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@verybarebones
@verybarebones Год назад
The dynamic of "saying kawaii is appropriation" vs "saying cutecore is whitewashing" is wild tho
@Rain-pe7ql
@Rain-pe7ql Год назад
At this point I just use both and everyone hates me lmao
@mel4346
@mel4346 Год назад
@@Rain-pe7ql it’s kawai
@IamJenJen101
@IamJenJen101 Год назад
Shouldn't you put the saying part outside the quotes to read saying "kawaii is appropriation" Or am I missing something?
@fishfrfr
@fishfrfr Год назад
i use both as on pinterest and etc kawaii and cutecore mean slightly different images and aesthetic
@mel4346
@mel4346 Год назад
@@fishfrfr no shut the hell up cutecore is just the whitewashed version of kawai
@Kittenheelxoxo
@Kittenheelxoxo Год назад
As someone who wears a lot of girls clothes because of having a small frame and liking the style, it really sickens me how people can sexualize it. People will simultaneously mistake me for not being an adult and sexualize me. It’s can feel really weird and unsafe at times, but for me it’s just a style. I like the cute designs and they fit me well, they also tend to be less expensive. It would be best if the style was renamed a different way so people could connect over the clothes and not have to be exposed to kink/nsfw stuff.
@skeletonhands01
@skeletonhands01 Год назад
Or they have to treat my style as if I’m Bell Delphine, it’s fucking weird
@bimbozos
@bimbozos Год назад
same here. although i am kinda tall for a femme-presenting person, i can fit into childrens clothing. i’m a runner, so my overall frame is naturally small. i had someone who was my age, 22, hit on me WHILE assuming i was underaged. when i told him my age, he seemed disappointed 😅 in all seriousness, i wanted to puke on his shoes.
@silent-hills
@silent-hills Год назад
Same!! It slays so uncomfortable, especially when adult men hit on you and get DISAPPOINTED when they find out I’m not underage. 😐 absolutely disgusting.
@rhonaldneitzel2410
@rhonaldneitzel2410 Год назад
There’s the thing, in the video she explained there are so many style names that you just have to do your research on but in the end just be you whatever you might call it
@Puuuurrrr
@Puuuurrrr Год назад
Wouldn't matter how many times you change the name, terms or even if you develop a whole new language to identify the style and culture, as long as women are involved anything that we don will inevitably be sexualized. Just wear it proudly and correct the misconceptions that people impose onto you. Make them feel weird for the way they think and don't back down.
@scenemime
@scenemime Год назад
I think that as jojifuku is often adults attempting to look like children it becomes problematic, compared to adults wanting to look childish. The line here is blurry but with the sexualisation of children's clothing that is occurring on a lot of popular jojifuku accounts, it is now an issue. I see this as being different to an adult wearing pastels or using "childish" elements in a sexualised way because there is a clear understanding that this person is an adult (rather than many of the prominent jojifuku models who are trying to look like a child).
@victorp8689
@victorp8689 Год назад
what do you even mean lmao theyre not trying to look like a child they just look like that, some people just look very young no matter what theyre wearing
@Take_It_Easy_Today
@Take_It_Easy_Today Год назад
@@victorp8689 true fr
@Take_It_Easy_Today
@Take_It_Easy_Today Год назад
What if they look naturally young? It's very problematic talking about someone aparece and clothes taste and saying it's "problematic", for what? Bc u said so
@whoohw1394
@whoohw1394 Год назад
@@Take_It_Easy_Today there’s a difference from a young face and intentionally acting like a child to gain attention. I agree some people just have a baby face! I do and get mistaken for a younger age all the time despite being 21. 🤷🏾‍♀️ However, I wouldn’t use my young face and dress a certain way to attract a certain audience if you catch my drift. Some of these people may not be intending to attract people with sick mentalities towards children, but we can’t act like this type of genre of adults who act or dress like children doesn’t exist because it does. There’s tons of men and women who will pay money and give tons of attention to people who fulfill there fantasies. Even outside of this type of style. It’s an easy way to act on the line, “They just look younger but they’re an adult so it’s not a problem” but there’s an underlying issue. I’ve heard so many people justify that with things like loli’s for example who look literally like children but because they’re age is 18+ in a show it’s not a problem.
@wo-lien6069
@wo-lien6069 Год назад
@@whoohw1394 true
@momoblood
@momoblood Год назад
I remember a video (by mina lee) about the japanese school girl, i think the same principle works with this fashion... everything started as a way to express and feel comfort and got weaponized AGAINST them because of dirty old men. I personally don't believe that clothes should have the power to categorize someone as a "fetishist" :( i feel so bad for the people who feel confortable wearing them
@momoblood
@momoblood Год назад
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Nah, i let them be at least now the girls are financially draining the dirty dudes from a safe space. I was just thinking that its unfair for people who are looked in weird ways when they aren't asking for it and just want to be themselves.
@momoblood
@momoblood Год назад
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 I'm not from the US but, yeah everything is fucking expensive, the weight of living is crushing us all. If you have the chance look for shops that sale clothes for plus sized people, those will probably fit you best lengthwise, the rest is ok because oversized clothes are trendy even for adult men! I hope a good opportunity comes your way, thanks i'll try to stay away from aluminium dust, have a nice day!
@oceana311
@oceana311 Год назад
it’s one thing to wear mezzo piano and cute clothes that’s fine but way too many women participating in this are calling themselves “elementary girl cosplayers” and taking sexual photos in childrens clothes. that is not okay at all and no one should feel bad for them when they are actively participating in the harm of child girls. cosplaying as a child is not okay children need to be protected especially when they have no control over these situations. that’s not to say u cant wear cute things or mezzo piano as a brand i find many mezzo piano tops cute but i’m not going to try to look and act like a child.
@momoblood
@momoblood Год назад
@@oceana311 Like i said, i feel bad for the people who wear them and don't wish to be perceived that way. For the kinky pOrn i don't really care what people do for work or entertainment, as long as they are concenting adults thats fine to me BUT if someone cannot separate the circus and the clown well... that's the police job and i hope they rot in hell.
@momoblood
@momoblood Год назад
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Honestly, trailer trash sounds kinda cool, maybe all the pieces in dark colors?! That could be fresh!
@sunmi2539
@sunmi2539 Год назад
How did cute little kawaii outfit style have such a deep lore😭
@estelaangeles2346
@estelaangeles2346 Год назад
I heard a creep made the style popular
@fdjgkhfsdkghfskjghdf
@fdjgkhfsdkghfskjghdf Год назад
men will literally sexualize any cute girl to exist. im definitely not surprised
@epicgirl65060
@epicgirl65060 5 месяцев назад
it’s japanese DDLG
@dollserver
@dollserver 11 дней назад
"It's such a shame that *INTERNET RANDOM MENTALLY ILL PERSON* is saying that this thing I like is problematic... guess I'll have to stop doing it"
@marshall3973
@marshall3973 Год назад
I'm a sweet lolita so when I first heard jojifuku described as "adults trying to look like children" I was wary. Lolitas are often told that we are trying to look like children when that's super not the point. People should absolutely be able to wear feminine and pastel fashion styles without it being seen as a kink thing. But after seeing this video, nah jojifuku is blatantly sexualizing young girls imo. I think if you want to incorporate these brands into your style that's cool, but the images of "legit" jojifuku that are shown here are blatantly sexualizing people who are trying to look like elementary age girls. It's gross.
@N33k5
@N33k5 Год назад
Not to say anything upsetting but, jojifuku intentions in some circles feel almost like the western early 90's female grunge musicians that used "kinderwh*re" to describe their style of dress. Aka the slooty schoolgirl uniform and the like.
@marshall3973
@marshall3973 Год назад
@@N33k5 completely agree
@annierminx
@annierminx Год назад
@@N33k5 I've never heard of that term before since I'm not a native english speaker, I can't explain how disgusted I'm by such a word...
@dismurrart6648
@dismurrart6648 Год назад
I think this is a super important distinction
@gfalconi
@gfalconi Год назад
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 lolitas don't dress like. Haunted dolls. We're actually mostly inspired by historical rococo and victorian dress, worn by real people in those times, not dolls !!
@natsukiazr4519
@natsukiazr4519 Год назад
Personally I enjoy the style as I used to wear mezzopiano and that brand made me so happy as a kid!!! But def a rebranding is needed for this fashion “heiseijoshi” makes more sense imo. it removes the “joji-- kid” and emphasizes in the Josei- women reclaiming their youth aspect more
@natsukiazr4519
@natsukiazr4519 Год назад
Also emphasis on not sexualizing said childrens brand- like you ca. totally wear justice or mezzopiano in a way without making yourself look childlike or younger
@wo-lien6069
@wo-lien6069 Год назад
@@natsukiazr4519 right
@natsukiazr4519
@natsukiazr4519 Год назад
@Kig Research Institute i agree:( unfortunately theres only so much we can do over seas;-;
@ravenviolinhipz7885
@ravenviolinhipz7885 Год назад
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@swaberrigutz
@swaberrigutz Год назад
I would definitely be using the term!
@sweetlcs
@sweetlcs Год назад
It irritates me so much that I can't wear whatever I want, "jojifuku" has always been a style I've wanted to achieve for a long time but once I heard people say how problematic and sexualized it is, it just made me feel outraged because literal GROWN MEN are doing this to an innocent fashion style, I really want to continue dressing like this but Im afraid I'll get hated on and called a "fetishizer" or a "p3do". I just want to enjoy dressing how i want to :'(
@900ug
@900ug 8 месяцев назад
i mean you can wear whatever you want. get rid of the internet and you will not hear about this.
