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Let’s Learn from Lucifer (Wait, what?) 

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@emh7956
@emh7956 7 месяцев назад
The John Birch Society , the Book of Mormon, teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, H. Verlan Anderson have all been good sources to help our family recognize secret combinations. Thank you, Connor, for your book, "Latter-day Liberty" also.
@bustindustin959
@bustindustin959 4 месяца назад
J.rueben Clark as well. Though today he might be called an antisemite.
@personalitymanager1580
@personalitymanager1580 Месяц назад
i an happy Hi. I was at Ezra Taft Benson's talk at the Assembly Hall on Temple Square in 1966. I am 83 and was a chapter leader several times. I am still trying to do what I can to expose them. I am glad to see you give them credit for helping people to learn about them.
@Avenger24601
@Avenger24601 7 месяцев назад
I loved the video and message. I’m struggling to see how the Church today (including leaders) aren’t fitting into the Book of Mormon’s warnings. We have secret combinations among us. We have mechanisms in place to get gain. We “grind the faces of the poor” in numerous ways. We see instances of “lying for the Lord” either tacitly approved or touted as a virtue. How can I see it a different way? I don’t want to be a Korihor. But I can’t ignore the state of the Church today. I can’t say all is well in Zion, or all is well in Zarahemla (SLC). I’m stuck in limbo.
@psmith535
@psmith535 5 месяцев назад
Moroni is talking to us today in his writings, he wasn’t talking to people in his day, he specifically asks “why have ye polluted the holy Church of God“? He’s literally talking to the leadership of the church today. Combine that with Nephi’s warnings about “false, vain and foolish doctrines“. He is certainly speaking about many things, including the church today insisting that Joseph translated with a rock in a hat, that he carried on with other women, as well as many other foolish beliefs, and doctrines today. We are specifically advised to “awaken to our awful situation“…
@ExtraMedium-
@ExtraMedium- 7 месяцев назад
I just gave a talk on this a few weeks ago. I quoted Sun Tzu (“Know your enemy”) and C.S. Lewis’s Screwtape (“Keep you patient in ignorance of your own existence.”)
@TayLybb
@TayLybb 7 месяцев назад
Interested if you want to share more.
@ExtraMedium-
@ExtraMedium- 7 месяцев назад
@@TayLybb Oh, yeah…it was a talk on parenting. I mentioned how our job as parents is to both teach and protect. So I mentioned that we shouldn’t ignore Satan and suggested that we teach our children, not about Satan himself, but about his tactics. E.g., how to recognize the difference between God’s methods (persuasion and liberty) vs. Satan’s (coercion and force). I so badly wanted to gently call out our bishop for forcing masks on kids during Covid (he asked my son not to pass the sacrament because we didn’t wear masks), but I was tactful and didn’t mention that.
@bernadettedee2773
@bernadettedee2773 5 месяцев назад
It helps me to see from the Snoozers perception..that they think they are protecting others and themsekves with these flimsy pieces of gauze against the "deadliest virus on earth". They are scared. We arent. Yes its discrimination but its good for your son to practise hardening himself against the pricks of being in the right, for being diffrrent misinformation.
@payaj2815
@payaj2815 7 месяцев назад
This was an excellent video. What I have gathered from this is to “ know thy enemy “ and that we MUST stop living under condemnation. And that we must exhaust ourselves with bringing to the light the awful situation we’re in. The only thing that I think of as far as the first steps to take as we must start with ourselves. What are we personally doing that is leading to the distraction of our society. What can we personally work on to fix that. That we ourselves are not contributing to our own downfall and distraction. And once we have put on our own oxygen masks, we help everyone else to put on theirs
@osml2499
@osml2499 7 месяцев назад
I could say stop funding Hollywood by going to the movies and stop funding entertainment giants like Disney, but I think I would have a mob at my door within minutes.
@extropistamy
@extropistamy 7 месяцев назад
100% !
@freethinker1056
@freethinker1056 7 месяцев назад
Thank you. I learn and get confirmed by you. It’s getting confusing out there especially dealing with family who are being affected by the lies.
