Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
@@eddieneyman4035 Hi! Thank you for this information! This is very sad about the people who lost their jobs in the past couple of years. I also read about new big factories are being launched and will be launched in China in the planned future. So, I hope that good professionals will find new jobs with good conditions and salaries.
Disappointing to see 12th gen intel here. Latest CPUs from Intel come with Arc graphics, which is a significant improvement in performance. The Asus Zenbook Duo released this month isn't a foldable, but it is dual screen, and has Arc graphics, so it isn't a thermal issue. Probably just Lenovo using old Intel chips to save on costs.
For me the biggest issue is that is still a kind of this mix transformer with only upside is a bit bigger screen in “big screen” mode. With so many clunky downsides
This sentiment is the same I have on folding phones. Yes I can get a bigger screen on demand but I don't want it to come at the cost of literally everything else I actually need.
Wow! I did not know these things existed. I'm not a road warrior and use a Chromebook for travel, but folding screen laptop is amazing. A taller screen would make it more useable in laptop mode.
I think the original design is better, they could have improve it with thinner bezel so that increase size size to 14-15 with out making whole tablet/PC bigger... also keyboard stores inside is better idea... just in my opinion...
At least Lenovo is trying, but I don't think this form factor has a strong use case. I got a P1 gen 5 with a i7-12800H and Nvidia A1000 (hey, nice to have) for $1100 in Dec. 2023.
Who are the target user base for this? 4 hour battery life? A ton of parts to set up would make using it while traveling difficult. Oh! Did I mention, 4 hour battery life? Again, making travel usage difficult.
These are super cool.. just can’t think of a use for it where I could justify. I really like my boring old m1 MacBook airs look.. it’s simple and intuitive. Not very delicate. This seems like when it breaks I’m SOL
I use an ROG X13, 80% of the time folded up (screen facing me, the keyboard behind) and put on a tray. I would be in the market for such a laptop if they could back up the gorgeous display with a higher refresh rate and a dGPU. Both ASUS and Lenovo missed the mark for this generation unfortunately.
The problem is, Lenovo doesn't stick with their ideas. They come up with so many unique products, but where are they now... The ultra thin yoga book is one of many with the touch keys, that was way before the foldable phones. They dished that. Incidentally, I have one, the android version.
Showed you puttong the keyboard on and swinging the screen to my blss and she went "that makes my head hurt" lol. She also guessed it started $500 less
I generally like the idea of it. I just know I'd break it. The sand/dust rating is a promising step forward though. Definitely one of those devices to have a premium warranty for. In the meantime, I'd probably opt for the XPS 2-in-1 for similar portability and versatility. With more than enough money remaining to buy that even better something that is always coming up in the near future.
Not the update I was hoping for to be honest. I was a huge fan of the 1 gen, but the keyboard has no place to chagre anymore? Cmon Lenovo, that was a huge selling point. The design of the original was better. Next: No fan, risky decition but alright lets see if it can do at least light gaming. No headphone Jack, as a artist: Now I can never buy it. Lenovo really made all the wrong decitions :(
This is a big improvement compared to the first version. At the current prices I would not buy one. If the next iteration improves battery life, includes some more onboard ports and has a lower price then I would probably buy one.
The only thing that prevents me from considering foldables is the crease. Not matter how minimal it is, it’s still a giant parted pump that interrupts the flow of a pen stroke, and as a designer and an artist I really can’t deal with that. I’m waiting on someone to solve the crease issue. If someone solves it, I’d want a 20" foldable with Core Ultra 9 and Intel Arc graphics.
It looks very good for people who are mobile and need a good sized screen. I just cant be productive on 14 inch screens. I am not bothered by the thickness or weigth since it will be in my backpack.
Yeah I can see the appeal of unifying the screens, but it's not worth another thousand dollars for half the capability. Also software pretty much knows how to handle a multi-monitor setup by now, but a single screen that changes size and shape seems to just confuse windows too much for the experience to be anything resembling seamless.
Oh snap!! Haha Thanks for showing this!❤ The original was supercool but felt to me like a prototype, this looks like a huge improvement! So glad to hear it's got pen support! And LTE SIM OMG! Not sure where they would go, but I always find 'MS Surface/Asus Z13 Kickstands' the best, maybe they'll fit them in Gen 3🤞 I thought the keyboard charging was really cool on the first model, but you're right, the keyboard barely sips any battery. I think closing flat is better, and helps it feel more solid too, and in your shots of the hardware and build overall, the new model looks super! I've discovered so many unique devices that can wear many different hats through your channel! You show the coolest devices and show them the best!! Thanks again Lisa & Co!
Someday, they may be able to be just as good as other Chromebooks or better in terms of performance. For someone who always uses a bluetooth keyboard anyway, for example, it might look appealing. I think that the market for these will develop over time, but we first need to go through a bunch of ugly, clunky, and buggy preliminary iterations before we can get there. The same goes for software. They also need to adapt Windows to work seamlessly with this new form over time just like tech companies like Xiaomi and Samsung did with Android for folding phones. They have to make money in the meantime as well as make mistakes (and a lot of them at that) before they can get to the point at which buying these (for those whose needs align) is a no-brainer because they might as well get the most versatile of two or more equal products.
