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Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 12 (2024) Review 

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@sygnus2164
@sygnus2164 5 месяцев назад
Lisa nice to see you're still doing reviews. I bought a Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga back in 2017 based on your review. Looking to get the Carbon Gen 12 this time.
@AaronMal-lq5om
@AaronMal-lq5om 4 месяца назад
When will it go on sale?
@sygnus2164
@sygnus2164 2 месяца назад
I ordered one direct from Lenovo in late June and got it mid-July. I ordered mine with all the bells and whistles to include OLED panel, 1TB SSD, 32gig RAM, and WAN card so it came it at $2500 with discounts.
@mrugendra
@mrugendra 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the review, Lisa. Was waiting for this from you. Excellent review as always. Thank you again.
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic review, as always. I just really wish they would stop soldering every single port. Even APPLE have made their ports modular. As someone that has to deal with the after-sales support of these devices, the most common failure are the soldered (inherently fragile) USB-C ports. And though most shops can solder a new one on, the average consumer can't. And the Fortune 500 businesses that buy these by the hundreds don't have time for that, and simply dispose of them. It's horrible that this has become the new standard after years of having modular charging ports...
@gravityfallscanada
@gravityfallscanada 5 месяцев назад
Battery life sucks!!! 😡
@lawrencechen7521
@lawrencechen7521 5 месяцев назад
They were designed for business and they have contract for like 36months or so. Lenovo will fix these issues as soon as 4 hours. It make no sense to make it modular any more. I suppose you were imagine about Panasonic, their toughbook were more likely built to last and some of their machines cannot be replaced at all, therefore, they basically make all modular design (CRU). Lenovo ThinkPad now is just another variant consumer products. Therefore, you cannot see things become non-soldered. Soldering is the BEST option both for performance(LPDD5 up to 8533MHz on TBX, up to 5600MHz for non-soldered slot ram) , battery life (1Hours real usage or 3hours mobilemark difference) and reliability.
@boredcompsciguy
@boredcompsciguy 5 месяцев назад
Until the spec for CAMM2 is completed, lpddr5x has to be soldered. The current CAMM spec only supports lpddr5, and in both cases there's no guarantee it'll be adopted
@LodeStarYT
@LodeStarYT Месяц назад
THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THAT'S EVER LIVED
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 5 месяцев назад
This is good. Hoping this new gen 'workstation' models don't mess it up either - that fn/ctl key switch is ace. Tradition is fine, but little improvements like this always welcome. Great review as ever.
@saintgene
@saintgene 5 месяцев назад
My Gen1 still serving me superbly.. 😅
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 5 месяцев назад
Looks interesting. But the prices for laptops have gone absolutely insane. Not as insane of a price increase as phones yet, but still. Compared to not even that long ago the performance increase isnt even that drastic!
@jet613
@jet613 5 месяцев назад
I agree, for phones especially when you jump into foldables. Price sky rockets for a flexible display ( z fold, pixel fold, etc) . The flip phone foldable not so much.
@briancarnell
@briancarnell 5 месяцев назад
Looking at Lenovo's site, they want $3k for intel core ultra 7, integrated graphics, 32gb ram, 1tb SSD, and a 1920 x 1200 display. That's ridiculous.
@brandonchutt312
@brandonchutt312 5 месяцев назад
Considering the US dollar has half the purchasing power it had 10 years ago, prices should have doubled in that time frame. So actually the prices have gone down.
@NatesRandomVideo
@NatesRandomVideo 5 месяцев назад
@@brandonchutt312correct. People have a difficult time with this math as well as the resulting knowledge of the choices being made to do it.
@pillow4casestudies
@pillow4casestudies 5 месяцев назад
@@brandonchutt312 money loses half the value in 30 years, not ten.
@online_now6834
@online_now6834 5 месяцев назад
they have a haptic touchpad now, would have loved for that to be on this review
@SenselInc
@SenselInc 22 дня назад
Same =)
@dryeokj
@dryeokj 5 дней назад
I bought X 1 Gen 6 years ago, and it still works well, except for the flickering of the monitor in the recent 1 week.
@JCRdz
@JCRdz 5 месяцев назад
This is the year to upgrade. We use the 8th generation at work and it still runs great.
