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LGBT Representation that Matters (to me) 

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This video I talk about about some gay stuff. Representation in games and shows; and tiny bit about how my own experience causes me to care about this stuff.
This might be the only ever "pride month" video I ever make, but it'll be cool to have this here just so people know what I think about certain things through me talking about some fictional characters.

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@harryandsomeskulls
@harryandsomeskulls 2 месяца назад
Will always remember having my bisexual awakening from playing Bully Scholarship Edition, and discovering you could flirt with and kiss some of the boys as well as the girls, took kid me a long time to figure out why I enjoyed doing that so much
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
Insane comment. Also I had no idea that was in the game lol
@redfoxdog1
@redfoxdog1 2 месяца назад
same but with new vegas
@crowbroseph
@crowbroseph 2 месяца назад
Man bon clay is so awesome, I wish gay people were real :'(
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
That's my slime. Need Bon Clay to see the Straw Hats again.
@gameboygamer6498
@gameboygamer6498 Месяц назад
Axton from Borderlands 2 is also bisexual. In the Dragonkeep DLC there's a bit of a throwaway line where he says he'll spend the treasure money on girls, and "sometimes dudes".
@PlebCentre
@PlebCentre 2 месяца назад
3am Frogwater hits different.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
👽
@hufthoch4812
@hufthoch4812 2 месяца назад
GOOD representation matters. Especially Netflix shows tend to force representation just to end up with some annoying stereotype which is bad representation. Give is good diverse characters in fitting settings that are more than their s-uallity and race.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
It is pretty annoying when a character only exists to represent something. I should have said that in the video but didn't think of it while writing 🤷
@bazookaman1353
@bazookaman1353 2 месяца назад
Games should vary their playable characters more. For example, in Legend of Zelda, you always play as Zelda, I get that he's the titular protagonist but we could play other characters, like for example the princess.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
to be fair you can play as metroid in metroid 👍
@wock3476
@wock3476 2 месяца назад
My brother in Christ this aged so fucking badly this must’ve been written by a time traveller
@sapbaxter1638
@sapbaxter1638 2 месяца назад
you're gonna love what JUST got announced
@bazookaman1353
@bazookaman1353 2 месяца назад
@@wock3476 That's actually because a post about the new game inspired me to write it.
@wock3476
@wock3476 2 месяца назад
@@bazookaman1353 cap but okay brother
@AbrahamBaconham
@AbrahamBaconham 2 месяца назад
Great vid, thanks for being cool Frog
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
I used anime clips cuz it's easier to edit but I'd recommend the manga lol
@AnonToast
@AnonToast 2 месяца назад
I used to be frogphobic, now I realize frogs are just silly little goobers who enjoy bideo games. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways
@aioli4869
@aioli4869 2 месяца назад
Being just over halfway through One Piece, the representation is INTENSE. 🌈 love all of these picks for your vid
@HandsomeJackie
@HandsomeJackie 2 месяца назад
Just gonna forget about Birdo?? She and Vivian are the Trans Queens of Mario 🏳️‍⚧️
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
I forgor. Had Vivian on the brain because it was the new topic.
@ThePhantom9495
@ThePhantom9495 2 месяца назад
I *do* have a problem with "forced diversity", but not for the reason you think. I'm not some alt-right bible-thumper who has a heart attack when they hear a pronoun. I myself am agender (identify with no gender), and have ASD. For me, diversity for the sake of looking inclusive often leads to tokenism and let me assure you, bad representation can be worse than no representation. Take it from me as a member of a group of people often depicted as being rude, childlike, prone to meltdowns, and incapable of functioning independently.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
I should have written down a bit more about that, but I really don't like characters that just fill quotas. I didn't include a section because I couldn't think of any characters (probably because they didn't matter lol)
@scumoftheearth4745
@scumoftheearth4745 2 месяца назад
you seem cool, but there's a good reason people wouldn't expect you to have a problem with "forced diversity." the term implies some conspiracy or mob forcing representation into art which is why it's been popularized and employed aggressively by bigoted culture war types. right-wingers who use that term often don't mind or even appreciate problematic and token representation. there's nothing about it that implies a hope for better representation and there already exists a wealth of language to criticize what you take issue with without appropriating reactionary rhetoric.
@stm7810
@stm7810 Месяц назад
as a schizophrenic plural system, very much this. the only times I'm represented is when I'm evil or wrong.
