Diaries and The Originals.
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Hope truly is an Original vampire, or an Original Tribrid. That she's faster, stronger, can't be killed easily, and can compel other nonoriginal vampires. With knowing magic spells that she has learned from her aunt Freya, making hope like her aunt, grandmother (Esther), and great aunt (Dahlia) one of the powerfullest witches. Lastly her werewolf that she can kill any vampire with just one bite.
So did Josie just basically confirm that hope is indeed an original or am I crazy cuz it sounded like that's what she said. I mean I kinda already knew that she was even before she turned but this might be the final nail in the coffin that confirms it
I mean it’s obvious number one the daggers don’t kill her they desiccate her and since she’s part wolf it doesn’t affect her and also because she’s a witch she can pull it out she can’t die so I don’t know why people were shocked or thought she wasn’t an original when it’s so clearly obvious that she is
You don’t need any kind of magic to be powerful, and Dark Josie just proved that. This interaction was something I never knew I needed. Season 4 so far ain’t disappointing
I really don't understand why they don't have more guest appearances of the Mikaelson's family. Just because Klaus and Elijah are gone. doesn't mean the rest of them would just abandon Hope. Personally think the writer's are dropping the ball by not bringing in family every so often.
Its sad sad and sooo sad we didnt get to see dark josie and hope battle it would have been soooo cooolllll!!! I just read that the actor who plays josie is leaving the show or on a break from playing the charecter I am disheartened. I really hope she comes back I really appreciate her character especially when she plays dark josie 😪
I love how they did this scene.. down to the part of Dark Josie loving the energy siphoning.. they should’ve had her as the anti hero during the no humanity saga lol
I feel to be a little odd to say this, which is actually an obvious thing, but I came to notice that some people have not payed attention correctly to this details that correlate to Dark Josie's power. - She was not just like any regular witch using Dark Magic (like Eva Sinclair) or Expression (like Bonnie Bennett). - The source of her power, which came to make her existence to come in the story was not from a regular or common-just-done dark magic spell or just an absorption of a single and simple magic spell. It came from the momento Josie absorbed the power of a demon sword / filled with a MILLENIA Dark magic power, which was used to kill DEMONS. - Might that be said, it was one of the very few instances where a siphoner / heretic was seen hurt by being in contact / siphoning it (the other time I can remember was when Lizzie was absorbing Ken's power, the top tier god)... So you can only compare that to how powerful that black magic should have been. - Besides, Josie hurt by not just absorbing, but also by simply touching that sword or Lizzie hurt by absorbing Ken's powers, while not even when they touched / absorbed Hope's powers they felt a thing (Dark Josie abrorbed Hope's full tribrid mode offensive magic like a bliss of fresh air)... - You guys should also remember that not even when they absorbed / siphoned out Inadu's (The Hollow) power from Hope they felt a thing... A source of black magic that was killing Hope and hurting Klaus themselves. - Not to mention that their siphoning power which on TVD lore was once considered "an abomination", as to why the very name of the heretics, was finally fully clarified on Legacies as the clear indication of nature's loopholes to balance itself, in this case, to balance the source of existence of magic itself, which came from god magic. - So as stated, Hope would not be able to defeat Ken alone, show would endure and sttrugle for a while, but end up dead, as It was virtually seen getting to happen. Lizzie was necessary to face off against him due to that mere existence of her powers, which Ken was visually and clearly hurt by once she could handle it. Hope's existence was to (we like It or not) end the powerful trinity spell (magic), which was completed by the beggining of Season 4. Her mission of existence was complete. Her loophole existence by nature és fullfiled within her task. Get the point? :) - If you see how TVDU lore works, even more with the siphoners all virtually dead on TVD after Kai's transition, it was only natural that nature used Jo's pregnance as a loophole to make more siphoners to eventually fullfil the task in relation to the Very source of magic (God Magic). I only clearly feel Julie and co. didn't have the full time to explain ALL of that visually as It was clearly intended by S4. As the only thing apart from that while fire thing to virtually be able to hurt (with consequences) Ken and Jen apart from God Magic itself... - So it basically puts Josie and Lizzie (as Kai, If he was alive, as Vallerie Tulle, the other siphoner / heretic alive) in the position to end and ballance God Magic, a thing nature at one point might have seen as unballanced. - The source of EVERYTHING ON TVDU came from Magic, which came from god magic, which is hurt / absorbed by siphoners. Get the point? - And with ALL that said, it's only reasonable as to why Dark Josie is / was / could be a real threat, or an eventual humanity off heretic Lizzie... Or even worse, an eventual Heretic Dark Josie with her humanity off. As of Inadu and Dahlia who manipulated reality with their use of Dark Magic could surpass death (both) and afterlife itself (Inadu), so could them (Josie and Lizzie - even more Dark Josie) with that rare and unique kind of Power (the ability to siphon godly powers). Easy, simple.
