Let's SAVE Infinite! (Sonic Forces Sequel Story - Gameplay) 

Part 2 is finally out! Part 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u6ijHupHghg.html Previous Pinned Post: For the Species selection portion, I forgot thay Echidnas were wiped out aside from Knuckles. But honestly, if DB Xenoverse can have a "Freiza" race (a race named after the character who's the only one in the main universe to exist), I don't think there's an issue having Echidna Custom Characters appear in this spin-off.

Sonic Forces their fans to make his games better.

“-and driving, things that don’t require much attention.” That worries me.

The Metal species is the one of the greatest ideas I have ever heard as someone whose favorite character is Metal Sonic.

Here’s an idea about the escort missions. Certain NPCs may act differently to make the missions harder. For example: - A bigger character would be slower than your character and cannot jump as high - An explorer character may look at every nook and cranny, not all of which are safe - An impatience character would move on ahead and would start a fight with enemies - A business-based character could put you on a time limit - A Chao enthusiast would get you to save all Chao before you can complete the level - A robot hater would get you to defeat every enemy before you can complete the level. Just an idea

Suggestions: naming your avatars: a good way to identify yourself in that online place. Ideas for wispons: Eagle: Based off a crossbow Quake: Some kind of Nunchuck-Whip combination Lazer: A lazer gun Rocket: A dual sided rocket launcher (attaches self to rocket for special move) Bomb: Grenade Launcher

>Mentioning Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

For the Species selection portion, I forgot thay Echidnas were wiped out aside from Knuckles. But honestly, if DB Xenoverse can have a "Freiza" race (a race named after the character who's the only one in the main universe to exist), I don't think there's an issue having Echidna Custom Characters appear in this spin-off.

I ... would play this... can't wait to see the story you got in Store!

I have a few more species ideas! :3 (Use these if your making a DLC what if for this) Weasel: Allows you to do a charged jump if you hold down the jump button. Bee: Allows you to sting enemies with your pointy butt. Your jumps are also floaty too. Flying Squirrel: 2 words: Cape Mario. Your basically cape Mario from Super Mario World. Chao: Allows you to fly around in the air. Flicky: choose another species, and you have the same powers as the original species except you have loftier jumps, squeeze through tight spaces, and you can possess robots. Werehog: choose another species, and you have the same powers as the original species, except you can do combos and destroy things. Chaos: Depending on how many rings you currently have, the stronger/weaker Chaos will grow/shrink. Jackal: You can wall jump

You are an actual *GENUIS*, i hope the Sonic channel sees this vid and actually does something with this amazing story

Other Species Ideas: -Dragon: A burst of flames occurs when you hit a enemy with the grappling hook, and you have a higher jump. -Doll (To match the Metal species): You can hover over a gap for a short period of time. -Motobug: You can go faster, but you slide when stopping.

This actually sounds like a really good Sonic game! Sega should just hire you to map out the story and gameplay of Sonic games. I would seriously buy Sonic Forces if they redid the game in your version of it. Maybe something like "Sonic Forces: Redux".

Some ideas for Side Missions: -Get through a level without destroying a single enemy -Get through a level without touching the ground -Race Infinite through a level (Incorporate the Phantom Ruby somehow) -Don't die -Stay on a certain route through the level - Get through a level without using any wisps

This is genius, especially for a Sonic spin-off! Can’t wait to see how the story goes!

Reading the unreasonable fanfic based on unreasonable interactive fanfic.. OH, BOY! WHERE DO I START!

Metal type is broken........ This is fun! Its gonna be a hard journey to find our friend.

I'm like forever and a day late, but I just finished your other Forces rewrite and I'm grabbing my popcorn, excited to watch the sequel! Sometimes the fan versions are INFINITEly better than the original.

you would make a great game designer for Sega. They should hire you.

Group of three avatars running through a level. Avatar 1: Why is this robot following us?

Honestly, you should work with SEGA. You know how to make a good storyline and game levels. It's just my opinion but I don't know what others might think. Btw, You really did fix Infinite. A lot!

I know one mission should happen. Don't get seen by the enemies

The Added Character Customization Stuff is fantastic, I love the metal species.

Haven't watched it yet, but here have a like.

