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Let's Make A Gamma World 4th Edition Character 

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The ultimate edition of the World of Gamma... from TSR at least. Featuring advancements that wouldn't be seen again until TSR went out of business.
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00:00 Intro
02:30 Genotype
07:08 Attributes
08:15 Mutations
10:40 Class
12:39 Skill Points
13:24 Derived Attributes
16:02 Cryptic Aliances
16:43 Equipment
20:18 Mechanics
23:27 Artifact Identification
27:50 Combat
33:36 Compared to AD&D
36:59 Advancement
37:45 Final Thoughts
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@devonpearson4315
@devonpearson4315 8 дней назад
He really went "Unbird's your fish" and then proceeded to go "Unmans your fish, too." Bro did that fish dirty.
@recurvestickerdragon
@recurvestickerdragon 8 дней назад
*re-feathers your biped*
@GrandGobboBarb
@GrandGobboBarb 7 дней назад
and presumably proceeded to eat the fish5
@goldend791
@goldend791 9 дней назад
said was making a duck character, clearly makes a goose character. the injustices to geese only continue
@mizublackriver7021
@mizublackriver7021 8 дней назад
THE FLUMP, IT MOVES NOW, IT'S ALIVE
@RodeThe600
@RodeThe600 9 дней назад
I love these "Lets make a [xxx] character" videos
@rommdan2716
@rommdan2716 8 дней назад
Now we need a TTTPG called [xxx]
@Cythil
@Cythil 8 дней назад
I do find it gives a pretty good idea about how the systems works. In a big overview, at least.
@marcbennett9232
@marcbennett9232 8 дней назад
Same here
@yuvalgabay1023
@yuvalgabay1023 8 дней назад
Its exists its called f.a.t.a.l​@@rommdan2716
@GKahla
@GKahla 8 дней назад
Is it really a surprise this edition is the most appreciated among the fans? All the rules, in order of use, relatively easily searchable?!? Unpossible!! Loving the duck -
@drgoo2825
@drgoo2825 9 дней назад
This really seems like a "Right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing" moment in terms of game development at TSR. Was it a matter of different writers on different projects, of demands from higher ups to keep the old Thac0 around, of some folks conflating this unintuitive chart business to brand and game identity? I am curious where it all lands.
@captainstarlight3780
@captainstarlight3780 8 дней назад
There is a lot of things in old edition DnD that was kept at the behest of some very adamant old guards from what I hear. Or Grognards to use the term.
@thebolas000
@thebolas000 8 дней назад
This would have been the dark times of TSR where Lorraine Williams was running it into the ground. A lot of new releases were coming out with little oversight or editing. Jim Ward and Bruce Nesmith probably didn't have anyone paying attention to what they were making, so they weren't bound to previous design decisions. AD&D 2e was also supposed to be backwards compatible with 1e, so ditching THAC0 was probably seen as too big a change.
@shiroamakusa8075
@shiroamakusa8075 9 дней назад
The secret origins of psyduck revealed!
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 8 дней назад
4:50: You can play a mutant octopus? Awesome. I wonder if I can convince someone in my gaming group to run Gamma World...
@recurvestickerdragon
@recurvestickerdragon 8 дней назад
hell yeah, be the orangina gal
@DemiIsNotHere
@DemiIsNotHere 7 дней назад
Having both the Roleplay and roll identification kinda makes sense. In a way, my character could identify partial use of an artifact, but still need to thinker with it in order to fully understand it. Or, my character could have no idea of what it is and thinker his way into understanding.
@mariogariazzo2024
@mariogariazzo2024 6 дней назад
It's really cool to see the evolution of game design
@SpaceButler010
@SpaceButler010 8 дней назад
My only experience with Gamma World is Omega World, which is a D20 conversion that was in Dungeon magazine. It was easy for my group to play, and I have good memories of my players encountering an "active radio" that lead to even more mutations.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 8 дней назад
What happened to worlds delta through psi?
@shallendor
@shallendor 8 дней назад
In our party, we had a flying mutant octopus Examiner with a rocket launcher and kept the rockets in his body, while i played a Bear scout! Our characters woke in our new forms from cryo chambers in the basement of a research building! Turns out that my bear loved blueberry pie! Thac0 was just the chart boiled down to a number!
@StarkMaximum
@StarkMaximum 6 дней назад
Oh yes, leather armor is the sexiest of armors. That's really important to me when I'm playing as...a mutated, humanoid duck. DuckTales always was the height of sex appeal, I guess.
