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Let's Talk About Low KH But High pH 

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Here are some thoughts on having low carbonate hardness while having a high pH.

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@pencilpauli9442
@pencilpauli9442 3 месяца назад
Thanks, Dan Really appreciate the clarity of your explanation.
@IsabellaM._
@IsabellaM._ 3 года назад
I've been having troubles understanding the ph but this explanation helps a lot and moves me closer to understanding it.
@matthewmilburn938
@matthewmilburn938 5 месяцев назад
Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. Got something to chew on now. Thanks for giving such a broad overview. You have just saved me from banging my head on my keyboard for MORE hours doing ONE very specific Google search! 99.9% failure rate there! 2HR Aquarist & you have been the only real help in hundreds of results: low KH high pH very high GH. my tank transforms low KH neutral pH low GH (filtered) tap water. Lightly stocked well planted mostly rhizome plants. 330 litres/87gallons total including sump. 2 inch bed pebble sand yellow clay. Well established& fish are happy but plants have lost vigor. I haven't used much fert up till now. Anyone wanting to add their experience, much appreciated.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 5 месяцев назад
Plants struggle in pH over 7.8 Nutrients only remain soluble between 5.5 and 7.8 pH. Any higher or lower and it prevents the plants from absorbing nutrients.
@matthewmilburn938
@matthewmilburn938 5 месяцев назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Thanks. Another gem I wish more people were publishing, maybe I'm just reading in the wrong places?! That's where I am now, 7.8 And our city water reports get up to 7.5 max... so it's not much of a jump to trouble for me. Thanks again.
@angelcrow6256
@angelcrow6256 2 года назад
Thank you. This was really helpful. I have a PH of 8.2 and a KH of 3. I think you're right about the plants pulling the Co2 and nitrite out of the water. I'm going to do a small water change to try and help. My PH has not been stable and I've been trying to sort this out for a while.
@russellthomas1216
@russellthomas1216 7 месяцев назад
that is my tap water and the GH is off of any chart or test I have found ... guessing around 300 at least.
@chiralvandal
@chiralvandal 3 года назад
Wow, thank you so much Dan! This makes complete sense, my kH did drop to 0 in my tank when I went negligent on water changes, and pH dropped to about 7.4 or 7.6. I think my plants were able to consume the CO2 from the fish, before it acidified the water too much. This video reinforced how important it is in my case to stay on top of water changes especially with my water chemistry. No more excuses for me :) I appreciate you making such a well thought out video to answer this, it really helps.
@christineapril4679
@christineapril4679 2 года назад
thank you, I've been trying to understand how I need to tweak my tap water for starting a planted tank and this helped a lot!
@jamesdarley8656
@jamesdarley8656 Год назад
This was a great answer Makes perfect sense to me!! I have had this exact issue PH around 6.5 out of the tap (Well water) KH 2or3 GH 3or4 PH Will rise to around 8.5 once it starts gassing out the CO2... But then will drop again given some time running through my systems.... Been a tricky water to use - large water changes are out of the question!!! They absolutely shift enough up then down to kill fish.. Sorted the initial rise out by gassing out the water pre water change... And crushed coral in my systems sump- to be able to add buffing power once the PH drops below 7.... That's still a 1.5 drop in PH but it's gradual.... and with smaller regular water changes manageable😅 But this took ages to figure out!!! Most info I could find wasn't actually dealing with this - it was piecing it together This video was the best info I found!!! Wish I found it sooner!!!
@meganmiller1612
@meganmiller1612 3 года назад
New fish owner here! That helped a little thank you. My kh is 40ppm it said low and my pH is neutral range with 3 platys .I do 1 to 2 small water changes a week in a 10 gallon tank
@meganmiller1612
@meganmiller1612 3 года назад
Is 40ppm ok ?
@theresamcneil3861
@theresamcneil3861 Год назад
Spot on Dan!
@mikearmando
@mikearmando 2 года назад
Excellent presentation.
@John35615
@John35615 2 года назад
Have this situation, and have spent some time trying to understand. It’s all about the search term. LOL Legit explanation, and totally supported by other tidbits I found, as well as my own experience. Thank you! Subscribe!
