@@Abdul-wahaabKhalil tell me you know nothing about bleach without telling me you know nothing about bleach lmfaooo, not surprised its the kid with the sharingan pfp driding madara.
@@pxllfx3207 no because until heart is destroyed his immortalty will stop and since truth seeking orbs can nullify regen factors his heart where aizen's immortality is at so if madara hits it and since both powers are the some what simalar aizen can't regen his heart so his immortality is nullifed
@@zhongkang6777 Aizen literally lectured Ichigo on how he manipulated his entire journey since birth to get to where he is now just to see how strong he would be, and how weak he would still be compared to himself. He would say that just to fuck with Madara.
@@_Legendary__ he legit shook the universe in ssj god and in ultra instinct goku beat jiren who was stronger then universe 11s god of destruction a god of destruction is able to destroy entire universes so if goku beat jiren who was stronger then a g.o.d then thus he is universal plus watch or read dragon ball before ya say something like that
@@zerotheplug you just don’t understand how the hogyoku and aizens immortality works. He can literally come back from his entire existence being erased. Destroying his soul means nothing. They already did that to him in bleach and he just comes back. And his regeneration can’t be stopped because it’s not regeneration, it’s a fulfilled wish for immortality that he has merged with. He is literally guaranteed to never die from anything ever which is why they instead have to imprison him and even while imprisoned and having his power sealed he still gains strength exponentially to where he would eventually just be able to free himself without even doing anything. The power of his existence would be enough to break his seal. Aizen is Dr Manhattan level strong.
@@elpopman2055 kaguya made 6 timespaces and could destroy them. They showed the first form ten tails power on screen as a small planet. You must not have watched naruto
I stopped at Ben Ten Vs Green lantern. As they gave green Lantern all his abilities from every universe. But not Ben Ten his ultimate alien form control.
I love the part where they state that Madara has the ability to damage Aizen by tso. But never give any reason how Madara could survive Aizen's attacks that clearly target the soul.
@@E_E69and Aizen can vaporize souls on impact with his strongest attack. Pain only had that power through the Rinnegan and it's power to allow him to summon the King of Hell to do so. None of that gives his soul protection of any kind from attacks like that. And even if he did have a defense that could work, the gap in power is so vast, Aizen could one shot him with shit like Black Coffin.
Death Battle isn't bias anymore. They did research and actually know how to debunk statements that are never proven true. Bleach fans just say that because they're salty about it (no offense, I like bleach too).
@@kadinhausman2584 bro aizen is LITERALLY immortal, madara isnt even fully immortal at his peak, plus he has kyoka suigetsu which is an auto matic dub but he doesnt even have to use it, he can just use black coffin and its gg
@@GeoX242 Truth-Seeking Orbs cam nullify both Black Coffin and Aizen himself. And he can break out of Kyoka Suigetsu with the Sharingan, with no exception of him getting back in.
Who even thinks Death Battle is legit the "end all be all" authority to if a character is stronger than another? Most of the defense they're getting only comes from the fans of the character that won.
SOMEONE GETS IT! And another thing, Aizen has so much power that the GOD OF THE 3 WORLDS says he can SENSE NO END TO HIS POWER. Seriously, Aizen is also fucking immortal and will always come back, there is 0 ways to actually stop him now, bar becoming the Soul King just to.slap his ass back into the chair or delete all of reality to remove Aizen
I get the feeling that if Madara were actually trying to destroy everything instead of the eye of the moon plan he probably could. I'm pretty sure Madara could just use Izanagi to make Aizen not real, literally removing him from existence.
@@jamescasto3114 Thing is Aizen gets erased from existence on a cellular level from Mugetsu and still comes back besides nothing states that the izanagi can even erase people.
@jamescasto3114 remember a fun fact. In bleach's verse Aizen tanked a tech that was (at that point in time) a sure kill from two hits simply because his spiritual pressue was stronger, and that was before the hogokyu awakened. I highly doubt madara on a spiritual level can contest aizen. So he would shrug off izanagi.
