Man I'm a Leafs fan and I even thought some of the chants were amazing lol I only had a problem with the boos during the video and people throwing stuff. Other than that I thought it was hilarious and the Islanders played a great game
BrokenByChange hahaha I was like 12 in the Pedro days so I don’t remember too well but I know what you’re talking about obviously. I personally prefer “we want Boston” from last season though hahahahaha
Fuck the islanders fan base in their organization just wait when the islanders are in tdot. A fight will break out if I see an islanders fan in t.dot they will get made fun of and chirped hard just wait...
I think you guys are missing my point. Toronto has a massive dedicated fan base. It would be nice to have that much energy and make it a difficult place for the opposition to play in
MoRiellyMoProblems Dude, what game are you watching? I’ve seen MSG filled with Isles chants. And while JT wasn’t on the ice, it was mostly pro-Isles stuff.
Even though I’m not at all a Leafs fan, I still like to watch these. I respect fans like Steve who stay by their teams side on their ups and downs and call them out on their bs. I’m a NJD fan (yes...it’s been a rough season...) and they make me want to tear my hair out on most games, but somehow I still love them. I wish we had someone like you for each team😂
As an Islanders fan I say good luck to him. I think he’s a great player, I loved watching him play here and miss him now that he’s gone. Sure I’m sore that he left, but Islanders management has been a joke for decades. Thankfully it looks like we finally have some competent front office management, but it was too little too late for Tavares. When the Isles lost Okposo and Nielsen and replaced them with Ladd and Chimera, that’s when I was pretty sure it was all over for J.T. Any who, good luck to him and the Leafs, onward and upward Islanders.
I have an isles Tavares jersey and then got a Leafs one. Totally understand his decision and have been a fan of both teams. I just love hockey man. Wish other ppl were adults more often.
Thing is can you imagine if he had realized how much Trotz would improve the team. The team they have now is actually doing quite well since he left. Lastly, for myself the real JT is named John Tonelli.
Most enjoyable Steve Dangle video to date. Even tempered, got a few good laughs, and he gave the Isles their props. I was really hoping he would cry but we can’t all get what we want
Isles fan here, and I'm sorely torn on how that game went. On one hand when the stuff was being thrown on the ice and the chants rained down I was like common guys your making all of use look bad. But then when people started tweeting and posting about how terrible we are I wanted to defend my fellow fans but its stupid to do so with the actions that were going on by us, the fans. I dont want to get grouped into the being part of that. But at the same time when I was watching the game I wanted to be there it sounded like so much fun in that arena. I'm tore fully on this because leafs fans be happy you have john tavares but please understand this was the first game back it's over and done with I hope the fans calm down the next game. I thank John once again, he is not a snake, he is not a traitor, I respect his decision to leave fully just know he tore a lot of hearts out in the process that's all. It happens in all long term relationships and that's the case here. And if this is brought up on the podcast tonight, no my reaction wouldn't be different if the isles had lost. If anything leafs media and fans would have a fucking field day if they had won that game. It's over and it's done with, thank you John, its time for us to move on after that game we know and we will
JT spent nearly a decade with the Isles a didn't get an ounce of gratitude. He was stuck for 9 years on a bad team. He earned the right to go home. What your fanbase did doesn't sit right with me, coming from a Ducks fan.
M M Dude he’s a young kid in the NHL. Not really an excuse with Hart in the league, but give him a few years to develop and he’ll be good. He’s not used to the level of play, and going from a starter to a backup role is difficult for any goalie.
I think we all knew this weeks into the season. I even said it last year when they let mac go, i dont care who it was for. Mac is a special breed. Not many can be a stellar back up. Id rather have hutch in net. At least his right handed mit throws shooters off. And he isnt always out of position like sparky. Notice sparky is always trying ti copy andersons style. But no one can use his style the way he does.
Gards Guards so whats different then any other game? Does anderson have goal support? Did mac have goal support? Sparky after every initial attempt, is so far out of position after rebounds it bites him. Just because you might like him. The obvious is seen by the majority brother. Maybe they dont score as much when he is in net because they try and over compensate. Contrary to popular belief, even players at the nhl level are effected mentally by many things.
