Legacy of Kain | Dumah - A Character Study 

One might say he’s a real Dumahss

@Sith Jawa That's an interesting question. Depends on how strong those spindly legs are.

TY SO MUCH!!!

Best Vampire worst power up

Now the next one is Turel.

@Sith Jawa come to save my soul prodigal brother?

Wait until you try and open the Sanctuary Clan's Gates by hand from outside, if you haven't already.

Same dude. Out of all the secrets and even playing with the debug menu, this cutscene took me by surprise when watching the video.

same

It certainly has a lot of potential as an IP, but I’d advocate for some books/comics to revive it slowly rather than trying to make more games first.

@@wikipediaintellectual7088 Maybe some stuff detailing the events between BO2 and Soul Reaver? Or prequel content about Vorador and Janos? Hell even just some more stuff about the world in general that doesn't really focus on the main prophecy and characters.

@@SirKenzi I agree with this notion, and that seems like the direction they were going in for the Nosgoth mmo. Since most major characters in LoK are dead, it would make sense to add new ones. I’d also like to see more information on the everyday lives of humans in Nosgoth and how their cultures developed.

@@wikipediaintellectual7088 All this being said, I do still want to see Kain restore the Pillars with his corruption cleansed and Raziel, as ever, at his right hand, armed with hope and clarity of spirit.

@@SirKenzi Is there confirmation that the pillars aren’t instruments of the Elder God and therefore corrupt by their very nature? This is the kind of stuff that I think some good thorough worldbuilding would help.

SAME

Same here

Highlight of the day for sure.

Same.

Yes!

good idea

Ah, cannibalism. May have helped weaken him over time...acting as a poison. May have weakened him a great deal, allowing the hunters to kill him easier.

@@propheci um, no, they mean AFTER he got killed by the vampire hunters, he'd have become a vampire wraith in the spectral realm and naturally ate the souls of the others.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to go to the spectral realm in Janos tomb in Defiance to see if the same thing would happen.

@@Crimsonknight111 it's a bit different with him, since he's an original and with the still beating heart thing...

This is what keeps me coming back to this game, there is always something I was unaware of, and I actually found all the glyphs and explored the different areas pretty thoroughly, but I still find things I missed. Such a great series / game.

thats a very nice explaination! they were essentially lying in acid for years.

@@AnnaCurser Exaaaactllyyyy :)

That is true.🤔 Or duma could have eat they souls. I mean he was hanging around as a soul for a long time. And there are like no souls around.

I guess the humans waited for the Dumahim territory to snow, so they could get a field advantage.

Very neat explanation! Being truth, this would also prove the human attackers' audacy and cruelty. Forcing the vampire bodies to be exposed to a slow painful anual meltdown, they'd doom their souls to remain trapped in the spirit realm for all eternity. My memory might be fuzzy, but I remember Dumah's fortress being packed with vampire wraiths, yet they didn't seem to be linked to any corpse in particular. That'd mean they were probably forced to haunt the area, always next to their original bodies, never to be able to restore them ever again. Quite a grim fate for them indeed.

Beautiful work!

I agree almost complete; only that I see Rahab as evolution as well, comparable to whales and dolphins. Blooddrinking whales... well you know what I am trying to say here 😂 Anyways, Dumah totally rocked 🤘

@@jackmakmorn Yeah, Rahab's evolution was great but in beating one of Vampire's weakness, he became extremely sensitive to another that's why It's still a devolution. While Dumah is my favourite, I admit that Rahab is a much better character in general. Even Kain had some respect to him considering he was the only he warned about Raziel's arrival.

Am I the only one with a soft spot for Melchaiah?

@@prideofasia99 I always pitied him, poor guy was falling apart, literally. He also scared me to hell when I was kid. In fact, he was the reason I dropped playing Soul Reaver when I first reach that point. Horror in games was not news to me as I was playing Resident Evil, Silent Hill even back then but Melciah always terrified me more than anything.

@@prideofasia99 Melchaihai was were kids gave up, or continued onto an evolved manhood. He's an OG. Much respect. Imagine I'm in remastered/remakes graphics....

The digestion may not be instantaneous because he, unlike his brother Raziel, is not really a full wraith, so he needs to absorb souls slowly, and obviously, the more the distance, the slower the process

I heard that too. Actually, it was just a regular wraith that was on the other side of the wall lol.

How would dumas eat souls? Has he become a wraith?

@@shawnganske8731 yes, but he kept his body intact, unlike raziel who makes a new body everytime he shifts.