@jandjhirst
@jandjhirst 7 месяцев назад
It's amazing to me how every prophet, beginning with Joseph Smith, has talked about how evil and corrupt the world is, like unto the days of Noah. We all know the world keeps getting darker and more full of sin. And yet, the saints are still so trusting of worldly institutions and the solutions that they offer.
@beoneB1
@beoneB1 7 месяцев назад
And the Church gives many million$ to worldly and evil institutions. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 7 месяцев назад
Trust in the science and trustes medical profession. Sad
@amandadangerfieldpiano
@amandadangerfieldpiano 7 месяцев назад
Yes, thanks for saying it.
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 7 месяцев назад
When was the last time the brethern have spoken about secret combinations and referenced these scriptures from the pulpit at GC?
@jasonsmith2533
@jasonsmith2533 7 месяцев назад
30 + years ago?
@caleetholen895
@caleetholen895 7 месяцев назад
This was an excellent musing! Thank you so much ❤️
@psmith535
@psmith535 7 месяцев назад
The closer we get to the second coming of our Savior the stronger the deception will become. It’s interesting that two of the biggest lies Satan promotes is that there is no God, and that he, himself does not exist either. He’s a very crafty one. It’s also interesting that Matthew chapter 24 specifically states that in the last days the deception will become so great that even the elect, the strongest believers, “could“ be deceived. Even those who claim to be close to God, and even those who claim to be a member of the one true church, who claim to be led by living prophets, seers and revelators, they can easily be deceived, simply because Satan is the Master Deceiver, and he is so good at what he does.
@prestonanderson9437
@prestonanderson9437 7 месяцев назад
One true gospel...
@Greg-McIver
@Greg-McIver 7 месяцев назад
We are ignoring learning about casting out evil and unclean spirits. There is a dearth of instruction. No anger is ever to be used.
@osml2499
@osml2499 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Connor! This is bold and VERY necessary for this very hour.
@sdb816
@sdb816 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for this. 🙏🏼
@ChadSolberg
@ChadSolberg 7 месяцев назад
Holy crap… this video is on point.
@StandBlameless
@StandBlameless 2 дня назад
Thank you Connor, I’ve been wanting to do a video on ‘the art of war’ against Satan; this video is a perfect supplement to many points I was hoping to make. THANK YOU. Keep up the great work.
@originalintent6916
@originalintent6916 7 месяцев назад
"I am no devil, for there is none..."
@michaeljeffords4010
@michaeljeffords4010 7 месяцев назад
Modern day Nehor's and the doctrine of unconditional love (aka love is love is a doctrine of man). God has unfailing, steadfast love for us but in no case does he want to leave us in our sin. He wants to grant us mercy but we must do our part and go and sin no more.
@jennedge123
@jennedge123 7 месяцев назад
These secret combinations have been inside the church since Brigham Young, and now we see that priestcraft is rampant. The LDS are the people of Nehor, with their ramiumptons and their prideful boasting of “we thank thee that we are chosen above all the peoples of the earth”. Pay us money and you can be saved (in the temple only, and only for your money). Good podcast, if only the last connection could have been drawn. The Book of Mormon is for our day and for the LDS gentile people, the people who actually read it. Mormon 8 seems to tie it all together the best.
@germanslice
@germanslice 7 месяцев назад
The faithful among the saints are not in this kind of trouble who obey their leaders and follow the prophet on the covenant pathway but the foolish virgins in the Church who argue against their leaders and won't stay on the covenant path and spend their time murmuring and arguing against the living Oracles of God saying they have all gone out of the way and esteem their counsel lightly and set it aside thinking they know for themselves who rise up like Babbit claiming revelations from God for the Church to try to counsel the prophet or their bishop or stake president who don't keep themselves in their own personal runways are the ones who need to stop running their mouths all down about the Church and its leaders and get themselves back again on the covenant path and stop being lazy learners and do the spiritual work the prophet asks so they can get through the door on time with the rest of the wise virgins. For the door won't stay open forever. The Lord is going to shut the door after all the wise have entered in.
@phariseeinrecovery7181
@phariseeinrecovery7181 7 месяцев назад
@germanslice ​Throughout the OT, NT and BOM are examples of men who sat in "Moses' Seat" as the "living Oracles of God", but they were not actually called of God. What makes us better than God's covenant people throughout history?