I was at the game with my son. He is 10, and he was so uncomfortable that we had to hustle for different seats after the first period. Still he did not feel safe, so we left the game after the second period. He is not an Islanders fan, nor a Leafs fan. Just a fan of the game and he likes spesific players. As a father I regret taking him to the game, as there was a bunch of immature Islanders fans shouting in foul language with kids present. As a hockey fan myself, I felt bad for Tavares. They should have honoured his time on their team when they showed the homecoming video. No more games at Long Island for us.
I watched the game yesterday for the joy of watching hockey games. I'm an Islanders fan and I'm not mad at all about Tavares going to Toronto. Heck, I still like him. By the way, I also like the Leafs. Hockey is about having fun and everyone should see it like that. I hope you guys have success in the playoffs :)
I would like to be the first to say, not all isles and are like that. Granted while watching the game on Tv I was laughing and honestly it felt good to like finally see the islanders fans that excited for the first time in a while. But it did get out of hand, I genuinely believe it went way too far with throwing stuff at JT or chanting “we don’t need you” during the tribute video. The islanders are doing better without Tavares and Tavares is doing better without the isles. Don’t let the actions of a few jackasses ruin the whole fan base for you or color your perception of a team. We all just love hockey and that’s what matters. Great video. Go isles!
Fun video as always, even if a bit muted. Two things for the uninformed Leaf masses: 1. Can we stop saying that the Isles fans threw jerseys?? It was one jersey, after warmpus, that was thrown over Tavares's head, not at him in any way. 2. STOP comparing Sundin to Tavares. They are completely different. Sundin had a no-trade clause.....Tavares asked specifically not to be traded.....after saying he wanted to spend his whole career as an Islander. He was a first overall pick, face of a franchise, who begged not to be traded (because he didn't want to uproot his life most likely), and the Isles lost him for absolutely nothing. Plus....he is younger than Sundin was at the time! This is to say nothing of the fact that he says he didn't make up his mind until the last minute...I call BS on that one. When he signed with the Leafs, he said that he was finally fulfilling his childhood dream. If it was his childhood dream in July, it was his childhood dream in February. He wanted to go to Toronto after he was done in NY, and that's that. He just didn't want to have a stopover in between and that is both selfish and sucky. He deserved each and every one of those boos and chants.....and they were loud and plentiful....you couldn't even hear the tribute video!
Ok I have heard this all yet about him saying don't trade me and if he only let us know. First what was said was snow told him he would not trade him last year. Second so let say last year when the islanders where 2 points back of a playoff spot tavares came out on TV and said I hate the management I hate the team and I want out trade me. Your telling me everyone would have been cool with him leaving everyone would have said what a stand up guy he is. The fans would have lost there minds. Worse then last night.
As an Islander fan I say the following not because you had some nice things to say about the Islanders. I say the following because your take on last night's game was surprisingly and completely fair. Fair to both teams. Fair to both fain bases but more than that, movingly insightful and intelligent, something I heretofore haven't given you enough credit for. More meaningful and insightful than many NHL commentators I previously respected have come up with. So, for those things, I recognize and appreciate those qualities in you Mr Glynn. Thanks.
I thought the San Jose fans were disrespectful of the years, the blood, sweat and tears Tavares gave the organization. Marleau had a much greater reception in San Jose when he first returned. "WE DON'T NEED YOU!" Then why are you so angry? Take a queue from San Jose fans. Appreciate all he gave you, say thanks, and move forward.
I've been a Leafs fan for 38 years and perhaps I've become a much more jaded realist lately however if you thought this current team we have was going to win a cup might I suggest a hot towel to give your head a wipe down after it's been lodged in your own ass for so long. We knew going into this year that the back end was our weakness. Still is and still will be for the remainder of the year. At the end of the day the process of making this good team a great team has not yet been completed. Oh and I am still IN. I'm so far in that if my Leaf fandom was a vagina I would be be balls deep. Sure 4 inches ain't much but it's all I've got. Oh and Isles fans, I hope this was some final closure to this perceived slight. I'm glad you got it out of system and now you can focus on the amazing team you have this year. Enjoy it and quit wallowing in the past. It does no good for anyone.
@@chrisfoster8728 It feels good to laugh doesn't it? Especially after that game last night. The sun came up today, jokes are still funny, life goes on. Onwards and upwards.
i would agree with everything you said about the islanders if john tavares had been honest. we heard 2 years of “i’m going to stay” and then he left. if he had left any room for doubt, we wouldn’t care. that’s it. end of story.