@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180
@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 5 дней назад
Let me stop you there, before you attract the furries
@adammcclelland5746
@adammcclelland5746 9 минут назад
After you’re done the Gamma World series, make a character for The Robotic Age!
@Crocogator
@Crocogator 8 дней назад
I was a cheetah man with a lance and a motorcycle.
@recurvestickerdragon
@recurvestickerdragon 8 дней назад
That's badass
@Crocogator
@Crocogator 8 дней назад
@@recurvestickerdragon Well. He called it a lance. It was a broken broom handle.
@ravensombra4933
@ravensombra4933 3 дня назад
Your channel is fantastic and severely underrated. I appreciate the hard work you put into your videos, always a joy to learn about TTRPGs and Character Creation.
@phookadude
@phookadude 7 дней назад
Something interesting to look at in terms of D&D rules evolution is Dragon Fist, 1999 web published game from wizards.
@leaguesmanoframsgate
@leaguesmanoframsgate 9 дней назад
I'm really enjoying this wander through Gamma World!
@Oddmanoutre
@Oddmanoutre 7 дней назад
Ducks are already Horny Tentacle Monsters in Real Life, so the random mutation being tentacles is just the Universe imposing itself on the dice rolls.
@SatinFoxx
@SatinFoxx 6 дней назад
I know everyone is going to by hype for the "disaster" that is 4e and random character creation in 7th, or 6th's d20 system, but I genuinely can not wait to see your takes on Omega World. It seems to fix almost every problem with the series you have already described, and I'm excited to see your take on it :)
@SeinenNinja
@SeinenNinja 6 дней назад
The future editions (Alternity, D20 Modern, 4e) will be interesting ones.
@zigmenthotep
@zigmenthotep 6 дней назад
Two out of three will. I am a little annoyed that I didn't think to mention how this was also the last edition to use an original system.
@mel6023
@mel6023 6 дней назад
Love when this guy posts
@algotkristoffersson15
@algotkristoffersson15 6 дней назад
36:59 well when you need to exceed a target, adding to your roll is equivalent to subtracting from the target in terms of results. So really THAC and THAC0 do the same thing, THAC just does it in a way that is less complicated.
@Raye938
@Raye938 8 дней назад
I'm extremely disappointed that you only have 11.5K subs, I've absorbed your content and spread it to most of my friends. Keep it up buddy, I'm sure you'll go viral soon!
@ahhhhhhhhhhhhhiamok8107
@ahhhhhhhhhhhhhiamok8107 8 дней назад
A video for the lancer rpg would be fun.
@tipulsar85
@tipulsar85 8 дней назад
The funny thing is the revised 2nd edition AD&D (The black book at the end) Kind of has to state that it's not 3rd edition, because that is still in the works, and that hopefully you will be seeing it soon. This is the version that you get when you deal with the PDFs these days. The reasons why it wasn't in the cards in 1995 was due to the sheer stupidity as to what TSR was going thru as a company. At that point, the past 2 years saw them having to after dealing with the mandated fiasco that is Buck Rogers XXVc chasing after some strange new fad called Tradable Card Games with any D&D skin that could stick. From Spellfire's mess of a ruleset, through the use of Planescape's Hell for Blood Wars, to Dragon Dice's pure chaos of being just use dice and make them come in randomized boxes.
@lkim100
@lkim100 8 дней назад
yeah, i was dissapointed the version adnd 2e was the revised version. only because it didnt have the cool larry elmore art.
@z.r.e.220
@z.r.e.220 9 дней назад
I love these vids man good job!
@yeetmeister3237
@yeetmeister3237 8 дней назад
I was just reading the rulebook today! Thanks for covering this!
@benedictrogers1478
@benedictrogers1478 8 дней назад
THAC0 wiorks pretty much identically to BAB in 3.5, just inverted so that AC works the same as it did in previous editions. The actual simplest way to use it is THAC0-(1d20+modifiers)=AC hit, and it becomes even easier if you flip your modifiers and write down an Adjusted THAC0. It's just slightly unintuitive.
@lkim100
@lkim100 8 дней назад
yeah he kept saying the systems are nothinh alike, but the math is like identical, its the method thats different
@benedictrogers1478
@benedictrogers1478 8 дней назад
@@lkim100 I've noted some very clear biases in some of his videos, which I mostly just ignore because everyone has them. But this isn't the first time he's ignored looking at the actual maths because of them, and while there's a legitimate presentation argument about THAC0 the maths does not change.
