Somebody else has probably said this before, but Sean you forgot one of the most important uses of Shift. If you have half a control group of marines as control group 1 and want to add another 6 marines to it, you can select those 6 marines and use Shift 1 to add them to group 1.
This doesn't require a whole document, so here's the sum up: Learn all the hotkeys (including upgrades) Click on things, don’t make huge boxes Move then build, don’t build away Click exactly where you want to go Use control groups: shift to add/remove units Make the order+deselect(spread/cloning)+control(if desired) (e.g. sweeping to explore, allocate workers in a expansion) Control click select all the same units Small box+shift+small boxes when lot of units clustered Macro with base management: click and hotkey or vice versa Shift can be used to establish waypoints (e.g. drop route) Shift+f2/f3/f4 to screen hotkey (e.g. mining after building, manage bases, rally points) Be mindful of scrolling/panning, use screen hotkeys instead Don’t right click on the minimap Hold middle click to center panning (scroll fast) Shifting hotkeys with number/ctrl+number+-1
One trick he never mentioned here is that if something happens in the game and gives you an alert, you can press spacebar to center your screen on whatever caused the alert. e.g. You hear “Nuclear Launch Detected.” Press spacebar, your screen centers on the red dot so you can see where it is. Most players with some experience probably already know this, but I thought it was worth mentioning for the newbies :)
“Nuclear Launch Detected.” Press spacebar, your screen centers on the red dot so you can see where it is. Nice. Didn't know that. Extremely helpful considering how devastating a nuke can be.
You must be shitting me. Ill go test this now xD Edit: After testing this is ofc not true. Nuclear Launch Detected doesnt change your Spacebars most recent location. If this works its like a cheat. Why? Because this would even show location in fog of war vs other enemies, thats why i think youre lying here. Spacebar is only used for reports done by your units. A nuclear launch isnt necessarily hurting you which is why this shouldnt work.
@@Yonny316 iirc this is not true either. A DT that is detected(visible to you) will cause alarm on one-shot(probe drone marine etc). Alarm of attacked is on first shot and doesnt need a second. Edit: Just to be sure ill test it later today. Edit2: To clarify: A DT one-shotting while staying undetected doesnt cause alarm, True.
7:26 - btw, in contrast to starcraft 2 and maybe other rts, if you give the order to build a building the resources are substracted the moment the building process begins. So if Sean had 100mins for his first depot and order the building of the depot, then jumps to the CC to macro and queues up two scvs the depot will not be build. Especially for people who played alot of sc2 will have to retrain to avoid this habit. 16:29 - Selection of things works when a key is being released: Pressed -> Released. You can see and hear it also at 21:23 the marines are selected as soon as Sean releases the mouse button. So for fast production what happened for me so far is that I tried to do it as fast as possible and some buildings would not build anything. Thats because my sequence of click->hotkey (select building->start building unit) was messed up. Therefore I encourage everyone to be very clean in all sequences that invole mouse selection and hotkey usage. You will get faster as you play. If you will never muscle memory this sequence of command cleanly you will always mess up your production and never be really fast. Thats all, hope it helps someone :)
I used to click on upgrades ALL the time forever. I found out that the easiest way to learn those hotkeys and get used to them is to bind them like the grid hotkeys in SC2. That way every single upgrade that's top left is Q, every single upgrade in the middle is S, every single upgrade in bottom right is C, and so on. I highly recommend this, it is the easiest way to start upgrading with hotkeys.
Or if you use your rightmost control groups for upgrades, you could "move" the grid keys to the right side of the keyboard(for example T, Y, U, G, H, J, B, N, M)
This causes problems for those used to 'a' for attack and 's' for stop. This is one of the reasons why I dislike using grid in Starcraft II, moving all the way to 't' to a-move is too painful. The way I have it set up now is, to me, incredibly comfortable. attack is 'a', stop is 's', move is 'q', patrol is 'w' and hold position is 'e'. Since worker units don't have patrol or hold position I set gather and return resources to 'w' and 'e' Repair, rally point and load are all set to 'r' while unload is set to 'f' Apart from that all other special abilities, production, construction, upgrades etc. is set according to grid placement. I've struggled with getting a similar setup in SCII as the hotkeys there are much more complicated and a 5x3 command card is a less comfortable area to map. If I had my way players should be allowed to rearrange their command cards as well as their hotkeys, as that would make the whole thing much more intuitive.