Oh my....These ideas.....are amazing....^^ I respect you Dylan my man!

ok i am so sorry to go wild in the comments section here but this video is so great!!!!!! i loved it so much!!! and i cannot wait for the next one!!! some more specific stuff / thoughts i had while watching this were: maybe for the NPCs have a sort of similar thing going on to Miitopia, where you could use other people's miis downloaded off the internet as well as making your own and setting their roles? i think it would be really fun to have the ability to make characters and put them in a variety of NPC roles! ofc this is all just a theoretical game, but i just thought that that would be a cool idea to add in the theoretical universe where this game did get made! also, coincidentally, Explorers of Sky is my #1 favorite game of all time and DQIX is my #2! I thought it was really funny that they both got mentioned in this video, especially bc DQIX doesn't get talked about very much (at least that i see lol). the metal characters also are a really amazing idea! i liked this video a lot and cant wait to see the next ones! thank you so much for putting so much effort into making these, they're really cool!!!!

I wrote an actual FanFiction that seems pretty similar to this. Infinite obtains the original Phantom Ruby from Mania, making him stupidly powerful, but before he can actually do anything with it, it's stolen from him by a new, even more mentally insane villain. Infinite, left without anything but his old sword and his skills as a mercenary, is forced to join forces with the Avatar and the rest of the heroes, with the clearly stated intention of getting the Ruby back for himself and nothing else. Throughout the game, the heroes try to convince him that he can be a hero himself, that he doesn't need the Ruby, but in the end, he still chooses the path of destruction, leading to a heartfelt moment where the Avatar finally has to admit that Infinite does not want to be saved. The game itself would've hypothetically been somewhat in the style of a world conquest tactical RPG, but still with its levels playing like a Sonic game.

This is really cool so far! I had some ideas for extra missions I thought I’d share (they’re all Resistance related, hope you don’t mind): -A Resistance Commander who is seeking assistance in clearing out an area in the levels, or assistance other Resistance soldiers in the area. They would generally be the Resistance trooper that would give you the least amount of missions. Instead, they would direct you to whoever needs help, as they would act as the leader of a Resistance squad in a hub. Each hub would have a different squad with completely new characters, allowing for more visualization of the regular Resistance foot soldier than what we got in Forces. -A Resistance scout would accompany you and your team while you head to the goal, providing an extra gun. The reasons would vary, but most would involve something about a search for Eggmans remaining army and just general Resistance cleanup. -A scientist from the Resistance might ask the player to collect a certain number of Prototype Shards or any other mystic object and bring it to them for analysis. -A Resistance Saboteur could ask for assistance placing weapons throughout the levels as to stop the assault of any Eggman robots, or placing explosives on Eggman technology (examples include deactivated Death Egg Sentinels, those huge Crab robots, or just generally small Eggman fortifications). -A Resistance Sharpshooter would ask for assistance in clearing out robots in the entire level, acting more or less like a scout, but based on combat instead of reaching the goal. -And the last one I could think of is a Resistance Engineer/Medic. They act similar, but they’re missions have slight variations. They would both act as escort missions, but the Engineer would pick up tools, gears, screws, scrap metal and such on the way to a downed Resistance ship or some other Resistance tech, while the Medic would rush to get to where he was needed faster. The engineer would be quick to work on repairs while the medic would need to be protected while tending to wounded soldiers and civilians. The repairs would be shorter than the healing, but to compensate, the engineers search would be longer than the medics dash for a Resistance outpost or fort, or somewhere else where people need help. I know these are all Resistance related, but I feel as though these missions could help the player see what the Resistance REALLY was. We didn’t get much of that in Forces, which I think is a shame. We all know what Eggmans army is like, but we barely got to truly know the Resistance, and I also think this could help show how they personally were affected by the war, things like how Green Hill fell, like how Knuckles mentioned in the cutscene before the avatar, Sonic falling in battle and being captured, Operation Big Wave, and even the Final Battle at Eggmans Imperial Tower. Maybe some dialogue criticizing Knuckles and Operation Big Wave, or talk about the big war heroes besides Sonic like Silver and Amy, or maybe even some soldiers would be Sonic fans themselves, or maybe the dialogue could be the soldiers talking about the hub as their home, saying what they think of it and how it was involved in Eggmans war, if it was. Just give more personality to the Resistance, make them feel like an army of people who fight for a common cause: freedom from the tyranny of Eggman. To show that the Resistance truly unified the world, maybe some would have an accent, some would have certain characteristics, maybe have some shy soldiers, confident ones, even just regular people in the middle

I'm kind of laughing about the "NPCs with Phantom Shards" because I just created a Scorpion Oc who finds one and refuses to hand it over to the Resistance because they lost limbs to that thing and they feel like they deserve it more XD Excellent writing and ideas man! Keep up the good work!

