For the issue regarding the 8 directions when using the analog stick on Citra, you need to use the setting "set analong stick" that way it'll allow you to use the full 360 range of movement. Otherwise, you'll get exactly what you did, the clunky weird feeling and clearly visible restriction to a set 8 directions. Hope that helps and this was a great video!
I wanna add to this because when setting up the analog stick you might also find yourself moving very slowly, as if the controller is not picking up the entire range of the joystick. While I'm not sure what causes this, if you open citra through adding it to steam, it gets resolved and it becomes a surprisingly smooth experience.
@@venny1689 oh I think I know what your talking about, do you use a particular controller? Ik the range on some controllers aren't set accordingly in Citra so what you stated can happen as well, such as the PS4 controller.
@@akirakaito5280 it happened with the switch pro controller and the switch n64 controller (since I'm guessing they share a similar framework). I haven't tried with my xbox controller though, that might be different.
I personally like the 3ds version best, becuase the controlls feels the most natural. But i can for sure see the positive sides with the pc port, especially if you have somewhat knowledge of coding.
Good video. I love the Zelda series and played Ocarina on an N64 as a kid. It’s still my favourite game of all time. If I can give some feedback on your video, though. Perhaps go from worst to best as it will keep your audience watching for the duration of the video. You throw the number 1 best way to play out there straight away and that’s all people are here for.
great video that really shows the comparative pros and cons. I've just purchased a 2DS purely so that I can play the 3DS version. It's still a fantastic and charming game that I just couldn't enjoy on the original N64 when it came out, as I hated the low FPS and never completed it due to this. Excited to play the full game at last!
@@dogboi76 what a pleasant comment, well done! I don't see why you feel the need to challenge basic facts as if you've uncovered a conspiracy, but let me help you...I'm 51 and had an N64 when it launched - Waverace64 ran at 60fps, most other games 30fps (Mario 64 etc) - Zelda struggled, usually getting 15-20 fps which gave a lot of people headaches. Good trolling though, like I said, well done!
I got my N64 controller for the Switch yesterday, and immediately jumped in to this game. It took a bit for me to get used to that controller again, but it feels exactly like I remember from nearly 25 years ago. I'm really satisfied with this version. It feels like getting a hold of the unaltered copies of Star Wars. If you were a kid in the 90s and loved this game, I highly recommend grabbing that controller and revisiting this game.
I wish the N64 NSO games had a CRT filter, but I suppose it might be a little processor intensive for the old Switch hardware. Makes me wonder if using an emulator on PC with the NSO N64 controller might be the way to go, can have all the filters, and all the games.
Cool, can you play Zelda OoT on Switch? And get the original controller? I just installed a PC version of it, but the controls, specially "look around", is horrible with a keyboard.
My first time playing this game was on the 3DS remake, it was great fun. I’m replaying it rn on NSO with the 64 controller, and I have to say I still really enjoy it. They’ve ironed out most of the kinks with the emulation, and while I agree that it’s disappointing it took Nintendo so long to get it right, I do think now that they have gotten it right it should be given a bit more credit. It’s an enjoyable way to play OoT in my opinion. Though yes Nintendo please for the love of god let us turn those stupid borders off
@@jesusbarrera6916 SO TRUE. I'm a new switch owner and was so darn tempted to actually pay the 50 bucks a year just to finally play Ocarina of Time again! But I waited that feeling out and luckily found out about the PC Port and kept my 50 bucks! Nintendo can kick rocks for that nonsense haha.
I played OOT on both Project64 and Citra (3ds version) and had no problems with either of them. I was getting high res on Project64 with no lag but I enjoyed the 3ds version better just for the updated graphics and inventory selection.
I currently play it with citra emulator with 4k texture and you can tweak the atmosphere with reshade to give 64 vibes and add a ambient oclusion who make the game beautifull and look like a recent game. and for the controller 360 mouvement issue do you have try the option "set analogue stick" in the input option that should fix the problem. For the double screen issue you can use a custom keybin for swap screen quickly. For me it's definitely the best way to play the game.
@@PowerofRock24 I get 2 crash during my playthrought in the other hand the artstyle is faithful to the original vision I largely prefere the the remake style but it depend of your taste
@@ajax2309 I'm currently doing a playthrough on Citra, and have also only had two crashes to be fair. Although that's still two more crashes than Dolphin or Project64. I regret not going with Ship of Harkinian this playthrough. That seems like the best choice.
