let's unpack gender inclusive makeup 

because she is duh

Must be using the same thing the Queen is using.

@@aisha5156 💀

@@aisha5156 i thought u were referring to the band and i was so confused

Yes! I love how she totally looks like she could be a legit time traveler. 😊

Sometimes I wish I could time travel just so I could see men wearing crop tops again

@@apinchofdisappointment AGREED. And eyeliner! my best friend in the whole world is a VERY gender fluid man. After we graduated high school, he moved out and was able to embrace his fluidity and bisexual self. Him with his freaking belly button pierced and in a crop top was the BEST because I could just tell how mf happy he was/is now!

I see you everywhere on this site! 😊

yes! makeup in the 80s looks so freaking cool! especially the less mainstream looks-THAT to me is actually an example of self-expression almost completely devoid of trying to conform to societal expectations. sure, part of it was an attempt to fit into your own social circles and milieus, but it was also about standing out

@@apinchofdisappointment you should look up kpop. It's happening there. Specifically Kai and Taemin.

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Yepp! I’m a big nail polish collector. I already have the colors from this company. It’s just a gimmick, regardless of how well intentioned. There’s better brands to support that put money towards charity or more eco production

The product itself are gender neutral but not the packaging, marketing and everything else around it. Being gender inclusive is about listening to everyone to make a product line that everyone feel confortable buying.

Right? Drag Queens around the globe have been using makeup and beauty products forever. I doubt this line packaging itself as 'inclusive' is going to inspire them to drop big money because Harry gives it approval.

This is so true! The drag queens Trixie Mattel and Kim Chi both have makeup companies that have these very colorful and femme aesthetics but they're marketed towards everyone regardless of gender. So it's like, those companies don't have to alter their look to try and appeal to everyone; they just make it clear that their products are and should be accessible to everyone. Not some kind of secret marketing spy for Trixie Cosmetics, just a fan of their products

This reminds me of that one father who wanted to return a winter coat he bought for his son because the zipper was put in like for girls' coat and so he would not make his son wear a girls' coat. Just because it zipped differently. It wasn't even a "girls'" color. I didn't even know there was a gendered side for buttons and zipper before then. It's just so ridiculous.

Sometimes there are minor differences like the waistbands being different or buttons on a different side. If you're self conscious, you might think those things will be noticed by others. At least that's my theory.

@@bleuumscarlett7977 oh god so embarrassing 😭

@@hope-cat4894 true, only differences with these tracksuit pants compared to the ones in the men’s section (I went to compare to show him they were just pants) was the price, a working drawstring and the stereotypical lack of pockets 😂

There's a pretty major difference in the way pants are made. I thought that sweatpants were inherently gender neutral and bought a pair of men's sweatpants from Blackcraft. The waistband was too big for my waist, my butt didn't have enough room, so they sat way lower than I am comfortable with, and then there were the THIGHS. OH GOD THE THIGHS were so tight!!! These pants were too big in some places and way too tight in others. They were also (obviously) super super long. Men's and women's pants are different. Even something as simple as sweatpants. I understand that now.

i was once called q-baiting on twitter because am a woman whose style is pretty masculine but then expressed attraction to some men, lol. am bi. some people still can't unlearn their societal teachings (including reading any "masculine" women as lesbians) which is understandable; but it's fucked up when they lash out or accuse people of what they're not without ... y'know, stopping to ask if their assumptions were even correct in the first place.

THANK YOU!!! like.... Actual People are never "baiting" you like that !! it's also wildly unfair for us to even expect everyone to always have their own identities all figured out, let alone give some confident answer publicly?? but yeah, the term is entirely based around the way media corporations can profit off of queer people by stringing us along with crumbs of representation, without risking alienating their sweet little homophobic and transphobic viewers lmfao. also, i am continually shocked by how almost victim-blamey claims of people "queer baiting" irl are?? like... what, this person was promising something to *you*, specifically? oh, because of the way they were dressed? hmm i see... do we not hear what we sound like???

