Shared this with siblings some days ago: I’m laughing at the story shared here for a minute and a half starting at 18:28. A lady, single mom, with a career, bought a house that had been a polygamist home with 4 apartments in it. She put out an ad and got 2 other single mom’s in there plus a young couple having their first kids. The lady, with this setup, had her childcare needs taken care of. Each day another adult was in charge of watching the crew of kids. So many dynamics are wrecking the way things have been in the past with traditional marriage breaking down. I didn’t anticipate much, frankly, by listening to this, but that story proved intriguing. I hardly dare think of a generation or two out, in terms of the trends, the stressfulness of many to marry and not divorce (younger generations seem to consider it a trap that will lead to ruin). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bBs2KaWwRq4.htmlsi=CvJDvGO_C5L_Sz_O

Thank you , please do not judge them. Our singles brothers and sisters have faced so much trials in their young life. Let's just except them, and welcome them in our Wards

I was there years ago, stark contrast to other properties maintained by the LDS Church. The Church of Christ obviouslym were not able to maintain as the LDS Church will now be able to. I too didn’t necessarily enjoy the scripts at each site over and over, but we don’t know what they will do now at the Temple. Regardless the spirit will testify to those who are ready. There were obvious differences in their understanding and presentation. Any way it was quite run down. Hope I get to go again and see what we do with it.

Modern temples are constructed differently. The stone facing is a thin veneer. The corner stone is just a container box with a stone veneer face. It serves no structural function. The original endowment took about six hours to complete. You actually got in a tub and got washed during your washing and anointing. I really don’t think it would be practical to go back to the old ways of doing things. It really simply boils down to do you acknowledge the current president as God’s true prophet on earth or don’t you? The church leadership make the changes they see appropriate. I have no say in what the church does. I do have the choice of staying active in it or leaving. The church is going to do what it’s going to do.

Once again I so appreciate your musings. There are pastors like Jack Hibbs of California, John McArthur, Jonathan Cahn awa others who continue to fearlessly stand up for correct principles like life, family, sin, preaching from actual scripture and also support people who stand on these issues who may be running for public office. They even encourage people to run who stand for God,family and Freedom for public office. I appreciate the deduction I get from tithing. It helps me to still itemize. But I do it in obedience to Christ telling me that He’s given me everything I have and He wants me to share a small 10% to help others. Then He promises blessings that the government can’t because every thing they do enslaves us a little more every year. Christ said Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar and unto God that which is Gods. Jesus didn’t let the money changers dictate to Him what He could and couldn’t do. He chastised governments and mostly Church Leaders who demanded so much from the people. Look at the cowardly way Church leaders supported hiding money in order to keep it from being taxed. Look at what the major investments were. Look at federal law policy that changes the definition of the family. The members let it happen because they did nothing on their own to stop it. Christ never said that it was ok to hide Caesar’s money from Him. The Church started requiring tithing for protection and blessings. I think if our contribution is tax deductible, the Church should pay taxes on the increase because they didn’t earn the money but we did and freely shared it. I would also be fine with paying taxes because I know the blessings attached to it come from our Father in Heaven. With all that excess of our tithes and offerings, I’d rather see it go to taxes than be fined $5 million in penalties by the SEC. Where is our role model???? I pay tithing to share with those who need it or are doing the Lotd’s work. I love doing it because I love my Savior and He asked me to do it. I have since a child growing up in a Baptist Church because I read it in the Bible. It was not a new concept when I joined the Church. Pay taxes and gain autonomy or don’t pay taxes and find courage to stand for correct principles . Thank you for your courage in fighting for our Constitutional rights. I wish more people did. Man doesn’t always set an example but Christ sure did to the point of sacrificing His life. He said Come Follow Me.

For the record, I believe Joseph and sweet Emma. God bless them both🌿

Thank you my friend for your courage and love. Why don't I feel our leaders speak up with the courage you do? Are they avoiding many subjects to be poplular?

Never apologize and talk about how scary it is to speak and how glad you will be to have this over, how you have suffered since being asked ect…good way to make those listening uncomfortable, speaking is a wonderful spiritual experience.

when the time is right, it will be revealed to us.

I just remember hearing the leaders talk about how when they went to college they would work during the summers and pay for tuition. I went to college in the early 2000s and felt a little deflated at the time that I could not do the same. I didn’t realize the economic of what was going on at the time.

Is it really apocryphal that Brigham young said that? Or did he just not say it publicly and it’s a family story?

I think it’s time the church got out of to marry or not marry business. It’s no one’s business but the individual. It’s been an overreach since Brigham.