I love you for mentioning DQIX

"Were writing a fan fiction" That sounds like it would take more brainpower than 2 of me put together, i use exactly 0% of my brain

This has a lot of promising ideas that is featured and it makes me upset that us the fans can think of more creative things than sega can, but I do have a few ideas I want to share if you don’t mind. The first big thing is you mentioned escort missions, well escort missions to behave similarly to a recent yoshi game that came out, yoshi’s crafted world, where in that game once you beat the level you have the option to go through again in a time attack and the entire level is flipped so you have to do it all in reverse. So this game could do something similar, let you start at the end or the middle with the escort and go to the goal. Another idea pertaining to gameplay is similar to the tag team stages in generations and forces, I mean with characters from the sonic series occasionally asking for help in a certain level and you get to travel along with them. They would help defeat enemies blocking you path and really easy missions could contain characters who aren’t very strong like cream or charmy, and hard missions could help you be joined by the man himself sonic. Finally, I feel like you go all out when it comes to customization, like if you want a male bat wearing a skirt, you got it. A female wolf in a male’s business suit, you got it. A female anything not wearing that strange suit when nothing else is equipped in forces? Strange but ok. Just go absolutely nuts, and just to add icing to the already iced cake, name you character anything, like hamburger, big’s cousin, fake fan. Again go nuts. Add more variety of enemies that are vastly different from each other and you might have an actual game on your hands.

Allright, now I just need to find out which person I have to pay to play "Avatar adventure: Aftermath"

When you 100% it you unlock.... SILVER THE HEDGEHOG! Same as he was in 06 but less glitchy and possibly a boost like sonic and shadow Or if you 100% it you get sonic,shadow and silver or they can be dlc dylan if you wanna kniw more im in your discord server so i can dm you about it

Can't wait to see where this story goes! My guess is that the Avatar will be journeying to save Infinite, who continues to evade them. During his own travels(which consistently crosses with the Avatar's), Infinite is attempting to find answers about his own origins.

I love these lets fix series. Also is it just me or does the idea sound similar to something else. Trump: Make America great again Dylan: make Sonic Team great again

I’m super exited!!!!!! I’m lovin this :D

So I know I’m a week late but I still wanted to throw my two cents in. Just a few random escort missions I came up with. You could encounter a Moneybags-esc character that you have to escort in order to receive prototype shards or possibly since he would be such a pain to deal with a wispon upgrade. He would collect and keep every single ring in the level except the first 2-10 you collect dependent on which character you run into and how greedy they are. This obviously would make it incredibly hard to stay alive since it would be very easy to get hit, lose your rings, not be able to collect all of them/ not be able to collect them at all, and die having to restart the mission. And some of the more greedy ones could take longer to catch up because they’re “taking their time” making you waste time while waiting for them. Another idea is a thing that would take place in the hub worlds, obviously everything is in ruin and clean up is taking place. Well, you could give up some rings to the townspeople to help speed up the clean up and rebuilding of broken buildings, and in return you could receive prototype shards or any goodies that might have been hidden in the wreckage, like a forgotten and abandoned wispon. Another escort mission could be to take a scholar through, but because it’s in their nature to learn and explore they could end up trying to get into some things they probably shouldn’t mess with. Or you have to kill an enemy a certain way so the scholar can look inside and figure out how it’s systems work. Another idea is a search and rescue idea. You have to carefully comb hazardous wreckage to find a missing person. You have a limited amount of time to do this before the wreckage collapses and you have to be extremely careful to not cause it to collapse early and bury both you and the missing person. This could include not being able to use your wispon, not being able to tether with the grappling hook, or not being able to run and instead having to take a steady stroll like speed. One last idea is to have to run through a stage and get to a back up generator somewhere in the stage because the town that is in the hub world has lost power. That’s all for now