All those who want to see four lines of total offense and absolutely no D, physical players, or gritty role players (especially during the playoffs) - raise your hand. Yes, this team is good, but it's all offense. They have some work to do in getting the proper mix in what is needed to advance in the playoffs.
The Isles' fans need to bring that to playoffs, nay, every game. That was hair raising intensity from the fans. As a leafs fan, I'm envious of that level of intensity from the seats. The whole organization and fans were on fire. Good showing by the Isles. The playoff series will be great if we meet.
"Every NHL team has a fan base of thousands of fans". *Laughs in Coyotes*. To be fair, I struggle to find another Ducks fan in Southern California, so I shouldn't be the one talking.
I pre-ordered my book about a week ago, and the delivery shows March5th!! Yes! I will have to wait to read until I finish the Wendel Clark book, but your next Steve! Thanks for doing all this.
Tavares gave them 9 years, in which they did nothing with him. Did not build a strong team around him at all. The only reason Snow wasn't fired earlier was because Chia gifted him half their top 6. JT did not ask for a trade when they were bad. He did his part, fulfilled his end of the contract. Snow gambled and lost and it took JT leaving for ownership to finally clean up the front office.... because the 9 years of mediocrity wasn't a clue. He owed the franchise nothing, the fans should realize that and at least muster a round of applause acknowledging his dedication. At the end of the day the only person that looks out for you is yourself.
@@robertdigirolamo6218 Well, he could've asked for a trade, instead of leaving like a snake. Plus the islanders now have a strong team, aka one that'll make the playoffs. Don't blame him for leaving, just how it happened that pisses isles fans
@@yeetz3508 Nothing he did warrants the name snake. He doesn't owe the team his life. If he wasn't going to sign then it was up to the GM to get his list (if he had a NTC), Garth didn't. Hard to feel bad for the "fans" if they are that petty. He was the face of that franchise for close to 10 years, dragged them from the brinks of obscurity and still gets the hate. The difference between a pat on the back and a kick in the ass is 18 inches. Teams trade players after saying they won't. Enough of the victim card, anyone with half a brain should have been expecting it. You want him to give you more of his prime when you did nothing with 9 he already gave you?
@@robertdigirolamo6218 You're making it seem like they murdered his family and treated him like shit, which wasn't the case. JT made it seem like he was gonna stay, ala stamkos, not like FA that say they'll probably leave (panarin/bobvrosky). This is the NHL, not the NBA, players are usually really loyal to their teams, the whole Pyjama made it seem like he made up his mind wayyy earlier. Fans are totally right to be upset.
Let me as an Islanders fan weigh in on this... We are not mad at JT for leaving the team, he had every right too. We are mad at the way he left. JT said multiple times that he was going to resign with us, he even asked our former GM Garth Snow to not be traded at the trade deadline just to walk away to his home town team that he rooted for growing up, essentially handicapping them since we did not get any assets back for the caliper player he is. Keep in mind that we offered him more money and contract years than Toronto.
As an Islanders fan, I agree with 95% of what Steve said. Snow had MANY chances to sign Tavares before and during the season. What he failed to mention was that he told the Islanders before the deadline, "Please, don't trade me" hence the chant. When your star player in his contract year says don't trade me, every expectation is he's coming back. Never knew about that stuff with his agent though. The jersey burning was ridiculous and throwing stuff at him should have gotten those people banned. Sorry to the guy who had to leave because of the drunken idiots. That building was jumpin' last night and the only thing I could thing was, "Imagine if this game was in October or November."
Leafs are 4-14 against teams with better goals against than them. Isles, Bruins, Blues, Preds, even Arizona, all play better team defense than the Leafs. Leafs have a losing record against all of them. Is it possible to fix this problem, this season, this playoffs? I doubt it.
That's a misleading stat, you have to take into account when those games were played and the sample size for GA on those dates. Also take into account injuries.
I just stumbled on this. As an Isles fan, I don't think Steve said anything here that's too inaccurate in regards to our fanbase or the Tavares situation. The only thing I'd like to point out is that Tavares requested not to be traded at the deadline in 2018 even though it was apparent that the Isles weren't making the playoffs at that point.
