Lexus RCF vs Mustang GT: $70k Japanese Muscle And $35k American Muscle [Wheel2Wheel] 

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Didn’t even bring up the interior of the Lexus. That interior on the RCF is 🙌🏽

Not to mention 70k can get you in a GT350 or base model 20 GT500

GSF owner here. I checked out the 5.0 GT while I was considering a GT350. One look at the forums was enough for me. Forums are of course subjective, but for the GT the sheer number and consistency of the issues (e.g. the A10 trans, engine issues) was unlike anything I’ve seen. $45k is used RCF territory. I paid $49k for my GSF. Go look at those forums. Bulletproof.

I own a s550 5.0 but honestly if I had the money I’d rather own the Lexus for its reliability and quality

It’s all about your preference though, everyone on here talkin about “ I can make more power with the Stang, and still be cheaper than the Lexus.” Which is true. Some people prefer speed and etc. , but there’s people that are about class. There’s reasons why people buy Lambos, which is expensive as shit for cars that runs low 10s or high 9s in a 1/4 mile. When there’s the ZR1, GT500, Dodge Demon, or the Ford GT that runs faster time for cheaper.

Give me the Lexus any day of the week.

I’d rather have the Lexus. I love mustangs, don’t get me wrong. But that Lexus is gorgeous.

We’ve had 5 Mustang GTs over the years from ‘99 to 2016... have an RCF now, they’re similar in concept but very different in execution. Love em Both though. Buy what you want and enjoy the hell out of it.

This guy has it backwards mustangs were pony cars before they were muscle cars.

Why in every conversation when comparing cars. Someone says “ I will just slap a supercharger or a turbocharger and have 700 to 800 hundred horsepower. Really if you think that’s all you have to do. You apparently have NO IDEA. What you’re talking about.

Great unbiased review. Nail on the head about numbers vs package.

Eh, I love the noise that coyote makes. Sounds even more amazing when long tube headers are on it.

Excellent video and insights into the driving experience and characteristics of both cars! I love what you said about the characters of cars that you just don't get from reading numbers on a spec sheet. Keep up the good work, man! You have yourself a new subscriber!

i've driven both cars but i like my rcf. the mustang is nice to but rcf is more me

Ngl I see a lot of potential from this guy. Like a lot of people wanna review cars and stuff but like this guy has a lot character when talking and explaining stuff. Good job honestly

FORD's Magne-Ride is an option for the Mustang and can be ordered with the Base GT or PP1 package. It is standard on the PP2 package. So, many variables in options can put the car well into the 50k+ column.

The overall build quality and interior of the Lexus is on another level.

performance per dollar can't beat the mustang but damn are they everywhere and regular people are not even impressed at hearing a v8 so I would grab that lexus for sure.

If I'm spending RCF money then I'd get a GT350 and get a truly special driving experience. I'm more than happy with my 2018 Mustang GT PP1 and the only other cars that really interest me are the GT350 and the M2 Competition.

With 70k you can get another Mustang after you to wreck it into a crowd

Here’s my verdict Mustang- Has one of the best automatic transmissions in sports car history at this price point. -Direct injection and 12:1 compression on pump gas! -one of the most easily moddable suspensions by a long shot, coils and some bushings with a good set of tires and you have a literal race car. -Factory forged internals good up to almost 1000 whp - The most vast aftermarket support out of any car on the market. -name a car that makes 700 whp on pump gas on 10-12 lbs of boost at this price point i’ll wait... The lexus has the cool factor and luxury. No aftermarket support, no tuning support in comparison. All in all a way worse sports car to buy. More of a spirited luxury car, however way better cars at the price point.

And why didn't you test the Performance Pack 1 version instead of the base Stang?

Great review. Always loved the mustang. Have a GSF and that car is insanely fun and can haul around kids.

Awesome content @Downshift I own a 2018 Lexus GSF and a Lexus LC Convertible love N/A V8 engines. Reliability, performance driving experience combined with exhaust noise is what the Lexus F Performance Division is all about.

i like how this guy got right into the cars, any other youtuber and their like before we get into the video, make sure to like and sub and buy my merch

Just came across your channel, love your style and the way you describe the driving experience. Only advice I could give would be to update camera such as one that is mounted in the vehicle vs a person operating as well as a better camera cost permitting, and whatever you need to get better audio. I've listened to several Lexus F vehicles and they sound great but in this video it doesn't quite meet the quality ive heard from other channels. All in all good stuff, I like your on camera presence.

I saw a 2013 mustang completely rusted from underneath and was going through a major repair. I own 2011 lexus is 250 and it drive like butter smooth.

Well considering I dont want to pay over 1k a month, mustang it is

Soon as the gentleman presented the Mustang hearing that engine roar towards me I was sold Add performance goodies modest pricing value Me and The Deal walking arm over shoulders yapping it up👍👍🥂

You mentioned that the limited slip is new, limited slip is old the independent rear is newer. That’s what makes it “better” than the old one’s

You're paying $35000 extra for quality and reliability

One won’t rattle after 25k miles though... and also won’t last 500k miles.