@tylyn777
@tylyn777 6 месяцев назад
@@900ugfrr 😂
@puppi1852
@puppi1852 6 месяцев назад
Jojifuku started off a sexualised subculture..... it was wrong from the start
@maddyocean5948
@maddyocean5948 6 месяцев назад
the clothes don’t matter i don’t think. it’s whether you’re purposely trying to imitate a child in behaviour and mannerisms. so you should be okay! especially if you just love the fashion as you said. but tbh people aren’t very smart so they might do that.
@epicgirl65060
@epicgirl65060 5 месяцев назад
it’s also women. lol women can be creeps too
@4neeeee
@4neeeee Год назад
so maybe it would be good/better to call jojifuku (as a fashion style) ‘heisei joshi’ or ‘heisei joshi style’ like nekurayarou called it
@akemi_444
@akemi_444 Год назад
I think so too
@4neeeee
@4neeeee Год назад
@@maep4575 ah
@4neeeee
@4neeeee Год назад
@@maep4575 none seemed to relate to the fashion though
@MyFictionalChaos
@MyFictionalChaos Год назад
@@maep4575 I agree! If only one comment could influence a whole subculture of people. Maybe it can! Just use that as a hashtag & it may start to gain traction ;0
@wo-lien6069
@wo-lien6069 Год назад
right
@ConsciousCritter97
@ConsciousCritter97 Год назад
Really unfortunate that fashion can be taken so far in a direction like that... I've always preferred kids clothing, simply because of much cuter designs and patterns, I'm in mid 20s and my friends feel the same about kid clothes; there just cooler and cuter!
@cottoncandy2023
@cottoncandy2023 Год назад
Same here! I always thought that too.
@cottoncandy2023
@cottoncandy2023 Год назад
I always wished that kids clothes you see in the super market would just make them in adult sizes too 😅
@wizardlizard55555
@wizardlizard55555 Год назад
@@cottoncandy2023 Exactly! And the shoes too omg
@user-kx5en8dg7u
@user-kx5en8dg7u Год назад
same ! im especially jealous of little kids' jelly sandals/light up shoes
@bunnywavyxx9524
@bunnywavyxx9524 Год назад
and consider that with the rise of children wearing clothes for late teens/young adults there is going to be a pushback of people doing the opposite: wearing kids clothes.
@neu_dae
@neu_dae Год назад
the cute vs kawaii debate is so dumb.... we (westerners) say "kawaii" when it's specifically Japanese inspired cuteness... kawaii fashion/culture/aesthetic is Japanese cute/aesthetic culture (at least in English speaking countries) - hence saying "kawaii".. I'm sure there are more specific terms in Japanese culture because "kawaii" does just mean cute there. if something is just cute, yeah, call it cute - but if it's Japanese and cute, it's kawaii. we've used the term "kawaii or kawaiicore or kawaii aesthetic for years and years and years with no issue....
@cosmicandy4620
@cosmicandy4620 Год назад
I'm Japanese and I'm confused whenever people are worried about cultural appropriation. Japan has historically taken much inspiration from other countries, and enjoys seeing westerners looking into Japanese culture. There are places for tourists to try one and wear kimonos. So it feels contrary to my experience whenever I see cultural appropriation of Japanese culture come up.
@roccararudd9335
@roccararudd9335 Год назад
@@cosmicandy4620 its because people tend to not actually listen to the minorities opinions on what they're debating. In this case it's Japanese culture in particular. They tend to have have a savior complex and cant accept when they're wrong. It's very sad and infuriating :(
@seraph3m
@seraph3m Год назад
@@roccararudd9335 i have to disagree with the generalization of cultural appropriation critiques not affecting the actual demographic. there is a massive gap of experience with racism between japanese people in japan, and japanese people outside of it. a japanese person born and raised in japan is not as likely to have experienced or understand the social effects of cultural appropriation. so while other japanese people may say it’s okay, others may not. and because japanese people are not a monolith, all those opinions can simultaneously exist.
@glutenfree7057
@glutenfree7057 Год назад
@@cosmicandy4620 I’m sorry, but it feels like you’re Japanese American, not Japanese. If you’re even Japanese American. I’m only saying this because I’ve seen way too much people online pretending to be from Japan or Korea, and it pisses me off.
@pptenshi3900
@pptenshi3900 Год назад
@@glutenfree7057 You’re not one to choose someone else’s identity. The only one who should have that power is themselves
@glassesgnostic6958
@glassesgnostic6958 Год назад
cutecore vs kawaii is so strange. on many occasions, japanese people, companies, etc. have been very encouraging and inviting to everyone globally about celebrating and participating in kawaii culture. there have even been many "kawaii ambassadors" appointed by the japanese government and NHK, and some of them were foreign (i know one was filipino and didn't live in japan). if you read more about "kawaii", it is indeed literally the japanese word for cute, but it is also a movement. people say it started when girls started writing so overly cute that it was incomprehensible. they wore cute things and collected cute things that were considered unbecoming of a woman. "you'll never get married looking like that," so what? the kawaii movement has been a form of rebellion against society and conformity. it is about being unapologetically true to yourself and what you enjoy. it's not cultural appropriation to use the word "kawaii", nor was it ever. of course, it's also an aesthetic. but what's cool about j-fashion and the kawaii movement is that quite a bit of it has very extensive history and meaning, like menhera and lolita. menhera is a subfashion that promotes mental health awareness and encourages healing. lolita fashion is conservative and much like what i said about the kawaii movement generally. they cover their skin: their shoulders (traditionally), their cleavage, their legs (this changes), their midriff, etc. and while people would say that it's not sexy, again, so what? they are not dressing to cater to other people's standards or desires, they are dressing themselves however they want. even today, we are so lucky to be witnessing the kawaii movement in motion. it's so fun and interesting seeing how it evolves. back in the 2010s the internet went nuts over kyary pamyu pamyu styled by dokidoki6%. i was actually able to go to the dokidoki6% store myself a few years back! it was so cool (and expensive af haha). i've been to japan and harajuku a number of times. the point of kawaii is that regardless of what people would think of them, they would still wear what they want and do what they want; without hurting people. cutecore is an irrelevant term. if anything, "cutecore" disregards all the work people have put into the kawaii movement, as well as the history of it. the hard work and crafts of people, artistry, and so much more. there are so many brands that have made wonderful clothes, such as angelic pretty, baby the stars shine bright, listen flavor, swankiss, milklim, liz lisa,... the list goes on. they are relatively small in size and while their products are expensive, they are often worth the price, if not all the time. the care they put into making and designing their works is so admirable. idk about "whitewashing" or cutecore being derogatory, but to me it just seems like the people who use that word probably just don't have a good grasp or understanding of the meaning of "kawaii". they probably have the wrong idea i'm asian. born and raised in asia. i've been to japan a lot and my family goes there all the time. my aunt took her masters there. unfortunately, it's somewhat harder for westerners to pick up on these things (especially if u cant read other languages). honestly, not a lot of people dress in kawaii and harajuku fashion in japan. in tokyo, it really depends on where you are. in other places in japan, it's even more rare to see anyone dressed like that. but i feel like the COVID-19 quarantine and the boom of tiktok has influenced more people to wear alt fashion styles. i see a lot more people wearing lolita, goth, etc. when i go out to the mall and stuff now (not in japan btw). not sure what change that has made for japan, but yeah. it's like how people expect that everyone in japan avidly watches anime when in reality, most people don't, at very least not at the volume or frequency they expected. people these days are so obsessed over calling out things for cultural appropriation even though they aren't from there and in turn the voices of the people they're trying to defend get drowned out. often times those people don't care. kawaii is not something you have to earn nor is it derogatory; it's just a word. a word with a legacy and culture applicable anywhere in the world. just use it lol no need to bring in more terms it just confuses people.
@novinovi-
@novinovi- Год назад
I love and adore Lolita fashion and it’s sad to see me say oh yeah I love Lolita stuff and then someone on Twitter getting upset I said the word and calling me a pedo.(I’m still a minor so it’s kinda ironic seeing people tell my that tho but it’s sad that I kinda have to keep how I dress to myself. If these people on Twitter keep calling banning words we are going to run out of words in the dictionary at this rate.
@nova_beam
@nova_beam Год назад
I think it’s hard because cultural appropriation is more a western society thing, not entirely but mostly. When you live in a place filled with different cultures someone who is a minority may feel lost in the shuffle. You want to hold on the what ties you to your history. So when someone from outside that culture uses something from your culture it’s frustrating. When you talk to a person actually living in that country they’er confused and don’t even understand cultural Appropriation. I didn’t even know people using the term “Kawaii fashion” was getting push back right now. This reminds me of an art museum that was lending out kimonos to guests and people had a fit. Meanwhile there were actually Japanese kimono makers excited to hear their culture was being shared then devastated that anger had put a stop to it. To them it was a beautiful piece of clothing that should be shared with the world. They couldn’t understand why people were so mad.
@grey896
@grey896 Год назад
@@nova_beam absolutely agree! the people who are exposed to western media are the ones who mention such things. western media has started to blur the line between cultural appropriation and appreciation in some ways, and it starts to just get more and more confusing.