To be honest as the Islanders fan I am obviously disappointed he left but full respect to the guy and to the Leafs fan. Sad to see the throwing of stuff but I don't really think the booing is too bad. Anyways good game Leafs
I don't think it was just a few Islanders fans going overboard during the game. It wasn't everyone, but half the arena was chanting "Asshole" throughout the entire game. The only cheers during the first period tribute were the ones playing in the tribute video itself. The reaction to Sundin coming back to the ACC after leaving for Vancouver wasn't anywhere close to what happened to Tavares in the game last night. In fact, it was a pretty warm welcome if I remember correctly. Marleau got a warm welcome when he played back in San Jose. I don't remember anything quite like the reaction last night in my 30 years of watching NHL hockey. The Islanders fans embarrassed themselves, and gave the rest of the decent Isle's fans a bad rep.
The Sundin issue is different in my opinion. He easily could of allowed the Leafs to trade him to a contender instead of finishing out his contract and then joining a contender anyway. He would of had 2 chances to win a cup instead of just one and he would of helped out the team that made him. Win Win right? Remember unlike John, Matts wasn't going to re-sign regardless.
Islanders fans are super classless. Mats Sundin choose not to waive his NTC and left as a free agent, he could have waived his NTC & been traded to another team, giving leafs something in return but he didn't. When he played his first game against the Leafs, the fans gave him a huge standing ovation, even cheered when he scored the winning goal in the shootout. Fans did the same when EE return to Toronto playing for Cleveland. This was completely classless. Where were all these so called fans all these years when JT was in Islander? The arena was empty and tickets were $12. Leafs fans fill up the arena even when the team is bad, not just when they are playing well. So where were all those so called fans? I don't care if my team sucks, if tickets are that cheap I am going to see them every chance I get.
Those Islander fans were awesome.I wanted Leafs to meet Boston in the playoff's first but now after watching that Islander game ,wow that would be the series to watch and maybe even fire up Leafs fans .
Coming from a leafs fan, can’t say we’re much better tbh, we boo’d Gardiner multiple times and even on the road for a defensive mistake lmao. Our fan base is toxic as fuck too, not just the islanders
When Trotz came back AFTER winning the cup, and returned to Washington, the fans, the organization, and the benches gave him a very warm welcome home. It's sad that people can't have a little more class for former teammates. Pay attention NHL, as a Capitals fan, were more than happy to be the class act of the leauge.
Really disappointed in the fans that threw stuff on the ice as an Islanders fan but regardless, last time these two teams played you asked the Islanders to get to the flagpole. We're there with ya (for now) and if the leafs and Isles ever meet in the playoffs, BRING. IT. ON.
Tavares definitely didn't let the Islanders down. They really made it quite easy for him to leave. For his entire tenure, he was unfortunately caught in a cycle of bad management decisions, causing fans to lose interest and never go to games (bottom three in attendance over the last decade), which meant no money to get good free agents, which caused management to make poorer decisions, and it went around and around and around... You can't blame a guy for not staying loyal to the Islanders [dis]Organization.
I’m a Ducks fan for better or worse and my second team has always been Columbus for better or worse, people are saying I’m bandwagoning and I show them my Nash and Johansson jerseys. Either way this season could have cost CBJ a lot of they don’t do anything, either way fan of both for better or worse. My third team is Toronto now and that was soley because of Andersen. The Great Dane, I wish the best for him. Either way I agree support your team through better or worse
Take heart all you Leaf fans...one thing you can count on, no matter how good the team is, no matter how bad the team is, no matter how poor the effort, one thing will never ever change...ticket prices for next season will go up. It's not much to hold onto but after 50 years of impersonating an NHL franchise, you gotta take what you can get.
honestly.. watching that game was a lot of fun because the fans went nuts. I'm not saying calling other a**holes is the right thing to do.. but come on, that was entertaining! They will rematch once again in long Island before the end of the season, who isn't looking forward that next game?
Excellent once again, Isles fan here, don't throw stuff on ice or at players ever, but on the whole the crowd was great, look for the singing of the anthems, very classy.
I’m curious, I’m a pens fan from the uk I picked the pens in 09 just cos they won the first ever game I watched ik I have very little right to watch them but is it that bad?
No. I became a fan of them in the same year because I decided to cheer for them in the playoffs and they actually won so they became my team and I'm from Toronto. It wasn't because of who was on the team since I was so young I didn't know who Crosby even was. I just like penguins lol. Cheer for whatever team you like
Everyone has a right to watch whoever they want. Steve has a problem with bandwagon hockey fans in Ontario who pick a new team everytime a stanley cup final happens
Lets not pretend that it was cut and dry when he left. He kept saying over and over and over that he wanted to be an Islander. He strung the fan base along when he had no real intent of staying. Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking that wasn’t the case. And you say you’re not making excuses....after making a bunch of excuses.