@charlessloop1552
@charlessloop1552 3 года назад
I believe u explained it pretty well, the fish pull trace elements out of the water witch lowers kh/gh and put out ammonia/co2 both of those will lower ph so either water changes or adding a buffer to match or higher the kh/gh to the amount of ammonia being put into the tank, so things like plants, drift wood, crushed coral things that can help act as a buffer. It still a weird situation need to know if the ph is stable in that tank cause it shouldn’t be but if it is I would like to see the setup
@tinatinm
@tinatinm 3 года назад
Thank you for this video! Subscribed
@jenniegust9982
@jenniegust9982 3 года назад
Thank you..my problem with well water
@zenchemist
@zenchemist 2 года назад
Thanks for making this video. I am always confused about these water measures. Recently, I set up a 125g using my hard tap water (well water) mixed with collected rainwater from my outdoor tanks. I also have a home softener system (salt) but did not use that water. I have an RO system as well, but it only outputs a few gallons a day and isn't useful for my tanks. So I decided to use rainwater, assuming it would be soft, pure water. Well the rainwater pH is actually very high at >7.6 but the KH is low. Hence how I came across this video. Low KH scares me because I have experienced huge pH drops, although it didn't seem to have any affect on the fish. After mixing with tap, the pH is still at >7.6 and the KH is now very high (11 drops). I am using the API master test kit to measure. My question is: What do we consider "soft" water? Low pH, low KH, or low GH? Or all three?
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 2 года назад
Low GH
@corydoraszoneaquatics
@corydoraszoneaquatics 3 года назад
Seems to make sense.
@hafidmahendraputra639
@hafidmahendraputra639 3 года назад
Greeting from indonesia
@dirtyoldfarmhand3
@dirtyoldfarmhand3 3 года назад
Bravo!
@sarahmiller3178
@sarahmiller3178 Год назад
I have problems with rising ph with a stable 4 dkh. Heavily planted tank. Understocked 60 gallons. Would adding liquid carbon daily help keep my ph from creeping up?
@sarahmiller3178
@sarahmiller3178 Год назад
I say heavily planted and understocked = I have 10x as many plants as I do fish. Could it be the lack of carbon as I don't use co2 injections. And i honestly don't want to go that route.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад
No, carbon doesn't affect pH. You need carbonate.
@SophiaB.0519
@SophiaB.0519 Год назад
Would you mind telling us exactly what you use to test your water perameters? I've just lost my fish and I am seriously doubting the reliability and precision of the API drop test kit I have. What do you use that is the most reliable for accurate but also precise readings? Is there a company you can reccommend that you trust? I'm looking into electronic water testers but I am unsure which one to invest my money in.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад
I use API for everything except GH. their GH test is terrible and really hard to read, I use Sera GH test kit now. Sera gH-Test 15 ml : amzn.to/3UcqKyc
@SophiaB.0519
@SophiaB.0519 Год назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly ok thank you. Do you find that the API has a large margin of error? I see so many mixed reviews about this test... maybe mine is just faulty. Then again I do have a 10 gal tank, so maybe thr API is fine for larger tanks but smaller ones need more precise figures since everything happens in a more concentrated way? I appreciate you responding- I dont have anyone to discuss fish tank things with to bounce these idead off of 😅
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад
@@SophiaB.0519 If you're talking about the GH test, the API test is very hard to read, especially at lower hardness.
@dennispeleg7843
@dennispeleg7843 10 месяцев назад
So I have the exact parameters in my tap, kinda. pH 7.6, GH 3, KH 3. If I buffer the GH higher to about a GH of 10, would I be ok with the pH and KH for central american cichlids?
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 10 месяцев назад
You can't buffer the GH. it's the KH that buffers your tank. If you want American cichlids, it sounds like your water is pretty good as is.
@dennispeleg7843
@dennispeleg7843 10 месяцев назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly what about for central american cichlids though? Don't they like harder and more alkaline water than most south american? Ive been using seachem american cichlid salt for raising GH for my firemouth and carpintis cichlids, but I have to buffer with alkaline buffer and salt to raise KH and GH.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 10 месяцев назад
Sorry, I thought you said South American. I missed te "central" part. I don't have any experience but I'd guess that some crushed coral added to the filter or some in the substrate would give you the increased GH and KH.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 10 месяцев назад
Or any form of calcium carbonate, like limestone, Texas Holey rock, or a cuttle bone would be the ame as crushed coral.@@dennispeleg7843
@dennispeleg7843
@dennispeleg7843 10 месяцев назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly lol it's ok. I have crushed coral, I'm just worried of it sending my pH wayyyy high even though I just need the GH and KH up. If I could at least get it to minimum 8-10 on kh and GH, if be happy and hold pH at 7.6 no more than 7.8. just gets to a point where some get tired of buffering agents you know.