@pearlcnrd
@pearlcnrd Год назад
People who have never had their culture appropriated, are usually the ones doing this making the most noise and it almost always a specific hue of people and never the actual people said appropriation is happening to, *and* there actually isnt anything wrong being done. Then when actual appropriation of ones culture happens and it is being called out by the people of that culture they are hit with hate that is anti-(insert their identity).
@leejordan6965
@leejordan6965 Год назад
This was a good read..it really tied my questions together and I'll be looking back on this comment lol.
@beckysuperswag
@beckysuperswag Год назад
i’m honest to god so tired of people trying to demonize women and older girls who like looking cute and wearing cute clothes. it’s sick. it affects peoples mental health
@graffiti-grfeedi
@graffiti-grfeedi 10 дней назад
It's to the point I feel not even a therapist can help them
@ktt7027
@ktt7027 Год назад
It annoys me to no end that I can't dress how I want without people giving me shit. My room is 100% pink, I wear my hair in half-up pigtails, and love a lot of cutesy pastel fashion in general (I don't stick to labels like "lolita" or whatever, I just wear what I like for this reason). People are SO fucking weird.
@majobun
@majobun Год назад
same! i have tons of toys and plushies around my room and i love wearing pigtails and ribbons in my hair and i’m so sick and tired of people sexualizing it! can’t they understand i just like cute things..? :(
@Yuna-vi2iz
@Yuna-vi2iz Год назад
It’s different in this situation bc this style stems from children. They attach fetish to it.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
you do you. wear what u want.. as long as no one is hurt people should wear whatever they want.
@Yikkoofficial
@Yikkoofficial Год назад
Same .
@Candyy248
@Candyy248 Год назад
I wear pigtails a lot too and my room is full of plushies , I can somehow relate Unfortunately some ppl sexualize too much :/
@kysx-xxll
@kysx-xxll Год назад
As a Japanese person, people here just doesnt really care nor really think through jojifukus or just any type of sexualization towards minors since it’s been pretty normalized. I mean in japan it is still problematic to sexualize minors however most people don’t care as much as they do in the US, When I used to do a lot of live streaming on the Japanese media when I was 12/13 years old, older men casually sexualized me and kept calling me a “loli” girl and said how I’m so “petite and cute” or some people even said how I look like I’d be pretty “t1ght” and everyone who was watching the live stream just took it as a joke. It got pretty off topic but now that I think about it I think these things in japan just shouldn’t be normalized:( Jojifukus in general isn’t bad it’s just the adults that sexualize it and in japan I feel like when adults wear jojifukus or any type of things like that, the term “loli” or sexualization towards minors are mentioned casually. I know that in japan being “cute” is pretty popular, but people should see the borderline between “cute” and “bringing up baby/child related subject to make things look cute” which can turn into sexualizing minors/ childlike activities
@kelseymii921
@kelseymii921 Год назад
Exactly! it’s really gross. And when you speak out about this people just take it as “oh silly Japan” it’s fcking weird!! I definitely agree with the last sentence. And If you listen to the way you hear people describe why they like East Asian women they will say mostlikely say something similar to the affect of what you described and it’s SOOO WEIRD how it’s accepted. I’d say media like anime etc also influences this… I’m so sorry you experienced those things when you were younger. You didn’t deserve to be exposed to that.
@off6848
@off6848 Год назад
I think Japanese culture is just more honest and west can’t handle it. Men tend to be attracted to younger sexually mature women puberty and up because of nature no use in repressing it It’s the pre pubescent sexualizing that is abhorrent
@kelseymii921
@kelseymii921 Год назад
@@off6848 you are a weirdo for trying to defend/dismiss this. Under a video predicting exactly what you said in the last sentence AND under a comment of someone who was sexualized as a minor. Why did you feel the need to say this…? You would have contributed more to the discussion by simply not saying anything at all. You weirdos always tell on yourself when you say “younger” and the traits y’all use to mean “younger”. Especially since given the topic and examples present in the video (examples being that of women who dress up specifically to look like pre/pubescent girls) and what the OP comment said. Again, Why did you feel the need to comment this? This is not the same as being attracted to a 25 yr old as an older man. (And even then, eyebrows are still raised if it’s a dude well into his elderly years chasing young women) If you are attracted to someone under the age of 18 even though you are well into your adult years something is wrong with you. So yeah, you’re telling on yourself here. Which part of these traits are sexually mature? a 12 yr old is not sexually mature. Christ, the fact that you use “Japanese culture vs the west” etc rhetoric I can bet you don’t even live in Japan yet you speak of this country and these people like they are in some other world not on earth with the rest of us. Typical. Always see weird types like you whenever this criticism is presented relating to Japan.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
@@kelseymii921 I think the pr9blem in Japan especially is that most media tends to focus on young girls and no one else.. so it kinda shapes a mentality that forces older men and women to sexualize young people.. and not even like teens but younger.. like 13.. so I agree.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
@@kelseymii921 but it does make sense why adults are hitting o. highschoolers on the street.. in the west you'd be beaten up lol. also Japan is thrbonly place to have female only cart on thr subway.. Def needs fixing
@EpoxyMuffin
@EpoxyMuffin Год назад
Wild that people started on "kawaii" which is such an accepted term in japan and western j-fashion communities and ended up on a different phrase that has p3dophilic roots because of concerns about appropriation. Like, what??? So strange.
@novinovi-
@novinovi- Год назад
It also has to do that someone wrote a book with the same name as a popular kawaii fashion style Lolita. The book was based around a pedofile as the main protagonist. Due to the naming concidence , but now due to that it’s severely hurt Lolita fashion even tho it has nothing to do with the book. Then of course I guess it’s been broadened to any cute aesthetic
@chickennugget5990
@chickennugget5990 Год назад
@@novinovi- The entire point of the book is to display the main character as a monster, not to endorse his actions. It's just an unfortunate naming coincidence, with the book being released before the style came into its own in the ~70s.
@novinovi-
@novinovi- Год назад
@@chickennugget5990 ohh ok, from what I had researched I heard that it seemed to promote it, thanks for letting me know, truly a sad disappointing naming coincidence
@watercolourferns
@watercolourferns Год назад
@@novinovi- The book came before the fashion, tho...
@kuromichan1985
@kuromichan1985 Год назад
I lived in Japan in 2005 and taught English at a preschool. The children always wore these cute clothes and I would see them at my local mall. I actually bought a t-shirt from Mezzo Piano (it was about $60) just as a reminder of my time there. Some Japanese people asked me why I wore it lol I guess I was one of the first adults wearing it? I think you should be able to dress how you like and the evil people who make it a sexual should be punished not you. I hope you choose to dress how you like everyone. It’s much harder to do in your late 30s 😅
@Ariel_is_a_dreamer
@Ariel_is_a_dreamer Год назад
OMG. I love the aesthetic I used to call "Cute Dreamy". I just found out it has a name and it's YUME KAWAII. Humans do share a hive mind, I swear
@fialka39
@fialka39 Год назад
i love yume kawaii!
@quintetkuu4033
@quintetkuu4033 Год назад
we also not gonna talk abt how jojifuku attracts a LOT of ed communities and a good chunk of them make up the fashion ???
@seraph3m
@seraph3m Год назад
ahaha…. i mean that would call for an entire dissection of japanese culture (and much of the world)’s association of thinness with attractiveness, and that could be a video all its own
@catfreestyle
@catfreestyle Год назад
literally.
@temp_unknown
@temp_unknown Год назад
Literally every fashion does this though. Every single jfashion, plus plenty of western fashion. There's nothing new or special here.
@quintetkuu4033
@quintetkuu4033 Год назад
no bc i hear yall on the whole "jp's body standards" point but that's not what i meant, i mean any time i look up jojifuku, the first few results will almost ALWAYS be from an english edtwt thread. every jfashion comm is bound to have ed posting but generally, western comms are pretty good at filtering it out/make it very clear it is not supported. it just surprised me how rampant and accepted it is in jojifuku specifically
@appyappap
@appyappap Год назад
I think it’s especially harmful because the standards for this style really expect you to fit into clothing made for toddlers and elementary schoolers. Yes, there’s an issue with beauty standards in general and the odd relationship with thinness, but with Jojifuku it’s on another level. It’s not being skinny enough to fit into adult clothes, because there are plenty alternatives when it comes to that. You can look good and weigh whatever, obviously. It’s being skinny and petite enough to wear children’s clothes. To have a childlike silhouette. There’s this big issue that Jojifuku revolves around, and it’s self-image. I feel a lot of these people don’t feel good or attractive unless they look like children. And there are others that just enjoy looking like a child with no purpose. I think Jojifuku is just a part of the menhera scene in j-fashion at this point. It’s quite taboo, and the obtuseness and ignorance you’d have to perform to enjoy wearing it as a westerner is stupid. The mind gymnastics and gaslighting people go through just to defend it, lol. At the end of the day, I think we all know.