@lkim100
@lkim100 8 дней назад
@@benedictrogers1478 agreed. he also has a habit of saying theres no discernible reason for an old school mechanic or other thing being the way that it is, even though you could easily find like 3 or more blogs explaining the history and reason why these old games did what they did, with like a simple google search. not that those reasons are necessarily good, but they are discernible.
@lachlanmcgowan5712
@lachlanmcgowan5712 8 дней назад
The problem with THAC0 is that it's almost impossible to run it without needing to subtract negative numbers from things. (Yes, subtracting a negative number means adding that number, but good luck making that work on the fly.)
@benedictrogers1478
@benedictrogers1478 8 дней назад
@@lachlanmcgowan5712 oh no, it's maths that seven year olds learn, however will gamers manage that!? Like I hate this argument. It's basic subtraction, it's not like you're having to do algebra or calculus to play the game.
@seanh2785
@seanh2785 8 дней назад
The duck!! Such a cool series; I really enjoy these videos!
@ponydragon4304
@ponydragon4304 8 дней назад
Can we make a *Panic at the Dojo* character next? Been looking for help with character creation in that one but cant find any videos on it. Please and thank you
@EvilCoffeeInc
@EvilCoffeeInc 8 дней назад
This series has been really fascinating so far. I'd be interested in trying a game in this system but with the old Metamorphosis Alpha setting, which seems a lot more interesting.
@etexpatriate
@etexpatriate 7 дней назад
4th is an excellent version of GW, deservedly one of the higher regarded, but it bears at lest one criticism: character-creation in it has become complex enough that it conflicts with the "go hard, die fast" nature of the setting. Crunching through several goofy mutant PCs over he course of a campaign, happy to see what ridiculous ways they'll die and what unexpected weirdo you'll roll up next, has always been part of the fun, but taking more than ten minutes to throw a PC together impedes that.
@venom66656
@venom66656 8 дней назад
Gosh, starting as a smart average sized animal that you have to buy human traits. What a novel idea I've never seen before in a game
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish 8 дней назад
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but this is very similar to what TMNT & Other Strangeness and After The Bomb does with character mutations. By default, animal characters start off as physically normal examples of their species, and spend points to gain humanoid traits and other mutations, and can spend/receive points to grow/shrink their size, based on a starting pool determined by the animal's starting size and abilities. Mice characters, for example, start off very small and weak, and so have a large pool of points to spend on mutations. Elephant characters, on the other hand, are quite large and powerful, and so have a small pool to spend, but can increase it if they make their character smaller (and thus comparatively weaker).
@venom66656
@venom66656 8 дней назад
​@@the_real_Kurt_YarishI am being sarcastic. I'm a huge fan of all Palladium Books's games
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish 8 дней назад
@@venom66656 ah, as I suspected. welp, at least a passerby reader might discover these games from this comment chain. I became a big fan of what Palladium was doing with ATB 2nd Edition from reading its sourcebooks, but man is parsing some of its rules (the Rifts system in general, actually) ridiculously confusing or obtuse... sometimes even straight-up unfinished. I had to browse obscure forums to read ancient posts in order to derive some clarity on what should have otherwise been basic mechanics. It kinda made me want to rewrite ATB with all the errata and rule clarifications built-in just so I could digest it all if I was ever going to actually play a game one day... maybe I still will.
@venom66656
@venom66656 8 дней назад
@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish I totally understand. I love Rifts and really all their games so much but it's so hard for me to recommend them to people. Do you know Mutants in the Now?
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish 7 дней назад
@@venom66656 I'm aware of it, but haven't gotten my hands on a good digital copy yet to take a closer look. Personally, I'm glad that someone out there is doing the work to revitalize these games in an updated system, but I'm also worried that what I like about them will be lost in translation. What do you think about MitN?
@marcbennett9232
@marcbennett9232 8 дней назад
Not sure where it fits in but there was also a very fun board game, gammarauders.
@simpleroleplay2136
@simpleroleplay2136 6 дней назад
They’re all many other games that are like this I hope you will covered them they a chronicle of darkness version. And I can’t remember it name but if I find it I post it up
@TheMeanActor
@TheMeanActor 8 дней назад
Really off topic but that outro sax music is pretty sweet
@gordonwiley2006
@gordonwiley2006 8 дней назад
Gammaworld fourth edition, not to be confused with D&D 4th edition's Gammaworld.
@n.henzler50
@n.henzler50 6 дней назад
I played that system once. A guy at the game store used it to run a homebrew version of Paranoia. It was good, deadly fun.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 8 дней назад
It is a wonderful day in Gamma World, it's time to make a horrible goose.