@corrymiklos669
@corrymiklos669 Год назад
Could my kh drop if one of my sponge filter’s air stone runs out? I was clearly the two I had out and one of the air stones were basically gone
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад
The stone itself? I don't think the stone itself affects KH.
@Paul-kp8pu
@Paul-kp8pu 2 года назад
In how much time will the ph change from 7.5 to 6.5, in a fully planted aquarium, with no fish.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 2 года назад
I really can't say. There's too many variables. Sorry, i wish I could be more help.
@3abdangry
@3abdangry Год назад
if your substrate is inert thete shouldn't be much change, if you have wood and soil like amazonia or fluval itll drop in 24h because those make water acidic
@Secret-sw8ih
@Secret-sw8ih Год назад
I have a pH of 7.4 & KH of 4 (now 3). What's the solution? I've just added soil substrate to my tank & sand. Should I get driftwood?
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад
I don't know the solution because I don't know the problem. what are you trying to achieve?
@Secret-sw8ih
@Secret-sw8ih Год назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Hi, well I want to slightly lower the PH & raise the KH. I have been informed that raiding the KH will increase the PH. I now know thanks to you & another RU-vid video that KH is the buffer....so what I've done is bought a tiny bit of driftwood in the hope that, seeing as the buffer is currently low, the driftwood may have chance to slightly lower the PH. Not much just a little bit. I'm fairly new to fishkeeping having only got this tank as a rescue (it wasn't wanted any more) so I'm trying my best..done OK so far I think! My water parameters are all good apart from slightly high PH.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад
@@Secret-sw8ih I'd leave the pH alone. A stable pH is much more important than a "perfect" pH.
@Secret-sw8ih
@Secret-sw8ih Год назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly oh, im not sure if I saw your reply. I did buy the small amount of driftwood for the tank, the PH went down to 7 (which I'm happy about for my zebra danios) but the KH also went down to 2'dh. Luckily whatever PH I have is always pretty stable. Yes, I have minimal tiny fish & plants. I've since bought a bigger tank & transferred the fish over to it. I'm considering now getting a couple more fish. I am revisiting your video now & it's made more sense to me upon me viewing again. I need to think hard about the notes I've just made now after watching it. Thanks again. I want the penny to fully drop soon so I really understand it.
@Secret-sw8ih
@Secret-sw8ih Год назад
PS. I only bought a bigger tank because I was told that the one I had adopted was too small for the 3 zebra danios & one shrimp in it. So I felt it was cruel to keep them in there. I now have a 14 gallon tank, which is still fairly small. I did the switch very carefully & any changes I make, I make sure they are SLOW & gradual...
@gregorklaric79
@gregorklaric79 Год назад
Co2 and add oxiden is too very inporten. Hi bubble hi ph. Hi co2 lov ph
@craigquinn8225
@craigquinn8225 3 года назад
I'm the opposite. I've a massive kh and a really low pH.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly 3 года назад
I'll have to think about that one. That doesn't sound right at first thought.
@craigquinn8225
@craigquinn8225 3 года назад
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly ph sits around 6 to 6.5. gh sits around 11/12 and kh around 10. baffled me for a long time
@petery4801
@petery4801 3 года назад
❤👌
@davidsamsell2031
@davidsamsell2031 3 года назад
This is a great explanation, in layman's terms, for items such as (pH, acids, bases, alkalinity, buffering capacity, nitrates). I see a lot of information on the internet that unknowingly intermingles these words, ultimately only further confusing the viewer eader. Really glad to see this presentation on the subject. However, I will say that I am still slightly confused on the nitrate issue, in one way. Being that nitrate is a "conjugate" base of nitric acid. My understanding is the the nitric acid either accepts a negatively charged ion or gives up a positively charged ion, respectively. So will that, in itself, alter the pH? Am in agreement with you on nitrates & their overall affect on fish. Good video. 📊📉📈📉📊 👍📺😎
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