@darrenmilbrandt
@darrenmilbrandt Месяц назад
Great review. My Gen 9 had 4 motherboard replacements and Lenovo is sending me a brand new Gen 12, 7 Ultra, 32 gigs of ram, 1 TB SSD with touchscreen.
@EPGalvez
@EPGalvez Месяц назад
I still have my first-gen X1 bought in 2018 and it's still running very smoothly. That's why I kove X1!
@MorrisIriga
@MorrisIriga 5 месяцев назад
Great review as usual. Don’t like that camera hump thing.
@thought-uz9nl
@thought-uz9nl 4 месяца назад
May I ask X1 carbon Gen 11 and Gen 12 which one do you prefer to choose?
@gearsghoul4500
@gearsghoul4500 21 день назад
x1 carbon will always have a place in my heart
@stuartgreen5631
@stuartgreen5631 5 месяцев назад
I’ve got a T480s and it’s the bomb. Carbon? I can’t run that fast. Long live Lenovo!
@oyoorichardokumu6443
@oyoorichardokumu6443 4 месяца назад
you are the best in analyzing
@matiasignacio206
@matiasignacio206 5 месяцев назад
here from my cabron x1 Carbon 6th gen ! regards from chile !!!
@buntasbasworo2516
@buntasbasworo2516 5 месяцев назад
well me too haha
@cliffmathew
@cliffmathew 5 месяцев назад
Their pricing strategy with very high prices and very large discounts makes me stay away. Seems like playing some psychological games to trick customers.
@lloritoovidexequield.8609
@lloritoovidexequield.8609 5 месяцев назад
Excellent review =) I'll be waiting for this model in the second-hand market haha. =)
@chuckdavis4130
@chuckdavis4130 5 месяцев назад
Great review. Thanks. I've also been using Carbon X1s since they first came out and have rarely been disappointed. Lenovo is no longer making docking stations for the Carbon X1, so I'll have to use an external dock like a CalDigit. This is probably why they moved the power switch to the side, so that the unit can be turned on without opening the lid. But............the air intakes (or exhausts) are under the keyboard. In either event, if the unit is operated with the lid closed will airflow be restricted, possibly causing overheating and throttling of the CPU/GPU/NPU?
@denardotsula2654
@denardotsula2654 4 месяца назад
Great review Lisa
@RedBeardedRabbit
@RedBeardedRabbit 5 месяцев назад
Leaving the XPS so far behind in the dust... but the battery life should be better, even with the OLED. HP figured it out...
@cionheart
@cionheart 5 месяцев назад
Still one of the best, both Lisa and the X1 Carbon 😀 I wish they would put better IPS displays in there (120 Hz, 500 nits) and battery runtime is still soso, but overall, it's still the laptop I would buy next time.
@lawrencechen7521
@lawrencechen7521 5 месяцев назад
Thinkbook 13x Gen 4 worth a mention, though they have poorer keyboard, you may see it in the bestbuy. 562nit IPS 120Hz Dispatcher display,74Wh battery outlive TPX1 about 1/3, we tested a pre-built sample a month ago, it is a beast, though not bear a TP name. lol
@edward699321
@edward699321 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic review. I just purchased the X1 Carbon Gen12 today. I hope it will be durable as I expected.
@kasandrop
@kasandrop 5 месяцев назад
You must be rich
@edward699321
@edward699321 5 месяцев назад
@@kasandrop My current company pay part of the price (WFH policy) and Lenovo E shop have also deduce around $ 513. USD for the promotion. Compare with the Carbon x 1 gen 11 price, I have no double to choose gen 12.
@willstikken5619
@willstikken5619 5 месяцев назад
@@kasandrop you must have a pretty low bar for "rich" when it comes to business laptops.
@maticulex5713
@maticulex5713 20 дней назад
@@edward699321 what do you think of it so far?
@chalky3320
@chalky3320 5 месяцев назад
Excellent review thanks Lisa
@Syres20
@Syres20 5 месяцев назад
Where's the link for the shirt though
@hongyangsu2223
@hongyangsu2223 5 месяцев назад
not good enough without a >70 wh battery
@ThePlacehole
@ThePlacehole 2 месяца назад
Now that everything is soldered on, there is apparently no need to include the flimsy plastic snaps to discourage users from opening the laptop. Yay, future is amazing!