This is the best series i've ever watched. i played alot of SC BW with my friends way back in early 2000's and now, twenty years later comming back and playing for fun in SC BW but as a dad lol. if i had all this knowledge back then.. damn. this series you've made is timeless and iam comming back to check back and forth what tips i missed! Thank you for sharing all this day9, i really appreciate it, it brings back so much good memories!
Dude, you're teaching a college level course in starcraft, and living off of it. Seriously, you're a fantastic role model and the only living person I idolize. Honestly, don't really care for most dead people too. You're seriously the best, an inspiration the likes of which the world has never seen and may never fully appreciate. You go Glen CoCo
im 99% sure you can run games with just one slot open for the player now, instead of having a computer slot. Sean, you have inspired me to play starcraft again and have reinvigorated my passion for the game. Your lessons and content are unbelievably interesting and helpful. I havent been this hype for a video game at all since like 2007-2009 era SC2GG.com where we watched your brother Tasteless cast from Korea. Thank you for all you do, and for the love of god keep the videos coming! Even after you do all the lessons, the more game analysis the better I feel.
1:56 Learn ALL the hot keys including upgrades. Hover on them if you don't remember, then press the key. 4:35 Improve mouse accuracy by clicking on unit or create a box as small as possible. Large box wastes mouse movements and select units randomly which may cause pathfinding issues. 7:30 Move worker to the exact location then start building. 9:25 Move units to exactly where you want them to go. 14:30 Hotkey one production building, then click building, keyboard unit to produce. 17:15 Alternatively, when you try to build different units, use keyboard to select building, use mouse to build, such as tank/vulture. 20:00 Check production when micro the front line by tap the building hotkey. 21:30 Hold shift to add/remove units to your current control group. 24:00 Send an entire group away, deselect one unit by holding shift click, use control to regroup the rest unit. Useful with scouting, scourge, mining etc. 28:45 Sean rage quit to AI dark templar 31:30 Ctrl click to select same units. NEVER double click. Always prefer keyboard + mouse. 32:12 Kill odd units to feel powerful. 34:20 Shift + small boxes to avoid random select by using ctrl or large boxes. 34:47 You can't select multiple buildings hence Starcraft sucks :) 35:40 Shift to set up waypoints. (Setup specific routes for your shuttle/drop ship/overlord) Unfortunately can't queue tasks. 43:10 Shift + F1-4 to save a screen. 46:00 Pay attention to worker complete audio cue. 49:00 Setup specific screen hotkeys, manage your game by swapping screens, not by scrolling your mouse wildly. 58:00 Start from the highest ctrl group, shift up, then next lower ctrl group, shift up, etc. For instance, 3->4, 2->3, 1->2, 1. 1:00:00 Official recap from Sean.
There are only ever 9 choices for a unit/building. 3 rows and 3 per row. Use the keys QWE ASD ZXC For everything so if you want the middle option you click S. Last option, click C. It's an easy visual and minimal hand movement.
ZX can be annoying, I prefer to do top row QWE, 2nd row ASD bottom row RFC (so it's like top line, next line, side line) thereby avoiding the most annoying keys ZX. Annoyingly there are a few cases where you'll have to switch it up a bit (one for zerg) and a few others where the thing appears multiple times in multiple places so ends up inconsistent. But that's like 2-3 at most if I recall so no big deal.