Biggest thing that disproves that Madara had even a chance to beat Aizen is two facts. This one is more so that Madara likely could not beat his illusions. Aizen managed to trick Ywach who, to those who don't know, can see *every timeline at once* and Aizen *still swerved him with his illusions* Second. Truth seeking orbs destroying matter/erasing it doesn't matter. The soul society already has a move that does that, they literally used it on Grimjow, that blue flame technique *erases things at a spiritual level and beyond.* And they never even *thought* to use it on Aizen cause it *wouldn't have mattered.* It's also a super basic move to them! Aizen wins low diff, even if Madara had the six paths mode.
Also, the only reason truth seeker orbs even neg the Regen of a Edo is because they neg ninjutsu. A Edo tensi is literally a ninjutsu, so that argument can’t even be used 💀 that just them taking shit out of context
@@s4g3sncere dude if the thing only negated Ninjutsu then why didn't the effects nullify every single Edo tensei that was on the battle, it doesn't simply do that it literally vaporizes them.
@@faith4657 That liter the description of the Truth seeker orbs 🤷🏽♂️ Go read the manga, it’s not the only thing it CAN do it’s a application upon man other users. Plus they were used multiple times on multiple of the Edos that got hit by the Orbs {Armless Mineto, or when Huriezen basically was blown from his upper half so on} it’s just a simply more complex Justus than fire style fire ball. Hints why I brought it up, it’s a mis-conceptation it’s neg regeneration even though it’s clearly says manga it isn’t but hey 🤷🏽♂️
@@s4g3sncere yeah like I said before you don't know that though. It's literally nullifying every single one of their s*** he can't regenerate for s*** and both his spiritual and physical arms are gone. Only reason it wasn't able to affect hiruzen was due to the fact that it wasn't complete, and it was by an incomplete obito. Because if it didn't nullify regeneration and it just simply nullified jutsus then why didn't it remove and nullify the entire edo tensei completely. That's the only question I have for you.
@@saiba726 they have illusion resistance to charkra based illusions. Kyoka Suigetsu is perfect hypnosis with no way to break out of it even if yk you're in it. It even affected all timelines ywach saw
Yeah, there's a lot of proof that Death Battle is always biased. Then there's the times where they research wrong. Like Genos vs Rhodie, they were justifying Rhodie taking the dub using TONY'S feats. Despite not having the same suits at all. Then there's a constant problem with incorrect power scaling. It was the same case with my Naruto vs Ichigo. They don't know wtf they're doing
@@correlgamers7518 not exactly. See, as far as I know, Tony has the most yo to date suits while Rhodie gets hand-me-downs, which he customizes accordingly. So while yes, they do have the same technology, Rhodie's suits are more outdated than Tony's, which is a huge variable if you're gonna use Tony in place of Rhodie to show feats
I'm sorry but Genos doesn't take it anyway even with direct War Machine feats. Genos, at his absolute best, is literal power up counted in 10 fucking seconds which makes him (somewhere below that) scale to continental due to Psycho-Orochi fusion and then gets clapped again even like that. War Machine literally needs durability stat to win in this case before Genos breaks on itself.
In Naruto vs Ichigo they had him go Mugetsu, something he can't do at will, even tho he already went True Bankai + Horn of Salvation. They did say they did it purely for entertainment puproses. I still like Death Battle, but they clearly don't respect all verses equally. They even said they did the research for Naruto vs Ichigo with the intent of having Naruto win. They said all of this on DB Cast years ago.
@@sharavy6851technically he can use the technique at will, it is just not as strong as he is at the end of the series. To gain the ability to use it, he had to beat White and Zangetsu merged, and did so, therefore he still can use that power if he so chose, but never did again because he knew there was likely no way to regain his powers like he did and knew they would still need him to help fight.