@wouwout
@wouwout 5 месяцев назад
Can we get Lisa on 1 MILLION subs asap?? Lisa deserves it!!
@FleetStreetBarber765
@FleetStreetBarber765 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the post Lisa, Nice laptop 😊😊
@BrettRudman
@BrettRudman 26 дней назад
Great review. Need the tee-shirt.
@artraft5142
@artraft5142 2 месяца назад
From a Marketing point of View, I can just think on this Brand name as X1 (No 1, Cancel 1) and Think Father (Think Pad)
@devfric3149
@devfric3149 5 месяцев назад
Screen is interesting. I bought an expensive laptop and was really put off by it being a mirror
@lonelyphoenix7
@lonelyphoenix7 5 месяцев назад
400 nits is a deal breaker, should be higher for that price.
@skyhighsunlight
@skyhighsunlight 5 месяцев назад
Gaming ready is what is important. Work can wait.
@alejandrodelavega9857
@alejandrodelavega9857 2 месяца назад
After being a very long term X1 Carbon user, I am disappointed they no longer offer a 4K display. Time to move on to something else.
@013nil
@013nil 5 месяцев назад
i have watched every x1 carbon reviews of yours when they released.
@theprovost
@theprovost 5 месяцев назад
That zenbook 14 oled is looking interesting👀
@mobiletechreview
@mobiletechreview 5 месяцев назад
My review is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TBRoGl47x5Y.html
@jeffersonmp4
@jeffersonmp4 5 месяцев назад
Please review the Thinkpad T14 gen 5 AMD version
@sulfur32066
@sulfur32066 5 месяцев назад
the original idea of thinkpad has died, it's no longer an engineers machine it's all for "business" which makes me upset
@GioSagas
@GioSagas 5 месяцев назад
the idea of engineers has died , there are no real engineers any more just businesses entrepreneurs that think Tony Stark from the movies is cool
@sulfur32066
@sulfur32066 4 месяца назад
@@GioSagas I disagree actually I mean we are still here, even without fancy laptops))
@netmaster26
@netmaster26 4 месяца назад
what in your opinion is considered an engineer's machine?
@sulfur32066
@sulfur32066 4 месяца назад
@@netmaster26 I meant durability and pressure tests as it was with original design
@dontleaveamessage
@dontleaveamessage 4 месяца назад
@@sulfur32066the 11th gen did that
@iamdmc
@iamdmc 5 месяцев назад
Interesting still no reason to upgrade from the Gen 10
@JohnByeBye
@JohnByeBye 5 месяцев назад
I have a 10th gen, but the 120hz OLED and haptic touchpad are enticing. 👀
@dddddan
@dddddan 5 месяцев назад
I upgraded from a 10th gen mainly for these 2 features, and they deliver exactly what I was looking for.
@bccengiz
@bccengiz 5 месяцев назад
Great review. But I would like to say that the price is really too high. Lenovo is a brand I like, but there are more reasonable laptops at these prices. Unfortunately, I couldn't see any extra features that would make you want to buy this laptop for this price.
@raselhossain4k467
@raselhossain4k467 5 месяцев назад
I love your videos
@tlplayz_ytc8501
@tlplayz_ytc8501 4 месяца назад
Thinkpad is alwasy my option over other laptops.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence Месяц назад
i gotta say i remember the review of the X1 gen 1... it was wow a windows laptop nearly as thin as a macbook air? :O :O :O
@zriha
@zriha 5 месяцев назад
I don't get them, I have a X series ThinkPad, and I feel in love with that little feela, even though my main computer is already old M1 MacBook Air and it works like a charm. And now I am checking this amazing review Lisa, and thinking maybe that my main computer become a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 12, it is around €2,149.00 where I live, and then you say about 6h of battery. With new M3 MacBook 14 inch, you can get easily 10h of battery life doing video editing, and with light work amazing 16h of battery. I mean come on, what the hell Microsoft is doing with Intel and everyone. I can easily take my MacBook Air M1 for the whole day of working, and having video calls and stuff, and it will go around 8h of batter life with ease. And this one cost only around €1k . So, yeah, I will be waiting for Gen 13 ThinkPad X1 Carbon, maybe it will offer at least 8h of battery life.
