Leisure Travel Vans at the Tampa RV show 2023

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Do you want to see the floor plan overview for all of the different leisure travel vans at the Tampa RV SuperShow? Then watch this video! In it, you'll see a floor plan comparison for all of the different leisure travel van models on display at the show. This will help you make the best decision for which van is the perfect fit for your needs.
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@rogerz8051 Год назад

We just got back from the Tampa show too. We were so excited to be able to tour all those great floorplans. Amazing! Then we were totally deflated when we talked to the young woman sales rep there at the display. She told us the wait is now 3 years for the Unitys and 5 years for Wonders and there's no price guaranty! Holy moley !!! We're already in our late 60's. No idea if we'll even be able to RV 5 years from now - let alone be able to afford 5 more years of price adjustments. Guess we'll hang on to our current rig a while longer while we shop elsewhere. Maybe a used one will pop up. It was a great dream while it lasted.

@Pagosa Год назад

Used is definitely the way to go if you want to get started now

@jtosti66 Год назад

Great video, so eye opening…thanks 👍🏼

@Pagosa Год назад

Glad it was helpful

@markhamilton8765 Год назад

Thanks Brandon for the great overview and your thoughts on each. I know it was an effort for you to get down to Florida for the show; we appreciate it!

@Pagosa Год назад

Thanks Mark, had a great time!

@johntravels Год назад

Looking at the floorplans, I was confident I wanted the Wonder RTB; but when I saw it in person, it felt cramped. I also didn’t like the multiple steps, I could see lots of tripping ahead. Initially, the Wonder FTB was my least desired plan… I saw a used Wonder FTB at a dealer, and I was so surprised I had an immediate love for that large-feeling interior with lots of windows. It was so open and felt much lighter, larger, and more livable realistic floor plan for me. So, I ordered the Wonder FTB, coming in March. If I only went by the website, I would have never ordered that model. So, I agree with Brandon. It’s important to see them in person. Also, I noticed that in all models, the white upper cabinets at eye level make a big difference in the perception of space. Thanks for showing us the LTV’s!

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes, I wish more people could tour units to get the real feel

@noworries.8601 Год назад

I had the same experience when I toured the WRL and RTB. I did not appreciate the hourglass layout. My WFTB arrives in March as well. This video definitely confirmed my decision. Thank you both.

@dionemcguinness7383 Год назад

We just ordered one too, after almost ordering the MBL... I haven't been in one, but I gravitate to bright open spaces and this one felt right after watching all the videos as nauseum. Congratulations and I hope you have many happy years (and miles) of travel.

@incaschultz1536 Год назад

It was nice to see you andSandy at the show We appreciate your honest tours thank you

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes! great to see everyone

@lauraclegg7623 Год назад

It is very important for us to have a separate made up bed from the living area. One of us is often up before the other when camping or at times one of us has been ill while camping and really appreciate the separate space. The AWD is also necessary for us and the garage is a big plus. Hopefully we won’t be disappointed

@Pagosa Год назад

That's a great scenario for the duel spaces for sure

@60Airflyte Год назад

We just flew back today from the show. We came all the way from California. After seeing the much higher prices and the even longer waits I’ve decided against the LTV. It’s been #1 on my list since before the pandemic but the prices have gotten too crazy and the wait time too long. I hated letting the dream go but it was it took all of 15 seconds. If I find a used one someday at the right price I will definitely consider it. I still think it’s the best of its kind on the market.

@eddiehernandez7212 Год назад

Made a special trip from Indiana to the Tampa show just to see the Leisure models. Loved the models quality but not the wait to get one. Might have to go to my second option.

@gosman949 Год назад

as more of you drop your dream of owning a LTV, business will drop and hopefully prices too. Wait times will get smaller and smaller. LTV is cutting their own throats.

@VanLifeByTheRiver Год назад

LTV was top on my list too. However, the wait times are unacceptable even though we are younger RV’ers comparatively. We went with a 2023 Tiffin Wayfarer 25RW and we are loving it. It was available immediately and we knocked off 27% of MSRP making it a bargain in comparison. Customer service at Tiffin has been amazing as we had some minor issues that were taken care of immediately. So there are some quality alternatives to LTV. Tiffin does not have Transit chassis which is a deal breaker for some and I don’t blame folks for being wary of the MB Sprinter chassis although ours has done well in the short period we have had it.