Bleach scaleing is fucking crazy its just most peaple who do these vs battles don't seem to fully understand how it works since there aren't like a bunch of data books for bleach so to actually accurately scale these characters you gotta watch the whole show and read the manga
Yeah you don’t really see his strength within fights you see it in statements. We don’t really see large scale attacks in fights but we do see stuff like ichigo being able to destroy what is equivalent to a universe if not more lol.
@@TheIncrediblyBoredOne idk about the universe scaleing attack I feel like alot of those statements about that are referring to like pocket dimensions and the world still like planet to multiplanetary feats but universe buster seams like an outlier with no other characters being capable of stuff like that but what do I know mybe ichigo just a giga Chad bleach scaleing gets updated like every few months different metas and shit
@@shadowlightx9441in the feats they use the word Sekai for the universal arguments when asked . Sekai can mean"world;society;universe) but contextually, Sekai more so means world in our view due to things such as Yamamoto’s bankai being contextually referring to a planet, given it affects moisture in the atmosphere, and Soul King’s death visibly only affecting land masses alongside a description of causing a powerful earthquake on Earth.
Everytime someone says Chakra = Reiatsu I wanna smack them. First of all, reiatsu is the pressure of spirit energy, not spirit energy itself. Secondly, Reiryoku (actual spirit energy) is the power of the soul itself. Chakra is a mixture of physical stamina and mental energy, hence why studying can improve how much chakra you have. Because it has nothing to do with your actual soul. Same applies whenever someone mentions "Truth Seeker Orbs negate regeneration!" They do not. They are highly damaging offensively and they disrupt any non-sage jutsu they touch. They negate the regeneration of Edo Tensei zombies because that's part of the jutsu that maintains them. Against a normal person, they're not going to negate healing. Aizen is actually immortal. Not simply hard to kill, total immortality. To the extent that having his entire chest cavity turned to dust didn't even slow him down.
2 months ago and no narutard appearing thats a new record cause if you say the same thing but in death battle comment section you would just be replied with some random narutard nonsense
@AvarageGamingGamer I don't drink nearly enough to want anything to do with Death Battle and I don't do nearly enough meth to want anything to do with their comment section
@@MurasakiTsukimaruaizen can literally do the same and he does it when he can in the invasion arc and people still dick ride that Madara will win just cause there childhood show is naruto
It is even stated later on in the novels that there are advanced kido techniques that can literally erase you from existence, there is Yamamoto ryujinjaka, possibly a weapon to replace sokyoku, Suzumebachi that can double click you off of existence , urahara that can disable the properties of your spiritual pressure given the time to analyse and they still couldn’t kill him and even when they did he just evolved again and again , his mere reatsu could go from soul society into a garganta into the soul king palace in another dimension 😂😂 nah aizen is just on another level and let’s not forget in his transcended form he can use all forms of kido with any formulation before hand , so he can just seal you by looking at you , warp time and space with the 90 Hado technique and teleport as seen with unohanas lieutenant in soul society arc , on top of that all his attack affects all structures of your soul , i love me some Madara but by the gods aizen is just too op
to be honest, in the past, there was ONE PERSON doing the research, Jocelyn. And this was a character in the past before the animated characters were a thing. And from the Desk of Death Battle videos, she does the research NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO.
I love One Piece way more than Bleach and Naruto combined but it is the lowest scaling of any of them in terms of power. The absolute top tier in OP can destroy an island with one attack. The absolute top tier in Naruto (not counting Boruto cuz I never watched/read it) can slice a goddamn moon with one attack. The absolute top tier in Bleach are so strong that they cause earthquakes in multiple dimensions with just the weight of their power.
Same thing with ben 10 vs green lantern they didnt let alien x do anything to twist reality or knowto travelback in time and removed the omnimatrixs defences at the end
Even if ben turned into alien x it wouldn't have helped but alien x literally can't do anything unless all of his personalities agree on something and if you watch the show you know ben can't get alien x to agree on anything because the personalities are always arguing over the stupidest shit.