@ashum8872
@ashum8872 4 месяца назад
Thank you for your review I want to buy laptop pls give me ur recommendation
@giomjava
@giomjava 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, I ised to love this channel. Not sure how this video rubs me off the wrong way? To me this seems so much a review, but an OVERVIEW of the specs. The WORST and often mlst important thing (price!!) is an afterthought.
@nitholx917
@nitholx917 5 месяцев назад
Integrated gpu on intel chip cannot even do half what amd integrated gpu can do.
@DelgenitoEsmildo
@DelgenitoEsmildo 5 месяцев назад
I love this woman. Keep up the good job.
@borrelworst
@borrelworst 5 месяцев назад
I was looking for a new high end laptop to replace my T14, but with Lenovo and also for all other brands: why do all the top models have an Intel chip? We all know they do not perform with regards to heat and therefore throttle and therefore do not have the consistent performance they promise, but all the brands keeps pushing the Intel based chips on their high end models. You would almost expect Intel pays all those brands. Because of this I will probably switch to Mac.
@user-sl8gi3vb6e
@user-sl8gi3vb6e 2 месяца назад
What about the most important of all: typing experience?
@Kumal94
@Kumal94 5 месяцев назад
That Thinkpad it's almost as cool as that Tshirt! (Where can I get one?)
@skyhighsunlight
@skyhighsunlight 5 месяцев назад
Thank You matushka Lisa!!!
@paulfunigga
@paulfunigga 2 месяца назад
Pozhaluista
@aa-xn5hc
@aa-xn5hc 5 месяцев назад
Please, 16 inches. Acer swift edge 16 2024 with usb 4
@ahmedrezk82
@ahmedrezk82 5 месяцев назад
As thermal fluid academic and researcher, I think we need to do more effort in heat transfer research to rise the bar of thermal throttling limit.😢
@JohnByeBye
@JohnByeBye 5 месяцев назад
Repaste with PTM7950 or Liquid Metal. You’ll see better temps and performance. Stock paste is garbage. These are ultra thin and light laptops, so diminishing returns is reached quite quickly with heat management. Repasting does help though.
@2011Kestrel
@2011Kestrel 5 месяцев назад
12th Gen. Suddenly I felt old.
@ulamss5
@ulamss5 3 месяца назад
Seems like about 90% identical hardware to the Asus Zenbook for almost double the price?
@Nppp_10
@Nppp_10 4 месяца назад
That amount of dust on laptop is insane, lol
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 5 месяцев назад
I remember when they were IBM Thinkpads 😃
@hvxcolors396
@hvxcolors396 5 месяцев назад
So we don't get a Nano anymore then?
@lawrencechen7521
@lawrencechen7521 5 месяцев назад
Lenovo may have one by the end of this year, but a new name, according to my source from Beijing,China. otherwise, Thinkbook 13x Gen is a successor of the X1Nano.
@Steven-e7c
@Steven-e7c 3 месяца назад
So do the touch screen models have anti-glare too?
@rizaradri316
@rizaradri316 2 месяца назад
I hope the WWAN slot supports M.2 2242 SSD
@mickeylukens622
@mickeylukens622 4 месяца назад
It looks like the SSD storage is user upgradeable. Is this true?
@kartunka
@kartunka 2 месяца назад
Could you please tell me if the 2.8K OLED display is gloss or matte because it's not very clear from the specs?
@user-eo2kc9pe8d
@user-eo2kc9pe8d 3 месяца назад
Is it better to get OLED or ips ?? Will I actually notice a difference if I am only using this for Microsoft 365 and RU-vid ?
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 5 месяцев назад
The Lenovo keyboards are getting too thin for me. HP Spectre x360 keyboard has them best this year.
@netyaroze1663
@netyaroze1663 4 месяца назад
I don't F with the Lenovo camera lips they be putting at the top for every new model 😢 However, maybe that is my OCD wanting everything symmetrical, but it kind of ruins the consistency of the thinkpad style for me. I'm not sure about anyone else either, but I barely use my webcam on my laptop (I blacklist it via modprobe) given I work from home and people don't really don't need to see me in some shitty airport when I'm not lmoa.