@MyFictionalChaos
@MyFictionalChaos Год назад
It is always sad to see these types of things in Japan. If we started wearing girls' 2000s clothes again for the nostalgia (which a lot of people do now) it wouldnt be held with the same connotations :c
@kaitlynmorgan8097
@kaitlynmorgan8097 Год назад
Y2k fashion is coming back but it's a bit different. The clothes are inspired by what celebrities wore, people like Paris Hilton, shows like gossip girls, and most importantly the black people who kick started many of these trends. It more about looking like a 2000s music video rather than wearing the clothes you wore as a child. I do agree that east asian women get infantilized a lot, but this is a bit of a different case
@rinibunny4576
@rinibunny4576 Год назад
Yeah but these are kindergarten / elementary age clothing vs teen
@nctsgrass
@nctsgrass Год назад
Nobody would be able to start a trend of wearing kids clothes in the west. The problematic trends we have ongoing is the opposite problem, tweens dressing/putting makeup on to look like adults, which sadly gets sexualised.
@AndreaMartinez-ip2vu
@AndreaMartinez-ip2vu Год назад
I wear kidcore sometimes and it’s often similar to what you described: wearing child-like clothes inspired by the late 90s and 2000s for the sake of nostalgia and fun 😊
@bunnywavyxx9524
@bunnywavyxx9524 Год назад
sis early 00s clothing was heavy sexualized and obviously for grown-ups. The debate would be that kids are acting too grown which already has arisen, but now no one even cares anymore.
@abbykurosawa7997
@abbykurosawa7997 Год назад
an actual japanese here who enjoys a lot of style and subcultures like thisㅡit's (jojifuku) definitely a subculture that's on thin ice, for a lack of better wording. i related a lot to the bit where it was mentioned that a friend said these girls' brands like angel blue and mezzo piano weren't those that were easily accessible or affordable enough to be worn by young girls, which is why at adulthood, some people do turn to jojifuku as a fashion to catch up on the things they couldnt have when they were younger. as for the hashtag though, thats where it definitely gets problematic. the fact that there are obvious pedophilic and fetishising elements that Only adults can engage with on the twitter account tells you they mean it to be what we're afraid of. jojifuku can and should continue to be its own fashion subculture as its a very cute one that both young people and adults could enjoy, but the intentions behind why people engage in this is smth to be wary of.
@Quon
@Quon Год назад
personally i find it a bit funny that a lot of kids fashion has now been appropriated by adults and kids can't partecipate
@FaeFlirtations
@FaeFlirtations Год назад
I think the problem is trying to restrict styles to age ranges to begin with. People should be able to wear whatever they like at any age. Adults should be allowed to be adults responsibly. Children should be protected from predators.
@Quon
@Quon Год назад
@@FaeFlirtations obviously. my point was more like an adult can't go to their office job dressed like that because its inheritely childish. We can manipulate reality as we want it in our heads but society is much bigger than us
@FaeFlirtations
@FaeFlirtations Год назад
@@Quon Sure but what is considered normal, professional , or casual attire for adults isn’t a static timeless thing. Nor do all adults work in strict office settings.
@plzleavemealone9660
@plzleavemealone9660 Год назад
Well. It's not what kids nowadays wear anymore. It's what adults that are now in their 20s wore when they were kids.
@Quon
@Quon Год назад
@@plzleavemealone9660 it's just pure nostalgia for us, still sort of child wear that personally i think shouldn't be related to sexual things but thats just me
@Ilsezwarts
@Ilsezwarts Год назад
Wow you did your RESEARCH. I really appreciate what you're doing for our community. Your page is such a great resource for information.
@merodipurin
@merodipurin Год назад
as someone who relates to the style of jojifuku, I think the casual and aesthetic wearing of girls clothes that is not sexualized is a valid fashion! however I think renaming it to separate from the sexual side of jojifuku is probably necessary. if jojifuku means girls clothes, maybe the name could be something along the lines of childish clothes? (kodomoppoi-fuku) This way, children aren’t the focus, the childish clothes are.
@letiziaroselli9395
@letiziaroselli9395 Год назад
The cute va kawaii debate is the most chronically online Tik tok shit, how is this a debate😭💀
@majobun
@majobun Год назад
it’s such a shame because i personally loved the aspect of jojifuku - the colorful cute clothes were exactly my style ! i am always jealous of kids clothes because they always have nicer designs that appealed to me, but i never go out of my way to buy anything in fear of seeming weird. i thought this fashion style consisted of people who felt the same as me and wasn’t afraid of embracing their inner child, but i guess not… it’s saddening honestly. i like a lot of “childish” things and the amount of people who automatically assume it’s in a sexual manner makes me sick.
@errorusernotfound1
@errorusernotfound1 Год назад
i feel you, as a csas who sees herself as a child (mostl ikely due to trauma) i also get called all sorts of disgusting things, and its extremly triggering. everything relating to the word child(ish) is just a minefield. and i of course agree children need to be protected. but people are so quick to jump the gun on just everyone who they dont immediatly understand and its very hurtful. its just sad
@unicornsrice1667
@unicornsrice1667 Год назад
Live your life and wear what you want.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
same. do whatever. if you're not part of that swxual side, don't let it stop u. I had a elementary yellow hat I wore and my Japanese friends were laughing but said it was cute. I bought it cause it's cure and a good hat.. nothing more. I re a lize people start respecting your style if u know what u want. I just like cute asthetic. ..nothing sexual about it and thry got it.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
@@errorusernotfound1 I have trauma as well and I think it's therapeutic. clothes can do that for people. if it makes u happy do what u love. yes, people with no fashion sense will laugh, but jokes on them for not having uniqness
@mimichan5555
@mimichan5555 8 месяцев назад
ik this is a late reply but looking back on this comment the jojifuku community has really sprung in popularity over the years. jojifuku is a lot more accepted by western community and there's a large one on tiktok, and the sexualisers of the fashion are usually 1. from japan and 2. only live on twitter.
@eggsaviare7208
@eggsaviare7208 Год назад
Im a Japanese person and in Japan, jojifuku isnt very sexualized nowadays anymore in Japan, all of the 18+ jojifuku photos are from the late 2000s and is now not really a thing anymore. Personally, I think tiktok is just too harsh on the cancel culture along side of people who aren't educated on anything about the topic. I think jojifuku and the sex industry jojifuku should be seperated to stop the gaijin community to stop misunderstanding and being way too sensitive about the fashion. Pedophilia is never okay but sometimes 13 year olds on the internet are just too uneducated on the topic. As an adult, I am very disgusted in the sex industry that was selling and promoting pedophilia.
@o-o2272
@o-o2272 Год назад
The way people talk about this style is so confusing to me like some say “its all se*ual” and others say “its not its just that some do” its like…😕😕😕
@MyFictionalChaos
@MyFictionalChaos Год назад
Because in Japan, the line between such things is blurred. Whereas in other countries we may have different words for one who is wearing the clothing and one who is a part of the fetish
@MahouShoujoKaffeein
@MahouShoujoKaffeein Год назад
I guess the simplest way to explain it would be - fashion started as a f*tish - some people found the fashion cute and either they weren't aware of the origin OR decided to wear the fashion for the clothes and not for the problematic part of it.
@o-o2272
@o-o2272 Год назад
@@MahouShoujoKaffeein thank you :)
@MahouShoujoKaffeein
@MahouShoujoKaffeein Год назад
@@o-o2272 you're welcome!
@epicgirl65060
@epicgirl65060 5 месяцев назад
it’s japanese DDLG people defend it cuz it’s japanese n they think women can’t be creeps
@aliciacortezsanchez4196
@aliciacortezsanchez4196 Год назад
i remember a some form of jojifuku being around 2007 after the airing of Kodomo no Jikan and also Ichigo Mashimaro. But it was more of a cosplay then a fashion statement. girls would wear the same elements of jojifuku like overall shorts, knee high socks, having their hair in pigtails and also the little red backpack that elementary japanese kids would wear. an american idol named Yukapon is a prime example of that kinda of jojifuku fashion at the time
@TeratophileX
@TeratophileX Год назад
isnt that anime is about a pedophile teacher and a willing child victim???
@aliciacortezsanchez4196
@aliciacortezsanchez4196 Год назад
@@TeratophileX unfortunately yes its was popular cause of how controversial it is
@TeratophileX
@TeratophileX Год назад
@@aliciacortezsanchez4196 i no longer wish to be sentient
@helium6809
@helium6809 Год назад
I didnt know Ichigo Marshmallow was so popular in some places! In France no one knows about it, but yeah the girls were very fashionable! If I remember correctly it was mostly layering, skirts on shorts, t shirts over long sleeves etc
@isabellamorris7902
@isabellamorris7902 Год назад
@@aliciacortezsanchez4196 I remember there being a fair bit of confusion with anime and wiki sites at the time about what to do with KNJ. Some just deleted their pages on it altogether. Wikipedia documents it but mostly through the lens of "yeah this has some pretty gross stuff in it and attracted some controversy"
@clarityashtons4273
@clarityashtons4273 Год назад
I love this fashion mainly because I didn't really get a chance to wear this stuff growing up only going to a school with uniforms and barely being allowed outside. Plus I didn't have a room to call my own to decorate with these styles so it really makes me happy to buy cute clothes and home decor like this! People think I'm goth because I mostly wear black and white clothes because it was the cheaper alternative since everything matched and money was tight for my mom and I wanted to make things easier. I would never wear this stuff in what most people would call inappropriate places though. I would wear it to a family bbq, running errands at target or Walmart, anime conventions, to the movies, etc. Or even if I'm taking my nieces out to a kids themed place and they'll freak out over my outfit and be even more excited to go out with me!