@gosman949 Год назад

and what is your second choice Eddie?

@Pagosa Год назад

The used market is definitely getting more units available, and I would choose a used LTV over a new other brand for sure. Not just the quality, but the community.

@Grammapro Год назад

Love the comparison Brandon! Wish I was there! Thanks a lot for this!

@Pagosa Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@nbragtop Год назад

Such a great informative video. Thank you !

@Pagosa Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@robertjones6324 Год назад

I originally wanted the WRTB. The main reasons were AWD and the large rear garage. Plus, the beds can always be made up, and better for fishing buddies. Due to delivery time, I ended up with the WRL. Much better interior layout, but very little outdoor storage. The shower is very tiny for a 5-11 two hundred lb guy. It is acceptable. I agree, the WFTB is a winner! Very good review!

@Pagosa Год назад

Love that FTB, but any LTV is fantastic!

@ghoover111 Год назад

Brandon, it was nice to see all the floor plans. Thanks. I imagine a big selling point for RTB is the huge gear garage.

@Pagosa Год назад

The Wonder has the big bike garage. The Unity is storage is smaller and if you are needing lots of outdoor storage, then RTB is a good choice

@truemagneticnorth Год назад

Thank you so much Brandon for this super informative video!! You are so right about the importance of seeing these models in person -to do so may even be a game changer….FYI, I just noticed (from the specs) that the beds on the TB Wonder are 32” wide while the TB Unity beds are 34” wide-this might make a difference for some people.

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes, the Front twin bed prob smaller due to it's use as a seating area as well.

@itsPreznt Год назад

so glad you included the 24FTB, the one I have picked too, viewing only, there aren't any in Canada anywhere and the dealers are not allowed to have models to keep for showing, only selling. I am a former 24FX owner and a brief one at that. What go me in the end to put the "FOR SALE" sign up was that my partner just couldn't appreciate the smaller space and for me it was the frustrating bathrm, too small and the door closure drove me nuts. ANyway, you didn't mention that the twins come together to make a queen bed, and that it has storage underneath the 2 beds. My only improvement would be to have a bigger table mount in the centre between the beds. To me, the slide out table from the drawer holder in the storage area isn't big enough. That was the one thing I didn't like about it. And I also would like there to be other colour options for the covers for the beds. I guess custom made after market is the only option currently. Thanks for this. So wish I could go to these shows!

@Pagosa Год назад

The shows are a fantastic way to see the entire lineup. Hope you get to go soon

@Ricardo-SW Год назад

Great overview, Brandon, packed a lot into there. Watch out, Dean! :) On the "lounge" seats in the MBLs, I'd prefer NOT reclining the seat back when the footrest goes up. Horses for courses.

@Pagosa Год назад

Haha, think Dean's job is safe lol. The wonder MBL couch was very comfortable.

@J_Brian Год назад

the MBL is great! I wish the FX corner lounge turned into a bigger possible twin/full bed. Otherwise, I’d be a huge fan & wish you could lower down the bed without extending the pop out.. However, im sure you could modify it by adding some additional base with a custom foam bedding area to fill in.

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes, I've seen folks make a bed back there using the ottoman

@johnnicholson427 Год назад

Agree on seeing floor plans. Our original thoughts of an RTB changed to an RL. We like the flexibility of two separate living areas by day, bedroom by night. The supply chain issues have kept us biting our nails for two years; no more. However, we did not abandon LTV. We truly believe they are the standard by which others are compared. A used 2021 Wonder RL has come to our rescue. Like others have mentioned, 3 to 5 year waiting times with open-ended prices made us change our thinking. Who knows what the future holds with health and age related issues…

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes, go now if you can!

@steveschultz Год назад

Thanks for the review Brandon. The Unity TB you were in is my actual unit. You, and a few hundred others, got to see it before me--disappointing! I should be picking it up within a few days. Regarding the close quarters/cramped space of the twin bed, for someone like me, traveling either with my 85-year old dad or my 35-year old son, the twin beds are the only option other than a one-bed setup. I would prefer the murphy bed or the rear lounge for me alone, but since most trips will include me plus a guest, the twin bed set-up is the only way. Airstreams have a bunk bed option. Bunk beds would be a nice LTV alternative that would open up the floor space.