@tidus1ph
@tidus1ph 5 месяцев назад
Nice
@jennf2601
@jennf2601 3 месяца назад
What is similar to this in a 16" that's highly rated? I could only find ThinkPad T16 Gen 3 Intel (16″) from Lenovo's site showing as similar.
@proautoscan
@proautoscan Месяц назад
i see no antenna cables for the 4g/5G LTE module, anyone knows anything about this ?
@NatesRandomVideo
@NatesRandomVideo 5 месяцев назад
Lenovo continues the legacy of this machine quietly outdoing the competition handily for 12 generations. With trackpoint and there literally is no competition for anyone with specific hand disabilities. ZERO interest in any of the competition. None.
@peju2789
@peju2789 2 месяца назад
No SD card slot...
@goyws7488
@goyws7488 5 месяцев назад
最佳商务本,没有之一
@fUjiMaNia
@fUjiMaNia 4 месяца назад
Lisa is super cool
@DigitalSamTV
@DigitalSamTV 5 месяцев назад
I'd still just don't get why anyone would ever logically buy this over the X1 yoga (which offers exactly the same quality, but you get the touch screen and you get to flip the whole screen... There is literally no place in the market for the X1 carbon, when the yoga version exists... Even if you never hardly use the yoga as the yoga flip, it still makes no sense not to get it because you still have to touch screen and also that capability whenever you want it once a month or whatever)
@cabot100
@cabot100 5 месяцев назад
You are wrong. Your commeny is appreciated,
@DigitalSamTV
@DigitalSamTV 5 месяцев назад
@@cabot100 no I'm not wrong, if you have any basic logic in your brain, u can see the picture properly
@cabot100
@cabot100 5 месяцев назад
@@DigitalSamTV You have some sort of brain disorder?
@mikew34567
@mikew34567 5 месяцев назад
The new Yoga doesn't have the option for the high end Intel CPUs. Lenovo only gave those to the Carbon
@DigitalSamTV
@DigitalSamTV 5 месяцев назад
@@mikew34567 that is not a differentiating factor at all . No difference in performance
@marvinzhang3734
@marvinzhang3734 4 месяца назад
why aren't they sell the 155H version right now?
@DEMinSoCAL
@DEMinSoCAL 3 месяца назад
I noticed also that at some point Lenovo has switched from the H-series to the U-series. I am guessing it might be due to the fact the H-series would throttle (according to other reviews) and also contributes to less battery life. The U-series is lower performance but more battery efficient and cooler running. I wish Lenovo would state why they changed.
@leuphoniemusic
@leuphoniemusic 5 месяцев назад
Oh God, that reverse camera notch is awful..
@TheDataArchitect
@TheDataArchitect 5 месяцев назад
I prefer Macbook Air over it.
@hyvong01
@hyvong01 5 месяцев назад
I have a question, can i push the ssd 2230 in to the space of the 5G Card🤔 Because the option 5G is not necessary for me
@DavidJao
@DavidJao 5 месяцев назад
No, it's BIOS locked to Lenovo-approved cards only.
@gutwallst6645
@gutwallst6645 5 месяцев назад
I like the haircut
@yellowjoe.2000
@yellowjoe.2000 3 месяца назад
6 hour battery life in year 2024 is embarrassing. seriously
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 5 месяцев назад
anti-glare coating suck...
@OnlyMadnessPain
@OnlyMadnessPain 5 месяцев назад
Ive heard "mama tech review"
@yotubekauders
@yotubekauders 2 месяца назад
The review is a sham. I spent $3000 on the X1 g12 just to realise that the fan noise is HUGE NOISY and AWFUL! How come not mentioned in the review??
@XZ_Xia_Bibi
@XZ_Xia_Bibi 5 месяцев назад
我不喜欢ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 12 凸出的“脑袋”。我认为凸出的摄像头严重影响了外观美感,我宁愿摄像头装在窄边框上。😂
@user4gent416
@user4gent416 3 месяца назад
Welcome to ThinkPad cult, grandma
@monicahavechristjesus5455
@monicahavechristjesus5455 5 месяцев назад
@WaffleusRex
@WaffleusRex 5 месяцев назад
Not a fan of them swapping the Fn and Ctrl keys to be like on other laptops. I prefer it the old way.