I think some celebrities do do it though. They're selling an image to us after all. Harry styles for example has never publicly dated someone who isn't female and has a very specific type he dates (white, blonde rich). He didnt start with the overtly queer stuff til a few years back (when it became trendy to be queer) and keeps his image ambiguous by saying and doing things that he knows will be viewed as queer. Because he knows queer fans will like it and it will attract more. Makes him 'fit in' with gen Z ideals. If that isn't 'queerbaiting' what really is? Not being rude btw just genuinely wondering. He's making money off of this but doesn't seem to do any of it in his day-to-day. When he's not working its like he's a completely different (straight) person

@@SaffrnE i do kinda understand where you're coming from. but the thing is, how will we ever know what's "baiting" and what's just genuinely someone exploring their identity, who also happens to be hugely in the public eye? it seems like a lot of really calculated weirdness to go through just to try to "tap into" some market? like, some of the most famous "queer icons" in pop music have been explicitly cishet, although i suppose largely women (think Cher, Madonna, Carly Rae Jepsen, etc.), who have vocally supported the lgbtq+ community. so deliberately going for ambiguity while personally feeling confident in a cishet identity feels... odd? exhausting? idk. the point is, we can't (and shouldn't) know everything about celebrities. and they might not know everything about themselves because they're also human and that's totally fine! and it's also their prerogative to not give answers to every question about their identity, because it honestly isn't any of our business. but who are we to say "oh, he's a straight cis man and only does XYZ for queer audiences" ? and again, if he's straight and cis, why can't he just genuinely enjoy participating in gender non-conformity? isn't that a good thing, to have more public role models who perform their gender in anyway outside rigid societal standards? like, i think i had a similar, fairly frustrated initial reaction to Billie Eilish's video where it's a group of women and they're having fun, but also in a way that felt a little sapphic-but-male-gaze-y? along with apparently some ig post captioned "i love women", etc... but like, a) she's young as hell, and maybe she is queer who knows! b) if women wanna be overtly affectionate with one another but platonically, that's fine c) if it feels fetishizing in execution, that might be an issue with the directors etc, and is more a problem with WHY is that type of content marketable in the first place? the issue of lesbians and queer women being objectified by straight men is a huge, societal one - and has a lot to do with misogyny, and the trivialization of women's desires and agency, etc... it's way bigger than one teenage girl's video. idk. while queer identity politics have a lot more mainstream attention now, i think everything is going to be subjected to huge amounts of scrutiny, whether warranted or not. but eventually, as things become more normalized, people will be able to just do things they want. and for anyone who might've been leaning into queer/ambiguous performance for profit, that motive will decrease over time as it becomes more mundane. in the meantime though, IF people are indeed "baiting", our outrage is ALSO profitable, free publicity. maybe, the more we treat shit as "oh, neat. good for them." and simply move on, the faster we might move towards more normalcy.

@@clegs8356 thank YOU for this thorough response. it's legitimately unfair the way a lot of people seem to eager to limit other people's self expression and exploration when they're from a certain group. even if where they're coming from is understandable, that doesn't necessarily mean it's true, and like you said: we never know for sure.

They should also focus on breaking down the barriers by showing and advertising people of all genders just wearing make-up and clothes

@@-Desire That sounds a bit like confusion to me .(just saying)

@@jahirareyes1102 how? /gen Makeup ads with men and andro people in it Men wearing amke up in not related ads and stuff Is that confusing? /gen

@@theworldof11 Because it confuses gender and you reply also confused me.

Or putting that money towards changing how brands pollute

true, people tend to forget you're a person and literally point out everything, even if it didn't bother me before, now that it's out in the sun it's a little annoying as the situation keeps repeating

I understand u , i also have rosacea, but i don't use makeup, at first when i das younger i was so unsure about myself because people would always point out my face colour and that help creates more insecurity in myself, now am more confidence but people still points out my face, its honestly annoying

Proud of you for taking that step! It can be hard, but I promise being able to love and accept your natural face is so worth it

It's all about balance. If a bit of foundation makes your life easier I think that's valid enough - especially when you do it as and when you personally feel like it.