The only part about this video that had an answer seemed to be the 1970’s question portion. The rest felt like a weird berating of single people in the church and some gross confession about going online to make out with a stranger. This is a warped time in the world where the ability of a man to take care of his family is the lowest I’ve ever even read about and the wife is now to work and watch kids if they have any. People are delaying, not because of just culture, but because of the ability to provide. You’re criticizing and not providing any… well anything.

I think a big part of the problem started when the "culture" of the church switched heavily to group dating or this "date for marriage" idea. We need to reintroduce a casual dating culture back into the youth programs and let them learn about the things they like when they are young so they have more if a keen eye when they start to date more seriously. I don't necessarily see pushing girls to complete their education as such a bad thing but the shift has been for women to be the breadwinners, which works in some families, but not all, and pressures the girls to focus on making money instead of building families. Just my 2 cents.

I'm not waiting for the church to act. The church is only there to assist us with our families and ordinances anyway. We all have to take responsibility for our own families and face the music, family by family. There's no way I'm allowing my children's future to be solely in the hands of the young men's and young women's leaders and bishoprics. The "come follow me" program is critical and anyone who's not doing it is only playing spiritual and social roulette with their families.

Chief midegah of the ojibwe nation and the birch bark scrolls. The nemenhah records

As a married young divorcee, waiting until after your brain is psychologically out of adolescence (age 22+) seems to be a great trend! I think ideal marriage age shouldn’t be before 24 it could help with divorce rates quite a bit.

I agree! Good counsel!

"Ol' Joe Smith and them Mowmons aw causin' trubble agin, dag-gum!"

Early 70’s... I blame the birth control pill which became popular throughout the 60’s. Give about a decade or so for it to permeate society and the culture changes to let women work more than they did before and there ya go. Women who normally would have been raising kids now are working. This huge rise in the number of workers lowered demand and wages went down for everyone, relative to productivity.

The 1970s is also when women increasingly entered the workforce thanks to the lies of feminism. You double the labor supply without changing anything else, you inevitably halve the compensation.

Maybe bring masculinity back men be head of there homes not the women men are the enemy it seems men looking at women women looking at men has a big x on it and quit sugar coating everything could start there

I really think the ancient Hebrew wedding traditions need to be implemented in the house of Israel again. What better time than now? Right now I would happily select the bride for my son, pay the brides family a dowry, and allow my son a year or more to build a home on my property for his future bride if she keeps her self chased virtuous throughout that waiting period of uncertainty, and once the new home is ready, I would be happy for him to go and pick up his bride. Of course, the other portions of the covenant and promises of the marriage contract must be fulfilled and validated at the wedding consummation. I’m pretty sure the God of heaven instituted this system for a reason why would we think we could improve upon his chosen traditional system?

I'm actually a bit shocked at the comments. TONS of VERY insecure ppl. I Love being single, I'm not embarrassed and don't feel ashamed or weird. Everyone at church treats me like everyone else. If you act weird, ppl will treat you weird. A whole lot of ppl blaming married couples and leadership for treating them differently. Maybe they are getting a weird vibe from you all, 'cause y'all sound weird to me. I don't want to spend time with some single people that are insecure and feel bad or uncomfortable being single or are maybe jealous or bitter they aren't married. I had a ward that half the ward fell into that category. I left and started attending a family ward. LOTS of weird single ppl. Maybe YOU all are the problem.

Bring back polygamy.

I was in a bishopric as a counselor, and I can say that the young men’s program is garbage. These poor boys have no structure. I feel bad for the bishopric, as well. They need to create a young men presidency in the ward level again. The Bishopric is too busy attending to other matters of the ward and cannot keep up with the needs of the young men. I know they relieved the bishop by adding more responsibility to the elders, quorum president and the Relief Society President, but there are many things that neither one of those organizations can do with extending callings, counting tithing, temple recommend interviews and much more.