@angelickewpie
@angelickewpie Год назад
tysm for putting more info out in regards to jojifuku! I feel as though there is a lot of misinformation in western jfashion communities due to platforms like tiktok and people trying to make 女児服 be synonymous with kawaii fashion is really annoying. Like you said i feel like the tag 大人なのに女児服着てる is primarily used in context of fetish whereas the actual term jojifuku is used more as a way to describe an adult to wears childrens clothing just as clothing without any other underlying off putting implications
@snubnosedmonke
@snubnosedmonke Год назад
all this discourse is so terminally online lmaoo
@astro3713
@astro3713 Год назад
fr omg😭
@epicgirl65060
@epicgirl65060 5 месяцев назад
how??? it’s ddlg
@actualgoblin
@actualgoblin 5 месяцев назад
​​@@epicgirl65060no it isnt ur just gross + projecting
@quirklesteins2741
@quirklesteins2741 Год назад
well😭i’m someone with a petite body type and i LOVE the pop colors of angel blue and mezzo piano. i rlly love the cute designs on each. i first started buying a few of these pieces from depop, they kept popping up in my reccomended and seemed exactly like the pop, imaginative style i was going for. i had no idea they were childrens clothing brands (tho it makes sense now why all the sizes usually fit me) or that they related to smth like this until i watched ur video just now. i hate that this aesthetic aims to sexualize children, ESPECIALLY that photoshoot that was actually done in a real elementary school😭like wth were they thinking, those are real children who go to school there. i don’t know what the solution here is tbh. changing the name could work but in the long run, we need to change the culture that links femininity to children. this is both infantilizing women and creating a new sub genre for pedophilia to thrive. gross.
@espeon871
@espeon871 Год назад
Yeps
@Ameruuuia
@Ameruuuia Год назад
i love this style so much. i loveee rhe bright colors,and everything about it.I hate how nsfw communities cant just let cutw things exist without sexualising them.
@tofutofutofu444
@tofutofutofu444 Год назад
i saw haruka speaking on this and was hoping you would touch on it!! i know you always provide as much context as possible, and amplify the voices and opinions of those living in japan who understand the context a lot more, so thank you for your info as always !!
@mirabellegoldapfel6256
@mirabellegoldapfel6256 Год назад
So it's like lolita fashion and the unfortunate meaning of the name in the west, but the japanese way around, yikes. Let's quickly bury the name jojifuku until it's too late. Before everything was a -core or a -kei, I'd have called it retro girly or something. Once upon a time a time many western decoras also only had the larger sizes in the kids section to choose from if you wanted rainbow ponies on your shirt. Absolutely nothing wrong with wearing that. Just let's shut out the pervs from the fashion hashtags.
@novinovi-
@novinovi- Год назад
Yes, cries in someone who love wearing Lolita fashion has to kinda hide it or else I’m called a pedo, (like wth does that mean I’m a minor how does that work- nvm.)
@trova4725
@trova4725 Год назад
"shut out pedos" lol
@CaptainLuckyDuck
@CaptainLuckyDuck Год назад
I'm just sitting here still trying to figure out why bright and pastel colours and designs are only allowed for children, according to society, in the modern world. Back not even 300 years ago in kindgoms around the world, bright and pastel colours were sought after due to how difficult they were to create- children, even in wealthier families, rarely wore bright or pastel colours. Even with lolita, the J-fashion I wear, I find myself confused as to how the silohette because sexualised as the silohette was originally created for adults- in roccoco royal courts. After the death of Queen Victoria's husband, adults , wanting to be like the Queen, moved to wearing sad and dark colours, as this is what she wore when in the state of mourning she stayed in until her death years later. However, the 50s, 60s, and 70s brought back the bright colours and, ironically, the 70s fashion looked VERY similar to the fashions here, except they are more bright colours over pastels (although, you DID find the pastels in the 80s). Too many things have been made "child-sized" because parents wanted "mini-mes", which led to the situation we're in, I believe. I personally believe we should start sticking kids back in those long, baptismal-type dresses and bonnets that were unisex so all were treated the same and we immediately eliminate the possible sexualisation of them, but that's just me. Anything, really, to stop them getting sexualised (which is the most disgusting thing in the world) and to gain back the fashions that were meant for adults in the first place. A couple of fun facts: 1) Pink was, originally, a boy's colour. It became blue in the early part of the 19th century due only to a clothing campaign by a company. Yes, we completely changed our culture, worldwide, because of, as always, capitalism (the same with diamonds). 2) Men were originally the ones who wore high heels as to make them taller, enabling them to stand out amongst the group.
@CaptainLuckyDuck
@CaptainLuckyDuck Год назад
Just to clarify (as I sometimes wear goth fashions, as well), the "sad and dark colours" statement referred to the literal sadness and darkness of the king's death and the adoption of these colder colours. No, being goth does NOT mean you're a miserable person with no happiness to be found (this is a very sad and misleading belief of those outside the goth community). In this era, however, black was normally worn as a sign of respect and mourning for the dead. Also, I'm sad that I even had to write what I did about the baptismal-type dresses and bonnets. No child, at any point, should be sexualised, but I just don't know what else we can do to keep them safe when they have no way to defend themselves. It's the most messed up situation to be in as a society that we have to think of ways to pull perverted eyes away from children that see them in a sexual way. Again, though, these fashions were not originally created for children, but due to the "mini-me" scenario, were forced upon them by parents, which led to them being sexualised in such a way. This all makes my skin crawl.
@CaptainLuckyDuck
@CaptainLuckyDuck Год назад
@☁️loli*loli*fever*dream☁️ Disgustingly, there are "people" out there who reveille in the defenseless of a child. Many in places of power within tbe Catholic Church are very sad examples of the sheer scope of "people" who you'd trust to be good and upstanding, especially in relation to the sin and the church, that would do something just as this. The sickeningly high amount of cases worldwide of infants being abused is disgusting. Remember, too, up until about the 1920s, infants of any sex were put in these type gowns when they were put to bed. These monsters who abuse see only the body and the advantage they can take of these individuals. A baptismal gown wouldn't stop them, I know, but it's all I can think of to try to help these kids in SOME way.
@megsley
@megsley Год назад
plenty of adults wear bright colors - why do you think adults can't? do you ever go outside your house? in my office middle aged women wear jewel tones, pastels, etc.
@CaptainLuckyDuck
@CaptainLuckyDuck Год назад
@@megsley This is exactly my view. It's ludicrous the ridiculous barriers that are being put on fashion by boring people who don't understand the histories of such, and who want to unfairly gatekeep freaking colours- the same people who go into a store and buy the exact same thing as 5 other people they know to wear. Boring and unoriginal. And, what's sad is, they're probably super creative people underneath, but for the sake of "fitting in" with people that will most likely forget them in a couple of years, gave that up and thus became just another carbon copy of everyone else, giving up their uniqueness in the process. Plus, this view that if you dress in bright/pastle colours you're lazy, childish, refuse to be part of the team, and aren't dependable is just stupid. Why does how you dress or how you wear your hair matter when it comes to your work ethic? I swear, it irrates me to no end, especially because I do EGL and my wardrobe looks like a unicorn and a modern art gallery mixed with a rainbow and a bag of Skittles then exploded in it. EMBRACE THE RAINBOW, PEOPLE!
@ava5375
@ava5375 Год назад
@@megsley they mean lolita clothing not plain pink dresses that everyone wears 🤣
@fewd3
@fewd3 Год назад
I don't think there's anything wrong with wearing Jojifuku, but I do have a problem with it being sexualized Cute should stay in it's cute lane. Cute is not sexy
@izskura4750
@izskura4750 Год назад
People are so chronically online that saying cute core is apparently whitewashing and racist-- but so is kawaii since it’s appropriation? Like people are so so miserable-
@ahenderson9502
@ahenderson9502 Год назад
I find myself very invested in the topic of jojifuku style for many reasons. To start, I myself like brands like mezzo piano and the pieces from them. I feel it fits my personal style well; I like to wear cute fashions and pastels, and it's hard to find casual clothes in the US that are similar to that. I Believe for many people, this style is just that. But additionally, I think it would be constructive to move away from the term "jojifuku". That term has already been cemented as a kink, and for those such as myself that like cute fashion, it can get tiring to try and explain that you're not a P baiter or trying to sexualize children. I believe this style of fashion has grown beyond being just a kink, and it would be wrong to lump that into the origins of it. But as this style devlops and takes on a more innocent audience, I do find it imperative to find a proper name for it.
@shrt_cakee
@shrt_cakee Год назад
I am quite disappointed to find how people have been wearing and using this fashion style in this problematic way, but I do believe it can be redeemed into something better! It's a super cute style of harajuku but the name should be changed to something else because not only is it's name right now connected to these problematic ideas but it'll still be a cute fashion and a great way for girls to live out their inner child in an expressive way! I know that their will still be a stigma surrounding it though, even if we were to change the name and meaning of the fashion, but if your not using it in a harmful or preadatory way then I don't see an issue with wanting to dress in cute girl clothing. Harajuku is all about dressing how you want and wearing things that make you happy! This style has good potential, we just need to push away from the problematic side of it. I would love to dress like this but I do not want anything gross to come along with it I just wanna express my inner childness in a cute fashionable way! :D
@sweetlcs
@sweetlcs Год назад
You explained it so good, I really hope we can find an alternative name and community where this can be a less problematic fashion style.