I use my acne as a free litmus test to weed out ppl who are annoying about it. no, im not gonna use makeup just because you are uncomfortable about my skin.

right!!! it ignores all the surgery those people probably had (which is their choice but it should be put out there that it's not natural/realistic for ppl to look 20 at 65). plus it villainizes aging which we really don't need anymore of.

Just so you know ,Harry's products are cruelty free and vegan . The packaging Is also made of recycled materials. So the price makes sense since the products are ethically made and The proceeds go to three different charities

@@hafsaosman6844 but it would prevent to those who cannot afford expensive makeup where you can find it in drugstores. if harry and his team wanted to be more inclusive then the prices would have been lower

@@scorpioj3 Something which is of good quality will always be expensive. And besides , there are people who work for the company who deserve to be paid well and the company still need to profit from their products. They go through so alot in order to produce ethically made products of course they won't sell them at a cheaper price.

@@scorpioj3 idk. Isnt it better a product be 60$ with workers making living wage then drugstore products that are chucked out for 5$ with the workers making next to nothing. If this is specifically being marketed as "ethically made" maybe the price makes sense.

@@hafsaosman6844 yeah and he's like rich so I know of I'm buying Harry's brand it's like a luxury brand

Ok femcel

What a sad life you must have, lmao.

@@lightghost7524 what? They said the truth tho

@@byulharangforlife You are defending a femcel

What hell are the replys

@@thefaceflowers5577 yeah… the only thing you can do is report them, I try to do that to a bunch of them. It’s just weird spam.

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@@pinkbunnyskyedoesthings7762 aww, thanks! :)

@@ImjustAn np my friend

Why necessary tho.Most men i know don't even use make up.

An example of poor people following what the rich want them to do.

@@jahirareyes1102 Because all people should be able to express themselves how they choose to. If everyone followed what society told them to, there would be no creativity and no inventions. There is no shame in men wearing makeup, and perfectly ok if men don't

@@jahirareyes1102 While i agree that capitalism is bad, your example make's no sense. The rich would want man to wear make up, since they would make them spend more money in their products. Most mans just don't wear make up because they don't want to.

@@enzojose4001 yes ,i agree with you a little bit.

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@@nuhaomar9542 true

I mean, even glam rockers watching from a couple decades back.

The fact that tgey think we need their little permission and a special little line with the exact same ingredients as the previous one but a higher price tag because it's "inclusive" lol

Agree. Also, identifying Enlightenment with democracy and liberty is more of a modern view on the movement, based on how some of its ideas influenced the American and French Revolutions. What was emphasized within the Enlightement was reason, but the political views of how reason could be implemented on government varied wildly between the different authors, from Locke or Rousseau's different perspectives on the social contract theory, to Voltaire's support and friendship with absolutist rulers like Frederick II of Prussia or Catherine II of Russia, because he considered a firm central government as the key to implement reforms. Enlightement paved the way to liberalism and bourgeois revolutions, but at its time also supported absolutism.

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I personally think too that the modern day’s strife with makeup “deceiving” people is more so, i guess, subconsciously rooted in Media using Make Up and Plastic Surgery as ways to create a “blemish free” look. Film and TV does it and most people dont know that most productions have their actors (male, female, and all those in and out of the binary) wear it, while most prominent societal figures get botox, collagen, non-surgical and surgical procedures for their faces and bodies. There’s nothing wrong with makeup or plastic surgery imo, but what 20th/21st century media has done was add to the shame and just lack of transparency. If you’re not living in nor immersed in that world then what you see is what you think you’re getting. Also in film and tv there’s also a lack of reality too in some cases with make up (specifically the waking up in bed with a fresh face (unless you were Tammy Faye Bakker lol or have tattooed makeup). I guess that’s with some celebrities too… mind you its none of our business, but some celebrities DO lie when asked if they’ve had work done. The stigma is real and I bet most of the people who slam makeup wouldn’t realize that even some fresh faced celebs or media personalities have gotten work done, even if minimal (Ariana Grande or Jennifer Aniston comes to mind).

i was thinking this too. i wonder what people will look like 30 years from now given all the gender role deconstruction thats taking place today

This is such an optimistic comment about the society we are living in, and how it is changing as we speak. Reading it made me very happy

After having my sexuality questioned because I use skincare products, I don't feel like doing it anymore.