D0wnshift Key bind is ok, but I feel like the hand has always to be all over the keyboard for Ctrl groups, I just find everything closer having classical than having to go 6 Q instead of 6 V for vultures. Its just my thing of course
This is a good idea, and I actually just recently set my hotkeys to this. What I realized, though, is that with this hotkey scheme the only real comfortable control groups are going to be 1-4 and once you go beyond 5 you're gonna require quite some hand movement for simple tasks. That is why I think it makes sense to map it like this, but move it to the center of the keyboard. Use for example TYU, GHJ and BNM. Then, when you assign control groups instead of starting from 1 and working your way up, start with 5 and go down and 6 and go up. For example, assign your first army 5. Next army, 4. Assign one building to 6, and the next one 7. This ensures your control groups stay as close as your hotkeys as possible. Of course, you're now a bit further away from Ctrl and Shift, and I don't know if the sacrifice is worth it. Regardless, it might be worth to try. I also realize I'm responding to only 6 year old comments, but what the heck. 😅
what an incredible clarity, I was high diamond sc2 and I decided to come back 1 years later on the remastered I played when I was young. thanks for this serie
+Day9TV you can also do "shift grouping" Very usefull during post skirmishes or all-ins Scenario: Grp1, 2 and 3 have taken casualties. 7 marines, 7 marines, 7 marines. Marines are rallied to replenish your troops from the base. Box the reinforcements and Shift1 til it's full, repeat with Grp2 and 3. In fact I tend to shift-group alltogether cause it does exactly what ctrl does and a little more.
It's Friday. So I might finally buy SCR tonight and start learning some of the stuff I've been watching ... maybe... maybe I'll just watch Netflix. I must be working too much because i have videogames on my to do list right next to my chores
You forgot to mention that, in the same way you add to your selection of units another selection of units with the mouse and shift command, you can add the current selection to a control group using shift + number. e.g. shift+2 to add current selction to group number 2. Great videos btw.. as the ones before! Learnt so much stuff
Dude it took me 1 hour to find a great quality video such as this one where people explain things to detail very well.. thank you so much this was super helpful i hope you are still making videos ☺️
The Man the Myth The Leggggggend. stumbled on this after years and years love you man you're a great content creator always missed you saw your baldurs gate 3 video the other day it made my happy to see you're alive and still kicking. This is the way brother
This is a really nice sequence of learning videos so far! Even entertaining if there is nothing new to learn - a very well sorted and organized presentation of Starcraft theory. Keep it up! :)
Regarding control groups: Did he mention that you can hold shift and press a number to add the current selection to that control group? You can do that. You can do this even if the target control group is empty. Regarding camera hotkeys: One thing that you can use to center your camera on a base/unit to create a camera hotkey is Alt+C(Ctrl+C also works), and then Shift+F2. Regarding hotkeys in general: If you want an overview of the different types of UI hotkeys, you can go to the menu ingame and press "Help"(or just press F11 or Alt+H), then "Keystroke Help".
Neat trick that I don't think gets utilized enough: Spacebar focuses on the most recent alert. So if you have a Command Center that just built an SCV, you can hit spacebar to center on it immediately and deal with the new worker/queue up a new one. The one downside is that if two things finish at around the same time, you might end up at a different one than you expected. This also works for upgrades and combat alerts (so if you're being attacked and you don't have anything in a control group there, you can hit spacebar to immediately go there and micro).
I have a fun suggestion: Instead of reloading everytime either leave a crippled enemy with no units and save that as a point to load into the demo or - if you need some enemy units - build a strong containment that easily holds the crippled enemy for as long as you need.
Sean: click ON the units! 26:35 (edit, to 26:40) - makes MASSIVE boxes over the marines he's retreating covering a quarter of the screen. Oh Day9... You so silly. :3
Not that it matter that much, but u missed an option u can do with the Shift - select units you want to add to a control group and then you shift + control group (1,2,3,4,5), without previously selecting units of that same control group. Anyway, nice videos man! Keep up the good work!
notice at 26:35 when he's selecting individual marines how he uses huge box selections which he had earlier suggested you get out of the habit of doing so you can build mouse accuracy
i'm new to starcraft... and i found day9tv by playing hearthstone in the beginning always loved the guy but never really watched him. (i fucking love him btw) but things like this shows just how good of a teacher sean is... i genuinly feel i'm in a uni class about starcraft! lol!