@0strawberrymilk062
@0strawberrymilk062 Год назад
I personally think that people should just start calling the fashion a new word. That way if people or minors look up the fashion or get into it it's not seen a sexualized or fetish thing. (:
@satapon4129
@satapon4129 Год назад
You do realise that it'll just make another word that means the same thing right? Like calling a rose something other than "rose" won't change what it is, and the people who s3xualise the fashion will still use the new tag
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx Год назад
I strictly dress in pink, hyper feminine clothes that could definitely pass as children’s clothes, and..I just like the style man, what is this-
@zein8617
@zein8617 Год назад
Pink is not necessarily feminine you can wear designs that pop ur real feminine
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx Год назад
@@zein8617 yes, pink isn’t necessarily feminine. But I only wear dresses and skirts (though over leggings when it’s cold)
@kylocatky
@kylocatky Год назад
To be honest, I think the term is like a casualty of the internet. Because so many social media sites are tag dependent, it often leads to grouping like this, where ABDL accounts (adult baby diaper lovers) are right next to sfw accounts that just like the aesthetic/fashion. This happens very often in the furry community. There's even a subculture called 'diaperfurs' that will show up on Twitter next to completely normal fursuits. Unfortunately, the only real solution would probably be to change the fashion name, to ensure there's a sfw version for people who don't want to be apart of...the nsfw version😳
@Sonjaaa111
@Sonjaaa111 Год назад
I dress the way I do because of childhood trauma and because it makes me feel comfortable. Even though I am still a child technically it scares me that when I’m older people will say I’m trying to sexualize stuff when that couldn’t be more wrong. I’m just healing and trying to get back the childhood I lost. My brain randomly reverts to the age of four when everything started going wrong AND I have absolutely zero interest in anything remotely sexual and I never will. Ugh people make me so sick.
@user-zs7cr3vd7f
@user-zs7cr3vd7f Год назад
OMG this is exactly how I feel. I'm 15 and love jojifuku not only because its cute but also reminds me of when I also was 4 and how after then my childhood never got to happen. That time was very pleasant and even wearing clothes like that makes me very happy ^^ I need more friends who feel the same way so if your open to talking sometime lmk ill give you an acc ^^
@miserabIe.
@miserabIe. Год назад
so excited for this!! jojifuku has been getting popular in the west and the controversy behind it is so interesting to me lol
@breendart134
@breendart134 Год назад
I really like this video. I appreciate this format of plain, open, and unbiased presentation, with a range of sources used to show both facts and some opinions from people involved or knowledgeable. Feel like I learned something new today.
@_HIGHSCH00LSWEETHEARTS_
@_HIGHSCH00LSWEETHEARTS_ 2 месяца назад
As a Japanese person, i rlly don’t think saying kawaii is racist or appropriation. There are many words from Japanese that are also used in English, so i don’t rlly see how one word makes a difference
@pixie9499
@pixie9499 Год назад
i wear clothing that i perceive as “childish” or i feel others would perceive as so, but strictly for my own comfort. i don’t have a child’s body by any means - i’m 5’ tall but i was targeted starting 5th grade for having a large chest w/small frame - so i always try to do my best not to sexualize the clothing when i wear them. i’ve always done this, to a degree. i wear what i wear as a trauma response to SCA & CSA, so the last thing i’m trying to do is attract predatory men. unfortunately, i know that people *do* weaponize things like this, i even personally know of some. there’s a famous one who streams daily & has hundreds of thousands of online followers. it’s discouraging & makes me not as comfortable dressing this way, which i think is one of the most detrimental things coming out of this.
@DrBitchcraft.
@DrBitchcraft. Год назад
Ive multiple times been jealous how cute some clothes meant for children are. Super fun designs! But never the ones that actually makes you look like a little child.
@makaronipony
@makaronipony Год назад
Yeah this is why I just call my style kawaii fashion or kawaii kidcore 💗
@kaych.
@kaych. Год назад
Thank you for making this video! When I first heard the term jojifuku I was pretty confused, because as you touch on in this video, there is not a lot of info or community around this in the way you would usually encounter while researching a jfashion style online. All the controversy around it recently and the stuff with the insta hashtag made it seem even more muddled and confusing. I really appreciate all the research you put into this video and how clarifying it is about the nature of term and where it comes from
@ambrosebolleurs3974
@ambrosebolleurs3974 Год назад
i've always loved "kawaii" style and i thought that children's clothing was so much cuter and more appealing than most adult's clothing. when i had to stop wearing those clothes as a kid, i was really upset lol. it's unfortunate that some people are sexualizing this style, because personally i'm not going to try to get into jojifuku / danjifuku if it's going to be associated with the sexualization of children's clothes. i still think that it's a good idea outside of that and i would love it if a style like that became really popular.
@acid_tongue_4315
@acid_tongue_4315 Год назад
My sis is fluent in japanese (she says she isnt good at verbs but she can hold LONG proper conversations, she's even going to college for it Im so proud of her) and dresses with the traditional Western gothic style. I feel like she would love ur channel! :0 I def lov how in depth you went I learned a ton and have decided I wanna get more into these subcultures! Great video!!!
@Lizzehmeh
@Lizzehmeh Год назад
Looking at things "objectively without bias from all points of view" is the definition of critical thinking. Thank you for comjng at this topic with that kind of tact and thoughtfulness 😊
@lorelei9958
@lorelei9958 Год назад
As an alt fashion girl who incorporates 'children's clothing' in the form of backpacks, socks and accessories because it's hard to find kawaii fashhion pieces offline or outside of Asia; This discusts me. There is no reason that a woman (or an other grown person) who wears, wants to wear, or embrace the style of children's clothing should be using a hashtag kinksters and nunces use. It's a pretty common thing in alt fashion to incorporate clothing not 'ment for' you, kidcore is well established. You can wear iteams intended for children without in any way wanting to look like a literal child. I'm sorry, but if you do want to look like a child you either are one and shouldn't be in nsfw spaces or you're an adult with a nsfw intrest in it either for some very specific kinky roleplay that I'm sure you can use some other tag for or you're a nunce, which if you are, congrats this tag is for you. Themes of childhood, nostalga, and kids clothing could become a ligitemate fashion, but it would either need to take a strictly nonsexual approch like Lolita fashion, or a very WE AREN'T TRYING TO LOOK LIKE CHILDREN BECAUSE WE ARE ADULTS AND THIS FASHION IS FOR ADULTS approch, this is doing neither and it really shows.
@bruna7534
@bruna7534 Год назад
1:43 aaaaa I had so many Mezzo clothings when I was 5! My favorite was a skirt with two vertical zippers on it that revealed a stary pattern when unzipped, was kinda trendy at that time and I guess most my friends had those too.
@banipalwitt
@banipalwitt Год назад
Here is the thing: Cis men will sexualize anything. So even if people weren't posing in suggestive poses, someone was going to sexualize this anyway. I think reclaiming it and calling it Heisei Joshi is a good idea.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 Год назад
The problem is in your first sentence. People in general (yes, men and women) will sexualizar anything, so reclaiming the style may lead to no-sexualization in the short term, but sooner or later it’ll get re-sexualized.
@HibiscusMelody
@HibiscusMelody Год назад
So, what’s the point if it’s just going to end up getting re-sexualized later on anyway? Does that mean now we have to ban all DDLG content, Kawaii lingerie, and anything that is within the similar confines of any content similar to it. Just like school girl outfits, does that mean we just have to ban that too because it’ll end up getting sexualized? Because regardless of how it’s renamed and reworked/reworded, or if the models are posing in a suggestive way or not, anything and everything will be sexualized and that’s something that is completely out of our control. As a Master’s degree Psychology we cannot control how people sexualize anything, it’ll happen, it’s more so about whether or not these people act upon their impulses to do something (good or bad) about their own urges.
@caqui1993
@caqui1993 9 месяцев назад
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 I mean we know as a fact that this caters men but ok
@lilmissemi
@lilmissemi Год назад
I absolutely love your look!! I couldn't take my eyes off it!
@Roxas09202
@Roxas09202 Год назад
this video was so objective and analytical, it was really enlightening to watch
@axtiexe
@axtiexe Год назад
im really happy you have so much detail research in your videos. i am not on tiktok as i did not like the misinfomation spread about certain japanese cultures coming from white people and an example was that saying that 'kawaii'' is a slur. thank you for doing this video. it really saddnes me that dressing cute is sexualised. i love dressing cute and "childish"' as i find comfort in it and also use age regression as a coping mechiasm due to trauma. again for anyone asking, ageplay is NOT age regression and age regression is only sfw.
@whisperwhisper1285
@whisperwhisper1285 Год назад
weren't most people saying it was a slur dog piling a black cosplayer?
@cosmicandy4620
@cosmicandy4620 Год назад
@@whisperwhisper1285 if so, I wouldn't be surprised they were probably using it to cover for thier racism against the cosplayer, I've noticed black cosplayers tend to be harrassed alot due to racism, sadly. Saying a word in a different language is not even remotely close to saying a slur, and the idea of them comparing the two feels 100 times more more insulting then them using the word.
@cosmicandy4620
@cosmicandy4620 Год назад
As a japanese person who loves cute and kawaii things, I find the fact they said that not only ridiculous, but honestly insulting. Why would you speak of such things about a culture you aren't even a part of???
