2:03 I like the fact, that Greymane INSTANTLY understands Varian, when he takes the letter. Somelike he knew at any time this moment will come, when Varian will pass everything over to Anduin. Great Cinematic. I come back from time to time, just to enjoy it :)
Varian killed a big ass infernal and died vs felguards 1v5 and everyone lose their minds, but broxigar survived almost the WHOLE FCKING burning legion on Argus alone and died wounding Sargeras himselft and nobody gives a fck because "alliance wannabe fanboys" know only the in-game lore :D
No, it REALLY doesn't. Fact is, Genn's in-game model manages to have even MORE problems than REGULAR player Worgen models, from a technical standpoint. Some of the teeth on his lower jaw stretch as his mouth opens, the tips remaining where they are while the rest of the tooth moves away, and his beard clips through his lower jaw when he opens his mouth. Cinematic Genn: Beautiful. In-game Genn: Not an improvement in the slightest.
Listen to Varian's scream when he is dying. Most of the time either the voice actor or the director of the voice actor has a death scream come out like a macho, ultra-deep scream. That way the character will be seen as 'tough' or some such. Varian starts there, almost as if he 's trying to put out a brave front but he is still only a human and his scream turns to one of pure pain. I know its not a MAJOR thing, but I think that slight detail really drives home the emotional impact of this scene. Varian was a human being like all of us and I think that slight aspect to this moment really brings this out. This is, honestly, the best cinematic I have seen so far. Great job, Blizzard!
Wow, you aren't kidding! He's also the voice of Thrall, wrote several of the WarCraft books among numerous others, and was instrumental in the development of all of Blizzard's three headliner series. I think I just found my new role model. XD
Dauntless3788 He is their senior story teller after all. He was story director of all Blizzard franchise since warcraft 3 up until he retired. After that each department begin to have their own story director instead of having like one guy writing all 3 story which I assumed have drained him and led to his retirement. He even wrote stort for overwatch until Michael chu take over.
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) because the alliance has been written poorly for the last 4 xpacks. they've been willing to bend over backwards for the horde and the horde keeps antagonizing them over and over and they're expected to take it. in seige of orgrimmar they help the horde take their own city back with no terms, sylvanas makes more forsaken out of alliance soldiers there, and nothing is done. the alliance should've occupied orgrimmar for the following patch and they didn't. the alliance is supposed to be written as a great superpower (Chris metzen calls them the captain america civilization) and they keep bending over backwards for a bunch of fucking chimps. the alliance has an armada of like 300 ships, several gunships, and a tightly knit group of historical allies. the horde has 3 races that sort of like each other, zombies that nobody really likes, a group of elves that consider leaving them every expansion, and goblins whose services could be turned by a large sum of gold. Now you tell me how that group of misfits actually defeats the former alliance of lordaeron, a 10,000 year old civilization, a 100,000 year old civilization that just happens to be refugees at the moment, and tame werewolves that are still technically human. why would the alliance ever want to fight for "azeroth" if the other guys keep fucking them over. sylvanas didn't tell the alliance to retreat as well, they just did it without telling them. they've used chemical weapons against entire cities and armies, raised their fallen dead, and they do nothing. fuck azeroth and fuck the horde.
Something very noteworthy during Varian's death: If you noticed Gul'dan's expression, he seemed somewhat frustrated as he was killing him. That's because he was not able to break Varian's spirit. Varian retained his honor in his final moments.
thrall and varian always showed the best of each faction, as a 100% horde player since early TBC i only have to say, my respect to varian, great character and great leader
@@EdgeyStyle Thrall is basically going into the great denile and depression stages after losing all he tried to accomplish. He practically brought garrosh up to who he was, and was a mentor/father figure to him. After seeing all those wars and battles and the after math of everything, especially with the betraayal of garrosh becoming a psychotic power hungry old god infused chaos, and then killing garrosh, thrall felt like he was failing everyone. Like obi wan kenobi, he basically went into hermit in a cave on a distant land mode. It is a nice little throwback, but that is basically what thrall was doing for a while, and i think he still is. He feels like he has failed everyone, especially garrosh.
@@Spydabreej Because he was ruined by Blizzard.. Thrall in wc3, vanilla, TBC and WOTLK was an amazing leader. Benevolent and honorable, yet brutal and decisive against the enemies of the Horde.