@zelren_
@zelren_ 2 месяца назад
Some of the best representation is always the ones where it isnt in your face and they just exist in the story like everyone else. Eg. Claire from cyberpunk. Not that you ignore possible implications of that character being lgbt or ignoring it entirely, just letting people be people.
@TheMidnightVendetta
@TheMidnightVendetta 20 дней назад
This is a great video man, genuinely gives me hope for our future. Humans are complex creatures, and any forced limitations on a persons existence is wrong. We are evolving socially to truly understanding the beauty in all of us!
@faf_nir
@faf_nir 2 месяца назад
I really like when writers don't make the character's whole personality about their sexuality. It often makes for a way more interesting character and development in my opinion, I really like to see that representation but when they are more than "gay character 3452 is gay" same with straight relationship in fiction it's interesting when it's not the whole point of a character and it doesn't need to define them, they can just be a random character. LGBTQIA+ characters don't need to be in the spotlight for them to be interesting I think it's even better when they are just that a character they feel more integrated in the story and feel more natural to me at least. I mean no offense against anybody of course it's just my opinion and it may not reflect what a lot of people think. Live the way you want to live and be as happy as you can be no matter who you are 🌈
@VictoriaWiggins
@VictoriaWiggins 2 месяца назад
I love this sm. I love when trans characters are just existing and it isn’t the focus
@scrums4748
@scrums4748 2 месяца назад
No way he’s got rain and dust by constrobuz in the video. Have you or will you do a video on starfetchers?
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
I LOVE STARFETCHERS AAAAAAAAAAAA I wanna wait until a full release of the game, but I did mention it briefly in an "upcoming indies" type video.
@THEBEEDOOBOP
@THEBEEDOOBOP 2 месяца назад
I apologize for you also having to go through Shitty Teenage Alt-Right Phase, from my own experience it sucks shit to look back on that period of your life. Gamergate ruined everything. Also I'm glad you're making this video because this kind of thing matters especially now but fuck you for using the balatro soundtrack I was playing balatro and had to check that I had indeed muted the soundtrack and for a hot minute thought that the setting didn't work. Anyway happy pride
@kolipoli4952
@kolipoli4952 2 месяца назад
I like these lowkey representations
@bentanner4192
@bentanner4192 2 месяца назад
They're putting chemicals to turn the freaking frogwaters gay 😞 smh my head
@Corusame
@Corusame 2 месяца назад
Btw unrelated but you might be interested. A new MOBA called Supervive just started its beta and looks like a hybrid cross between Battlerite, LoL and Apex Legends. Highly recommend checking it out, looks like a lot of fun
@noahmcchicken1228
@noahmcchicken1228 2 месяца назад
Could the furi protagonist kill Kratos in god of war or what about an army of riders💀 I bet the whole Norse pantheon can’t kill them in that game 💀
@SykoFox
@SykoFox 2 месяца назад
i love your videos. you seem like a nice person.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
ay thanks
@APerson-si8jr
@APerson-si8jr 2 месяца назад
4:18 This is what we actually need and what more people are ok with. Making things painfully obvious is annoying and awkward at times. I have no problem with gay or trans people, I've had both gay and trans friends. I've never had a problem with them with regards to their sexuality or decisions regarding their own body or pronouns. However, I've also had friends who were super excessive about their being gay, I had one guy who frequently flirted with me, talked about how much attention he was getting on different apps, talking about getting fucked, and that's great for you bro but I don't need or want to know, we are no longer friends for obvious reasons. When being gay is someone's entire personality or its unnecessarily forced into places it feels out of place in, its just really bad pr. Treat any and all inclusion roughly similar to any other sort of media, if it feels seamless and not out of place then people wont have near as much of a problem. There will always be freaks who are just upset to be upset, but many of the people who are against DEI are against it because its forced, out of place, and excessive. If you do want to go overboard in the flamboyant gay tropes, people like bon clay are the perfect example that gay is fine, if the character is good. Bon clay is a warrior, everybody loves that sweetheart. Another great example is Hammerlock and Wainwright, I like both characters, and I enjoyed the dlc where we work to make their wedding happen, no problems at all for me there, they're both angels and I love them. I agree that adding diversity isn't bad, and people will get upset and call everything forced diversity simply because they don't want any of it involved, but forced diversity definitely does still exist. Something that has personally made me slightly uncomfortable and that has roused a lot of hatred for the lgbt community is how people in the overwatch community