Excellent review. Here is the solution: 1) Abolish singles wards, except perhaps for the 18-26 college undergrad and equivalent population who are still in our society's state of prolonged adolescent dependency. Everyone over 26 goes to a geography based ward. They are not "family wards." Members of the Church by that age have served missions, and should be able to stand on their own as contributors to Zion. They can serve in Primary and YW and YM (where they may provide far more age proximate dynamism than older leaders) and they can learn to serve Saints who are now excluded from singles wards - single moms, the elderly, the recovering, etc. - you know the people Christ served. As for the issue that single members feel excluded, a very large number of adult members are single. When they are no longer siphoned off to singles wards, they will constitute a substantial part of most geography based wards, and even the most biased married leaders will find it very difficult to ignore them, and those with inspiration will be delighted by the infusion of young dynamic members. Maybe it could turn wards back into the kind of Christian communities that they were in the pre-stripped down era. 2) As for how single members meet potential mates, first after the abolition of singles wards, many wards will have large numbers of single members, and could still support FHE groups, stakes could again sponsor single activities and so forth, substantially reproducing many of the opportunities to meet other singles that the singles wards supposedly supplied. However, the most important step would be that the Church needs to initiate a Church-wide dating app. In the time when singles met at dances, the Church sponsored dances. Now singles meet online. There are many aspects to this (memo available if anyone is serious), but basically men would have to go to the bishop and women the RS president to get on. It would not be a temple-style interview, but focus instead on whether the people were seriously interested in getting married. Photos would all have to meet missionary dress standards, and the personal statements encouraged to focus on spiritual matters. I know there is no guarantee that this would screen out all the creeps, but it would have much better reach (especially for areas with fewer members) and at least some greater level of comfort than any commercial dating app.

Oh, another one! Having one parent an active member of the church and one nonmember parent has been interesting... When I started noticing the term "part-member family" being used about my family I was so weirded out! The feeling that I got from those using that term was that they saw me, my siblings, and my mom as "part-members" ourselves (with more fragile testimonies and needing to be sheparded along in particular way) because my dad was not a member. Believe me, to be a totally active lifelong member of the church with a spouse or parent who is not a member, does not make you a "part member." The rest of us were total, full-on, FULL members whose testimonies were more our own and more chosen and fully internalized (not cultural) than most of our peers', or our mom's peers for her-- it takes some serious conviction to stick to it and live it "on your own" in a relationship, and that should be recognized. Those that knew us well wouldn't have used that term. "Part Member Family" should definitely go.

I wonder how many of the youth are growing up in broken families. I grew up with divorce parents. Throughout my childhood, I believed marriage equals divorce. So why get married? I met my husband when I was 18 years old. He offered me the very things I wanted: protection and to be loved. We were 21 years old when we got married. During a dating time, we had a few leaders who said "You don't need to get married young" and tore us down for getting married when we did. The other thing we had a couple of leaders strongly recommend birth control. It is confusing to be a family centered church but yet these leaders give advice against the family unit.

As an Alaskan life-long member of the church (having gone to BYU-Hawaii and also spent some time living abroad with also several years in rural Idaho), I am glad to report that some of these were news to me! I haven't seen the Lion King Baby tradition in Alaska, and didn't know it was a thing for various people from outside the ward to attend the Sacrament Meeting sustaining of family members to the Bishopric. (There was another I hadn't heard of, though I don't remember what it was at the moment-- may have to listen again!) I have a few to add to the list. 1) "Church voice" -- This is heard particularly from women speaking at General Conference (basically ALL of them with English as their first language) It is beyond Utah accent, and more a cadence and intonation (also word choice plays a part) that is just very bizarre and totally, for me, distracts from their message. Maybe it is just a personal issue, but it's hard for me to even pay attention to what they are saying when I just get hung up on this internal dialogue, "WHY are they talking like that? To show how righteous and holy they are?" It would be so good to hear a woman speak in General Conference who just sounded like a normal person speaking boldly and intelligently without this tendency to try to sound very demure! (Julie B. Beck... Julie Beck ;) was one who spoke more plainly and "normally," though you could still hear it coming through a little. 2) Like your thought for Sunday School presidencies, I have thought and made the argument, why don't we allow a woman to hold a calling to set the talks for Sacrament meeting? It is necessarily (doctrinally) a part of the Bishop's and councelors' duties? The Priesthood is not needed for that task it seems, just Divine inspiration and this is as available to a worthy Sister, and I think we (as a gender in general) would also be great at it! Not necessarily better at it, but I would like the chance to take a turn someday to fulfill that task... I just don't see why this needs to be a Priesthood thing.. Related to that 3) In adulthood, as a member of Young Women's leadership, it has really bothered me this tradition of every time we have a Young Women's camp, we have this evening event that's supposed to be a big spiritual highlight where a Priesthood holder (usually a member of the Bishopric or Stake Presidency) comes out to speak to the Young Women. Do they have a member of Relief Society come out to speak to the Young Men at Young Men's Camp? As far as I know, typically no. I don't see why we do this. In my opinion, it would be so much more spiritually powerful and relevant for a woman (intelligent, spiritual, experienced in womanhood and motherhood and living the gospel) to be held in this position of honor to address the Young Women about the most important matters of life and spirituality. It sends the message that no matter who you are as a woman, a man will have more spiritual insight and experience than you could because he holds the Priesthood. This is not true. There are things Priesthood holders CAN do that a woman, or anyone without the Priesthood could not, but deeply inspiring the hearts and bouying up and strengthening and preparing the spirits of young women is not one of them. It feels as a leader like, "step aside woman, here come the big guns to really teach these girls what they need to know." And most of the women act like that is the case as well. (I actually made the large cultural faux-pa of raising my hand when the Bishop was done talking to the girls as we sat around a campfire to add something I felt impressed by the spirit to add, and after sharing felt some awkwardness. When I discussed this with my husband he said, "You are not supposed to talk after the Bishop. His remarks are supposed to be the final remarks." I felt angry about my embarrassment about this (not feeling like I should be made to feel embarrassed, but feeling the pressure of the cultural mistake) and went to talk to the Bishop and apologize. I thought he might laugh and say he was glad I shared and followed the Spirit and no big deal, but he said, "Yes... well... it's just usually not done that way. Not sure if it's in the handbook, but..." !!!! Guess I missed the memo growing up in Alaska. What a stupid cultural tradition!!! Seems very prideful. I was released from my calling in Young Womens not long after. Thank you for your thoughts and sharing the history on these silly traditions that you dug up.