Someone should make this an actual game! Also... If Chaos Emeralds are involved then you should be able to unlock a sorta costumisable super form (like changing the color and hair) 100% completion bonus should be that you unlock hyper form which OBVIOUSLY is O.P. and is also costumisable like the super form. Also 2-player modes should be a thing, like, being able to finish levels together, or fight each other, like different modes and things; it should also be online and local multiplayer. There should also be an unlockable Sonic that can pick up any wisp and use only the special ability for the wisp (like Sonic colors) and he would have (basically the drill wisp but more like a spindash for) a spindash, and he would also have the boost and maybe some other abilities. There should also be the laser wisp and it could shoot lasers (duh) and the special ability would be basically like the normal attack except you shoot yourself! The frenzy wisp from Sonic colors should be a more close combat type of wisp-on but it wouldn't be U.P. and the special ability would be teleporting to enemies and slicing them up! Sorry that I put so many thing! I'm thinking too much! The job I want is to make games, I would've been making this game right now, but, I don't reeally know how to.

I can’t tell you how excited I am! I think you’re a fantastic writer.

I freakin love this content, man! Keep up the awesome work!

What if someone took all of his ideas and actually made them a game, that would be amazing.

"Leave my hypothetical wallet alone, Sega." - Garrulous64

Found this video AFTER finding and watching the two story parts and the Sonic Forces re-write. This whole series is worth the listen.

I think it would be interesting if Dr eggman was looking for the classic phantom ruby and getting infinite to join you held more than just a story purpose, as he could clear out the classic phantom Ruby’s illusions.

And last but not least, the Laser wispon; which is basically the Sonic version of a lightsaber, but it's special is the Giga beam from Sonic adventure 2.

I was thinking about the species that you could choose and I thought possibly as a kind of side (or special) mission that you could gain a new species (namely Infinite's species: Jackal). Also, that you could somehow (kind of like a dlc skin or something) make your character a wolf form (like Sonic Unleashed). Then on a plus side, get a phantom Ruby ability (if you get a special jackal on a specific mission, obviously harder than other levels). That's all I can think of right now.

How does this dude make better sonic stories than sonic team themself He even made room for a sequel Sega should hire this man

I REALLY dig this gameplay concept you got for the game, kinda reminds me of a few ideas I had for Forces where I tried to focus more on the Avatar itself and more expansive levels. If I may add some of my ideas to this, I'd have to say the old wispons should get reworked to better fit the new gameplay and generally to make some of them not feel like worse versions of the other ones(e.g. the cube wispon who previously only had the ability to trap enemy into giant cubes can now have those knocked around when you're close to them, destroying stuff that's in the way). Gotta go see part 2 now.

awesome ideas again you never cease to amaze me also what if if you 100% the game you get to play as infinite

All Nine Wispon abilities!? Enemies: "This is gonna hurt!"

I love this, let’s do parts 2 and 3

Considering what happened last i think the avatar is still out looking for infinite but when they do find him he may still have a messed up memory

YES. I was so hoping for a part two!

2:12 "Avatar Adventure Aftermath" Me: Alliteration is awesome. I love the name, but I had to steal a Studio C quote for this.

Somebody who knows how to make games DM this man and start working together to make this a reality. This would be awesome to play. I would actually pay money to play this.

Dylan makes fanfics. And people actually enjoy it

This is a great concept! I can't wait to see the next video about this!

i had the idea of a game where you collect a large amount of characters to join the resistance, referencing the archie comics, with them all playing differently, and each level ends with a boss of a roboticized version of the character.

Side Mission Ideas >Collect X rings in X level >Time Attacks >Find a hidden Chao somewhere in the level (a la SA2) - May usually be given by Cream, results in clothes. >Use X Wisp Ability on X enemies in one level. >Find the hidden icon in [level]! (Usually a symbol of the old rebellion marking where old caches and stores were. They're being collected as they aren't needed anymore.)