@tylerbradley4175 Год назад

I'm with you on the Wonder FTB...not sure why more people do not consider it. Great room inside and storage outside. I have a Wonder MB and that would be my choice if I were to get a different LTV.

@Pagosa Год назад

I was very surprised how good it was.

@doctordetroit4339 Год назад

Great info sir! I am waiting for sanity to return to the market (who knows when that will be), I was planning on the RTB but you got me thinking about that MBL now. My main concern is diesel vs gas. I really love MBs, they are classy and you know it and feel it when you drive them. But diesel fuel is getting a bad rap and that doesn't look like it will change anytime soon.

@Pagosa Год назад

You can get the MBL in the gas wonder. I don't have a problem with diesel, but gas is much more convenient and no worries about def.

@liveslowsailfastonlanier1374 Год назад

Thank you for the floor plan comparison. Very helpful. Does the front twin have the fresh water tank inside the cabin? Trying to assess how well it may do in below freezing weather.

@Pagosa Год назад

None of the Leisures are four seasons, so not a great choice for winter Rving

@BrittMFH Год назад

Such a great video. I regretted being able to see them all in person, so thanks. From all the feedback here it sounds as though LTV isn't a great option due to waiting time. This makes me so sad! I wanted a rear lounge model so much. What would the answer be? For LTV to expand their production facilities and hire more workers, very probably resulting in lower quality? 😕

@ashleywilson6443 Год назад

Thank you for posting! I’ve placed my order for Unity CB & anxiously waiting! I’ve never had opportunity to see the new color schemes. Do you mind sharing what the color choices were in the MBL in this video?

@Pagosa Год назад

I believe those were dove upholstery and white oak.

@gwrace Год назад

@pagosa At the reveal a few months ago LTV mentioned the lounge seating would be the same between the two models. Just confirmed with LTV that both production versions of MBL Unity and Wonder will have the same recliners and table leg setup.

@Pagosa Год назад

Belive that's correct. Can't recall exactly what they said at the show.

@dennismcclendon93 Год назад

We went to the show and was excited to see all the LTV's but no way I'm waiting that long to get one. I had not seen a Regency brand which is similar with a 2 month wait and built in Ft Worth,TX. I guess I may do a Travato KL to get between point A & B and can have power at anytime. Not near as spacious, but oh well. LTV apparently hasn't plans to build another plant line since they can get MSRP +++ with a 3 year fill rate.

@Pagosa Год назад

The good news is most regency's can fit the pagosa supply cutting boards and skylight covers 😉

@dennismcclendon93 Год назад

@@Pagosa looks like the factory is somewhat close to your area around DFW and I just happened to see the setups there by chance. I thought they were built pretty solid. He said they only do about 12 a month and cabinetry is all built in house. Have you toured the site?

@Pagosa Год назад

@@dennismcclendon93 I haven't toured the factory, but I'm sure they do a great job

@dennismcclendon93 Год назад

@@Pagosa yea, having a top notch RV with the LTV, really no need. Keep up the great videos. Enjoy watching them.

@gwrace Год назад

We checked out Regency. They are just up the road from us. The quality, interior and design are sub-par to the LTV and they no longer offer the Transit chassis.

@corymcintosh6975 Год назад

As I have not gotten the opprutinty to check these out, I hope you are right. We are getting a Untiy MBL in March. It is not exactly what we wanted, Interior and exterior color not what we wanted, but it is a show model and we are getting it about 8 months sooner than the one we have on order. Having in a for this summer instead of not, was the deciding factor. We are over the top excited about getting it.

@Pagosa Год назад

Great move! Time is so valuable, so get started now is better than getting the exact RV colors and such.

@williamsmith3952 Год назад

Great video. However, I did not see the Unity RL. Did I miss it? One of the big advantages of the Unity mid bathroom floor plans is the ability to swing the door to the shower & close off the front of the coach from the back. In the case of the Rear Lounge this makes it into two separate rooms. My wife can be watching TV or sleeping in the back while I watch TV or work on the computer up front. We have a 2020 Unity RL, finding it roomy for an RV with no slide (our preference). After reading all the comments for this RU-vid video I would encourage your followers to refer back to your videos comparing the Wonder and Unity. I’m biased but I prefer the Unity because I could get an auto leveling system, ducted air conditioning, better gas mileage w/diesel, & no step-up from driver’s cabin to RV housing. Of course, it’s hard to beat the build quality of any Leisure Travel Van!! My opinion: if you had an RV with multiplex wiring and control of all functions from a keypad or your phone you would really be a fan.