I love that Hope in her genius sent Josie into the therapy box instead of killing her dealt with her little Josie problem. As Josie goes off to find herself without her being at the school. *I know the actress left the show but I’m super hoping she’ll get her way back*
"Questionable taste in men" I died. She said what the majority of us thought since season 1. LOL I would like Hope with any other guy but Landon. Why not Ethan or Clarke? But make her obsessed about boring insipid Landon??! Bestie, no.
@@fangslut yea he sweet. But knowing your gf has abandoned issues he continue to run away. 2. He was always dying those was the only things he was good at doing. He was literally dead weight to hope he was so defenseless im pretty sure she was going to get tired of that as she did mention something like that when she was under the true spell. He just wasn't the right one for her tbh
@@Nel-ej3gh why can’t he be with a mikelson. Why does he have to be some “badass” klaus got with care & cami. Both were sweet especially cami. Partners don’t have to be badass lol, atleast he’s respectful unlike a lot of the characters in tvdu
@@simmersgirl7878 yeah I agree I think hope should get a new partner and Landon is his own person he should be able to make choices he wants. He never wanted to hurt hope but sometimes has to do it for him or his friends. I see people bring up the fact that he broke up with hope in s3 then left but that was a fake Landon. I don’t remember all the times he ran away but he didn’t do it to purposely hurt hope. And yeah he’s a human so ofc he’ll be dead weight but he’s still a good character in my opinion. Like yes he died all the time but he did the right thing by wanting hope to kill him, and he was gonna take the spot if Rafael but Rafael didn’t let him. So he’s a good friend and a bland character but sweet. I just don’t think he deserves sm hate lol, hate handon not Landon
I ship them good and bad sides of them. Hope basically kills Alaric and does kill Lizzie. But the one person that is a threat and proved it, is the only person she cannot kill and only stall.
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When she said she wants to figure out what to do with Josie I think she’s gonna turn her into a heretic. Making her sired to Hope and that if she dies by Lizzie, Josie will also die by Lizzie.
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I love when Josie said YOU'RE BASICALLY AN ORIGINAL NOW, reminds me of how powerful the original family was. And how Dark Josie took the lightning like it was nothing show how powerful she was then Hope kicked her back to hell. 😂😂
I think everyone who loves Klaroline knows that Caroline said exactly the same sentence in The Originals 5x01 as Josie in this scene (‘Why don’t you pick someone your size’). I honestly think the Legacies is trying to make some of Lizzie and Josie’s relationships do the same like Klaroline, but my opinion is that there is no couple who will ever have what Klaus and Caroline had.
I think Josie is slowly letting dark josie become a part of her, like in this moment and without the immense black magic Josie had DJ is just her bitchy side wich Josie is afraid of showing. They need to stop showing them as separate characters and unify them in a complete Josie that can be both strong and good. I think that's why the color palette is changing on josie's outfit. There will be a time (i hope) when josie won't need to go full on costume to be the best version of herself or turn into "someone else" to speak her truth
not really she knew that her magic would be useless against her (dj) because shes too strong so she had to rely on her vamp side which was the super speed kick which was also an unexpected attack
Hope is said to be the most powerful witch in history that can fill the ancestral well of power for generations, Hope used a spell that was able to be siphoned on, there is no doubt that Hope is the most powerful witch in history.
I hope any fan on here can help out.. I have been racking my brain about who could possibly be the one to get Hope to turn her emotions back on.. if Freya and Rebecca cldn't do it who can.. It won't be klaus cause the actor said publicly he won't be coming back to the tvd universe. My money is on her mom maybe the writers will figure out a way for the super squad to bring her back like with Joe. According to the tvd universe only strong emotional shock or tramua can get a vampire to flip the switch again or maybe someone they have a emtional connection to forces them to face their guilt, grief or whatever they are running away from. Rafael is a strong candidate too he was Landon's best friend and the only other person who loved him as much as Hope. He definately could get her to her finally feel and accept everything. He also loved her and she cared for him too. At this point the squad need to stop fighting her she's too powerful. They need to figure out who dead or alive can get her back before she does something that will truly destroy her when she gets her emotions back. We don't need another Elijah situation..
I agree with this, however, I think now there’s been way too much damage done, so it’ll be very bad for Hope when her humanity does come back on. She’s killed Lizzie and Alaric, that’ll probably hurt her a lot, as well as killing Landon. I’m hoping maybe one of the people you’ve mentioned might help Hope out a bit
The times when we saw hope scared during her humanity off stint: 1. When Aurora mentioned the Hollow. 2. When Hope encountered her humanity. 3. When Dark Josie said that Hope was afraid of her humanity coming back on.
When people say dark josie is like katherine they don't mean she is just like Katherine they are saying like Katherine could insult and temped one of the most powerful people in the world but yet that person would never kill her cause she has a hold on them like dark josie here knew she could not hurt hope in anyway yet she still tempted hope even if hope is one of the strongest beings on earth so when people say she Is like Katherine they mean dark jo has the same tactics as katherine
