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This happens every time they do this- market forces equalize the singles to the price of the supply, so the obvious Chase Cards take the lions' share of that value.
49:55 "I never would have guessed strixhaven was a set where..." Man prof, doing all these boxes has got you loopy, You've confused Streets of New Capenna with Strixhaven
49:54 and still opening Strixhaven? I thought that died on box 2 lol. but for real what a great run of New Capenna, you should go buy a lottery ticket!
@@coldtruth9431 bro I watch too much RU-vid for all that. If you've been watching videos on this set since before prerelease, you've likely saw it too.
@@coldtruth9431 how is that even a response? People are fucking strange man. If I could remember I'd link ever video but I can't. So either you've heard it too or you havent.
I’m glad it’s not just me who thought something felt off with New Capenna foils. Compared to NEO kamigawa, my full art lands foils for example popped real well.I figured something went wrong because of the nature of the gilded foils being made as well?
@@theindyjt Bottom and backside of boxes states where printed: USA, Belgium or Japan. Underneath the fold on boosters. For my location Western Canada our pre-release packs tend to be from Japan so you get all excited by flatness, brightness, sparkle etc. and then you open a few US packs and the excitement immediately disappears.
I don’t entirely subscribe to the “packs are for draft” mentality. Usually every set I don’t look at any spoilers, then buy a set booster box at prerelease. Just because I like cracking packs! It’s fun, and it’s usually my first time seeing all of the cards. I get a bunch of cool cards, and use those to determine what decks I wanna build and THEN buy singles to fill them out.
I do something similar, but I won't lie, it's still disappointing to open a box and get nothing worth more than a couple bucks even if value wasn't the main consideration. Thankfully that's been the exception rather than the rule for me personally though.
Obviously Set Boosters are not for draft. Still, on average even with your method you're left with a looooot of cards you'll never use. It's magnitudes less efficient than buying singles. Unless you value the experience of opening packs itself, which you seem to do, and it's perfectly fine and Prof has said so multiple times. It's just not the most rational way of getting the cards you need.
I think people also forget that there are people who are fairly new to mtg (coming up a year of playing for me), and don't have the boxes and boxes of bulk to easily fill out decks. I'm starting to get to the point where I'm happy with my bulk, but I like building it up 🙂
I think the new "Gilded" cards are really aptly named since the majority of the alternate artwork cards are designed to look valuable but are so common they are sometimes worse less than the non alternate cards.
the "gilded" cards are the ones with actual chrome gold raised accents on them, and look stunning. the showcase frames are the same as the gilded ones, but without that accent. the gilded ones look seriously amazing and I want to actually get the gilded versions of many of the cards I'm after, after pulling a bunch from collector boosters. they are exactly the sort of "premium style" alternate cards I want more of from wotc, not the ABSOLUTE TRASH etched foils that they've been pushing the last few sets(besides the commander legends ones, those etched foils were excellent).
Very true. But for the less inclined to collectors out there, we get to play with some sick looking cards! The value in the set sorta flopped, but as long as the cards themselves are good and can play, I'm fine!
@@williamfike1445 that super sucks. did you try reaching out to wotc about it? I got a secret lair with a damaged Counterspell in it once and they sent me a replacement. dunno if they would for you, but if you include pictures, they might!
So Wizards can't seem to make bright foils without curving. With that, I'll take this slight-foiling and the bonus of having cards that can be played without needing to research humification techniques.
Box 2, pack 6, you pulled a Ziatora's Proving Ground but didn't add the value to the total. You only added the Blood moon to the total from that pack. Timestamp @16:08 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VU87uFoFygY.html
Going forward, I'd personally like to see a brief slide with the actual set total with any List cards removed, displayed at the end of each box opening with a break down of what came from the set and what didn't so people can better gauge the actual EV of a given box. Those first 2 boxes were saved by the list cards, and without them, you wouldn't have gone to the next box either time. I know it's extra work, but I feel like it would be well received by the viewers. Just my 2 mana.