Yeah no. Stop thinking that what you see on social media is real life. Just because you see Harry Styles doing it doesn’t mean all the men are doing it too and no one criticizes it. People did this in the 70s/80s too, so no, it’s not a “new era”.

@@kaitlynzuniga in 30 years nothing is going to change. People did the exact same thing in the 70s???? And even more than now??? And there is no “gender deconstruction” happening. People are only reinforcing it. Creating more genders is not “deconstructing gender”.

100% agree. plus, i think criticizing a real person for queer baiting is kind of... inherently a flawed argument? like u do not know whether or not harry styles is queer, only he does! real people can't queer bait. he could be in the closet for all we know, or he could be straight as a ruler, but either way i don't think it's anyone's place to make definitive claims about the sexuality of someone u do not know and probably never will.

@@mayarae6272 so true!!

absolutely!!! the treatment as if gender non-conformity is some sort of an exclusive club that once you're in, you're in forever is just Not The Vibe and pretty counter-productive, imo. instead of seeming interesting and encouraging to others, it ends up looking like some sort of a lifelong commitment that might sway people initially wanting to experiment away.

@@mayarae6272 but he is not only a "person" He is a huge celebrity, so his name, his face, his style, all of it is a brand in our capitalist celebrity-obsessed society. There are marketing strategies to literally sell the brand, himself. Haven't you heard of pinkwashing? Q-baiting is a word created by LGBTI people to illustrate how marketing use us to sell, it's exactly the same for him. He is a brand, a star. Not only for playing ambiguous with his sexuality to attract everyone, and lgbti youth but he is also dressing up gender non conformably only in magazines or shows, aka the promotional stuff, but when does he do all of that in real life? He is selling on the back of LGBTI youth, but people are so celebrity obsessed that even the concerned ones don't even see a problem. But they aren't valid because they aren't educated AT all on the subject. They aren't activists, the ones that are fighting for our lives. It's sad.

Yes, because nonbinary people decided to uphold a strict idea of gender where only the most feminine people are women and the most masculine people are male.

same. i even wore it at home all the time. my skin got commented on other vice. i'm very comfortable in my naked skin now in my 20's. it get's better

I really understand the envy of girls who can go natural or wear little makeup - how do you get over that jealousy? I haven't gotten over that yet.

@@Elvirannn it's so scary to see the influence everyone else has on us but I am genuinely so glad to hear that you feel comfortable now

@@Bloodredsummerr Honestly, it took A LOT of time. I started off by stop using makeup I didn't feel was completely "necessary". For example, my eyebrows are naturally dark so I eliminated that part out of my makeup routine. However, I struggled with acne so I still used concealer. Another thing I did was take care of my skin, this helped a lot because I realized my biggest insecurity (my acne) was caused because of how much makeup I wore constantly. I realized I admired everyone's beauty except my own. I know it is much easier said than done and I would be lying if I said there is a quick fix but loving yourself is the ultimate goal. Till this day I still have acne and dark spots. My skin is far from perfect but I am okay with it because I know I take care of my skin and I am a teen so having perfect skin 27/4 is an unrealistic standard. Hope this helps, sending you much love

Girl, good for you! 💕 You deserve to feel comfortable. thank you for your perspective on this!

@@honkhonk3192 thanks 🙏🏼 appreciate it ☺️

If we are liberating all women of imposing beauty and grooming standards, so be it for ALL WOMEN and FEMMES! I love shaving and be softy as a personal way of presentation for me and the way fabrics feels against my skins. You do you, all power girl! :)

Such an important point!!!

I completely agree! It's pretty disappointing.

Capitalist inclusivity doesn't include poor people nor the global south

This

Agreed! Also watching SimplyNailogical's video on his polishes... I doubt it's even worth that price if all of them like that.