@Pagosa Год назад

I think I just posted the Wonder RL, but agree it's great for folks needing some separation for sure. Hopefully Wonder gets levelers at some point

@paulgoodwin415 Год назад

The macerator toilet is a problem on the MBL and I believe the baggage compartments under the slide don't come out with the slide like your fx. Almost impossible to access with the slide deployed.

@alexrest Год назад

Thanks for the video Brandon! Just out of curiosity, were you able to confirm the larger display in the cab of the Unity models?

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes, the units that had the small display were one offs that they were using for show models.

@evquietcornerct3210 Год назад

you need to consider outside storage as well.

@Pagosa Год назад

Yes, if you are someone needing a bike garage, the Wonder RTB is the best. The Unity outside storage is smaller.

@melshel79 Год назад

Can you sit comfortably on the front twin bed Wonder or do you find them too deep to be comfortable because your feet don’t hit the floor or your back is at an awkward angle? Also , do you know if the front couches have seat belts? Thank you for the info. It’s been very helpful. Great job!

@Pagosa Год назад

They don't have seatbelts, and I'm tall, so very comfortable for me. A shorter person would prob use it more as a chaise lounge with feet up

@adam-hd7kg Год назад

The CB is the best one.

@Pagosa Год назад

I missed it as it was at the Mercedes display.

@airlinepilotguy Год назад

@@Pagosa I was hoping you were going to review the Corner Bed. That's the one I ordered sight unseen back in April 2021. After I saw it at the Mercedes Benz Vans display, I now can say I picked the right one for me. Very spacious. I think you'd like it. Hoping to get mine in a few months.

@adam-hd7kg Год назад

@@airlinepilotguy I have looked at all the models except for the new murphy bed lounge…I am really happy with the corner bed. It feels a lot bigger than the other models.

@creationsfromlace6894 Год назад

Twin Bed … allows one to sleep while the other is up (insomnia) and, as you noted, the beds are made.

@Pagosa Год назад

true!

@dkaybee Год назад

On the website, I always like the Front Twin bed and the Corner bed floorplans the best. Any thoughts about the corner bed? Is the bathroom as tiny on that one as those mid-ship bathrooms you show here?

@Pagosa Год назад

The bathroom is basically the same as the FX. So small, but different than the midship

@ralphprice5136 Год назад

Unfortunately, I attempted to place an order for a Unity and was told wait is near three years now. They want a $10k deposit to sit on for those three years. I’ll have to stick with my Airstream.

@Pagosa Год назад

Can't go wrong with the Airstream

@eddiehernandez7212 Год назад

On one of your videos you stated that you also bought an airstream. What model did you buy and why. We have a Silverado 2500 HD so we could haul an airstream. Went through a few of them and were pleasantly surprised.

@Pagosa Год назад

@@eddiehernandez7212 we have a Globetrotter 27FBT. Your 2500 will be good for most Airstreams if not all. Just check you payload and GCVWR.

@eddiehernandez7212 Год назад

@@Pagosa thanks for getting back. Looked at this one and it was nice. Would prefer the queen bed. Can you explain again about the issue with possibly getting locked out because of a simple issue with the door?

@markgoldner3083 Год назад

I’m concerned that the sliders could be an issue down the road ( leaks, noisy while traveling, mechanical issues as they age ). Any thoughts on slider / no slider on the LTV?

@Pagosa Год назад

Slide issues are very rare, but it is a moving part. But then again everything is a moving part, so you just have to weigh if you enjoy the space over the low potential that slide breaks. After 3 years, zero problems or noise from mine.

@taracarrow9977 Год назад

They really need to get to side opening cargo doors. It would make it much easier to get to stuff

@Pagosa Год назад

Tiffin has those, however I think it would make the LTV taller like the Wayfarer and that's not a good thing.

@taracarrow9977 Год назад

@@Pagosa they can be a bit smaller doors and keep the same overall footprint hopefully. I think in the past the concern was the shape of the wall/doors but I imagine they can overcome that

@taracarrow9977 Год назад

Thanks for the response!