Are you seriously THAT SLOW??? 🤣🤣🤣 It's a bigger screen when you need it and a smaller screen laptop when you don't which also gives you even better multitasking by running 2 or more apps side by side, etc. Don't like the price?? Buy a cheaper dual-screen laptop like the 2024 Asus Zenbook Duo.
Interesting, however I think the "folding fad" will come and go without much fanfare. After all, we've been already folding laptops and flip phones for years. Thanks for the review Lisa, always appreciate your excellent content. Always well presented.
That's not what a foldable is. Those old devices don't have foldable displays. A dual-screen laptop is NOT a foldable. A 2003 Motorola Razr is a FLIP phone. NOT a foldable phone. Learn the difference. 🤣🤣🤣 Foldables aren't a fad at all. You're just ignorant. Even Apple might be releasing a foldable phone in around 2026 or 2027.
I feel like they'll remain a relatively small part of the market, but become more popular as the tech improves. For the moment foldable computers are very low powered and fragile for ridiculous amounts of money, so I doubt anybody will use one as a primary machine and only the richest will get it as a novelty. But now that the concept has been proven, if they work out the issues with creasing and refine the software behind it and bring the internals up to par with other lightweight laptops, a few years down the line it would become just another option for form factor, like the laptops with 360 degree hinges to use them like tablets.
7:03 and ... the USB-C charging connector supports up to 73-75 plug in-out cycles, that is enough to keep you going for almost 2 months before throwing it away.
With the extra folded height, plus the extra keyboard, it's funky folding stand and the weight (3lbs+ with keyboard), I'm not sure I'd opt for it over a thin and light 14" or even a 15.6" conventional laptop. For compact on the road work my old high-spec old i7 Macbook 12" is lighter, more compact, sounds great and runs MacOs, Windows and Linux very well. Using an iPad like an M1 Air for a second display when needed for productivity is handy, and you have two separate devices one a tablet if needed. all for the same weight and and same or smaller form factor. With a USB power brick (1lb) I can run both all day and then some. That package to me seems a more practical and functional option for a lot less cash outlay. I wish PC manufacturers Like Apple and Lenovo would focus more on the super light and thin 12 to 12.5" form factor and offer an external monitor.
Folding screens are the dumbest tech ever. The screen is made of soft plastic, you can scratch and dent it with your fingernails (which is great for a touchscreen) Before junping on board the stupid train, spend 10 minutes reading the samsung galaxy fold customer support forums, and you'll see the nightmare garbage that these screens and especially their hinges are. And of course, warranty doesn't cover s reen damage. There is a reason companies are happy to sell flawed tech with easily breakable screens: if your screen is damaged, and you want warranty service (lets say the battery is a dud, and you want a replacement battery) : if your screen has dents or scratches or your hinge is damaged, Samsung \ Lenovo (whoever) can refuse to fix the issue because the screen is damaged, and they don't fix screens. Because, you see, in order to replace that battery, the screen must be removed. Samsung (unlike apple) does NOT OFFER warranty device replacement. They offer warranty device REPAIR, which they can choose to do or not to do, and if they decide your screen has too many scratches, they won't replace the battery or do anything else. Read the forums, I've done the warranty dance with samsung. Foldable tech is an excuse to sell brokeb tech to hipsters who: 1) can afford to buy a new device any time ANYTHING goes wrong OR 2) can't afford a new device whenever it breaks, but DON'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK regarding how fragile and prone to failure these devices are. I repeat: the screen on foldable tech WILL break down at the hinge, during normal use. It WILL fail, just with daily use, and screen repair is not warranty covered. I find this channel is part of the problem, not discussing the hard questions regarding this flawed, anti-consumer SCAM technology properly. Now i click "don't recommend this channel" Bye forever, lazy tech "journalist"
Samsung folding phones are actually a pretty great example of how the tech's been advancing. The first two generations were complete garbage. The third didn't scratch up, but the screen started cracking after 6-8 months of daily use. The fourth has gone strong for the year since it was released, but I doubt it will be much longer. The fifth and sixth haven't existed long enough for real world data, but they've got higher *rated* durability at least. I remember when the first 2-in-1 convertibles with their 360 degree hinges came out, and fell apart if you looked at them wrong. I remember when they started putting touchscreens on laptops, with disastrous results. I'm not quite old enough to have been buying computers when trackpads were first introduced, but there's a reason almost everybody used a little nubbin in the middle of their keyboard to control the cursor instead. Every advancement has been overpriced, unreliable crap when first sold, and then if it survives a few years it suddenly becomes just another decent option, or even on rare occasions the industry standard. Of course, that isn't always a good thing (I despise companies treating Bluetooth as the default and using that as an excuse for taking away audio connectors).
It means you can have a truly massive tablet without dealing with the inherent portability issues such a thing would have, or effectively a 17-inch laptop but with the portability of a 12-inch. I don't think the tradeoffs are worth it in the current generation. You could buy a 17" *and* a 12" laptop for less money than this one, and they would both be more powerful and more durable. But five years from now? The successors to this could be pretty cool.