@@Danneman92 What lead Thrall to break free from being, just a 'thrall' was his connection to the elements, it made him into an Orc. While I agree that Blizzard destroyed him, they made a compelling storyline as to why he chose his responsibility as a shaman to the world, over the Horde. He did think Garrosh would be alright since he had Cairne and Vol'jin's counsel. We knew how it turned out, but it also kinda justified why Garrosh turned to how he eventually became. He cut off dissent, and surrounded himself with like minded blokes, of course, he'd turn out broken.
There is one difference. Varian died with his dignity and his sacrifice having meaning. Gul'dan died broken and having accomplished nothing. One's a hero. The other is a footnote.
As a Horde player, I've always respected Varian Wrynn. He truly was a noble and honorable warrior. Seeing him die like that was horrible for me. This cutscene definitely invoked some emotion.
indeed, unlike Vol'jin who retreated and died like a bitch on the throne Remember Victory or Death? The Alliance was more horde than the horde itself that day
you can loock all that answear in the audios blizzard putted on the oficial wow chanel on YT they tell the story of guldan on azzertoh and the sageras tomb
Varian is the Spirit of the Warrior class in WoW not Garrosh or Grom. Uncorrupted by magic, brutal to foes, benevolent to and protective of allies.. Defeated but Never Broken, Sacrifice for others. For the warriors of Alliance and For the warriors of Horde!
Kinda. Remeber, the horde had Broxigar. He sacrifice himself for Azaroth, was a friend of Malfurion and Tyrande, blessd by Cenarius, batteld solo the Legion and even Sageras. He saved the world, and if he would have still lived, he would have stayed there and hold the line but this time not alone but with Varian( who he would call Lo'Gosh most likely). They are the best of the warrior on both sides.
oh shit this comment come from person never play WC2 or WC3 Grommash slay Cenaruis demi God and Mannaroth one of the greatest Legion Demons you can go see Grom WC3 cinematic i know this is 1year old commant but i cant see my Grom disrespected and do nothnig :p
@@Raziel-zm3dv But only after he taisted demonblood a second time. And Mannaroth was killd by him and Thrall. Alternative Grom got the mommend of suprise against Mannaroth. Was is powerfull, but was alsow hotheaded, easy to manipiulate and savage.
Mannaroth is Stronger then Gul'dan ( the one who killed Varian ) and even non corrupted AU Grom killed him with surprise or not true Grommash not very smart but he good with wars tactics and strategies he very smart in fights and allways look for the enemies week points after all i want to say Grom is one of the strongest Warriors Azaroth have ever seen with Orgrim and Anduin Lothar ( the Forgotten hero of the Alliance ) and for sure Varian
few years later and my favorite touch is still that Varian's eyes soften when he looks up at the ridge and sees the Legion's reinforcements from where the Horde was stationed. he at least didn't have to think that the Horde had betrayed him yet again right before he died-that expression change says it all: he saw the demons and knew they were set up, not that the Horde was double crossing him. I looooove this cinematic!!
Surfing a gigantic spaceship into the throat of an even more gigantic space monster was and still is the best and most epic way to go. This one was nice too though.
But by making this comment you're clearly not Horde. It kills me, every time someone says something like this. "Wah! I'm sad Varian died and I'm Horde! Wah!" If you're sad that he's dead then you're not Horde. You just play Horde characters. Because you're stupid.
@@Vgpl0 Not really. I play Alliance and I am Alliance with all my heart. But I can respect certain Horde characters and even feel bad for them. I respect Saurfang, Thrall to some extend and Lor'Themar has in interesting spot for me.
Lmao, wow really bro? They had to leave because they were being overrun. Varian did the same thing to defend his people except Varian would sacrifice himself whereas the Horde would retreat to fight another day. There's no cowardice in that my friend. Mind You, nothing was stopping Varian from getting on that ship with Genn, he thought it best to sacrifice himself their just in case Gul'dan launched another meteor blast. Then again, who knew if he could even fire off another one of those things and hit his mark seeing as he completely missed the first time.
+Alcaedus yes varian could've fled, so everyone would've died. the robot caught the ship, they wouldn't be able to go anywhere unless someone destroys that thing.