I have a question regarding the screens, i play emulators on a gaming laptop , conmected to a TV so is there a way to hacve The top screen display on the TV and The Bottom screen on My laptop's screen?
And now we have mouse in menus support,assignable boots to C buttons, free camera, custom music/samples replacement, custom textures support (the mod doesnt really well support custom text at this moment, it only support one IIRC, he souldn't have said custom texture support x) ), a multi player in the work and actually working as a Proof a Work, 64 bits support, all of that probably coming in the next stable build (exept the multiplayer mode).
@@antoinepersonnel6509 yeah, but i dont think ill follow the new updates, because i already completed ocarina of time a lot of times and it got boring ☹️
I haven't tried it with OoT in particular, but using Dolphin for Wii Virtual Console games is a life changer. Tried it for Sin & Punishment and F-Zero X and it's probably the best way to play using the original ROM. If for some reason you don't want to use the PC port, that's the way to go
I actually just tried it out for my next video and you're right, it works great! I should have tried it out for this video, it would have been at spot number two.
I got the bonus disk with Mario Kart Double Dash For a new player, the way that the 3DS version handles the Jabu Jabu fish is absolutely fantastic compared to the original. Before that point in the game you're given no indication that you can freeform catch things in bottles by using it with the environment. In the 3DS version some NPC dialogue is updated to give some nudges to try it. It also adds a camera pan in the water temple to indicate the existence of the hole under the central shaft - the main reason why people miss that key is simply not knowing that they unlocked that door and it's consistent with other Zelda unlocks to pan to the thing you opened. Those two fixes make OoT 3D the only freeform puzzle game I have ever played with no moon logic required at all.
This might fall under the other Dolphin option, but technically you can also play the Wii VC version on it too (more reliable version than the GC port plus the upscaling features)
@@Axiarus ye i got it mate. Better late then never i guess
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My first playthrough of OoT was on the 3DS about 10 years ago. I have always tried to avoid guides, but the Sheikah Statues were pretty great. Having Gyroscope for the shooting minigames, the boots as regular items, and greatly detailed backgrounds was amazing. About a year ago I replayed it on the Wii VC, and it was pretty neat! I used my Wavebird controller, and it was such a great experience. I want to see what can be done with the PC port. I would love to play with the 3DS models and textures (or at least reworks on them), and with better FPS and higher resolution. If we ever get free camera movement and RTX it would definitively be the best OoT experience. It's a shame the Wii U and Switch ports were so bad compared to the rest. Input lag and lack of dedication killed an amazing game for those consoles (at least on their first release).
I've never owned an N64, GameCube, Wii or Wii U before and while I do own a Switch I don't have the extended subscription for the N64 ports. And my computer is sadly not the greatest either, so emulators are out of the question for me as well. But luckily I do own a classic 3DS so I am able to play the 3DS remake of this wonderful game. And although I have never played a different version of OoT, making my opinion seem practically useless, but I believe that the 3DS version is the best you can get from this game. While I agree with some people that there is sections in the remake (bottom of the well and the end boss) that are inferior to the original version, the remake just has too many positive aspects and changes that it is the most definitive version of the game.
Using a modded GameCube I ran the Zelda collection with widescreen hacks and It looks stunning That and improved framerates especially for a PAL gamer like myself I'm not aware of any emulation errors on gamecube apart from majoras mask crashing which can be fixed by disabling rumble
First off, thanks for watching! I also played the gamecube version on a modded gamecube (swiss) and realised there was a widescreen patch, but I wasn't sure if it worked well throught the entire game (lag and clipping wise) and I know not everyone has the ability to get swiss, as it is not free to mod your gamecube, while it is free on say the Wii. Thanks for letting me and other people who read your comment know :) When I talk about emulation errors, I'm mostly talking about texture inaccuracies. There is some slight artifacting on the buttons, and the pause menu. Pausing has a longer delay compared to other versions and it looks like its rendered in lower quality (compared to the wii for instance). Nothing game breaking and not everyone will notice, but personally I did notice
@@ultracreed3080 the only thing that is crappy on the widescreen patch (at least on Wii Nintendont) is that the prerendered 2D backgrounds are 4/3 stretched, so it messes slightly with Link screen position. And the on-screen icons also appear 4/3 stretched apart from A action button icon. Texts as well but this is almost unnoticeable, you really get used to stretched font.