Karolina Zebrowska has several videos explaining all of that! I suggest taking a look through her channel bc her videos are really informative and interesting

@@pauwula Thank you!!!

not really All over the world tbh..

it's annoying, it's like they're dressing him for fetishization. Another example of someone who truly embodies feminine clothing out of professional shoots is probably Yeonjun Choi (a Korean idol) who always wears quite androgynous clothing and recently bought skirts for himself to wear. I wish femininity wasn't capitalized like they're doing w harry. It's annoying lol

I don't think he wants to get bullied outside and feel like shit when he gets home. He doesn't like to be seen and a man wearing a dress outside is not discreet.

@@onlyangel1845 well who should care about that ?? Gender clothing norms are shit and Harry or anyone should be able to wear stuff like that without ridicule which is another point that has to be made.

I love Jaden's fashion! But i think that's a little unfair to say. Why is there anything wrong with one's gender expression being different in daily life versus during a performance? For instance, I'm agender, and I would never go to the grocery store in anything else but trousers and a sweatshirt, but if there's a party or something special i might wear a glamorous dress (or a three-piece-suit). Maybe he's more comfortable expressing his femimine side when he's empowered on stage or doing a photoshoot, and less when paparazzi are invading his daily life. Even if what you imply is that feminity is a costume to him, what's wrong with a bit of drag? Actually it's interesting because Lil Nas X recently tweeted something like "if i want to dress like an anime girl on stage and not in my daily life that's my business"

@@nongshimrizzforce omg yes yeonjunnnnn ending that white man

Right and men skin care has some awful fragrance and is full of alcohol 😒

Men's skincare makes me cringe so hard. Saw a 3in1 facewash in the bathroom which I share with my brothers 🤢 . A lot of "Women's" skincare is very much just gender neutral.

as a minimalist, i really had to unpack my need to say that. my new habit is saying natural, ethereal or subtle makeup & my relationship with it is a lot calmer now lol

I don't really agree. I can see how marketing can be problematic in this area, but I don't think all "no makeup" trends are harmful. For me, I suffered with moderate acne for almost 20 years and had to use heavy makeup to cover it so that I had the confidence to leave the house without being stared at for my acne. Now that I have clear skin it actually feels liberating to be able to just wear a little makeup and enjoy my skin and all the hard work I put into getting it clear.

That's how I feel everytime I see a Glossier advertisement tbh

@@DimaRakesah I'm not saying all "no makeup" are bad, myself I haven't worn a full face of makeup in my life. I'm saying the marketing of "you have to be perfect even without makeup" is a problem bc then people who used makeup to hide their insecurities are now being targeted by this and the fact that you felt like you needed to have clear skin to wear less makeup it's exactly what I'm criticizing here. Everyone should be good to wear whatever they want, but it's not really just a trend, its a way of making people feel more insecure and further away from a perfection that, obviously, doesn't exists naturally for everyone.

@@Lunessy Its all marketing they can say good or bad of all the options "natural makeup reveal your true beauty" or "natural makeup is harfmull because idealize perfection" or "you can use a full mask of makeup because its art expression" or "hide your face behind makeup create unrealistic expectation of what you look like". To be honest is the first time in my life I saw anyone critize natural makeup, I think they realize they can sell more if people wear tons of everything in their face.

And how most 4th gen boygroup getting wilder with their makeup game like gems, sparkling makeup, gloss, eyeliner game, i forgot that sometimes most of the world still have that fragile stereotype about makeup

@@PutriHaki-k4f Right we are so normalized to it that it shocks us the outside world is still so fragile about it

And yet. Korea is still wildly misogynistic. Leading me to the point that nothing helps men.

I will say, the one thing that bothers me specifically about the makeup men wear in kpop is that it is often lighter than their skin tone, effectively whitewashing them irl. It's sad :/

@@Maialeen I think you mean misandrist

Harry has shown his support for the lgbt community & black community by holding up flags given to him at concerts. I hope he does more action than symbolism

@Leandro Martinez I can agree with that to an extent because I think it’s just at the point of dismantling toxic masculinity at a very basic level. And I think that we as a society accept the basic level too often. So for me, I’d have to see him or anyone else in his position as a cis white man go beyond that.