Lexus for me. I've been driving shitty quality cars since my early driving years and never ever again. Quality is top priority for me. The only two American made cars I consider c7 z06 and Viper. Also wanted to add that the c63s can be get in a convertible form and with a edition 1 option, that is so sexy, that you'll need a repellent to get rid of gold diggers.

That mustang with a few simple bolton upgrades with out run anyone of those other cars.

I rather drive the stang. That Coyote sound system is insane.

And that center console looks like a 2010 downgrade

Good review. I own a 2016 Lexus RCF with the carbon fiber/TVD track package. While the weight shavings are about 25 lbs in total. Not a lot, but the carbon fiber roof lowers the center of gravity a lot especially when going fast through turns where the weight at the top makes the most difference. Having said that, the TVD was only available with the carbon fiber package in previous years. Now, they have it as a stand-alone option in 2020. The $65K RCF comes with LSD, but TVD makes the car so much more fun with amazing and quick steering response. Sport+/manual mode and TVD in slalom mode on city, small roads are the sweet spot. Also, the transmission, steering get quicker as you rev it into high rpms as it assumes you are on the race track so it gives the fastest shifts in high rpms. The engine is designed to rev. To explore the limits, you have to really rev it like a S2000 within inches of its nearly 7500 rpm rev limit and the thing is explosive out of turns while staying in the 6000 rpm to just under 7500 rpm. It is not a bottom end torque monster like the turbo cars so you need to rev it like a small 4-cylinder high revving engine. also, putting a full aftermarket exhaust really makes it properly enjoyable since the stock exhaust is way too quiet and restrctive for emission reasons. Cheers!

Think the PP1 would be a better match to the RCF. PP2 is manual only and pretty much the top handling package. Toss in the recaro seats, adaptive exhaust, and active suspension and it could be interesting.

Dudes using words like “extrapolate” but doesnt know what a torque converter is..

The Lexus will be just fine. It might not have the speed and power of other cars, but they're on a different level regarding reliability and comfort. For me, the Lexus is the best of both worlds. It can perform really well, and is also reliable and drives great. Plus I won't have to worry about it turning into a money pit like all the other cars listed.

With the Lexus vs it’s competitors, the Lexus will last a lot longer so I’d rather have that imo

Cool channel name cool logo and cool video! Hell yeah I’m subbing

You forgot to mention a 18-20 5.0 with the ten speed runs mid 10s with E85, longtubes and a tire

The money per power statement is very true, that's why people keep crashing them.

II like this video for the reminder it is. It is easy to be the armchair car enthusiast and pick on the Mustang or Corvette for not being as premium and polished as ze Germans, or Lexus in this regard. In reality, money is a significant factor for most people and theres something to be said about the performance per dollar offered by the domestics. Even if they aren’t always at the top of our wishlists

Got my 2015 base model GT in August 2019. It came with recaro seats,6 speed manual, Magnaflow Cat back and H Pipe, also came with a Injen Cold Air Intake for the price of $21,000

great video! i have a s550 and im thinking about the rcf.

A Lexus will always be more refined and sophisticated.

I drive an 2019 rcf 10th anniversary and there no comparison to the quality of interior and the reliability of it. The sound is even more amazing. Not hating on the mustang but i edge out bolt ons gt's. And the looks i get or people talking to me about the car wouldnt happen in the mustang cause there a dime a dozen versus 1 of 240 cause the color. If were going off this type of comparison just get a used camaro 2002 ws6 and the value of performance per dollar will be better than a new gt. People have to stop doing these silly comparisons when we all know civics will most likely beat these when it comes to dollar to perfomance ratio.

FYI the RCF has depreciated much faster than the GT, so on the used market the price delta is really not as much, more like 10-15K.

Thank you for doing this video hats off

It really depends if you want more luxury or more raw feeling of the car

Well I have A 2015 Mustang GT and it has lived with a 727 supercharger for over 5 years with 0 issues. The only time I ever saw a Lexus was in my rear view mirror!

He didn't even say that the stang had options like drag and sport .

You should try not having the AC on when you test drive so you can get full 100% power for 1st impression experience

When it comes to production quality control there s no competitor for Lexus period... I haven't drove these two specific cars but I drove Lexus from early 90s and a 2015 Ford Fiesta 😆

There’s a shop in Virginia that specializes in supercharging Lexus’s (most likely F’s)

Lexus for me,had mine for 7years,afcoz not rcf, but was the most reliable car I ever had,didnt seen any problems with it,service in time and that's it,plus it's very comfortable car for long travels

1:54 cap, you haven’t heard it with a nice exhaust plus no mufflers

why would spend 70k on the lexus when the gt350 is just way more car

Ok but the real question is which one looks sexier on your driveway 🙃

70k price point there’s a lot to pick from. 35-40k the mustang is a pretty good bang for the buc. One thing I don’t like about the Lexus IS the clunky sounding paddle shifts. Other than that sounds great and looks refine.