@axtiexe
@axtiexe Год назад
@@cosmicandy4620 yeah it makes me so angry when people say that black people cannot cosplay because they are black, it is just straight up racsim. like that logic, anyone who isn't japaense cannot cosplay any anime character. cosplay is for everyone no matter what race. /gen
@whisperwhisper1285
@whisperwhisper1285 Год назад
@@cosmicandy4620 it was like 50 accounts like newly created saying it
@Whole-Milk
@Whole-Milk Год назад
How about this: wear whatever makes you happy. Americans are so easily offended by certain fashion aspects of other cultures. In Japan this style is not about sexualizing children in any capacity.? This isn’t a “problematic trend”, this is a legit fashion subculture with deep and interesting roots and history that has been around for a while now. It’s not about looking like a sexy child for a man, it’s a meaningful way for people to reconnect with their childhood and sometimes the style just makes people happy. People wear this for themselves because it brings them joy, not for men. It’s that simple. Can the US please stop gatekeeping subcultures they know nothing about?
@Faithfrogffd
@Faithfrogffd Год назад
I love your editing and style !!! It’s amazing
@uglygeguri
@uglygeguri Год назад
Off topic but i used to follow you years ago on instagram before i deleted my account. I’ve never heard your voice before and it is SO endearing! Also glad to find ur channel!
@akemi_444
@akemi_444 Год назад
I heard about jojifuku so im curious to watch this
@axtiexe
@axtiexe Год назад
i remember when white ppl on tiktok were saying kawaii is a slur and it made me super mad as they seem to have done no research into what harajuku fashion even is kabskj
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
don't listen to those people.. literally people from Harajuku who are designers are trying to promote kawaii culture. lol. don't let white Knights who r real racist dictate what u can say
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Год назад
these white Knights need to realize it's not white wash if it's outside of Japan lol..
@SugaryRoyaltea
@SugaryRoyaltea Год назад
Hi cybr grl I'm really excited to watch your new video! :)
@neu_dae
@neu_dae Год назад
also jojifuku tags probably got blocked because I assume there was a ton of DDLG overlap going on... so not shocking it got blocked. update edit: I was correct lol if "jojikuku" tags are used for DDLG and nsfw/kink then it should not be used for harijuku fashion. it's not safe.
@ichigo.42ga3
@ichigo.42ga3 Год назад
@☁️loli*loli*fever*dream☁️ it's still fetishizing minors and parent-child dynamics
@NataliaNatchannel
@NataliaNatchannel Год назад
I really think jojifuku is a term too heavily surrounded in fetish, and that it's not safe to be using in the western jfashion community. When younger girls think these clothing items are cute and end up searching for more information online, it can open them to things they shouldn't be seeing, and even dangerous people. Being exposed to certain things like ageplay at a young age can really mess you up, and it really worried me when I saw the term "jojifuku" being used as a fashion on tik tok. I really liked the clarification that you can still use some kids items and be considered harajuku fashion, as opposed to being dressed in girls clothes from head-to-toe. I like the term "heisei joshi", and think it'll be better for the community to start using this word when it comes to the fashion! Thank you so much for making this video and clarifying things!
@asaheart21
@asaheart21 Год назад
i think that it doesnt matter where you go, corn will always be there. people being weird interactions, you finding some plus age stuff or something like that will always exist in all the styles. anyways i just want this to settle just so i can find inspirations for my outfits.
@ktt7027
@ktt7027 Год назад
Well said. There's corn of the fucking veggietales for crying out loud.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 Год назад
As rule 34 states, “If ir exists, there is “corn” on it”.
@asaheart21
@asaheart21 Год назад
@☁️loli*loli*fever*dream☁️ couldnt agree more
@asaheart21
@asaheart21 Год назад
@☁️loli*loli*fever*dream☁️ internet ruins everything, and that's the goal of some people
@hope7317
@hope7317 5 месяцев назад
i really appreciate you making this video! as an english speaker i first encountered jojifuku being described as “people wear children’s clothes because they couldn’t afford them when they were younger” and thought this was such a pleasant idea as someone who experienced something similar just in the west. being an adult with my own money, buying more childish things i never got the chance to have as a kid is very nice for me. i was really excited about jojifuku when i first found it because i thought it was groups of people with a similar mindset as me, but now having context for the NSFW style jojifuku images id find trying to look up the style, i no longer think this is the case. it seems the people who made jojifuku and insist in calling it that are trying to use it in a very unpleasant way, while those who use it in the way i’d like don’t necessarily make a big show about it. i think, because of those connotations, jojifuku, the fashion made by those in the sex industry, jojifuku, the normal clothes little girls wear and modeled by girls of the target age demographic, and people who wear children’s clothing should probably all be referred to differently.
@itsnotaphasemom4789
@itsnotaphasemom4789 Год назад
I love all of your videos especially when they get into subcultures and fashion styles. Counting down until this gets released.
@karisu123
@karisu123 Год назад
THE RAINBOW LADY IS BACK
@SesshyLover777
@SesshyLover777 Год назад
First of all, Kawaii Pateen is my life blood. Also, since I've heard of Fairy Kei but not 女児服 I guess that means I'm old now 🥲 but I do understand the hesitation towards the name. Especially with things like those 女子個性散歩 and the 会話 cafes existing along side the loli you know what industry at the same time. It has to be tough for those people who genuinely like the style because it's SO heavily associated with child abuse you can't even call it what it is. I'm also still a huge fan of these brands myself (no way I'll ever fit into them though LOL) so I also have some of these household items and accessories myself so it sucks to see pervs get so heavily associated with it. CUTE IS FOR ALL AGES!!!
@plzleavemealone9660
@plzleavemealone9660 Год назад
Honestly, this gives me flashbacks to my childhood. It's sad people are s-xu2lizing this. BUT something to mention, this is not new. This s-x2lization of this fashion style was going on when I was a child. I remember seeing suggestive imagery online or even just in the city in some dvd shops or even convinient store magazines of these clothes. When you know, this was still a style kids wore. The most common were shots from below, of children (or probably adults dressed as such) walking up their apartments stairs dressing like that, inviting the person below them to come with them. As a kid I knew these images were ''weird'' but I didn't really understand it back then. So this whole thing is ''coming back'' not appearing out of nowhere. And if you've been on the otaku side of Japanese twitter or have worked or known people who work in the idol industry, you'd know it never fully went away.
@LPSCANDY10
@LPSCANDY10 Год назад
Very insightful thank you for introducing more styles :D
@wizardlizard55555
@wizardlizard55555 Год назад
As an age dreamer/regressor (it’s not kink/fetish), I think Jojifuku is a really cute style, but I agree the style side vs the fetish side should have a different name. As someone who just wants to see cute clothes, it is triggering to find the fashion and fetish used interchangeably on platforms. To me, it’s like how ddlg and agere content are distinctly separated on platforms. They can look the same and they share some elements, but the meaning behind it is very different.
@bxnnies
@bxnnies Год назад
Yes! This!☝️
@XxNekoMoonxX
@XxNekoMoonxX Год назад
yes! some people just want to embrace cute stuff and their inner child, while others….sexualize it and that needs to be separate. it’s upsetting to be lumped into the sexual crowd when your intentions are pure
@errorusernotfound1
@errorusernotfound1 Год назад
wats an age dreamer? i never had a term to describe myself, people started calling me an ageplayer, but i didnt feel comfy in dat space. then people said i must be an age regressor, but i feel like i dont fit there either. since i just see myself as a child, and not an adult who regresses. i never heard the term age dreamer.
@cranburrey
@cranburrey Год назад
@@errorusernotfound1An age dreamer is just like age regression but the person does not mentally revert to a younger age, they are fully aware of their surroundings and can go back to acting like their current age. (I really hope this definition helps. I'm not sure whether I'm currect)
@errorusernotfound1
@errorusernotfound1 Год назад
@@cranburrey i see thank you 💖
@mahoupeach
@mahoupeach Год назад
this is a really good and informative vid!! ive been wearing kawaii fashion for years and personally i think that jojifuku is an excuse for very bad people to engage in fetish material with the excuse that it is just a jfashion subculture. the thing is that jojifuku different to these other cute styles - there are specific spaces to sexualise the fashion, whilst i find that other kawaii styles use children's media in a nostalgic and wholesome way. sources also constantly inform ppl that it is a way to dress and look like children, too. the subculture itself is built on the fantasy of pedos.
@sadjiraigirl
@sadjiraigirl 10 месяцев назад
Would you do a makeup tutorial of your makeup in this video?! I love it 🥺
@AnastasiaPlantlegs
@AnastasiaPlantlegs Год назад
Can't wait for this video 😩 😭 God jojifuku really makes me feel antsy. Heebie jeebies.