@@popcultureguru9649 yes 1 he was given permanent control 2 before you say he wouldnt know the watch would have used clockwork to send him back as the ai of the onlitrix is kinda all knowing
"The Truth Seeking Orbs can erase souls!" ...All it did was take a dude's arm and his arm was still missing when he died and his soul was coming out...
Funniest thing is that the Truth Seeking Orbs being able to target souls puts in on the level of. . . The most standard attacks Bleach has to offer. Mugetsu, Getsuga Tensho, Black Coffin, ALL Hado spells, and the bind spell Rukia hit Ichigo with in the FIRST FUCKING EPISODE! They're all soul targeting attacks because they're attacks being used by and against SOUL REAPERS and HOLLOWS. Dead things. Spirits. Ghosts. But no. Apparently Aizen is weak to the entire Bleach power system.
Death battle did do research, on madara. The whole section explaining madara is super detailed and they skip like 90% of aizens powers and story and completely fail to get his powers or scale him properly
@@RiseStreamer if you think you were mad at that I was PISSED!!! Like seriously ain't no way Naruto would win against Kurosaki Mugetsu would have sent his ass flying
My man shinigamis are already 4d beings. When he fused with hogyuko he bacame a 5d being thats why captain level shinigami like kisuke,isshin and yoruichi couldnt detect his power. And dangai ichigo is a 6d being thats way aizen couldn't detect his reiatsu. After the last fusion aizen also became a 6d being but mugetsu is a 7d attack. That's why aizens body was destroyed but quickly recovered because of the hogyuko.
@@Shani-mb8ht no Aizen literally explains that humans are 2d beings while hollows and Shinigami are 3d beings, and the hogyoku allowed him to evolve to a 4d being
@@Shani-mb8htDo you know how anime works? Aizen literally says in the anime that it is understood that humans are 2d and hollows and Shinigami are 3d it don't make sense I know but its also a god damn cartoon Cancel Reply
Death battles got some sort of hard on for Naruto cause ngl Obito vs Vader Madara vs Aizen Both of these battles were bs when they gave Naruto characters the win
Some people say “Madara is MFTL 🤡”when Azien is above that I hate when people scale other characters with their feats without showing the other person’s feats.
i like how naruto fans are like "the truth seeker orbs attack your soul" as if that's not every single attack in bleach to begin with, the truth seeker orbs are basically just a low level kido
Tell me a about it🤣🤣 I've read that line in every argument on why Madara would win for so long i can chant it by heart And the dude still wouldn't win like seriously what do they think immortality means?🤦🤔🤣
EXACTLY! Just because something can effect you doesn’t make it automatically work on you. We saw Goku get hurt by a stone throw when he’s off guard. So stones effect him. That doesn’t mean he loses to anyone with a stone.
@@matthewcarreras1904 I mean come on upgrade could have beat green lantern cause the ring is technology and upgrade could’ve destroyed it from the inside
@@matthewcarreras1904 Because death battle never even thought of it as an option even though the lantern rings are just advanced alien tech and upgrade can control technology
@@shamsherchaudhry7901 Maybe they did but considered other variables such as Ben not knowing that the ring was technology or Green lantern being fast enough to not get hit by hit anyway...
Im going to make it clear that this isn’t me saying madara beats aizen or aizen beats madara, because i legit don’t care who beats who and nor do i want to know the reasons why they won. But i want to say that death battle has said multiple times they take their fighters peak and most powerful incarnations in each fight so that’s probably why they gave madara six paths
The problem is that they did the same thing with Ben where they straight up just ignore the fail safe on the omnitrix that would protect Ben from dying. They use their greatest incarnation whenever they feel like it
@@coldheartedbeast6168 still the death battle was wrong the comment above mention that they use the strongest form of the character then why did they not use the tybw aizen or even better the game aizen that is outright boundless
Yeah, Death Battle really don’t know what they’re on about. And I love how he never even mentioned the Perfect Hypnosis either. Something that you cannot escape or get rid of ever in your life. Being a Rinnegan user does not mean you get to escape that either. If Sasuke got caught in Inf Tsukuyomi he wouldn’t be able to escape, he could only predict then resist the effects by casting a shadow over Team 7 which made them immune as long as they didn’t see the light. Aizen would’ve definitely stomped Madara and if he couldn’t he would’ve evolved eventually to be able to. As they said the Hyogeoku could grant wishes and allowed Aizen to evolve away his previous weaknesses. Plus he was able to survive multiple things people thought would kill specifically him but he just tanked them all and kept surviving. Eventually ending up stronger than he did fighting Ichigo.