@almevo
@almevo 2 дня назад
Can you make a Hunther the reckonig 5e video ? i try to use your video for Hunter 5e but they made a lot of changes
@imperiallegionnaire8344
@imperiallegionnaire8344 8 дней назад
cool bird
@thethan302
@thethan302 8 дней назад
Wait, is that Captain Power on the cover? That totally looks like Captain Power… i just checked the internet, that is totally Captain Power.
@shiroamakusa8075
@shiroamakusa8075 8 дней назад
Also, nice to explain mechanics by referring to mechanics in another game system. I guess the writers thought any nerd who'd pick up this would have taken D&D as a en entry drug, huh?
@aralanstradivari2841
@aralanstradivari2841 9 дней назад
Honestly, these videos are pretty damn interesting, although I do wonder what you’d think of Eclipse Phase and Eclipse Phase 2e. Perhaps you could cover them ag some point (although, maybe you already did, and I just didn’t see it)
@jy3n2
@jy3n2 8 дней назад
The character creation process is fairly scary, but unlikely to be worse than FATAL.
@SkarmoryThePG
@SkarmoryThePG 8 дней назад
.... is it me or is duality like stupidly strong?
@zigmenthotep
@zigmenthotep 8 дней назад
Oh absolutely. They were toned down in third edition, but there have always been ridiculously overpowered and detrimental mutations. 2nd edition and earlier featured a mutation that would let you travel up to 250 years into the past or future. It was an exceedingly rare mutation, and traveling that far was very difficult, but still just a standard part of the rules.
@BasketOfPuppies642
@BasketOfPuppies642 8 дней назад
I like the duck's leather choker.
@Lazysupermutant
@Lazysupermutant 8 дней назад
Makes sense, long necked dudes and dudettes are asking to be decapitated. I'd go for a chainmail scarf or something, be a pain to draw though.
@Malcadon
@Malcadon 8 дней назад
Like a true butch mallard! 😎
@KyouTGD
@KyouTGD 8 дней назад
Why is the Use Artifacts Diagram the Tree of Life?
@WhiteOwl1061
@WhiteOwl1061 3 часа назад
Howard the Duck!
@artmanxp
@artmanxp 8 дней назад
wonder if your going to do travaller or cyberpunk next? mostly traveler as you can die during character creation
@Malcadon
@Malcadon 8 дней назад
Mind you, that was just 1st edition Travaller. Although, while I'm not a fan of Lifepath systems, Cyberpunk 2020 did it right by making it purely optional (it a guide, not a rule), and having a lot of great options with all the telenovela-like backstory of sex, tragedy, betrayal, and vengeance!
@artmanxp
@artmanxp 8 дней назад
​@@Malcadon they added a hard core mode for mongoose 2e
@sanshinobi3664
@sanshinobi3664 8 дней назад
Call me boring, but a pure-strained human what are actually been a nice subversion of expectations, if only to establish a baseline. After all, if everyone's a tiefling paladin, no one is.
@zigmenthotep
@zigmenthotep 7 дней назад
The way I see it, humanoid mutants are the baseline-as you said, when everyone's a wacky mutant, that becomes the norm. I mentioned it in one of the previous videos, but pure strain humans in gamma world are actually their own distinctive thing. Just a distinctive thing that involves ignoring a large chunk of the rules.
@jinxtheunluckypony
@jinxtheunluckypony 8 дней назад
I really don’t get why the rule book insists on referencing D&D.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 8 дней назад
It was presumably trying to appeal to TSR's existing customers. Insist that this game is easy to learn if you're familiar with D&D, switching systems for a campaign or two is fine, buy the book!
@davidecolucci6260
@davidecolucci6260 6 дней назад
Aren't ducks already bipedal? They walk on 2 legs
@zigmenthotep
@zigmenthotep 5 дней назад
Behold, a man! But the implication is an _upright_ bipedal stance. Birds are still very horizontal.
@davidecolucci6260
@davidecolucci6260 5 дней назад
@@zigmenthotep what abou penguins?
@zigmenthotep
@zigmenthotep 5 дней назад
@@davidecolucci6260 Penguins are just little guys. Allegations that they are birds is slanderous propaganda.
@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec
@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec 8 дней назад
After doing gamma world. One should check out The Mutant Epoch from Outland Arts.
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel 8 дней назад
Oh, yes! Very much this.
@gray1094
@gray1094 9 дней назад
Second
@gray1094
@gray1094 9 дней назад
and not sorry
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