Youre very perceptive

I always figured they simply overwhelmed him. Sure it cost them A LOT of people to do it but eventually they wore him down enough to get him shackled into his throne at which point they managed to stake him until he finally "died". (when normally 1 impale is enough Dumah took 3)

Considering the angles of the shot, it is likely they did use ballista while he was in battle. He probably stumbled backward to his throne after the second shot, and the third pinned him down. They tried to burn him, but it didn't work, so they shackled him where he stood.

Maybe they were able to kill him by the device similar to cheiroballistra? It was quite specific weapon used by Roman army, something between heavy crossbow and balista. Strong enough to pierce any type of armor, mobile and small enough to use it in narrow corridors in dumahim town.

That's pretty cool.

I had similar thoughts, given the size of the spears and the fact they seem to be made out of large pieces of wood rather than stylized spears. I feel like he was shot with ballistae as well, and the posthumously chained to his throne. Given the Humans tactics with the rest of his kind though, I wonder why they didn't burn his corpse. Perhaps they wanted to leave him intact as a monument to their victory and Dumah's hubris.

At the movie rental? But LoK are games?

Only Blood Omen and the first Soul Reaver are worth playing All the other games are poor , the games de-evolved themselves into lesser versions of the originals . DS2 they got rid of the open world and replaced it with just 1 stretch of map , you go from the pillars into the swamp and then Into the mountains and then go through time twice and it's the exact same stretch of map , they got rid of the world they had on the first game . They also get rid of all your glyths from the first game and don't replace or reintroduce them there is no power ups at all in the game your hp gets higher bit you have no magic anymore and never get any stronger than you are at the start of the game , combat is more janky in the second and the enemies are harder all the while making you weaker . All the textures look the same on 2 as well so you often get into battle and turned around and end up going back the way you came because all the rooms and halls look the same , there's also far more puzzles which no one asked for , so a in all SR2 was a far lesser game than the first SR3 defiance was the absolute killer of the series , in 2 they take all your power away and in 3 they take your ability to control the camera away and turned the game into a typical hack and slash near side scrolling game And the story doesn't continue on from the last like it did between 1-2 it was a tragedy what they done to the series . So yeah if you're thinking of picking up a copy of the games take what I said into stride , legacy of Kain blood omen is an amazing game and legacy of Kain:Soul Reaver is an amazing game I'd pick them up for sure SR2 you might wanna get to unravel the mystery left from the first game, but the story is the only good thing about the entire game , and yeah you will regret paying for defiance it's not worth picking up , I'd just watch a RU-vid video of it to get what's rest of the story

@@MrJoel69xxx very well said,I fell the same about the series,never even got to the 3 instalment..1st one was atmospheric bath.Story and soundtrack was doing 70% of the package..

Imagine a fight with Dumah like the one against Baldur in GOW.

Well if they do a remake, We should get a new power-up because @StrictlyFantasy is right about the constraint ability. It’s so bad, The developers of Crystal Dynamics decided to remove the ability from Soul Reaver 2 and Legacy of Kain: Defiance.

Dumah was a brilliant warrior and strategist. He opted for a new path of evolution, becoming a wraith like Raziel, to have a fighting chance. The difference of course, he can't shift realms like Raziel and make a new body in planar portals, so once he lost his body in the furnace, he was done.

@@papapapa16 that is neither a new path of evolution, nor a brilliant choice. All vampire spirits when left long enough to fetter in the spectral plane, adapt and begin to feast on souls. There are numerous examples, the entire vampire wraith enemy type. Dumah was struck down by vampire hunters, but stuck around in the spectral plane and brought that ability back once raziel removed the impaling implements. No different to that random melchahim that you pull a staff out of when first learning about vampire wraiths. It's true that his body stopped changing while he was dead. But that wasn't really by his own choice...

@@FFKonoko sorry I didn't explain myself. My theory is that Dumah let himself get caught on purpose, I mean, he was probably the most powerful being in all of Nosgoth at the time, how else would the humans beat him? Kain told everyone that Raziel would return to kill them, so Dumah probably thought this was his best fighting chance.

dead internet theory.. I don’t believe most of you are real anymore

They tied up their weapons to their arms, that much is known

we are here))

For sure. I was thinking about doing something like that soon actually.

@@strictlyfantasy Thank you. And fantastic channel by the way. This is swiftly becoming one of my favourite haunts on RU-vid. This must have been a lot of hard work.

I know the feeling. When I was younger, a boss I remember struggling with for months was Demons Gate from FF7. When I finally defeated it, I was yelling with joy.

"and then got beaten for yelling for such nonsense" what the heck?

I second that!

Not remade just a facelift keep all the original audio just update the graphics don't change anything about the story or architecture make the old magic new again

Kain didn't change because he used the time devices after throwing Raziel to the abyss. He didn't want to wait another eternity!