Ironically even though the wiiu was last on his list it’s my preferred method of playing oot, with a modded wiiu you can get the GameCube releases to run and look pretty well since the wiiu uses hdmi and with a GameCube controller adapter I had a comfortable time playing the whole game on it and having the option to play it on the game pad was also a plus. Having the master quest is also a very nice bonus and gives me a reason to replay the game right after finishing the base game. The pc port can also run on the Wii U, I haven’t personally been able to get it to run but if the GameCube versions of the game aren’t for you the ship of harkinian ports should fix those issues and I’ve heard they’ve been able to get the master quest to work as well.
About OOT on Citra: I also got the issue where Link wasn't walking at full 360 degrees, but it was just a config issue. If you click on the axis detection button and then move your stick horizontal and vertically, it'll make it have proper sensitivity. Also, you can map buttons to touch controls at specific regions. This is useful for mapping the LB to talk with Navi, or the left analog button to get the ocarina.
Man, usually these lists leave me feeling like they weren't thorough enough. This video was well done, I felt like I pretty much completely agreed with everything you said, and you also managed to be thorough without taking a ton of your time to nail down every nitty-gritty detail of each version. Just the main pros, main cons, your experience, and moved on. Well done.
Using a branch of CitraVR that the community has reworked from the broken latest update which has left the project abandoned, you can play games in Citra on Quest 3 for wireless 3DS emulation in mixed reality so you can still see your real environment, and the games ACTUALLY run in 3D
The Switch version is being updated for some issues in the emulation. I think the best way though is to be a kid in 1998 and play it on launch day or on xmas day.
The first time I’ve ever played Ocarina of Time was on the 3DS remake played on Citra with HD textures. I feel like I should give the N64 version a try, but playing the PC port of the game which looks fun!
What were the issues with the GameCube version? I just finished it and my only issue was the analog stick was too sensitive compared to the N64’s stick and the C stick vs the C buttons. Didn’t notice any other issues.
@@officegossip so, if you want to play it on a console/tv, this is the definitive version, yeah? I don’t want to play it on a 3DS. Plenty of good Zelda handheld games already.
@@Labyrinth1010 if you ever want to replay it, just consider the 3ds version down the line. It’s pretty good. The og version is personally my preference.
Mesmo se eu pudesse dar 1000 likes, não pagaria o quão grato estou por seu vídeo, por conta do seu trabalho neste vídeo, irei tentar montar um PC para poder ter a melhor experiência neste game já que eu tenho 43 anos e joguei este maravilhoso game quando ainda era jovem, muito obrigado amigo , irei divulgar seu canal para todos meus amigos aqui do Brasil, Deus te abençoe 🙏🏻
Great vid. My wife & I both still play orcarina of time on the 64. My mom got it for me when I was a teenager. I’m surprised both the console and cartridge still work. I have version 1.0. I also own it for the 3ds. Looking to get a 3dsxl in the future. But yeah 👍🏽 I really enjoyed this vid peace ✌🏽
I initially started playing this game on the Wii U when I was like 14 and hated it, glad I came back with the 3DS release and loved it so easily, I see why I had such a hard time on my Wii U now thanks!
Glad u gave it another shot on a different console. Such a shame Nintendo released it in that bad of a state, I'm sure you were not the only one who had their first OOT experience on the Wii U.
Good suggestion! I originally thought of this too and wanted to wait for a Majora's Mask PC Port, but as that probably will take a while to come out, I might make it already :) And thank you for watching!!
1# Playing the 3DS version on PC with Citra threw a VR headset (to enjoy the 3D). II feel like I'm playing a 90s game in the distant future. My inner 12year me is crying right now, it's amazing.
I just learned about the PC port and I’ve been really enjoying it, and it’s blowing my mind how good it looks and how smooth it looks running at 60+fps
I disagree with this list. Besides the recent development of the Ship of Harkinian port (which is very exciting), the best way in 2023 in my opinion is Zelda 64 UHD V6.1, a texture pack for the Collector's Edition Disc for the Gamecube. Emulate it in Dolphin and apply the Texture Pack. You can get Widescreen 30fps with up to 4K resolution (I think 1080p is plenty good enough). Then you can get N64 to USB converter cable for the PC so you can play with an authentic N64 controller on PC.