I am a father of 6 wonderful children. My oldest is currently serving a mission in Portland Oregon. My youngest is a brilliant smiling 6 year old. I love them all so much! I have seen some of the most amazing examples in our youth stepping up in this fallen world, even this falling world, that continues to fall further and further. I am just amazed at the faith and power of the rising generation! I have no doubt that they will meet the Savior at His Second Coming and that they are up to the task. It will not be easy, but I have total confidence in them and the Lord as He continues to guide His church in these very last days of trouble and gloom, but also glory and miracles. Oh how glorious will be the day of His coming! There will be seminal moments leading up to the grand most seminal moment of all, and oh how glorious it will all be!

It doesn't matter!

Guess who else's "confession" was torture-based. Rudolf Höss. He "confessed" to killing 2.5M of the 4M supposed to have been killed (at the place I cannot name, or my comment will be deleted). Then, 40+ years later in the early 90's, the official TOTAL death toll (At said/unnamed location) was changed to 1.1M , where it stands today.

1971 Gold standard Look at food diet Obesity . Fix the MONEY!

Some of this started when more emphasis was placed on YW almost at the expense of YM. I saw this starting when I was a youth in the late 70s and early 80s. The YW were treated as untouchable princesses and the YM were treated as a bunch of hooligans who would never ever achieve the required maturity to be worthy of the princess in her ivory tower. The result was that the YW considered themselves untouchable and the YM could never achieve the impossible goal placed before them, so they rose only to the expectation placed on them. That was happening then. It’s much worse now. When scouts died, what little expectation for excellence in YM there was, died with it. The church replaced it with basically nothing. I feel like I was on that last chopper out of ‘Nam.

I stopped attending singles wards when I was 27, because I was tired of living in never never land, and I wanted opportunities to actually serve in the church. Unfortunately, in my family ward, I found that some members of the church infantilize single people and I was sometimes treated accordingly. For a brief moment, when I served in a young women presidency, I felt like I had close friends at church and like I was well-connected in my ward, but most of my experience as a single adult in family wards has been that I'm ignored. Unless you have an important calling or you have a spouse and children, you are not really part of a family ward. I'll die before I go back to a singles ward, though.

My condolences to Clay Sanner's family. Leaving 6 sons behind.. Such a tragic event.. Thanks for doing something. You guys are a powerhouse! As for guns in churches, thanks for clearing the air that the LDS church does have people able and ready to defund their family, members and themselves. As for myself for self defense, to protecting my family, and/or innocent, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

We had a Scottish guy in the college singles ward who was older 36 and the bishop refused to kick him out because he liked him. His accent made him more attractive. He was dating my roommate 19 for a short time and had sex with her. Then he had sex with several other young girls in ward. He was a predator. Just tried to get what he could out of the young girls and would coax them to do things that were inappropriate then immediately dump them. Even after multiple girls came to him, he still didn’t kick him out. So annoying. I worry about the age change.. I know not everyone is a creep but the new young girls are subject to people who have ulterior motives. Can the 1st presidency come out and tell the men that it’s never okay to ask for naked pictures. It’s a huge problem. The lds men act like this is okay.

I believe he was married to follow the earthly reason we are here, eternal marriage.