@mmortalworm
@mmortalworm Год назад
oh wow ive never even heard of this before, its interesting that so much of this seems to go back to that one studio and hashtag but doesnt have much of a presence outside of that. while i love the designs of brands like mezzo piano and angel blue, it def makes me uneasy seeing people who are wearing it in sexual ways with the examples youve shown, so i would personally never use that tag even if i were wearing a full outfit of those brands
@kisesakusaku
@kisesakusaku Год назад
I learned about this "style" from a mutuals on the bird app space, and as someone who has a fascination with pure, youthful and innocent pallete kind of clothing (pastel kei, decora, etc.) mixing with Akiba (anime/games/idols) culture (AKA Akiba-Kei, i'll bring that up after this) I was surprised... But also NOT surprised that this style exist. Long story short, yea it is NOT for the real youth, and I theory that this style "jojifuku" is a style that is meant for those who need to cope and to "earn" their dream piece or item when they're a adult because clothing and accessories from these specific, youth-specific target demographic ain't cheep. (Wait really??) It is also like a safe barrier to own and wear such pieces to cope, and not leading a future of actual harm because I think to me they wear them because they are very happy with such appeal. But same time, I can see why Tokyo Fashion does NOT tag nor find such people on street snaps. Looking at these posts shown, a lot are closed indoors, indicating that this style is likely not meant for public or outdoor, likely for personal safety. (Maybe this is why the cafe is desired?) Its also to me personally very awkward, even if I do like the design pieces of these brands. I say to use "jojifuku" on certain spaces, just like the other adults-only hobby "styles" such as ABDL (I am so sorry I have to bring the term up!). Its a sensitive topic, but I think at the end of the day it is up to the individual who IS involved in that style. If one is into it... Okay then! Just don't go out and meet other yume kawaiis or pastel keis in a meet up or fashion walk. (Maybe if its with your friends.) But it is also depend on the environment. Prefer not with families around to get confused. Also I like Bisuko and their Menhera-chan brand, and able to meet them in person years ago! Anyway about Akiba-Kei: I don't know if you ever plan to cover it, or I live under a rock and missed it.. LOL. But if it doesn't exist, do you have any intentions to cover it? I learned about it years ago via Tokyo Fashion channel, and I incorporate pastel kei or decora with Akiba Kei, which is helpful from someone who is a shameless and respectful otaku! Thank you for making such amazing and even respectful content! (And these warning tags.)
@alexandracitan777
@alexandracitan777 Год назад
really off topic from the video but o manage to find you every where and i love it
@Starlight_Vessel
@Starlight_Vessel Год назад
I still wear some of my childhood dresses, I have this super frilly one that is pink and white and it has pink and white hearts and I love it so much! I have other clothes from childhood that I still wear but I didn’t know people called it a type of fashion lol
@lemurgyaru
@lemurgyaru 11 месяцев назад
as you said the line is blurry but I think if you just wear mezzo piano / angel blue clothes cause theyre cute or nostalgic theres no inherent problem in it, it becomes a problem when you actively sexualize wearing children's clothes. it's also a problem if someone wears those clothes innocently but an actual lolicon starts getting all up in their space, however that's not the wearers fault since they didn't ask to get weirdos' attention (and as a gyaru who started out as a minor i know wayyyy too well what it's like to be sexualized against your will because of what you wear)
@obeserice21
@obeserice21 7 месяцев назад
i really wanted to dress in this kind of style but i was deeply afraid of this exact thing so i educated myself more on it before i even tried to dress up in the fashion, since i’ve heard a lot of bad things about it and people getting weird comments. Also heard a lot about eds happening in the community. i still fear dressing like this because as someone who is still considered young i don’t want to be targeted by anyone specifically.
@dewdropmushroom
@dewdropmushroom Год назад
I hadn't heard of this style before but can totally appreciate it! There was a girls clothes store called Tammy Girl in the UK when I was a pre-teen/early teen and if they were still around I'd totally try and still wear their clothes XD It's unfortunate that most J-fashions on women are sexualised by the outside (ie, Lolita) but this style seems to have grown out of a fetish? So, sort of like the other way around. Regardless, no one should be sexualised or harassed or have assumptions made about their intentions without their consent. I would probably avoid the hashtag if I were to wear the style and go for something more along the lines of yumekawaii or fairy-kei even if that wasn't 100% accurate.
@pnkyosha4148
@pnkyosha4148 Год назад
Here me out, would it be better to call jojifuku something like mezzo angel kei? To give this a much needed new definition of possibly youth nostalgia.
@espeon871
@espeon871 Год назад
Or just like the japanese translation of kidcore?? And make it the same?? Since its basically the same. Cuz kidcore is explicitly dress like kids for nostalgia?? Also honestly, i feel bad that the well meaning people who were misinformed r now calling their style jojifuku, i hope someone makes a vid abt it.
@natanrupieta3200
@natanrupieta3200 Год назад
i love jojifuku so i cant wait for the video
@smol3113
@smol3113 Год назад
I wear kids clothes almost exclusively, but I've never heard of jojifuku until a few days ago. I think it would be best for those of us who just enjoy the fashion to find a new name for it.
@Itriedbeingcreativebutfailed
Damn this is my first time here and I was very interested in this subculture before very cool video! But I've gotta point out that I LOVE ur wall-I mean rainbow?? Yess please!!
@itspeacefully5186
@itspeacefully5186 Год назад
Thank you for this information. I appreciate it
@samthomas5962
@samthomas5962 Год назад
I feel like this comes as a natural progression of the infantilization of women in general and in the ways it happens in Japanese culture. It then seems natural that any place a woman exists, although she may have entered under infantilization, she can then be seen as sexual since she is an adult. It can also be a reclamation, “you can infantilization me but I am always still a full woman” and there it can be a tricky social experiment wherein if you as the viewer take the sexy part alone and run, it’s more revealing about you than it is about the woman’s expression.
@PARAxLETHALxSYSTEM
@PARAxLETHALxSYSTEM Год назад
Mezzo piano and the other brands are so cute, the characters, the designs- they are so fun and kawaii, unfortunately some ppl wear them to cater to gross people... But some just wear it bc the design makes them happy. Yes it's literally children clothes... And i guess if you can fit it and like it, why not? I don't think theres anything inherently wrong with the clothes, but wearing them to intentionally look like a child... I dont think thats ok- if you were to wear head to toe mezzo in the West, im not sure if anyone would ask "is this a fetish thing?" Like they would with lolita per say... But you dont rlly know why anyone is wearing what they are unless they tell you.
@athena2158
@athena2158 Год назад
I love ur strawberry fit in the first clip 🎀
@nameless1119
@nameless1119 Год назад
A sophisticated approach by an interesting person. Very refreshing.
@lovegalore-3732
@lovegalore-3732 Год назад
as someone who loves decora, i love the angel blue design they are pop and colorful ( just like me lol :), but after seeing this video i might consider wearing those item ( i dont have but i was looking for winter stuff, like knit cardigan ...) but saldl i dont want to be sexualised...
@_meldrop_
@_meldrop_ Год назад
I don’t think anything is wrong with the fashion aspect of it, because they’re just clothes! It would be a good idea to rename the style, since jojifuku has already been taken over by people who are either pedophiles or have a problem with it. Renaming the fashion would be a simple and easy way of separating the fashion from the reputation.
@moniikutts8369
@moniikutts8369 Год назад
The whole style is tryna look like elementary kids, why would people want that? Its nasty 💀
@_meldrop_
@_meldrop_ Год назад
@@moniikutts8369 they’re just clothes. If they’re serving their purpose as clothes, then it doesn’t matter who they’re “made for”. Maybe it’s not about looking like a child, maybe it’s just about wearing clothes that make them comfortable. Just because someone is an adult, it doesn’t automatically give other people permission to sexualize them without their consent. People should be able to wear whatever they want without the fear of being sexualized, regardless of age or gender.
@moniikutts8369
@moniikutts8369 Год назад
@@_meldrop_ if dressing up as a child makes u comfortable, get help
@_meldrop_
@_meldrop_ Год назад
@@moniikutts8369 I think that’s funny considering you have an anime pfp. Wouldn’t it be weird if people went around saying, “oh every adult with an anime pfp needs to get help because anime is just cartoons made for children” Isn’t that statement wildly inaccurate and also ignorant? That’s literally exactly what you’re doing.
@moniikutts8369
@moniikutts8369 Год назад
@@_meldrop_ lmao it's not even an anime character 💀 and I'm not an adult. And comparing liking anime to straight up wanting to dress like kid don't make sense
@punchingbag277
@punchingbag277 Год назад
great video! really informative. could you do a mori kei video sometime in the future?? i would really appreciate that :D
@honeyswann
@honeyswann Год назад
I like jojifuku fashion but I can never find anything my size :/ I’m size l-xxl depending but it sucks this style seems to be reserved for more smaller women
@honeyswann
@honeyswann Год назад
Although i only really like it since it reminds me of being a child not because … ughh yea. It’s sad people like it for gross things
@cherryfundips
@cherryfundips Год назад
I understand your pain 😖 I am 5’7 (5’8 on a good day) and have a larger chest. You can’t find anything in our size!! I love it so much because it also reminds me of my childhood!! Didn’t have a great one so I’m tryna get in touch with my inner child but it’s so sad that I can’t fit in any of the cute mezzo piano and some sanrio clothes T-T
@catfreestyle
@catfreestyle Год назад
@@cherryfundips aw hun I’m on the taller side too dw you’re still adorable and it might not be the brands you want but there are still plenty of places to get clothes that fit us !! trust me, most people wouldn’t fit the extra small clothes they sell... seriously own your height you’re still super cute and keep looking !
@hamtaromachina
@hamtaromachina Год назад
I accidently stumbled upon an extremely sick image of a child on a website that was of this style. I was scarred from what i saw which lasted a split second before a mod kicked me out. It was on a public streaming site that got banned years ago. The reason i got even exposed was cause the cover was an anime girl. That was 5 years ago. It still pops in my mind on and off and I get nauseous. I can't even imagine what it's like for those who actually get first hand violated. Seeing an image for one sec was horrifying. It's disgusting and that word doesn't do any justice
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