@brucehubbard159
@brucehubbard159 7 месяцев назад
​@germanslice tell that to the faithful families whose loved ones followed the council that certain medical procedures were safe and effective. They were obedient and many are now dead or physically damaged because of it. Someone within the church needs to answer for this.
@germanslice
@germanslice 7 месяцев назад
@@brucehubbard159Not sure what that's about,
@brucehubbard159
@brucehubbard159 7 месяцев назад
​@@germansliceit's about church leaders who were deceived during the pandemic and gave bad advice. We are taught that the Prophet cannot lead us astray. That is false doctrine. If we follow the leaders explicitly and don't think or question we may become as the people Lehi left behind in Jerusalem. We don't believe the Church can go into apostasy. We need to pay attention to what the Book of Mormom warns us about.
@TayLybb
@TayLybb 7 месяцев назад
I recommend 'The tree of liberty society' and the two books Ben has written. They complement Connor's thoughts found here and in Christ v Ceaser.
@truthbetold23762
@truthbetold23762 7 месяцев назад
Is this what is going on with the church leaders direction right now? Love, LOVE, embracing the world l! Skipping the repentance!
@becourteous6414
@becourteous6414 7 месяцев назад
I just did a search for REPENTANCE in general conference talks in the last six months and several talks came up. The brethren are talking about it even if the wards aren’t.
@truthbetold23762
@truthbetold23762 7 месяцев назад
@becourteous6414 yes, they talked about it, then, they pushed more about embracing the world and its ideologies. They can give beautiful talks, but it seems like the repentance doesn't apply to them. Elder Oaks said, the church will never apologize for any mistep that the church (aka leaders) made!
@becourteous6414
@becourteous6414 7 месяцев назад
@@truthbetold23762 this life is not about an organization’s repentance but our own personal repentance and improvement.
@beckywright7906
@beckywright7906 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, this was enlightening!
@bskoger2216
@bskoger2216 7 месяцев назад
I think the awful situation talked about in B of B is that we have a prophet that admits to being a member of skull and bones in his autobiography “heart to heart”
@kattod11
@kattod11 7 месяцев назад
What is B of B? Who are you talking about?
@kristinrichmond8185
@kristinrichmond8185 7 месяцев назад
And?
@bskoger2216
@bskoger2216 7 месяцев назад
@@kattod11 I meant Book of Mormon
@bskoger2216
@bskoger2216 7 месяцев назад
@@kattod11 President Nelson is a member of scull and bones he admits joining the secret society in his book “heart to heart”
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 7 месяцев назад
I definitely think that is part of it. I wish more people in general knew about this and what it means.
@MegaJohn144
@MegaJohn144 7 месяцев назад
We are all here so we can learn from one another. Ignore the lessons from Lucifer at you eternal peril.
@allthingsarepossiblethruchrist
@allthingsarepossiblethruchrist 5 месяцев назад
Yet we listen to Lucifer and obey him in our own temples...
@jaredeastley9640
@jaredeastley9640 6 месяцев назад
Finally, someone who gets it. Satan’s plan was never to force everyone to be righteous.
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 7 месяцев назад
Interesting...
@extropistamy
@extropistamy 7 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@KimballCody
@KimballCody 5 месяцев назад
Would the Skull and Bones and Owl Key club be a secret combination?
@bemorebetter5343
@bemorebetter5343 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for calling me…us…to repentance in the totally nicest way possible.
@3848sdgriwb
@3848sdgriwb 7 месяцев назад
Nice lighting
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 7 месяцев назад
Are those cassette tapes on your hoodie?
@psmith535
@psmith535 7 месяцев назад
I’m wondering the same thing
@cboyack
@cboyack 7 месяцев назад
Yessir!
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 7 месяцев назад
@@cboyack Thanks for the reply Connor. I've watched every one of your musings.
@story_monster
@story_monster 7 месяцев назад
I think Korihor totally made up the angel story. He thought Alma was a religious sucker who'd fall for it.
