Legionaries vs. Phalanx | The Ultimate Battle of Cynoscephalae | 197 BC 

This was awesome! Good work on covering this battle!

Well bro feel betta get betta God bless 🙏

Kas sa mängid ikka veel Rome kahte? Ja mis moode sa kasutad?

Hi, a questioni about huge Battle with DEI. What Is the buggest Battle that Is possibile tò do with also a Power CPU? Sorry for this question, i am new tò gaming PC, i only want to play TW at maximum ahaha.

Why didn't the Romans use their field "artillery" (balistas etc )? wasn't it develloped yet ?

pullo was last seen fighting 5 pikemen at once from sword range whilst his centurion was ordering him back into formation

ok then it wasnt just me hearing that

@@randomguy6152 I'm assuming they pierced him like a pin cushion? Oh well, Ave Rome.

He wasn't even born

@@oronzobarberio5029 must be his ancestor lol

and brutal

Myrmidom Ares and Rome vs Persian Empire

much encouragement!

@@Maikel-dg7tq Means a lot man

Glad to have you back!

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No worries Brother, we're drinking to your health and hoping you get better soon.

Thank you very much!

thanks Theo!

Thank you so much!!

Thank you very much!

Thank you so much 😀

thanks Rick!

Thank you, Corey!

More to come!

Thank you!

Interesting, but confusing to see who's who in the close up battle scenes.

@@kjm2199 Right, I think we need labels in the close up shots to see who each army belongs to.

@@kjm2199 sword infantry are Romans, long pikes are Macedonians :)

Thanks!

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Ek is vaar trek. Ek spraak Saxon Knight.

you make a good point. It may seem like a straightforward action to take by the Roman tribune, however when you are in the heat of battle and no ''bird's eye view'', then this would me extremely hard to pull off.

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Mi spiace ma i Romani non li distruggeva nessuno 😉

The early republican army, yes if on proper terrain, but not the reformed legions. Terrain was the primary reason Macedon never invaded Italy and also the reason why the native Italian, Latin and Etruscan tribes would abandon the phalanx formation as Italian terrain was far too hilly and uneven for the phalanx to maneuver into battle formation properly. There was never a chance for Macedon to conquer Italy.

@@jaobidan2358 Yet the Macedonians did well in Greece, not known for its flat terrain.

@@julianmarsh8384 But they were fighting fellow Greeks...Phalanx vs Phalanx so both sides suffered a disadvantage. The Phalanx army that gained control of either the flat terrain or the hill won the battle...And the Macedonian Phalanx had a range advantage over the standard Greek hoplites.

@@jaobidan2358 The phalanx, as developed under Philip and Alexander, represented a true combination-of-arms and it was the heavy cavalry that won the battles. Long gone by the time Roman vs Macedon. Heavy cavalry was abandoned, I suppose, due to its high cost.

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Yes it was

great idea. Progression, not perfection :)

They would still be defeated. Manipular Legions is superior to the Macedonian-Greco Phalanx no matter who is on command on the Macedonian side.

Makes you wonder what would have happened if Alexander would have still been alive.

@@johndorilag4129 Depends on when they would have clashed, if was within Alexander's lifetime Rome would have been doomed. Rome was still Struggling with Samnites around the time Alexander had conquered everything in known World as far as India. Roma had yet to unite Italia and did not yet have the huge pools of manpower to draw from, they had also yet to hit the Marian Period and the Military Reforms that came with them. The Romans did not yet have a Professional Army during this period, the Macedonians did. Romans would have had to return to tend their fields and farms, the Macedonians didn't. Also the Macedonians were masters of Siege Craft long before the Romans. Almost all of the Siege Craft the Romans would later Adopt came from the Greeks and Macedonians. Siege Towers, Batter Rams, Ballista all Greek inventions during the Macedonian Hegemony.

@@ricksmith9088 Yup. Many of the Diadochi or Successors lived well into their 70s and 80s. If Alexander had done the same, could be a different World all together that we now live in.

@@rcmunro22 The Romans were masters of innovation and improvisation. It will not be as easy as you think.

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yes, it was on purpose. Good for you for noticing :)

Thanks, Paul!

Thank you very much!

@@AdituLaudisMMXXI you're welcome.

thank you Milites!

The Roman method of war using massive scuta and pila was pretty perfect to counter the Macedonian principle of war. Both armies are elite and both conquered the world in their own times, only exemplifying their greatness, its impossible to determine a more successful method of war, but against each other, they prove differently.

@@lostvayne3977 well if the Roman method was that perfect to counter the Macedonian phalanx why when they did clash head to head, the Romans couldn't resist and gave ground...only when the phalanx was outflanked due to its half deployment they started exploiting the gap having success. Furthermore, the fact that formations with long pikes like the Macedonian phalanx were used later by different armies throughout history in combined arms mode (spanish terthios, swiss pikeman, etc) proves the efficiency and the durability of the concept that the Macedons had about the wall of pikes joined by cavalry and light infantry.