Sean.. I have a confession. I have vigorously watched all your material since launch of SC2. Never played (any) starcraft multiplayer. I did half the campaign once with cheats. Greetings from ö-land
Sean I'm so glad you agree they should have fogged maps in this game. I don't think blacking it out adds any significant gameplay. But I get that you have to respect the "purists" of BW. Then again, if anyone was gonna be a purist it'd be you...
The command buttons are perfectly laid in a 3x3 box, wouldn't it be good to assign one hotkey for one button regardless of what command it is? Like QWE ASD ZXC Then you just press the button that corresponds to the same position in the 3x3 box.
Move ZXC to CVB, your thumb will be very grateful. ZXC is very awkward for the hand, because you'll end up looking like the dude in the wheelchair in Scary Movie 2. Also it fits better for the original B and V hotkeys for building.
In the example for how to bump up your control-groups by 1; seeing as the desired 2-4 was all vultures, wouldn't it be better to just move 1 to 4 to open up for the tank? I realize this might be worse while learning the game though
Maybe I'm missing something but if I have 1:vultures, 2:vultures, 3:vultures and I want to put tanks on 1, why would you shift every control group up one instead of just moving 1 to 4 (hit 1 then ctrl4) and then ctrl 1 on the tanks? why go through each one?
Agree. I imagine it's more a case of "shifting right" keeps the mental model intact (these are units for X, these are units for Y) while switching inverts it. But honestly think why day9 does it like that is because this method works in all cases so you can just brute force it to be the fastest method instead of having one method for some cases, another method for other cases or having to think whats optimal in the moment.
Amazing tips and content thank you for this Day9 as someone who's starting out in SC for the first time and RTS in general coming from FPS. But with the greatest respect, why do/did you not just make a custom game without bots? xD
the middle mouse thing is really annoying because in SC2 it was my preferred method of camera movement, but in SC:R there's no sensitivity setting so it's way too much
I don't think you talked about Shift + hotkey number => adds the current selection to that hotkey and Alt + hotkey number => does exactly the same as double tapping the hotkey.
He used his rines on another rine, that would be the move command which will follow the rine he clicked and never attack. Hold command does attack units thats hostile. Move on another unit is the only way to keep a unit from firing a hostile except for allying it (you can ally an enemy to keep your army from firing and showing your position (done on cliffs)).
When you have high amounts of supply, how do you hotkey? Do you go up to like 8 groups? And how is it with protoss, e.g. when you have special units like hts, reavers and arbiters, observers, etc.?
Hey shawn/Sean idk spell your name.. please respond to this I'm super old school player like yourself... I have question for you cause I never got to see you play Did you ever play Rekrul and if you did who would you consider better? I know Dan (Rekrul) personally.. I've asked him many times but with his stupid poker skills I cant tell if hes lying or not.. I'm just wondering at your prime vs his who would you consider better? He was a low apm player but didnt need much with protoss and back then... Please respond ... I cant find a single replay of you so I cant even make my own judgement, I believe you did win a wcg? USA? Or Canada? Oh and were you better then semih?
In some games it's possible to drag-select multiple buildings and hotkey them to a control group. Is it possible in this game? If so, why are you not doing that?
I hate how youtube now makes you subscribe twice to channels now just to see all their content. I didn't realise i hadn't clicked the bell on your channel because i have been subscribed for years and now they think i don't wanna see all the content. Sorry mini rant lol
sean, i've bean (hehe) watching your video's for a good ole minute. And i have to say, you re the man, please dont stop making them thangs. p.s . im wasted.
Everything he's saying here applies to single player as well, since they're just ways to make the game easier to manage and play. If you have time to play the game at all, you have time to learn this stuff! It's not a question of enough time, it's whether you want to put in the effort.
I always questioned why you haven't just made saves of pre-existing scenarios, with ready starports, ready minerals, ready supply, just to load to without having to re-input every cheat code. Maybe just leave 1 building to the comps just so they'll never bring out any unit. If you already did if the newer vids then just ignore me and laugh in triumph, for now...