@allisonhansen364
@allisonhansen364 7 месяцев назад
If you read Butler’s book “Plain and Precious Things” (awesome book) about the visionary men of the Book of Mormon, he discusses how anciently sometimes the priestly men were referred to as “angels”. (I don’t have the book with me, so I may get things slightly off from what he said.) So the thought is that it was potentially a priestly leader/“angel” that taught these things to Korihor. That would make more sense as to being convinced there was no God. Interesting to think about.
@sarahhooke9913
@sarahhooke9913 7 месяцев назад
Nice lights.
@thuggie1
@thuggie1 4 месяца назад
i always found it interesting in the Peral of great price you see the word Mahan which is a farsi word literally meaning moon like or like the moon depending on how its used so in the context of that passage 'And Cain said: Truly i am Mahan [ like the moon], the master of this great secret, that i may murder and get gain. Wherefor Cain was called master Mahan [like the moon], and glorified in his wickedness.' it is interesting for a reason the crescent Moon is directly related to Hu-Bal or Baal also refereed to as the farther of all lies and Satan it like at that point Cain with taking on that name he allows Satan to work directly through him in a way been possessed of his will. just an interesting thing that just came to mind
@MegaJohn144
@MegaJohn144 7 месяцев назад
A trap that the church is dealing with today is the mistaken idea that all we need to be saved is to go to the temple regularly, take out covenants, and get married for time and eternity. They are leaving out the teachings, which are taught in the Book of Mormon, that we must be born again and changed from our carnal nature and become saints, or we cannot even see the Kingdom of God, let alone enter into it.
@sarahirvin5406
@sarahirvin5406 6 месяцев назад
Yes, I just made a Facebook post about this and my family was all concerned for my salvation, but I won’t take it back. It’s incredibly important to take the book of Mormon at its word and Christ as our saving ordinance not the temple!!!
@freesaints
@freesaints 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, the covenant path has become a distraction. There's too much focus on covenants and not enough focus on Christ. It's through his grace that we are saved. It's by being born again and becoming new creatures in Christ that we are saved. There's too much focus on covenants, as if the covenants themselves save us from our sins. Making covenants with God should be a byproduct of following Him, not the focus.
@bernadettedee2773
@bernadettedee2773 5 месяцев назад
I feel that they go hand in hand. Covenants and Christ
@marc4712
@marc4712 7 месяцев назад
Very good
@erikpeoples8041
@erikpeoples8041 7 месяцев назад
Why was my comment removed? All I said basically is if that people agreed with this video they should check out "Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill.
@kristinrichmond8185
@kristinrichmond8185 7 месяцев назад
Unfortunately sometimes utube deletes comments. Not necessarily the creator of the channel.
@erikpeoples8041
@erikpeoples8041 7 месяцев назад
@@kristinrichmond8185 Thank you
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 7 месяцев назад
Outwitting the Devil is a great book. Read it many times over the years. It is prophetic
@davidterrell80
@davidterrell80 7 месяцев назад
I'm a first-time listener and I appreciate your thoughts and insights--but being a retired Sailor, you had me at "piss poor". I've talked often to those asking, "What do we do (in the face of evil)?" about tending your local part of the Vinyard. Sometimes, I tell LOTR-literate people to "Be the Halfling" and refer them to this (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6VAF1YThcbc.html). And I see that set of Hugh Nibley's works up on that high shelf.
@gladbod300
@gladbod300 7 месяцев назад
Great video! A thought: The secret combinations can get above us in two ways, the first is spiritual. By my estimation, this is what Moroni is primarily concerned with... naturally, including the false ideologies and teachings, and seducing doctrines that this entity will use to draw people away from God. The second is physical, and from what I can tell, the coming forth of this entity is clearly prophesied. We can resist the physical manifestation all day, which is a worthy cause, but unless this nation repents and comes unto God, after having rejected the fullness of his Gospel, the prophecies and judgments of God are bound to fall upon this nation. Not to mention, the abortion 'groves,' and other abominations that are permeating this land.
@WalterReade
@WalterReade 7 месяцев назад
Nibley (if I remember correctly) said the "and also some men" was a suggestion of homosexuality.
@jum5238
@jum5238 7 месяцев назад
One of the greatest weapons of satan is to use Christian terms to destroy Christian faith.