You need excellent general to succeed with phalanx all times. With Roman Legions a competent general is enough.

@@sairadha674 I disagree, whenever the Romans had competent generals they lost battles, you need good generals at all times, and in all armies, also you need a well-informed and trained staff that can follow the army's movements. Nicanor proved himself incopetent and on the limits of treason by not developing his phalanx at the side of Phillip...on the other hand the unknown Roman officer who took the initiative to turn his troops and attack the flank of Phillip, arose as the decisive factor. of the battle. To further prove the fact that sometimes Great generals (with capital G) are forever marked by the faults of their staff, who on the planet thinks today that Napoleon is not a great general because he lost the battle in Waterloo... no one. Well, he lost the battle because Grouchy and a 30'000 men detachment failed to follow the Prussians and join the rest of the army at the crucial moment ...

@@yanniskts7664 The better question is why the Phalanax did not work like medieval Swiss pikemen. Swiss were terror until reliable gunpowder came into the picture.

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I edit a lot

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I added the full song list in the video description

@@AdituLaudisMMXXI Thanks a lot!

The other side are throwing javelin too. It's a skirmish

700 killed is unrealistic. The victors always exaggerate losses on their side

The romans often excluded the losses of their allies and auxiliaries. If a roman army lost 700 citizen soldiers, the public learned of 700 losses. But not about the other few thousand. 700 casualties sounds better.

My bad

some good points

So the Greeks were clearly wining the romans to the main line. The only reason that romans won was the Elephands! We were stronger soldiers and we were killing the romans to the battle line. It was clear that romans will lose. the only reason that romans won is because they flang us. And they flang us because they had the Elephands!

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I know, it's not well optimized for large armies. I have to edit a lot

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It's called the Roman Empire, not the Macedonian Empire, you shouldn't have worried.

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@Aditu Laudis thanks for the response, your videos quality are amazing how long have you had your pc for?

Awesome! You're welcome.

So the Greeks were clearly wining the romans to the main line. The only reason that romans won was the Elephands! We were stronger soldiers and we were killing the romans to the battle line. It was clear that romans will lose. the only reason that romans won is because they flang us. And they flang us because they had the Elephands!

@@giannastavros4653 u realize even wothout the elephants the versatility wouldve still won rome the fight

@@giannastavros4653 "Dreams are reality"

only when they come true... but they didn't!!

The manipular legion was much more versatile and flexible than the phalanx... that's history

Thank you and good question! It is possible the cavalry did not perform best in the rough terrain they were fighting on.

Well...we probably never going to have that answer.

The terrain was very rugged

As a Saxon Knight. We don't believe in idiots.

So the Greeks were clearly wining the romans to the main line. The only reason that romans won was the Elephands! We were stronger soldiers and we were killing the romans to the battle line. It was clear that romans will lose. the only reason that romans won is because they flang us. And they flang us because they had the Elephands!

@@giannastavros4653 NAI αδερφέ είχαμε καλύτερη πολεμική μηχανή,και δεν ήταν οι ελέφαντες καθε άλλο μολις τρομοκρατηθούν δηνιουργουν περισσόρερα προβλήματα ειδικά στους αναβατες.Δεν είναι άλογα.Απ΄΄ως οι υστέρηση 8.000 ανθρων σχεδον 1 μεραρχία...δυστυχως παρόλο που κερδίσαμε όλες τις πρώτες μάχες ,μας υπερφαλαγγίσαν απο το πλάι. Αλλά η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ ΦΑΛΑΓΓΑ έχει μεγαλυτερη αιγλη και διδάσκεται σε όλα τα πανεπιστήμια ανα τον κόσμο. Να εισαι καλά καλό ΠΑΣΧΑ

phalanx WAS BETTER by far!!

Macedonians

yes, only if will have your sister afterwards.

this was before Alex, wasn't Phillip his father?

@mentalasylumescapee6389 No this wasn't Alexander's father ,this was Philip V,this battle was post Philip I and Alexander the Great of Macedon, when the Roman Republic was the rising power,and Macedon/Greece was the reigning power Still..

The phalanx was very static and hard to order any kind of twisting maneuvering. The phalanx only moves in one direction, frontal.

The phalanx wasn’t completely obsolete yet imo. It did hold well and serve its purpose in some confrontations with the Romans. At the battle of Thermopylae for example between Antiochus and the Romans. Here Philip also held the high ground. The only problem is the Macedonian army became less flexible after it’s glory days. Alexander had foot companions and hypaspists, large bodies of hetairoi to complement phalanges, making his armies incredibly mobile. Hammer and anvil. If Philip had an army with more mobility, all he would need to do would be to hold the Romans down with the phalanges, swing around his cavalry to outflank them in a pincer while flooding the gaps in the Macedonian lines with hypaspist reserves.