I played Ocarina of Time for the first time on the Wii U Virtual Console and enjoyed it a lot. I didn’t really notice the input lag unless I really looked for it and the graphics looked fine to me. I haven’t played it on any other console yet though, so if I did, I might notice those things a bit more and like those ports better.
Yea, the wii u one is actually well made... n64 emulators can have some really weird glitches which do not exist on wii u, im shocked wii u got lower then that... I played start to finish on wii u and it was great!
SoH All the way, I play Zelda at 144 fps and it is so smooth when you pan around. I love it. Cant wait until their texture support is finished and MM is finished.
I would rate the Switch version a little higher. It runs at a crisp 720p (highest among the official Nintendo versions), has save states and you can buy that NSO Wireless N64 controller for authentic controls.
Of the many ways I played this game, my favorites were the odd ones. Almost completed it on a friend’s Sony Experia Play phone via emulation. Yes with a D pad, was a ton of fun
I play Project64 emulation on my old notebook to finish it ten years later from last attempt. It have native mouse and macros input options to make precise shooting and movement. HiRes texturepacks here and some mods too. 3Ds is great looking, but glitching quite much. Have some roms problems to play at Ship version, but modding here is very promising!
Number 10 sums up my experience with the game. I started with the wii u version which I didnt like when I was young. I later bought the 3ds version and finished the game that way
IMO the best way to play is either on the 3ds, or the Nintendo switch online expansion pack they have for n64. If u want classic n64 look or just don’t have a 3ds then I do recommend Nintendo switch online. Or if your just broke then emulators, specifically ones on pc (or on the delta app for App Store work too if u connect controller) are great, free options. Pc allows for more customization in your emulation while mobile is a bit more streamlined especially on iOS. Hope this helps!
I completed the game twice, once on N64 and then on the 3DS. The first was great, but felt like the performance of the system itself didn't aged well as I expected and it was laggy. The best version imo is the 3DS' one. You're not getting the original idea of what a game was in the late 90's, but that wasn't a problem to me. Furthermore, I really recommend everyone to play OoT, then MM and finish with TP. That was Zelda at it's core for almost 20 years
Citra has been recently developed for the oculus quest. OOT 3D runs outstanding on it, apart from the controls being ever so slightly different, the game runs beautifully. It's higher resolution, has a really good framerate, and best of all, you can actually enjoy the 3D features that the 3DS might have not worked as well with!
What are you talking about?! Why would you say that the Wii U version is bad!? You said that you will not have a good experience playing it and that it would disappoint you… Why?! You never explained that at all! I played through the entirety of Ocarina of Time on my Wii U and thought it was awesome! Button mapping was great, the controllers were great, it was convenient to play on the gamepad sometimes, and save states were a nice addition. Not to mention that I would actually own this game when compared to emulation and NSO… At the very least, there was nothing wrong with playing it that way.
Thanks for watching. After playing every version back to back, I found the input lag horrible. In the footage I showed, you will notice I had a rough time controlling Link. If you didn't notice any input lag or got used to it really fast, then sure, it seems like an okay port. I am personally just very sensitive to it I guess. This list is just my opinion and nothing definitive, so thanks for sharing your opinion! I was harsh on the Wii U version and I realise it after making the video, I shouldn't have. Will take stuff like that in account for future videos :)
The best way to play this game is as follows: It is Christmas break in 1998, you're still in your pajamas. It's snowing outside, but cozy inside the house, and you have hot chocolate Mom made for you. There is no RU-vid, TikTok, or Twitch, though you have a copy of Nintendo Power handy for some game tips. You have no homework or obligations, let alone a job or bills to pay. You blow on the cartridge for good luck before grasping the three pronged monstrosity that is the N64 controller and gazing into the CRT TV screen. Oh, and Ganondorf spits real blood, not green goop.