@MegaJohn144
@MegaJohn144 7 месяцев назад
You left out the many ways in which Satan works on us individually. In Revelations, he is called "the accuser of the brethren". He stands before the throne of God and accused people, day and night. He will also accuse you and me. When you do something wrong, he tells you to hide from God instead of running to God and confessing and repenting. He also seeks to confuse us about himself. "There is no devil." He will lie about his power and his identity. We are enticed by both God and Satan. We need to learn the difference between the revelation of God, men, and the devil. Satan wants to blur the lines. Satan wants you to think that the Holy Ghose is just some warm, fuzzy feeling. Church leaders and complicit in furthering this false notion. Church leaders also want you to believe that the only revelation you are entitled is the revelation that they are not "leading you astray". Mos 4:3 Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down; This is the scripture that is used to say that Satan wants to take away our free agency. In how many ways does the church subtly communicate to people that you have to obey the leaders, or else? How about when a self-styled apostle stands up and says that after you were baptized as an 8-year old, you have no free agency? Mos 4:1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying--Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor. Think about this scripture. "One soul shall not be lost". LOST is PERDITION. He never promised that every soul shall be saved, only that nobody would be sent to outer darkness. Then, think about what the Book of Mormon teaches about all the ways Satan seeks to influence us as individuals and through corrupt churches. 2 Nephi 28. Mormon 8.
@MegaJohn144
@MegaJohn144 7 месяцев назад
Mos 5:51 For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother. I don't agree that the work "knew" was necessarily used in a sexual sense, when the context suggests more a likely meaning. These men were in a secret covenant together, and they knew who was in or the secret and who wasn't. They had signs and tokens by which they were able to recognize each other. Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they KNEW [yada: H3045] that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. Gen 4:1 And Adam KNEW [yada: H3045] Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. In each case the word is the same Hebrew word, but in the above verses from Genesis, it is obvious from the context. You can go look up the various meanings of "yada" for yourself, but it is an unnecessary leap to presume that Mos 5:15 was talking about sex. I added this from Strong's to know (Qal) to know to know, learn to know to perceive to perceive and see, find out and discern to discriminate, distinguish to know by experience to recognise, admit, acknowledge, confess to consider to know, be acquainted with to know (a person carnally) to know how, be skilful in to have knowledge, be wise (Niphal) to be made known, be or become known, be revealed to make oneself known to be perceived to be instructed (Piel) to cause to know (Poal) to cause to know (Pual) to be known known, one known, acquaintance (participle) (Hiphil) to make known, declare (Hophal) to be made known (Hithpael) to make oneself known, reveal oneself
@erikpeoples8041
@erikpeoples8041 7 месяцев назад
You should review in an upcoming Musing, the Movie "Who Killed Joseph Smith" by Justin Griffin
@wolfseeker2023
@wolfseeker2023 7 месяцев назад
Apostate. Pure and simple
@erikpeoples8041
@erikpeoples8041 7 месяцев назад
Can you argue with what it shows, or you just don't like what it implies? What the church says happened is impossible; now, even the church is admitting their long-held version is not true.@@wolfseeker2023
@erikpeoples8041
@erikpeoples8041 7 месяцев назад
@@wolfseeker2023 so do you think Connor is also an apostate for presenting ideas that do not fit the church’s false narratives?
@wolfseeker2023
@wolfseeker2023 7 месяцев назад
@@erikpeoples8041 I do not.....but I KNOW Justin is.
@ruckin3
@ruckin3 7 месяцев назад
what are the secret combinations then?
@beoneB1
@beoneB1 7 месяцев назад
United Nations and its other such organizations, GAVI, Skulls and Bones, anything that teaches contradicts God’s gospel.
@josephaney
@josephaney 7 месяцев назад
Secret combinations go by many names today like the Mafia, organized crime, the Syndicate, but the most insidious is the Jesuit-Illuminati conspiracy also called the deep state. then there are the globalists, the ruling elite, Nazis, neo Nazis, the Biden crime family, the Clinton crime family, Skull and Bones, Communism, and the 33 degree Masons to name the most notorious .
@ruckin3
@ruckin3 7 месяцев назад
@@beoneB1 Thank you. Sounds like it could be a very long list added to those. Corruption and inefficiencies (but benefit the elites) aboundeth
@beoneB1
@beoneB1 7 месяцев назад
@@ruckin3yea verily! The list is very long. Add CFR, WHO, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, most governments, etc.