That's true, considering if Varian's sword was enough to destroy it, then theoretically one of Mekkatorque's Blast would've been able to do the trick as well no? Come on man, this is all written this way for plot, but we know that more could've been done man. It's just amazing how ppl know why the Horde had to leave, but still gets mad and calls them cowards. PPl eat this stuff up haha
+Alcaedus "Its been written this way" this is what people need to understand yeah. we know that logically it could've happen in a totally different, a better way, but thats the plot we were given, there is nothing to argue about.
Lol I wasn't arguing bro. I simply stated why I felt this dude was wrong to say the Horde were cowards. You didnt see me insult anyone did you? There's no argument, just a vivid defense for the horde since they weren't showing cowardice at all. If Vol'jin and Thrall weren't hurt, they would've stayed and fight, plain and simple.
Its not a Horde thing, its an Orc thing. From all the people participant there (if we don't count Thrall ), Varian fighting in the arenas with orc's , having an orc for a mentor there and receiving the name Lo'Gosh - his mentality is closest to ,, Victory or death"' .
It's an orc thing, not a Horde one. As for Varian this had nothing to do with ''Victory or Death'', it was a calculated move with the intent of saving his army. Had he had any other option you can bet he wouldn't be stupid enough to not take it.
"live to fight another day" That's the main theme of this and the Horde side. The alliance lacked the oversight of the battle, yet the Horde made the call for retreat cause they knew they were outmatched.
People who see this, please don't watch it with feelings but with the eyes of warfare. The tactical retreat the Horde made was a clear message even for the alliance, yet they stayed because they lacked the overview of the battlefield and thought that they were winning. Therefor varian sacrificed himself so that others may live to fight another day.
My entire life playing WoW I've always been 100% for the Horde (and still am when it comes to alliance vs horde) but god damn Legion made me also love the Alliance.
When he sacrifices himself it reminds me of the scene betweem him and his son at Siege of Orgrimmar. Anduin: Father, what are you doing?! Varian: What a king must do
Varians death scream still ranks as the best I've ever heard in any medium, be it movies, shows or games. The VA is really emptying his full lungs and letting his voice crack and go high. It's absolutely amazing.
Farewell, Varian. You were not perfect, but you grew to become a true King. My king. You and your son learned a lot from each other, may he lead with honor as you did. I hope you find peace where you are now, with your dear wife, I'm sure she's really proud of what you've become. You will never be forgotten, Lo'gosh. For Azeroth.
Vol'jins Befehl - "Lasst die Horde nicht sterben". Siehe Zwischensequenz auf Hordenseite. His question: "Why did Sylvanas leave???" "Vol'jin's command: 'Do not let de Horde die.' - as seen in the Horde cinematic."
The only gnome I like. Mekkatorque is awesome! And this also shows why there are no gnomes in any other cinematic, because if there were, the game would consist of nothing but gnomes.
Varian stood true to his words! "What a King must do!" He knew,when he saw the fel reaver, that its either his sacrifice or his people dead, and he made his choice.
indeed, unlike Vol'jin who retreated and died like a bitch on the throne Remember Victory or Death? The Alliance was more horde than the horde itself that day
Weeaboos Hunter Vol’jin fulfilled his duty to his people by surviving a battle neither faction could win long enough to name a worthy successor to look after them once he was gone. Varian chose to ignore the signal to retreat and paid the ultimate pride for his foolish pride. Worse yet, he left his people in the hands of two self-serving, corrupt warmongers who are using his own son as a puppet. If anyone went out like a bitch and left a legacy stained with failure, it’s definitely Varian.
@@weeabooshunter4759 Yeah, Vol'jin for sure after being mortally wounded and giving orders to save the rest as his death was going the make the Horde leaderless, said ''Oh, and please take me to the safety'' He fell uncouncious and Silvanas just dragged him along . On a hopeless battle he was just the unlucky leader that fell first.
I love how if you don't see both cinematics you don't realize why the archers pulled back. It's very realistic to see the events from both sides. It makes the conflict between hoard and alliance very realistic
@@richardshiflett5181so by your logic, the alliance are cowards to? They also ran. If the horde stayed they would have ALL died. Not just Varian and Voljin.
Almost four years later and I still absolutely love this cinematic. Varian's screams as he's being destroyed by fel energy, Genn yelling at the end, Shalamayne being left in the dirt with the light going out. Always been a Horde player but damn this was and is so epic.
Oh yes. Let us all die at the Broken Shore so that the Legion can overrun everything else because all leaders are dead! That seems like a logical decision.
one other note, why does the horde see 90% of this, but the alliance is told almost nothing of why the horde fell back? if you havent seen it already, i highly advise it.