I've been wanting something like this thank you

Honestly, I'd replace two wisps, Void and Rhythm, with Rocket and Laser. Laser would be weapon that dealt less damage the longer you held down the button, pierces through enemies, and bounces off of walls, allowing for unconventional attack angles (wisp power would be like in Colors). Rocket would just be a straight up homing missile with a big explosion, yet high cooldown between shots so you couldn't just spam the thing and win (wisp power would increase the power of your wire attack, creating big explosions if it hits something head on).

The extra missions could be: - Cleanup: Get trough the stage destroying a certain number of badniks - Rescue: Like the one in Forces, but there are at least 4 avatars to rescue - Protect: Escort a charater through a stage, without letting him die (duh) - Raid: The remnants of the ruby would spawn a random boss from the Uncolorations games, but weaker, and you'd have to defeat it. - Detective: Find a certain item in the hub

I really love your new content.

How sega would make the game if they could: -Automate almost everything. -Make the levels similar to sonic adventure, but make them as linear and short as sonic forces. -2D sections galore. -Make the hub worlds large and empty, only able to access the hub's levels by talking to the 1 npc in the entire hub. -Shove green hill and classic sonic in the game for "nostalgia" sake. -The "collectables" give you nothing for collecting them all. -Make the rhythm and spike wispon paid DLC. -False advertise old enemies comming back, yet never use them in game, only for one or two cutscenes. Jokes aside, i like how you made the gameplay work in this video. I would love to see something like this in an actuall game. Looking forward to your story video!

Sonic forces you to turn trash to gold Edit: My god the metal race is the most creative thing I have ever heard in these sort of things and by lord above I love it!

YESSS you continued this beautiful story. I so wish these games were real

This is awesome! Can't wait for the next part!

Yes yes yes a sequel of sonic forces I love the gameplay especially I would love the metal species because it reminds me of metal sonic

I loved the rewrite and I’m excited to see where this takes us! * squeals in excitement*

Amazing how the fans of a series can develop better gameplay than actually experienced game developers. Can't wait to watch the story! Yes, I already know it's out, but seeing all of these ideas for gameplay makes me really wonder how the story will turn out.

Escort mission:you'd begin the stage by jumping of a helicopter and doing those sky-dive things from unleashed,then the NPC that gave you the mission would say:"a group of chaos has been located,so you better hurry up and find them!".There would be 10 chaos to find,and they would be scaterd all over the stage.After finding all the chao,the NPC would say:"great,now get back to the helicopter".Then more enemies would appear,making the stage harder.You'd get 50 rings (and maybe 1 ruby) after beating the stage.

So, for Hub Worlds, will we be forced to explore them all the time to talk to NPCs and get to levels like Unleashed, or will we be able to pull up a sub-menu akin to Unleashed Wii's version of the Hubs to talk to NPCs, access levels, and do side missions. There are a lot of people who aren't a big fan of Hub Worlds, and Hub Worlds in Sonic games always felt like padding to me. I just think having options is important, and quick menuing is something that a lot of games with Hub Worlds seem to miss. Overall, this video is great, and clearly has a lot of thought put into it. Can't wait for what's up next!

Awesome ideas!! Looking forward to part 2 and 3!

"And driving ya know things that don't require much attention" RU-vidr killed in a car accident

your story for infinite sounds awesome

Why!? Why is this so freaking good! Best you believe I would make music for ya if this came to be! :D

I would love it if there were also new Wispon based on the Hawk and Asteroid Wisps from Lost World. Hawk could function like the balloons from Generations, a homing attack that keeps your momentum with the special being like a short modern Sonic like boost. Asteroid would shoot out small grenade projectiles that suck in enemies and then explode (think Astro Man's weapon from Mega Man 9) while the special could be a combination of Asteroid and Frenzy Wisp's abilities - a short invincibility period where you mow down everything in your path.

The Metal species combined with New Game Plus sounds way past cool

An idea for side missions. You would enter a building (in the hub) and see OCs designed by sonic devs, and talking to one would reveal who they are and give you a mini-level where you would play in one of the areas of other sonic games

A bit late on this but I thought of a interesting idea for a potential side mission. How about the idea of having to go through a challenge stage that requires you to not use your Wispon or Wire attack. This will require the player to have to rely on platforming skills to avoid obstacles and enemies. It could also be a good way to help bring back the wall jump considering the last time it was used in a main series game was Sonic Lost World (no I'm not counting forces because you could only use it in one level) P.S. loved the vid! You did an amazing job and I can't wait for part 2

I like the way this channel is going

Sonic fans are talented, I wouldn’t doubt that there would at least be an effort to make this an actual fan game

I get this is like an Ideas and predictions sort of thing, but I feel so teased, I want this to be a thing now!