The Ben 10 vs Green Lantern fight made me feel the same way as this one, if not worse. That fight legit stopped me from from watching any battles for a long time. Before that fight, I used to watch each death battle on release.
"Truth seeking orbs attack the soul." aka 99% of every single attack in Bleach that makes Truth Seeking orbs look like nothing more than glorified baseballs.
@@neburbradley8194 i love all my bros that wrong admit they are wrong..or missed some part of it..😁 Yeah me personally aizen are completes different beings...he one of the strong andd genius character that calculated everything...but in the bleach universe...kisuke urahara genius top aizen genius..and what aizen despise is being who had the chances to become much greater refuses to become one...imagine someone blessed with a genius mind..and decide to work as janitor...or at fast food restaurants.. Madara are fighter and still inteligent being...but he learn it in the hard way and still be manipulated by the zetsu...sure its super hard to noticed something like that...but he always focused what is infront him all the time..while aizen anticipated anything that come to him...even the most closest one to him...gin ichimaru...the things that he accepting is only a hyogouku..and the reason he stops evolving to higher being caused he doubted..his heart arw doubting his choices...thats when hyogouku starts shut it down as aizen will no longer there...even ichigo stated he feels sorry for aizen...because with all that power...inside he didnt feels satified or happy...but feeling lonely..that kinda sad.. So i think that aizen actually can escaped from that prison but choose not too..caused soul society is his home..and suround by people make him feels alived...even if he can escaped...he choose not too...and probably his motivation deplets after being defeated by ichigo...his motivation is become a god..or like soul king...but as we can see..soul king are alived but just an empty soul...cant speak,eat,sleep or do anything...ao probably aizen lost his motivation after knowing that...
I agree that Aizen wins more times but it'll be unfair to not give madara the ten tails while giving Aizen the hogyoku. Especially when Aizen *also* had alot of prep time aswell, he only managed to make half of the full hogyoku which also had prep time.
Hogyoku literally gave him perfect immortality that's the only reason he is still alive in bleach you can delete every atom of his being and aizen can just show back up 10 mins later like unless you can erase him from reality so that he literally doesn't exist of seal him away literally can't die
Don't forget that he's so strong the only way they're actually able to keep them contain is by causing a feedback loop of his own power yes he's kept in check by his own power.
@@reptilez5798 no when we find him in the thousend year blood war arc he's still fused to it and it made his zampokto transcendent so it's fused to his being rather than just being like a sword kinda like mugetsu ichigo we also know he kept the immortality since the soul society can't kill him and the sokiyoku can delete you from reality and he just came back sitting in his chair
Death Battle has two types of battles: "We're picking the one who would obviously lose to generate word of mouth" and "We're picking the fan favorite because the fandom is big enough we're scared of them."
I saw this question a lot , and I didn't know who was Aizen was , because I didn't watch bleach , but know that I know who he his , I can say R.I.P Madara
nigga don't forget it was Kisuke who made the Higyoku and Aizen also had to do alot of prep to get it.And you haven't even given any reason why Aizen would win.The fact that the Hogyoku abandoned Aizen after he fought with Ichigo means it could do the same against Madara.And please tell me where it is stated that Mugetsu was meant to kill Transcendent beings.So my point is if you want to debate this take Madara without the Ten Tails and Aizen without the Hogyoku
Dude aizen made a hogyoku as well both kisuke and aizen made 1 and aizen stole kisukes and merged the 2 to create the perfect one that is used in the anime which fuses and becomes one with aizen to the point that it can never be severed