Ngl I played Ocarina of Time for the first/only time on Wii U and still really enjoy it, don’t really see much of an issue other than the controls for the extra items. Guess it’s just a testament to how good the rest of the game is
I hear ya! A great game is a great game. If you don't have a better release to compare it with, you don't see the problems, and you will adjust to the input lag. I played all these releases for one hour each, back to back to get the footage and then these problems become very noticable haha
childhood favorite next to a link to the past my all time favorite game. but i got to agree right now the best way to play it is on pc with SOH. my gf never played it but has played the recent zeldas loved them so i installed the soh pc port on her pc and set it up with some hd textures. having proper 360 controls 4k graphics and 60 fps on wide screen. its just amazing to replay a classic with modern features
My three best ways to play OoT was the Project64 emulation (so the issues must be on your side), the GameCube version (OoT/MQ) played on the Wii and the 3DS version played on original console.
I bought a Switch last week just to play This Masterpiece and all I can say is the switch version is amazing to me it’s 1080p 30fps with no frame drops. I do wish we can widen the screen tho.
I could not stop laughing at the end of this video, first time I played Ocarina of time was on the Wii U and I absolutely loved it, still my favorite game of all time. I’m genuinely shocked you had such a bad experience with it. 😅😅😅 to each their their own I guess
I play the pal Wii VC version since October and now I’m at the final dungeon. This will be forever my favorite game of all time alongside Sonic Adventure 2 Battle on GCN/Steam.
Good informative video! I’ve used project 64 on a pretty low end laptop to play through MM and OOT and had no issues I also use a 360 controller and it functions fine for it after configuration. The dead zones are set wayyyyyy to high default on project 64, so setting them to 0 helps a lot. I think you might need to configure your plugins or try a different version of project 64. I do enjoy how easy save states are on project 64
A few extra things to point out about Wii VC: Wii VC (and GC I think) have around 1 frame (50ms) extra input lag compared to N64. The deadzone on the control stick is extremely large on those versions too so aiming precisely in first-person mode is very difficult. Wii VC also has a tendency to randomly crash, it happens I'd say around once every 150 hours of gameplay on average so its pretty rare. It also has no rumble support with Stone of Agony unlike N64. Also minor changes like Wii/GC being based on the 1.2 release so it has the updated Gerudo symbol, Ganon's blood is green and no Fire Temple chanting, but that's all subjective.
Thought the virtual console version on the Wii U game pad was awful trying to use an analog stick for the c items. I’m sure it plays great though on original Wii virtual console with a gamecube controller
@@Gawlakman I thought the Wii U VC version had the option to use buttons for the C items? On Wii VC you can use Y as C-Left, X as C-Right and Z as C-Down (C-Up can only be accessed using the stick). That's on GameCube controller at least, and it shares the same controls as the GC release. You've still got the option to use the C-Stick for those buttons but its pretty awful like you said.
Diddy Kong Racing doesn't have a lot of options to play, but it might be the rare case where emulation is high on the list. I got a great texture pack that keeps the cartoony aesthetic without going overboard with crazy resolution textures. It plays very well and is still to this day one of the best kart racers ever made.
I hope Nintendo can launch a remastered version. Because Ocarina of Time has been released for almost all the consoles since N64. In addition to 3DS, they didn't do anything to optimize the graphic or control. Once Nintendo release a 4K console in future, I have confidence they will definitely remake the game. They consumed the revenue of Ocarina too much, so I look forward to getting a perfect a version. Because it is literally a legendary game.
I bought a oculus quest 2 a few months ago and downloaded an emulator thats built on top of retro arch, its my new favorite way to play anything retro because the TVs in the emulator have the crt pixelation and make games look like they originally would have, and for n64 games thats the best way to play them
First time I ever played OoT was on the awesome GameCube Zelda Collectors Edition disc that also had Majoras Mask, 4 Swords and the Wind Waker demo on it too. So for me playing with the GameCube controller will always be the best way.
Don't even need to watch the video hands down the best way to play ocarina is ship of harkanian full pc port modern resolutions optimization to take advantage of newer hardware 60fps so many quality of life changes that make the game just so much more and is still receiving updates every few months that adds so many more features eventually by default the game will have the 3ds textures.
I absolute love the work they done with Ship of Harkinian, it is really good to play and there are a ton of options to choose. The Nswitch version did't work great for me, but i think that it still better than the online version. I usually play with both the Ship and with Retroarch or on my N64. On the N64 i play for the feeling, on Retroarch i play because of some randomizer configurations that the ship don't have, but the ship is far off on the lead of the best way to play it in my opinion. I use an nintendo 64 controller adapter to play it on PC, but i think that a GC controller would work great too.