I also wouldn't mind it being pointed out when just about any "lottery ticket" card spikes the value of the box on its own. Box 3 was also saved by a single card's value in that borderless foil.
yeah i was very disappointed when i saw box 1 barely crack the 110 and $40 of that was Diving Top. As I already own one, no motivation to pick up a box of these. Ill grab some singles and save myself $75
List, Lands, and a few others (Bootleggers, Luxior, and Ob as well as some of the extended art/special frames) hold value. The rest is just bulk rare/mythic cards as in almost every other standard set.
5:35 It's funny, I also thought the foils were subdued this set on the USA printed cards, but I did appreciate when I got a bundle that the 20 foil lands weren't a snack stack of Pringles that even sleeved and face down could be reliably identified as foils by their curvature.
Gotta love how it is just "Did you get Top and an Ob?" or bust I wonder if the foils you got were made on the Etched paper on accident since those tend to be more muted and the etching is what makes them pop.
It seems like the good/new land cards are frequently the top cards in any given set. I guess that’s better than having busted chase-rares, but I do wish good mana-bases weren’t so expensive…
The good thing here is that as they keep printing good lands, there will eventually be enough of them that at least a B-tier mana base could be affordable. Hopefully.
With regards to the quality and foils. Would be interesting to see you open up a Booster box from the Cartamundi Belgium factory. The quality definitely seems to be better. Could do a comparison video of the two boxes.
@@SafePondDemon @ me who just wants all 3 Eldrazi Titans for my own satisfaction, got a box of Eldritch moon yesterday and no Emrakul 😭 I did get Tree of Perdition tho so that's something at least
I still remember saving up for a box of Aether Revolt, and how disappointed I was when it turned out like that last box. I got $30 of value tops. Lesson? BUY SINGLES!
Love watching your box game videos! Super jealous of all the sensei's divining tops since I have a ninja deck and it's a pricey card. Also I agree with you on those foils. Had a hard time while sorting my collection and saw a stark contrast between foils from last set to this one. They seem a little dull/thin for the foil coating
Wow, the list slot did a lot of heavy lifting here! Have they juiced it up this time around? Could you imagine if these were draft boxes? They'd all be like that last box😬
agreed, i think it's unfortunate how badly this set has turned out value wise because I think the concept is pretty cool but just done badly a bit like ixalan/rox when they first came out...
@@tae9752 The potency of the list, the triomes, and the fun of ots legendary creatures as Commannders will carry this set very in regard to sales I think.
This set was extremely fun in sealed, and I love the flavor and art. The value outside of the lands and a couple other cards is terrible though. Fun is what I play for though, so I'm a fan of this set.
Last box was pretty much what mine was. It was still fun though since I can make use of all the cards since I am just now getting into the game. The kids and I can have fun, even with the unwanted cards!
I've given up on the idea of getting any real value from my booster boxes and use them now purely as inspiration to build or upgrade existing decks. Although I did have extraordinary luck with New Capenna versus Kamigawa
Of the 150 packs opened, 37 of them had List cards which is about 25%. This is the rate advertised by Wizards but it doesn’t hurt to double check it. Ever since my first set of List card were hitters such as Glimmermoth, Dungeon Shade and Fomori Nomad I’ve been skeptical of it, but I think the Universes Within cards have helped a lot in making The List more interesting. How do people feel about The List for New Capenna or just generally?
Your first box was eerily similar to my box. Excepting the List slots, of course. In my case, I only got one actual List card; the rest were the Friends Forever reprints.
Prof: "What I've done to deserve these flat flavorless foils!?" *kisses Gavin on the lips before stalking off.* Gavin: "The kiss of death, that's all I need!"
I mostly get booster packs for the fun of it with a slight hope to get the cards I want. But, I'm still in the stage of edh where I'm wanting to build more decks and having a diversity of cards just helps me in finding new strategies.
It may be a weird comment but I just want to say a massive thanks for the way you speak in your videos. Mouth always visible, you form your words extremely clearly, and your pacing is great. As a severely hard of hearing person, your videos are my go-tos for my MtG content. Thanks
Professor, as an idea you might could think about, you should include the "soundtrack" music from MTG for the various sets when you open the boosters. I don't know the dynamics of how that works, but they release it all on their channel and a lot of it is really, really good! They have full instrumental versions, etc. and the last two soundtracks have had some solid bops, as the kids say.
