@@dudeman1983 in demo 4 it ended with "See how i laugh at you You'll never understand No you'll never understand No you'll never ever ever ever undersand See how i run from you..."
@@Entity404SFM i thought it was “See. How I laugh at you. You’ll never understand, no you’ll never understand. No, you’ll never ever *ever* understand. See how banana man. Hops over the white hot sand here he comes with some for me here he comes with some for me”
Which now that I've seen this, that may have been the plan for it. They did a lot with that song compared to when they have the demo for it. It seems they decided to make the last song a song that combines most, if not all, the previous songs. Which is pretty cool
One more- the "keep it coming back" in variations on a cloud is the same melody as the xylophone(?) before the final lyrics in dream sweet in sea major
That’s continue- and it’s also present in the beginning but much faster and plucked on strings!, around “Believe me darling, the stars were made for falling” and whatnot!
Labyrinth instrumentally references The Mind Electric, its the "someone help me" line. In Dream Sweet, there's an instrumental reference to The Mind Electric after the line: "To be where I am." Though it isn't really a reference, Dream Sweet could also be referencing the song Murders with the "she knows you heard her, staging music murder." Thank you for the great video!
Also, there could be a reference to Murders in The Mind Electric. Specifically the piano bit of "Fountain Of Infinite Mirror" It's in the background of the line "Spiraling down thy majesty..."
The Mind Electric also references Ruler of Everything. If you listen closely the "And they give it all they've got" kinda has the same rhythm as "Are the ruler of everything"
The mind electric is a conglomeration of the rest of the album, it's literally got the thumping of "Murders," it's got Labyrinth, It's almost in the exact center of the album.
I also noticed that at minute 0:42 of Tally Hall’s ‘Ruler of everything’ The Rythm and the Rhymes really looks like the “And they give it all they’ve got” part in The Mind Electric.
If you can remove the voice from the song through an app, in the French part of Dream Sweet in sea major, you will hear a robotic voice. (which could represent the voice of space station level 7).
fun fact: in "labyrinth" the female voice that sings, is singing to the rhythm of "the mind electric" (I say this because in the part of "see how the brain plays around, and you fall inside a hole you couldn't see" hear a whistle that sings the same melody)
Labyrinth and Time Machine are both in The Mind Electric! The bit before the opera has Time Machine on piano and after "doctor I can't believe I'm not me" has Labyrinth.
Time Machine appears at 1:56 of DSISM, as a robotic voice saying the chorus of “With a Time Machine”, and the last two repeats says “I wait for you”. Murders piano also appears at 4:37
Here's another one; At the end of the mind electric (for some reason this isn't in the lyric video version) at the line "Doctor, I can't tell if i'm not me" you can hear a quiet synthesizer playing one of the parts from Labryinth.
During the glitched bit before “Nuns commence incanting” in The Mind Electric, the piano part from Murders (from just before “All, for nothing at all”) is present (slowed down and pitched down). Also in The Mind Electric, during the “See how the serfs work the ground” section, the chiptunes (8-bit) part from Labyrinth is in the background. The “Keep it coming back” part in Variations on a Cloud is almost identical to the beginning of Bye, Hi (from the end of Dream Sweet). This one’s a bit of a weaker connection, but the very beginning and very end of Variations (the piano and the beat) sound like the end of Dream Sweet (the repeating notes).
Listen to Marianas Trench's No Place Like Home, it's also the amalgamation of all other songs in the album. Like an anthem of anthems. Bohemian Rhapsody material with ABA structure of music! Little Piece of Heaven by A7x is also like this. Jesus of Suburbia too.
Dream sweet in sea major genuinely feels like the beginning singer at the end theyve went through so much but they want to go back in time my assumption is because of the line "for merely dreaming we were snow" changing the original of "with sparkle crystals souls aglow" and because the beginning songs named "introduction to the snow"
In general I personally noticed that a decent amount of lines or piano melodies have the either the same flow of variations on a clouds line “why don’t we keep it coming back” for example, the piano piece at the end of Introduction to the snow has the same melody. And a decent amount of mind electric lines have the same amount of syllables as one another
hay uno que descubrí por haber escuchado tanto el album, pero no es un leitmotiv las notas de las vocales de variations on a cloud cuando cantan la parte de keep it coming back son las mismas que las del principio de la parte final de dream sweet in sea mayor (justo antes de que empieze a cantar la parte de bye, hi, sight hawaii)
Great video, one little thing. I wouldn’t call these leitmotifs? The story of the music is VERY vague. I know about the Simon thing, but there’s a reason that wasn’t included in the Final Cut. I think these are just little ideas that tie the music together, make it feel like one long song a little more than your average album might. Leitmotifs are little pieces of music that represent people or ideas, and that’s not really applicable here.
Definitely the album, I heard VOAC in T.H. I.S and Murders was originally supposed to be in Good & Evil. Also I really liked that Joe sampled ROE with VOAC ❤
also, at the end of isle unto thyself (the intro to black rainbows), it very faintly says "worker, i saw you begin i-" like when Variations on a Cloud says "Miracle Worker, i saw you begin it". am i the only one that noticed it?
Interesting vid. However, Leitmotifs only apply to motivic moments associated with a character in opera or other story based music. So these would just be motifs
@@RCFox Of course! Though, to tell the truth, these wouldn’t even be motifs if we’re being technical. Motifs are simple ideas only a few notes long that reappear multiple times throughout the piece. While the things you’ve picked out are entire phrases with cadences. Good job making musical connections a toddler could pick out though! 😉
@@funnyandoriginalnamethatev8373 I'm glad to be part of the wholesome and nice community known as the tally hall fandom, with such friendly and welcoming members such as yourself.
@@RCFox I was going to say there's no harm or shame in admitting you don't know something, but I proceeded to read OP's second comment and now I'm on your side 👍Shockingly, it IS possible to correct gaps in someone's knowledge without being a total ass about it!