@SteveMellen
@SteveMellen 5 месяцев назад
There's an option in the BIOS to change it back
@WaffleusRex
@WaffleusRex 5 месяцев назад
@@SteveMellen Okay, that's good to hear, at least.
@tdebug1
@tdebug1 5 месяцев назад
After changing a motherboard 4 (four) times in my 2018 year model, I think I would pass on lenovo for life. They have no QC whatsoever and seemingly swapping your MB with another faulty one they got from another customer, I have no other reasonable explanation.
@Kiev-in-3-days
@Kiev-in-3-days 4 месяца назад
Battery life is so bad tho.
@noreply-mp
@noreply-mp 4 месяца назад
thinkpadmasterrace
@fasolatedoe
@fasolatedoe 5 месяцев назад
Not acceptable. Too expensive for a "Kinda Good" laptop...
@solidunit
@solidunit 5 месяцев назад
Intel chip on a laptop = hard pass
@akin242002
@akin242002 5 месяцев назад
I see nothing wrong with Intel CPUs for office work or gaming after teaming with a Nvidia GPU. Especially 12th gen and 13th gen. However, Ryzen 7000s was a huge hit! The 5000s and 6000s series had meh single core performance. 7000s fixed that and the 780M iGPU is the GOAT 🐐. Currently offered on the Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 4 for work laptops 💻.
@timothyandrewnielsen
@timothyandrewnielsen 5 месяцев назад
@@akin242002 The problem with the CPU is it's absolute trash. That's the technical way to put it.
@akin242002
@akin242002 5 месяцев назад
@@timothyandrewnielsen Nope. Just need to know where to get the most out of it. Desktops or business laptops (finance, accounting, or data analysis) that will be plugged in most of the time are where Intel CPUs shine. Traveling laptops ✈️, stick to Macbooks or AMD Ryzen CPUs.
@AKK5I
@AKK5I 5 месяцев назад
I'm no fan boy, but I just want the system that's the best, and that's that AMD Ryzen
@ogikay7056
@ogikay7056 5 месяцев назад
Exactly. Intel in my mind is hot and battery inefficient.
@wlcrutch
@wlcrutch 5 месяцев назад
That nub or whatever you want to call it on the lid is hideous
@tonyblack3401
@tonyblack3401 3 месяца назад
6 hours battery life. 🤮 I’ll stick with my MacBook.
@fernandoavila8615
@fernandoavila8615 5 месяцев назад
Hi, I'm no expert in the laptop department, but does anyone have in mind a great light laptop for work/business with a graphics card that can handle light gaming well (Like fornite/LoL). I have the X1 carbon 6th gen and I love how light it is. Also has great performance still, but when it comes to opening a game, it stats stuttering like crazy if I have anything other than the game opened. Thanks for any suggestions you have!
@lawrencechen7521
@lawrencechen7521 5 месяцев назад
X1C6 is irrelevant now. Intel made a massive progress since TGL(2021), you can safely play most online games (Dota, CS-Go, call of duty low reso and genshin 60FPS). Buy Ultra7-155H for the best possible performance (128EU, as fast as GTX1650Ti)
@pigeondriver8992
@pigeondriver8992 Месяц назад
What's happening with people wanting huge trackpads? It's ugly and not practical...
@dota2mas7er84
@dota2mas7er84 5 месяцев назад
I kind of wish they'd stop doing the mid keyboard red nipple thing
@moviestar5883
@moviestar5883 5 месяцев назад
That is Thinkpad exclusive and very useful. IDK why would they remove it
@intellectbuilder
@intellectbuilder 5 месяцев назад
I only use Thinkpad laptops because of this red thing. If it hadn’t been there, I would have switched to Asus, because there you can install two 8TB ssd drives.
@WaffleusRex
@WaffleusRex 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely not.
@wololo10
@wololo10 5 месяцев назад
fuck off, I only buy thinkpads because of that. Don't mess with us we don't mess with you, that's a threat
@wololo10
@wololo10 5 месяцев назад
You don't wanna mess with us buddy, it's not your funcking business
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