For me, if I want the classic experience I play Ship of Harkinian. Easy. But if I want a more modernized version, I'll play OOT3D modded to 4K. It's a great middle ground between a remaster, and a mod that tweaks it to look/feel a bit more like the original. It even restores the blood to the Shadow Temple and Well.
i really hope to one day have a dungeon builder for this game, i would love to make puzzles, maps, towns, custom stories and more, some kind of Zelda OOT/MM Maker kind of game. Upvote if you guys are into this idea because i honestly foresee this actually happening
Honestly I don’t understand why Nintendo hasn’t done this, it would be so good. They made Mario Maker, why can’t they make Zelda Maker? They literally made one for BOTW development but didn’t release it to the public.
I just don’t know if they could pull it off. Inevitably, unless they made it basically like Dreams and let you create custom assets, I think it would eventually become boring. With Mario level aesthetics, you’re usually spending a brief enough time on them that it doesn’t matter as much. Just stay focused on the enemies and platforms and you’ll hardly notice. But Zelda dungeons generally require a little more time.
As of now the 3ds version is probably the best, it looks the best, ironed out some things that were dated or could've worked better in the original, and is fairly accessible. Before the N64 version was decompiled, the 3ds version was easily the best and there was no reason to go back to the original besides nostalgia or speedruns, however the decompiled version has the potential to look and play better than any other version but it's just not there yet
I just finished replaying the 3ds version and I grew up playing Zelda on a 64… With that being said, the 3ds version is beautiful. Only bad thing was making certain things easier like the after temple keys.
I think the 3DS should be 1st on different 3DS Emulator cause you can upscale the Textures to 4K and as Custom Textures that SOH is no where near when is come to visuals 3DS Emulation takes the cake but everything else would be SOH to lower
For Citra, I made a tutorial about using a phone/tablet for the second screen. It works great. And I also had trouble with controls, but after playing around with it and using BetterJoy, I can use a Switch Pro controllers with Gyro and correct joystick inputs.
I have dual monitors and after some quick Googling, I was able to get the bottom screen to show on the second monitor, which looks incredible. Now I'm going to try and see if I can get gyro working this time, since that was a bust last time I tried.
thank you so much for this video! I was playing the 3DS remake for like the 7th time wondering how can I go back to the original but the og framerate was a deal breaker for me. Glad to know the PC port fixes these issues!
Good luck aiming with those Gamecube/Wavebird controllers. The game was designed for the N64 analog stick and other controllers just don't cut it. Tarnishes the experience, IMO.
I like Dolphin myself. For glitch stuff where I need pause buffering it's great. PC Port is nice, but it's based on OoT 1.2 so there's some stuff you aren't able to do for now (they've been working to restore glitch functionality and imitate 1.0 over the years which is cool).
Love all the options. One thing that is important to me is fast-forward on emulation, which N64 emulators do well now. With all of the dialog and back and forth early in the game, setting FF to a shoulder button makes the game much less tedious. My current favorite is M64plus on Android upscaled and in widescreen. Can't wait to try the Ship of Harkinian and 3ds options though.
Despite having the Wii and 3ds versions as well as NSO, I started (re) playing it (occasionally like a bit every 2-3 weeks) the Wii U version. I honestly have no problem with it, you didn't say why exactly the Wii U version is the worst, what is wrong with it? Edit: Nevermind I overheard it the first time, the visuals and input lag. I personally like the black filter Wii u virtual console games have because it helps with the atmosphere of OoT. Fun fact, to this day the only version of MM I have played is that on Wii U, though I bought the 3ds version before the shop closed, have yet to play it.
i saw tyler mcvicker started making 'best way to play videos', i dont know if he started this genre, but i really enjoy them and im glad they are being made for different games
It's something I have been wanting to do for a while but I was always hesitant because it's kinda scary putting your voice out there, and its even worse because english is not my first language and I was afraid people would hate my accent/voice. Glad you enjoyed it! I will be making more :)
My favorite way right now is Ship of Harkinian handheld on my switch. When more substantial texture and mesh mods come out for it, I'll probably go back to pc. If I were to pick the best way to play on pc right now, however, it would be a tough sell to say SoH is better than Citra.