I bought the lexus for reliability, ride comfort, interior ergonomics, engine sound, and the sound system is the mark levinson system is amazing and huge dash screen, amazing every day driver and I rarely ever see them on the road. Comparing a sport and a grand sport touring, better comparison would maybe be the stage 2 mustang to better match price point.

For the price the RCf’s interior looks very cheap and outdated even the mustangs interior looks much more attractive to the eye

I've driven the an RCF, ISF, and new 5.0 Mustang. I ended up getting the new Mustang. Best bang for buck car stock or aftermarket

It’s awesome how nearly 400 tq is considered lackluster these days

Great review!

I’ve had 4 fords and none of them were very reliable. My 2016 Fiesta was the longest lasting of them all but broke down on me after 37 k miles with a transmission problem. I didn’t hesitate to sell it because I’d had enough of the same problem with the other 3, but I really miss it.

Why didn’t you do a race between them ...

Very awesome video Love it ❤️

Rather get the RCF. If you get it used, it’s basically the same price at 40k-45k. And it would still be more reliable than the mustang.

Why the hell would I spend 70k for a car that can barely compete with a base model mustang. And I strongly feel the rcf interior is overrated. Get a better spec mustang and call it day

As a GT 350 owner I love my car and I just like to stand there and look at it Why is no one talking about that god awful RCF spindle grill. I guess everyone is getting used to that now LOL at least the Lexus owners don’t have to look at it while they’re driving it

Should have taken some corners in the Mustang. May not be as composed as the Lexus, but I'm sure it would have been a LOT of fun!

Depends what you wanna do with the car. If you want to build a race your obviously pick a mustang. If you want something out the box it can go either way depending what trim mustang you get.

The rcf is a sport luxury not muscle car. Japanese muscle is the gtr.

love how the subtitles say [Music] whenever the engine sings

I watched the whole video waiting for that moment where both cars would line up... 😩😩

I wish you could get a mustang gt for $35k. Base is around $42k which in reality after bs dealer fees and taxes is closer to $47k; fully loaded it’s around $55k after fees more like $61k. It’s still cheaper for sure. I’m guessing the RCF after taxes and fees is in the $80k realm

i work on fords. after seeing what ford is made of i rather spend extra on lexus

I'll take the Mustang GT

We are so spoiled nowadays I don't think people realize it, the car has over 450 horsepower and 0-60 in 4 seconds and his reaction is "its ok" just think back 10 years people.

how do you copare a base level of mustang vs a 70k car

I’ll be honest, the 10 speed is a better option right now. The 15-17 manuals were more aggressive and sturdier. The 18+ MT82 manual transmission has longer gears and can break shift forks under heavy load. I’m a manual guy, but the Tremec is the transmission you want if you’re getting a manual transmission. The new Mach 1 will have this as an option so that will be interesting.

35k mustang has very cheap interior and good looking mustang gt cost more than 50k

It’s the RCF interior that really makes it the best!😊

I dumped my gt350 for an RCF and quite honestly I’ll never look back. Yeah the Shelby sounded cool and handled a little better, but the build quality absolutely sucked, rattles everywhere, cheap plastics everywhere, and don’t even get me started on the oil consumption. I’m extremely happy with the Lexus.

You don't need the PP2 option on the Mustang to get the magnaride suspension. PP1 has that available option if you wanted. Also the 10 speed transmission with the optional 3.55 gears is an absolute animal, plus its a hell of a lot faster than the 6 speed manual even with the 3.73 factory gears. Only thing you should've done was lined them up side by side and did a drag and roll race and see what performance the $35-40k mustang gets you vs. the Lexus. If your worried about what the interior looks like more than the actual performance aspect of a car then you just want a car that gets you from point A to point B. And lastly if I had the 70k to spend or even 50k it wouldn't be on either car. I'd get myself a used GT-R, or maybe an Audi TT-RS

the problem with RCF is that it’s too expensive for what it offers

That rcf color is amazing

Just found this video after watching the pistonheads one. I can’t believe the price difference in USA vs UK. $35k vs £43k on mustang never mind the huge RCF price difference

Sry man, that lexus doesnt have a good v8 sound, both mercedes and bmw have better sounding engines even that mustang got better sounding engine

I remember watching a guy buy a new 2019 mustang GT for almost $50k. Smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

The power of brand names

Great comparo vid I would take either one if I’m taking an auto i would grab the lex but I would grab the stang with a 6spd manual

If your priorities are quality build and refinement ? Lexus, hands down.

The RCF would be nice, but I’ll stay with my Mustang because of the Manual transmission. #savethemanuals

If the RCF wasn't so expensive and had a manual It'd be perfect.

We all know Ford is the o.g. when it comes to 5.0 liter engines. Consider this you could by a supercharger package for around 7-10k slap it on and you'll have 600-700 whp beast for way less than the price of that rcf. But hey if value for your dollar is of no concern I guess the rcf is for you.