Alma 30:18 And thus he did preach unto them, leading away the hearts of many, causing them to lift up their heads in their wickedness, yea, leading away many women, and also men, to commit whoredoms-telling them that when a man was dead, that was the end thereof. What anti christs are telling women to be prideful in wickedness in culture now???

Just shared a talk from Julie Beck at BYU in 2009 about this for my Sunday School class............Anti family is anti Christ.

So true! Makes me think of Edward Snowden's phrase: "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals”

For starters, you have the feminist movement has seeped into the church saying their's few good men or none in the church, and the female entitlement is off the charts. The value of young men see their value in the church and out in society as undesirable in society. They see their value, and they fall into video games. and other activities that guide them away from the young woman. They have seen how their friends in the church and school have been treated with no value...you see this enough your desire will be dashed. Men in society have been trash on the internet. Seeing these things daily is the reason why young men are refusing to date. If I had to date now, I wouldn't, and I wouldn't be involved in the single adult program, either. These young women need to know that they aren't any more important than the young men. Marage is to equal people coming together. Not quitting when things get tough. Work through your problems. Life is not easy. Some people have never been taught to work through problems. You come to the table with a pure heart and know that you're going to have to change. I've seen young women and women go to the internet and spew their love of themselves and dislike of men. Rather than approach the relationship as both parties are going to have to make changes, For them, being right is more important. They discredit the Brethren that guide the church today. Saying that they will change policies one day, or, they're too old and out of touch for today's church. These people may have a following, for attention, but" in the end, they will have their reward".

The government has been pushing the narrative that you need school and a degree? Um Hinkley pushed that huge.

I'm 29 so my YSA ward time was drawing to an end lol. I think this is a good change. There's been a lot of pushback saying it's weird for 35 year olds to be in the same ward as 18 year olds, but I have 0 desire to hang out with kids that just finished high school lol. I don't think people realize that aging out also meant leaving all your 30, 29, 28 , 27 year old friends and what's worse you feel like a total outcast and failure being "kicked-out!" lol. Also as an example, my bishop asked me to tell one of my old friends that was 32 that he had to go to the family ward. This was a terrible experience. It felt like telling someone they are unwelcome at our church. I also just knew he wasn't going to attend and he had been making really great progress in the church. I think this will be a good change.

Some of these comments are a little depressing to me. I was a single F until 35. I went to BYU, made myself available, stayed in happy valley as long as I could, stayed fit, did my best to make myself attractive and interesting, etc. As time progressed I recognized my path was not the same as many of my peers and not the one the YW curriculum said I should . I decided on grad school when I wasn’t married and didn’t want to work a min wage job in some unfamiliar city. After my MBA, I got a job and moved to several large cities as job transfers occurred. I bought a house in each of those places because I could and it made financial sense. I continued to attend singles wards until I was 30, when it all became too exhausting. I wasn’t getting asked out and it seemed like a fruitless effort. I did have a few very fringe suitors that just absolutely did not fit the definition of normal. One even went to the bishop complaining that I didn’t want to date him and the bishop advised me I should act less successful if I wanted to get married. I was “too intimidating”. Because I had a job and didn’t live with 4 roommates…. Our gender roles in the church don’t help this situation at all. Men want helpless but mildly capable women that “need” them. Women want a knight in shining armor that will allow them to live the traditional stay at home life. Neither are very realistic in this day and age. Ultimately I went to a family ward and was set up on a date with a man who welcomed the idea of a woman who had fended for herself in this tough world. We have made a life for ourselves and our children that doesn’t fit the mold, and we’re good with that. I wish YSA could embrace something less than “traditional” and see the opportunities. When it’s not perfect, they bail out and leave altogether because it’s all too exhausting to feel your dreams unmet in an idealistic environment.

Having worked with youth and young adults my entire professional and ecclesiastical life, I can assuredly say young men are not the main issue. We have allowed feminism philosophy to captivate girls and young women and the church. Look how often we stress higher education compared to marriage and family anymore with this generation. Our lack of faith and conversion to God’s Plan is the fruit we now bear.

Democracy was a mistake.

Babylon part deux.

he's wrong about the gold standard connection. Yes, the gold standard connection is a problem, but that's a financial issue which makes poor men poorer and rich men richer and poor men have a hard time getting married and a harder time STAYING married! Yet, the church does NOTHING to help poor young men stabalize their lives. It's sick and sad but it's true... the LDS Church hates poor men... facts. THE REAL connection is this: FEMINISM started strong in 1971 and has RUINED EVERYTHING! FACTS!!!