I hope this becomes real. You have such good ideas.

Maybe including a bonus "Sonic" mode in the game that can be unlocked when achieving 100% completion. This mode will allow you to play as Sonic himself, with him playing like a better Sonic from Forces, boost and everything.

A community should produce that game-

Personally I can’t think of any specific outcome for the story because even with the rewrite there’s so many different ways this could go. That being said, super excited to see what you come up with. In regards to missions, imo Sonic and the Secret Rings comes to mind. The missions were very expansive in regards to content and quite unique too. There could be missions in Avatar Aftermath like collecting a certain number of Wispon power ups, defeating a certain type of enemy, or maybe even completing a level but forced to pass various “checkpoints” before doing so, aka being forced to take a certain route.

I kinda wish I had this idea when this video released but I feel like if you were to either beat new game+ or 100% the game, you unlock a Wispon which works near identically to Whisper’s Wispon which lets you not only use all the Wisp abilities in the game but you also get a few new abilities like using the Spikes Wisp to create a buzzsaw that can break badniks and scale walls for example (yes I got the Spikes idea from SRB2’s Whisper addon)

This sounds really interesting!

1:47 Leave my hypothetical wallet alone SEGA. Am I seriously the only one who laughed at that?

I think I have an idea to expand upon the Prototype Fragments. Instead of getting Fragments by replaying side missions, you get Phantom *Tokens.* They still have the upgrade capabilities, but don't count as a Fragment (Think the "Blue Stars" from Mario 64.). This was, you can get *every fragment* from doing new/incomplete quests, and when you get all of them, you can get a secret ending, boss, or something else along those lines. Heck, maybe even a Transformation! Maybe something like "Phantom Avatar", I dunno.

WWWOOOOO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSSSS

Imagine how cool it could’ve been if the Custom Hero had some Chao garden elements. Maybe enemies dropped phantom drives when destroyed and collecting them allows you to rank up different aspects about your character.

Watching through this again, I’m a bit surprised you didn’t opt to include the Cyan Wisp. I imagine it’d function very simple, just firing small beams that do moderate damage, but they could bounce off of walls to let you pull off cool bank shots on enemies or shoot around corners. For a special it could just fire a giant laser that could cut through large groups easily. Simple, but effective, and fun to boot.

IDW Sonic Comics didn't mentioned Infinite throughout the Issues so far but this on the other hand might still work.

*BIG YES*

I think the reason why there wasn’t an echidna race option in Forces was because all of the echidnas were wiped out, so Knuckles was the soul survivor of his race.

Avatar Adventure Aftermath Plus And Knuckles Featuring Dante from the "Devil may cry" series *Brand new Sonic mode*

The two wispon ideas sound awesome and fun to play. I actually have ideas for more wispons. Lazer - The main attack would be a lightsaber like sword, perfect weapon for melee attacks and can take out enemies quickly. Down side being it sucks at long range attacks and large groups. It's special ability is basically Sonic's boost. Problem is that rings or enemies won't replenish it. Bomb - A grenade-like launcher that fires bombs (shocker) that can take out large groups of enemies with an explosion (another shocker). It can be shot at a rapid pace. It's special ability could be a screen nuke that can take out all enemies on screen. Frenzy - A claw-like device that, when holding down the attack button, can chomp and move forward and can take out enemies with one attack (think of it like when it was in Sonic Colors). It's special ability is with every enemy you defeat in frenzy mode it wispon could become larger, making it easier to defeat enemies. Regular wisp - Think of the ones you see npcs with in cutscenes. It can either be the wispon you have in the first level or can be unlocked for players who want an extra challenge. That's all I have for now. I might add more later. Love this video though, however I don't like the fact that you added echidna to the species list because isn't Knuckles the last of his kind? Still love these rewrites though.