@@thatlilgal I agree! Symbolism is great of course but for someone to be the face of a movement I need to see much more that that.

@@thatlilgal I agree that symbolism is important and harry doing that at concerts is a way to open up these conversations but simply holding a flag up at his concert doesnt actually do very much for these communities. There are better and more effective ways to support these communitiies which would be veerrryyy easy for a millionaire

I disagree with this - it’s no one’s responsibility to be an activist just because they’re in the spotlight. Ppl should be allowed to focus on just one aspect of a topic or movement that effects them or moves them without pressure that they aren’t doing enough. If a celeb just wants to speak out regarding wearing makeup or a woman regarding one aspect of feminism and that’s it then that’s fine. Social media has given to many ppl the feeling that they are owed social activism from anyone with a following regardless of whether that person wants to take on such a heavy role or if they’re emotionally, intellectually equips to do so.

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This portrays my feelings on the subject very well :) Another afab enby here. I like "feminine" clothing and stuff, but hate the notion of people immediately seeing me as a woman if I wear it...

That is so true, god I hate that. My heart goes out to you! Is there any way you can give your pronouns to people without them needing to ask? like, I once saw they/them earrings, maybe there's also a version with he/him if that's something you'd be into? I know that many genderfluid people like to use bracelets but I guess most people won't notice those right away in surface level interactions.

Oh I feel you! I'm AMAB nonbinary and through my transition ended up passing as female all the time. Thing is, now to "look" nonbinary, I have to go for that bland AFAB nb look, short hair, no makeup and so on. And that's so boring! Can I just express both my femininity and my masculinity as I want and still be viewed as authentic? Ugh.

@@rikaniebangbang Yes! This also! If any article of clothing is ever labeled "unisex" or otherwise non-gendered, they are usually bound to be a bland colorless not form-fitting t-shirt or something... I want colors and pizzazz! :'D Although I guess if I combine enough layers of both "feminine" and "masculine" clothes... Hmm :D If I were more into design and clothing manufacturing, I'd love to have a clothing store that has all kinds of styles, casual, suits, dresses, anything, just that all items have two or three options on the preferred body type. Like, it's the same piece of clothing, just cut to fit a more masculine or feminine body? :) And then you could choose according to your preferences :D

This is exactly why my fashion has started skewing towards the 60s/70s mens wear aka the Peacock Revolution. Its “masculine” but fun!

I generally agree, but I will say that clothes to some degree are not “gender inclusive”. As a large trans person, I want to wear “men’s” clothes, but I can’t. Even in big and tall sections, nothing fits my hips. The ONLY option are either “women’s” clothes which don’t come in the cuts that I want, OR a very small handful of stores that specifically make these cuts for people with hips (which is most often women). Obviously that’s a body thing more than a gender thing (I’m not a woman!) but on a structural level it ends up being about gender-I have two choices, pants marketed towards women or pants marketed without gender.

this!!!!

@@Megan-hu5is Is the issue that its not marketed towards you, or that you can’t find the product you are looking for? To me- this is still about capitalism. It sounds like you are looking for a very specific cut and style of pants that most major retailers wouldn’t find profitable to produce unless it was a part of the trend cycle. You’ll have to do what anyone does who wants a particular style of clothing to fit their unique body type- which is either create your own clothing or tailor your clothing. It’s not fair, but capitalism isn’t meant to be fair. It’s meant to respond to market demand and create a profit.

@@ariesmry Huh? I didn’t say it wasn’t about capitalism. I said that, even if clothing isn’t inherently gendered, societal structures limit clothes to certain types of bodies based on assumptions about gender, which ends up reinforcing narrow understandings of gender.

yes

i completely agree - it’s so impressive !!

I just have to say I really feel that eye roll! When a man says "I prefer women who do this" with that expectation that women should change to meet his preferences it's really demeaning. Your preferences don't dictate how other people should style themselves. I also feel like in regards to makeup it comes with an inherent message of "I am entitled to a naturally beautiful woman" as if women have any say in if they were born pretty enough for you? Like we should somehow be able to change how naturally beautiful we are without using makeup? It's just so cringe.