MoRiellyMoProblems He said it up until he left. Engaging in revisionist history only proves what a dolt you are. Sorry if I’m using words that are too big for your tiny little mind. Pride of your trailer park I’m sure.
I think that if the offside call is so close that it has to be reviewed it shouldn’t be reviewable. The rule is used to prevent passes from your own zone to right in front of the other team’s net. If it’s like an inch offside it does not matter at all
Offsides is offsides. I hate to hear people complain about it. It is one of the oldest most basic rules in the game. What'd I'd really hate is if a goal was awarded even if the play was offside. Have that one go against us - we're giving you the goal even tho the play was offside - maybe deciding a playoff game against us - and see how mad everyone gets.
The problem isn’t why it’s how. As well, it looked predetermined. That’s my biggest anger. When he said “don’t trade me” he knew what he wanted. Proof: 1. He sold his house here in January 2. Soon after his wife accepts job in Toronto 3. John tells the Maven he didn’t want his new team to lose assets... like that’s fucking sleazy. That means everything he said after January in my opinion was lies. That’s just disgusting. That’s my biggest problem. We WEREN’T a thought in his decision. He knew what he wanted and milked the decision. That’s why I’m mad.
In time Grasshopper you will learn that the Leaf organization is where dreams go to die...I've been conditioned to accept this for 50 years. As long as ownership coffers are full of loot, nothing will ever change.
Also chirping aside I appreciate your fair account of what happened at that game. As an islander fan I was very concerned that things would get ugly and walking into the arena the amount of leaf fans vs islander fans was genuinely astonishing. Having said that we did sit next to a group of leaf fans and it was honestly much more respectful then I had expected. I didn't see any fights, no one really bothered them and no one threw anything on the ice mid game. It was an honestly incredible near playoff atmosphere.
I really hope Leafs fans don't take a moral high ground over the Islanders fans for what they did to Tavares. Do you not remember what you did to Kessel? Do you know how you're going to react if Matthews leaves if your team doesn't win the cup? Rant over, sorry
Just because some Leafs fans are assholes, does not mean they all are. In fact, most are not. If the good fans, who are respectful, speak out towards Isles fans being disrespectful, you cannot say "because other fans are not respectful, your opinion is invalid, and you are taking a moral high ground". For instance, my opinion was, the chirping was not needed during the tribute video and late in the third, at that point the fans are simply taking joy in hurting another person as much as they possibly can. I don't agree with that, but I don't take away any ones right to say what they want. That being said, I will not let the fact that not all Leafs fans are cool people prevent me from voicing my own opinion. I never did anything to Kessel, I never boo'd a Leaf, and if Matthews ends up leaving to Arizona to live out his dream in 5 years, so be it. I will miss him, but I won't freak out. It is just about being emotionally mature. I get emotions get high in this sport, but at some point we gotta draw the line and be good people too, not just crazy fans. Though that is not going to happen anytime soon lol.
Like Steve said it's a safer bet that leafs lost this one and that's the reason why leafs nation don't take this to a moral perception of this.besides it's just a game like any other in the season.isles fan chose to embarrass themselves by acting like jackasses and thats the perception we were expecting.but don't expect leafs fan will not do the same if they meet in playoffs.the question is how will isle fans feel if tavares knocks out his old team in the playoffs.the gun is in your head isle fans.you better hope isles don't meet leafs or else your done in 5
SteveDangle I’m an Islanders fan I agree with you with the points u brought up I’m not as mad at JT for leaving the organization as other fans we lowballed him for years and he deserved to leave but with this being said I don’t think it is Tavares fault for leaving the management for the islanders have sucked
The NHL has 31 teams with 31 Fanbases, and each of them behave better if their team is having a terrible game, than soccer fans if their team is having a good day
Would it be so wild to send Sparks down to the Marlies so he can play a bunch of games before the playoffs. So he can get some confidence and bring Hutchinson up for a bit.
The Leafs of 1967 - that team that won the Cup - you may have heard of them - lost ten games in a row during the regular season prompting Punch to let King Clancy coach for a few games so he could watch from the stands. We worry about 2 losses in a row and think they are destined for a first round loss. The game is not so predictable - we need to go with the flow and breathe!