Wrathgate 2.0 probably. Also Mekkatorque is the exact opposite of the gnome stereotype. Damn shame his people are seena s comic reliefs when in fact they're the most advanced race in terms of technology in the World (SoO displays that very well). I wish more gnomes would be able (lorewise) to take down 3 troggs at once like Mekkatorque once did....
Steve Urkel Yes. Its because I suck. Its not like I have an Alt on horde with the same class , specc etc.. but smh I win with my horde character but lose with my Alliance.
By far THE best cinematic for a new wow addon! The broken shore was so freaking god damn good and top of that this was just a PREPATCH! They did this all just for generating a hype for the next addon, they never did this effort before or after legion. And the cinematic nailed it so hard, everywhere is danger and regardless what we do the legion was stronger at this point and really felt like a serious danger to us and azeroth. peak writing
No he went there to stop Guldan from corrupting the horde and obtain the Horde for himself and make them into the Iron Horde, he gave them advanced technology that OU Horde didn't have when they came to invade. He went there specifically to stop Guldan and be made Warchief.
Thank you my king for showing me why Aliance is so bloody awesome... first char in vanilla was an aliance warrior and you just reminded me how awesome we are... this is the 2nd time I cried. Last time was when Arthas died :( . Being Aliance makes me even more proud. PS: The way they killed Tirion is just pathetic... He is one of the greatest paladins and they made him die in such a stupid way...
I know he dies... but that happens during the Retribution Paladin questline. And personally, I don't mind that we all get the Ashbringer, not at all. For a start, it wasn't a Legendary Weapon like Shadowmourne or Thunderfury, but an NPC weapon; and secondly, you can always opt out and get sword and shield or the hammer instead :) I have a fair few palas and I'll have one of them get the Ashbringer, another will be full on tank and I'll have a Holy Pala. :)
TenDisks It is ok to be able to have it ... but it should be a rare drop hard to obtain... now every random casual player can have it... back in the day you had to prove your worth for such great weapons :) corrupted Ashrbinger was a privilege
Scourgeborne well I don't really wanna get into all this too deeply - every casual player is going the leader of his order hall and all that - personally. as I said, I don't mind it. Each to their own, I guess :)
That was a dick move from Sylvanas, eh? ( I watched the Horde Cinematic, i'm horde too, but was a "How to be a pussy" tutorial ) JK, she saved everyone
The Horde was outnumbered by the legion one to infinite, Sylvanas had no such choice either fight and die or save the rest of the horde from being massacred. In a battle where you losing and outnumbered, it is always the wise choice to retreat and fight another day. There is no such thing as cowardice in a battle like this.
Aodaic There, was it so hard, guys? This man just rocked the cinematics. Comment-bait like mine are not to be trusted ( Yes, i was trolling you guys, but for a good purpose ) Lesson learned, good day *Bows and leaves*
Alternate Ending... King Varian: “GET WINDRUNNER’S ARCHERS TO CLEAR THE SKY...” *Horde messenger arrives.* Messenger: “Lord Varian. Our WarChief Vol'jin is in critical condition and we need to regroup. Lady Sylvanas is aware that the Alliance will be out gunned without the Horde and is willing to give you enough cover fire to successfully fallback.” King Varian: (Processes this for a moment.) “Very well. In return, I will send some of our best healers to tend for your WarChief.” *Both sides begin retreat in unison. Less casualties in the retreat. King Varian and Vol'jin survive. Jaina Proudmoore stops being a paranoid bitch. And everyone is chill.*
Its a point I been bringing up for two years now. The Horde left the Alliance for dead on the Broken Shore, leaving Varian no choice but to sacrifice himself to save everyone else. Instead of retreating together as a unified force, the cowards simply booked it and left them there. Hadn't they deduced the cowards left them for dead with the sound of the horn, all of them would have been wiped out. Its why Genn and Jaina have a right to be angry at the Horde's cowardice.
@@Ghoffman91 Good to know that after two years, the fact that Horde was fighting on two fronts while Alliance held one still didn't sink in. How dare they, cowards, should've lasted even longer in this slaughter for glorious Alliance to acknowledge and organize a retreat... by a gunship no less. And THEN they can go back to their normal ships on foot with the Legion breathing down their backs, once the Alliance finally got its shit together.