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 7 месяцев назад
Pharmaceutical corporations and those that do their bidding
@fightingfortruth9806
@fightingfortruth9806 7 месяцев назад
The only way we truly learn anything good is by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost cannot teach us if we are thinking about Satan. Not possible.
@TayLybb
@TayLybb 7 месяцев назад
We have to learn discernment via the Holy Ghost. We cannot be ignorant of the enemy.
@allisonhansen364
@allisonhansen364 7 месяцев назад
I disagree. The Holy Ghost testifies of truth, including the truth about the evil we face. If we are fantasizing about the evil we can do, no, we won’t hear the Holy Ghost. But if we genuinely want to learn truth and be given the gift of discernment so we can walk more fully in Christ’s light, we will most definitely be taught!
@osml2499
@osml2499 7 месяцев назад
"You mean it controls your actions?" "Partially, but it also obeys your commands." Hmmm. Where is this quote from?
@EphraimFootball
@EphraimFootball 7 месяцев назад
What do you all think Nikki Haley as a candidate?
@ParkerRoams
@ParkerRoams 7 месяцев назад
1st
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 7 месяцев назад
whatever...
@althe111
@althe111 7 месяцев назад
You are assuming that you yourself have not been deceived.
@ruckin3
@ruckin3 7 месяцев назад
do you think he has? how do any of us know? I see people of high social and religious status who are deceived .
@phariseeinrecovery7181
@phariseeinrecovery7181 7 месяцев назад
We've all been deceived. I'm sure Connor is fully aware he still has a long way to go. The key to God changing our hearts is being willing to admit we have been deceived and will be again.
@ruckin3
@ruckin3 7 месяцев назад
@@phariseeinrecovery7181 so how does one avoid deception ?
@phariseeinrecovery7181
@phariseeinrecovery7181 7 месяцев назад
@@ruckin3 I wish I had the perfect answer, but I'm still trying to figure it out and I'm still being deceived. I'd like to think I'm less deceived than I used to be, but Satan is good at what he does. I like many of the things mentioned in this video. I also like D&C 45: 57: Taking the Holy Spirit for our guide instead of trusting in the arm of the flesh. Recognize that all men are fallible, especially ourselves. I try not to be complacent and think I have anything figured out. I also try to apply the scriptures to myself. What about you? What have you found helpful to avoid deception?
@jum5238
@jum5238 7 месяцев назад
He's reading from the scriptures. Kinda hard to be deceived with them. Pray about them, and see if you get an understanding of their truth.
@ericredd5590
@ericredd5590 5 месяцев назад
God, our creator, created everything. He created the devil, he created our savior, he created the veil we passed through to mortality, he created our physical disabilities, he created our mental illness. God even created the enmity between himself and the devil, by asking him for a plan that would help gods children make it back to god’s presence. The when god did not like the plan that was presented cast the devil out for presenting a plan that god asked him for in the first place. So, god did all this so he could carry out his eternal cosmic battle with his son the devil giving him power to impact the lives of his children for simple presenting a plan that god himself asked for. So, now we are under a plan not that came from god when he laid out his best plan, we are under a plan that seems to be a result of gods anger after hearing the devils plan. We are simple pawns that will be used by god one day and the devil the next, only to be destroyed in the great and dreadful day when god will decide that he is tire of allowing the devil reign on this earth where he was banished by god in the first place. Why would a god who created everything that exists ask his creations for their ideas on how god should govern and punish or reward all of his children? Either we are operating with false teachings or god is raging a cosmic battle with the devil and there is nothing we can do except pretend we understand anything about god or the devil. But, as a safety valve to ensure that no one walks back into the presence of god, he has given us tokens and symbols and handshake that will be the ultimate factor to determine who god will accept back into his presence. Not even the savior who was the scapegoat who would suffer the sins of all gods creations so that he alone could understand and atone for each and every sin committed by god children can judge us and present us to god without the correct handshake as the final act of worthiness. If there is a “GOD” I hope he is above all this religious dogma and speculation. We have created an extremely crazy religious god.
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