@@DimaRakesah that’s it exactly! When people say to me they don’t like makeup I say that’s fine, so don’t wear it. You can’t dictate to me what I do. A prospective romantic partner telling me not to wear makeup is going to put me off more than anything.

Makeup can't be inclusive of anything because it does not have a consciousness. People can be inclusive of guys wearing makeup, but the vast majority are not.

@@DimaRakesah Do you also eye roll when women state their preferences?

I don't really see what you're confused by. If you want your brand to be pink and sparkly and girly then go for it. People who like that will enjoy your brand. Other brands go for a different style that is more gender neutral cause that's what some people like. To each their own.

@@DimaRakesah you right, you right.

yes but im sure your marketing doesnt have "for women/girls" splashed all over it like things that are pink usually do. its the specifically marketing to a gender that people are commenting on

It should be, but that's not how it is right now. Binary gender roles have been so ingrained in people, that some don't even consider a product that doesn't seem to be "for them". So while a person who has realized they like pink sparkly stuff and it has nothing to do with their gender will love buying these things, a traditional manly man type guy won't because it is feminine coded. Gender neutral marketing can be a way of showing people makeup can be for them too, without triggering all their "not for me" feelings. It sure is the most capitalist approach possible but I'm pretty sure "makeup for men" and "makeup for people who like pink and sparkles and everything feminine" has very different customers.

@isychia yeah funnily enough in earlier times the pink blue dynamic used to favor pink for boys and blue for girls just goes to show how arbitrary it all is. Colors are for everyone! Also please post a link lol I want sparkly cute pink cosmetics

I have allergies to phameldayhydes and ameldahydes which is in alot of makeup and purfumes. I cant wear it at all. So I have no idea what I look like with makeup.

Damn talk to text really fucked me up here LOL hopefully you get what I’m trying to say

Sure. Just convince most women to stop being sexist about guys wearing makeup and maybe they will. Frankly I stopped caring, and whenever a woman asks if I'm gay I just shrug my shoulders or reply "absolutely".

I agree, my personal opinion he just does what he wants because he likes it. He really just minds his business and is like “hey for the people who feel different I see you and you matter” idk what people expect from this man he is just a human being at the end of the day. At least he’s trying? Idk

If anything the charged responses, both positive and negative, to him wearing 'feminine' clothes is the point. It's so weird that people hype him up so much or hate him for queerbaiting or 'ruining' traditional masculinity

May I challenge you and say that…he’s pandering?

Honestly he seems to wear what he wants and experiment. It's really cool.

odd how ur insinuating that queerness = progressive

I buy women's products all the time, without complaining. What is my secret?

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@@mcchilde2903 Thank you 🥺

Femcel conspiracy theories are pretty new tho

Zeitgeist, borrowed from the German equivalent

@@liamquirk8001 Thank you! I google translated it, but zeitgeist just didn't felt right.. Glad to hear google translate didn't trick me (:

Mainstream examples of gender non-conformity help push the zeitgeist in a positive direction. As a pretty feminine presenting man living in a rural area, I appreciate that there's a growing precedent of male celebrities defying gender norms, regardless of the "risks" they're personally taking.

Wearing makeup means frauding your looks. Every woman (and man) should embrace the natural look imo

@@sweetbunny6198 you do realize we can take off makeup? That argument is as dumb as employers refusing someone for their clothes... At a place with uniforms. We can wear makeup, our face is under it'll be back tomorrow

Mostly i do also have clear skin privilege, any on times when that isnt a thing for me i sometimes use concealer. But sometimes im like fuck it! I have zits, like every other adult gets! Why hide them? I can be a goth vampire babe with zits, or a 20s siren with zits or an e girl with zits... Anyone that cares about hiding zits probably already hates my over the top make up anyway, so fuck them!

Ayy, otra persona más de Buenos Aires que mira a Mina Le, wow 😮 Saluditos jaja 💜