I know this is way later, but when Varian closed his eyes @1:57 he new he had to scarify himself to save Genn and the Alliance's ship. That literally brought me to tears during the Cinematic, and still now. Great work as always!
My father taught me many things; strength, devotion, courage, but the most important thing he taught me was sacrifice. Without his sacrifice, the Alliance wouldn't have survived and our world wouldn't have been saved. His actions will echo throughout the ages and his roar will strike fear into our greatest adversaries.
I love the look on Gul'dan's face after Varian says "For the Alliance". Gul'dan was furious that he wasn't able to break Varian's spirit. In the end Varian still stood by his principles and who he was.
That's the saying of the Orcs, not the Horde as a whole. That is why I still prefer the Horde from Wc3 (tauren trolls orcs) which were 10x badass as this Horde is
As if the entire horde sacrifices itself only that the Alliance can carry their victory away and most likely take over Azeroth after that. There is a difference between bravery and stupidity.
Because the Horde couldn't even clear trash mobs? Gets "ambushed" according to all the horde players, on the high ground? Loses their gunship, again? She pussied out because the Horde is a faction of failures.
yeah it is, yet you see alliance players complaining about how the horde is favored at everything yet a fucking thrash mob killed vol'jin and they made varyan look like a real hero
Maybe you should watch both, the Legion planed that battle, those demons that 'died' will be back as they didn't die in the twisted nether. The Legion drew out the leaders of both factions to deal huge blows to both sides. I'm calling it, Varian is going to come back. Sylvanas was getting over run herself, broken shore was a lost cause the moment they attacked.
Considering the fact that the Horde video also shows Varian's sacrifice, we all may encounter him yet. Maybe as a Legion boss or maybe Sylvanas tries to revive him to smooth the tension. Would explain her arc in Stormheim.
Bindair Dundat I hope nobbel covers ALL the story arcs in legion because WoW just isnt really fun for me anymore and my pc wont run WoW good at the moment. But i love the lore. If WoW was singleplayer like Skyrim i would be all over that.
I remember right after I finished the Broken Shore event that everyone in trade chat at Stormwind wanted to get a raid together to go kill Sylvanas right then and there, which I think did happen. Good times
Every time I watch this cinematic I am reminded of the true honor and courage Varian and the alliance represent! I am honored to have fought and bled by your side my king. You will be missed by your alliance and your foes alike. LONG LIVE THE KING! LONG LIVE THE ALLIANCE!
Rest in Peace, King Varian Wrynn, the most badass king Azeroth has ever known... *Takes my draenic warhammer in hand* Death to the cowards of the Forsaken! This is the last time they betrayed us! We demand justice!
Seeing this from the Alliance perspective after going through it as Horde really makes it seem as if "we" abandoned the Alliance in that battle, but from the perspective of the Alliance they didn`t see the endless tide of demons flanking the Horde forces. If the Horde had stayed it would have changed nothing except adding more corpses on the ground. I tip my hat off to Varian though, he went out like a true hero.
@thin vo & mrantidk If the horde wouldn't retreat, the expansion would be over soon after that battle. And you wouldn't even get to play it. Because the legion would face no real resistance if all azeroth forces were dead. It was a foolish attempt to rush down to tomb of sargeras without any knowlage of enemy power at the first place. You are a clueless fool if you think otherwise.
The fact that Gul'dan was the one who willed Garona to kill King Llane all those years ago makes Varian's last stand that much more powerful. Face to face with his most hated enemy. He gave his all and failed. Just like his father did, but there's still a certain peace about it, killed by the same person who killed his father. Llane was a good king, but no warrior. Varian was a good king and a warrior, but the fact that they couldnt defeat the same enemy brings about a sense of comfort I think. Varian achieved so much in his life, much more than his father did, so when he didn't do more than Llane in this situation, I can imagine Varian feeling like a child again, comforted by a parent. Back when he wasn't stronger than him at anything, it could've brought him a sense of nostalgia and again, comfort, had Varian felt this during his last moments. And the fact that Varian was so devastated after Stormwind's Fall once he made it to Lordaeron, he still peaked over the balcony in the Capital City's throne room to witness the formation of the Alliance of Lordaeron. Years later, he fights beside two of its original members - Genn Greymane and Gelbin Mekkatorque, against a shade of the same enemy, Gul'dan. Of course Varian's last words were "For the Alliance"... brilliant, just so fucking brilliant.