It happens..... I really like the look of this set. I just bought some singles, but I am still awaiting my preorder. I don't want to splurge on anything without at least seeing what I pulled first.
I don't have the data to back this up... But it sure feels like we've never seen a set with such a large disparity between the set boosters EV and the draft boosters EV.
It's called "conditioning" and it's only going to get worse. Until one product line gets totally cut off. and i can garauntee it won't be the product that has more packs and sells for less...
I actually really like this set. Some buddies and I are getting into magic and wanna get a box for some drafts and too add to new players collection, this might be the one! Ty for playin prof, pulled my planeswalker first box;)
I think maybe they're using a different foiling process to try to address the pringle foil problem. The foils from New Capenna seem to be less curvy to me. Foils curve because the paper expands or contracts based on humidity, but the plastic foiling on the front of the card does not. If they're using a different material for the foiling that maybe isn't as pretty, but doesn't curl as badly that might be a tradeoff that I'm willing to take.
To elaborate, I have some foils from draft boosters (the ones that came in my pre-release packs and as rewards for playing pre-release). The gilded ones are fine (hat include the promos) as far as curvature but while the gilding is shiny the rest of the foiling is lackluster. Then the non-gilded foils are super shiny but they're curved. (Interestingly curved in the opposite direction that foils normally curve.) But all my foils from set boosters are lackluster in the shininess of the foils (though some still look really nice if not overly bright) but they are just as flat as the rest of the cards and show no signs of curve.
Loving the new jacket! At least this is the first time I remember seeing it. I'm only at the sponsor, but my fingers are crossed you get to have fun ^_^
Yeah the list is really where it's at with this set, everything else but singles haha. I got two boxes and pulled anointed procession, vampiric tutor, and exquisite blood
I use a box or 2 for coming up with deck ideas. I end up using quite a few cards I pull, so I'm not too worried about the lost money. But once I got deck ideas, I get singles to fill out the rest of my decks
Seems like they helped the curling problem by using a heavier foil, but they have far less luster. I've been able to leave these foils out unsleeved without any curling
I will say that opening 5 boxes effectively for the price of one is definitely a win for you. They're are a lot of good cards cheaply priced because it was pretty heavily opened (based on convos with my LGS), so you have plenty of great cards under 2 dollars.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege it's definitely more fun to watch you chain boxes together. that being said... BUY SINGLES!!! lol thanks for all the good videos and good vibes prof.
nice pulls, behold the power of the blood moon, though its noticeable that majority of the value comes from the list pulls which doesn't come from the base set, the only ones from the set with good value over time are the tri-color lands that complete the triomes/tri-cycle set.
@@lordnicenstein5105 This is true, however, I'm used to watching videos that go on for a long time and I just found this channel the other day, so it actually caught me by surprise and was a great laugh for me.
it's so sucky that the foils in the last set were like REALLY foily and bright and then we get to this set and they're dull and just kind of... meh? WotC must be on overdrive and using different printers from set to set with the inconsistency we've had which is just so terrible especially when you consider how they're raising prices while quality control remains at perhaps an all time low. we either get and incredible product that looks and feels great or we get cards that are clearly not up to par with card game standards. that being said, always enjoy these videos regardless of the set or issues or whatever the heck is going on in magic or the world.
@@Kyagrez looking back it appears I was incorrect in most cases. The card at 7:20 is the one that I first noticed and that appears to be a regular Showcase foil but most of the other ones were correct. Thanks for keeping me honest 😀
Professor! Hey, I too have noticed the dull nature of foils from the New Capenna set. I would like to note however, that sleeves seem to improve their sheen somewhat,
I split a box with somebody and got a Bootleggers' Stash, a showcase tri land, and a halo fountain. So I'm pleased, lots of cards though have tons of text on them. Still kind of new to the game again, but some cards were just ridicilous in how much text was used to explain its effect.
I bought a booster box with the oversized die and 8 packs. I pulled a Ziatora, the Incinerator guilded foil on my first pack. Craziest pull of my life. market price of $68.58