@Pagosa Год назад

@@taracarrow9977 😃

@Revieweverything12345 Год назад

The CB version is the best

@Pagosa Год назад

That's the one I've never had the chance to take a look at

@charlenechampagne6990 Год назад

I have tried a dozen times to get my shade down so that I can fix it. There is a screw on each side of the framework however, I cannot get the ones at the top. Do you have any suggestions? I have a 2016 Libero leisure van.

@Pagosa Год назад

Hi, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but if you call LTV, I'm sure they can help you

@charlenechampagne6990 Год назад

@@Pagosa yes, I called the home office and the person was not able to help me.

@rorywade590 Год назад

The rear twin bed on Unity is so much nicer than Wonder

@Pagosa Год назад

Unity is a bit nicer for sure

@smileyel-abd9984 Год назад

Brando, I know why u like more glass cause u can sell more insulators but u know that glass is a real issue with more heat gain during sun exposure. Add to that the smaller Aventi A/C unit and you may have a serious issue with cooling that HOT BOX. Too bad LTV did not let you drive that eco boost engine Wonder cause we could of swayed u to the very dark side :)

@Pagosa Год назад

Ah, I wish I sold insulators for windows, but just the skylights. Sandy and I will be doing a video podcast on the new Aventi AC unit as she met with Truma.

@Revieweverything12345 Год назад

The unity category is much better than wonder

@Pagosa Год назад

I’m some instances, but not all anymore

@xToddmcx Год назад

Really disturbs me that the WMBL has a worse looking lounge than the UMBL. The lounge is its whole thing, worse lounge is a serious problem. But I've never been an MB fan so whatever. I have a 2023 WRL and it's great. I've had 10 people hanging out in it and another couple coming in to grab lunch. So it's funny to me that you can't stand a space that can fit that many people. But it doesn't mean you're wrong, you buy what works for you. And I think the FX is really cool, like the modern version of the Libero/Serenity floorplan. Unless someone there told you different the Unity doesn't come with an induction cooktop, it's just something in the prototype for testing.

@Pagosa Год назад

It's definitely a personal opinion on floorplan, I have friends with RLs and love them, I just like the openness of the others. Pretty sure the induction will start coming in the MBL. I believe they will go to the propane / induction duo like the winnebago view has.

@jackieagd7722 Год назад

I had a rear twin bed Winnebago View and I’m now shopping for a rear twin bed Leisure Van. I like having a separate sleeping room plus there is a third bed for guest . I’d never buy the FX or MB because of the lack of windows.

@Pagosa Год назад

MB has a driver side window in kitchen , so better than the FX in that regard

@DarrellStock Год назад

Hi Brandon, I went to the RV Show in Pleasanton, CA on January 21st and unfortunately the MBL was not there. I too like the FX, but would like to have the window above the Murphy bed fully exposed when the bed is in the stowed position. It’s NOT in the 2023 FX as you know. Dean was at the show and he said that the reason it’s not there is because the bed is 79 inches long in the FX and it would be impossible to expose the window with that bed configuration. And tall guys like us (I’m 6’1”) need the extra length. The reason why the MBL floor plan can have the window exposed is that they SHORTENED the bed by 4 inches to 75 inches. I think your viewers will want to have this information when deciding on if the MBL is the floor plan of choice. In looking at the FX and having both living areas and the spaciousness AND the longer bed, I think we will switch floor plans from the MBL to the FX. I do sure like that exposed window in the MBL, but don’t want to compromise on the bed length. Darrell

@Pagosa Год назад

Good point. I think I could give up the bed size for the window, but maybe not. Can't go wrong with the FX

@gosman949 Год назад

I think Brandon's channel will need to change as more and more people give up on the LTV. Hopefully other RV companies will see the kink in the armor of LTV and swoop in and take some of LTV's business. LTV has over extended themselves and should really cut off sales until they return to 4 month lead times.

@Pagosa Год назад

I do have the airstream now, so will do more of that as well.

@gosman949 Год назад

@@Pagosa I think pull behinds will be getting stronger with this new market. I just wish they would be more innovative too.

@gwrace Год назад

@@gosman949 We towed a 35' Travel trailer around for 15 years with a diesel Ford Excursion. Will never go back to that. It was just too long, difficult to fuel up and maneuver. Were in for the long haul with the LTV for a more nimble unit.

@Revieweverything12345 Год назад

MBL is no good, when bed come out, can’t do nothing inside

@Pagosa Год назад

It’s designed to be used as a bed at night and put up during the day