have dealt with things. Not sure how much you know about overwatch, but I've loved that game since release, not so much in ow2, but I still love it. Whenever pride month comes around, or even just throughout the year, the ow community gets incredibly cringe with "diversity". I constantly see in all of the ow twitter posts tons of people begging for certain characters to be gay, trans or bi. We have gay and non-binary characters in ow, and nobody really ever cared that they were gay, because they were also normal or respectable characters. The problem is people are begging for more characters to be gay, making teirlist of what the characters sexuality would be, except there's no straight tier, saying if you aren't gay you're in the wrong community...? Blizzard has changed their social media profile pictures to rainbow, made pride maps and pride crosswalks in game, made lgbt characters, and the community begs for more. As a straight white dude, I have never cared about race or sexuality being included, but this community is insanely obsessive over it, to a fault. These are only some examples, I don't play ow around this or look at ow on social media at this time because it is genuinely everywhere and its just weird. The focus should never be more on sexuality and appeasing certain groups than on making compelling and actually good characters. Another example of this, which isn't related to pride, but I feel is on a similar note is the new assassins creed game. We've had black side and main characters in the franchise, and in similar franchises, and nobody has really ever cared. But they're making a game set in feudal Japan, hundreds of years ago, in a place that was 99.99% Japanese people, and they choose one black samurai, who's history is questionable at best, and they make him main character. This sort of thing is what people mean with forced diversity, We haven't had a Japanese main character to my knowledge, so in what world does it make sense to choose the one black man in feudal Japan, for diversity sake. It feels forced, it feels disrespectful, the character isn't nearly as interesting as the many many Japanese legends they could've chosen but this is what they do, and then they get mad and call people racist when they get flak. There is no denying that there is hateful people who will hate for no reason other than to hate and hurt people. There are racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc. They will always exist and that is unfortunate, but so many other people get labeled under that umbrella because of genuine concerns and problems. Like I said earlier, putting these character into games and shows is great, when they are cool characters there's no issue and they will be well received if its fitting. The black character they are putting into this game was real and could've been a baller side character that I'm sure they could've made well loved, like the trans character in the first half of the video you mentioned (The bulge scene is hilarious btw). Many people don't dislike diversity, but lazy diversity, Keep making cool diverse characters, don't be afraid to poke fun at them, make their character interesting, and fitting of the story they are in, that is what we need. I will admit though, with all of the shitty diversity, people have become predisposed to dislike or be weary of diversity, even if it's good, so it's likely harder than ever to make a diverse character that will be well received. Good video overall, as per usual, nice to see someone else's perspective in a non intrusive way. Sorry for the essay. I'm not wasting my time checking it over so hopefully it makes some sort of sense. Much love big bro!
@hhhhhhhhhhb
@hhhhhhhhhhb 2 месяца назад
thanks for being cool abt trans ppl👍
@stvnbo
@stvnbo 2 месяца назад
Can't believe you didnt mention the goat Birdo
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
woops
@KiteMoonwall
@KiteMoonwall 2 месяца назад
great video!
@ShockedTaiLung
@ShockedTaiLung 2 месяца назад
I love drinking frogwater
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
its gay don't drink that
@typedude
@typedude 2 месяца назад
i'm so gay.. THE KING OF GAYS
@lunareclipse7570
@lunareclipse7570 2 месяца назад
1:00 so real they can do what they want :D
@munjatkumo1929
@munjatkumo1929 2 месяца назад
Video slaps.
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 2 месяца назад
You talk as if Bridget wasn't well known in 2000's for his memetic status as THE trap, or highly requested to come back to the roster for over a decade.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
I saw Bridget mentioned like twice till she had a bunch of articles written about her because of the whole trans thing. For sure Guilty Gear fans already knew but most people didn't (I think 🤷)
@Ghee_Buttersnaps
@Ghee_Buttersnaps 2 месяца назад
Algorithm 😎😎😎
@slidersawesome
@slidersawesome 2 месяца назад
Fuck you for using the balatro music! Good video though
@tulasigopinath
@tulasigopinath 2 месяца назад
ok, te amo
@tobiasgradl1538
@tobiasgradl1538 2 месяца назад
I fucking hate when a Show or Game character is super on the nose about being gay. I fr just wanna play a game or watch the show i cant give 2 shits if the dude is gay. I also get annoyed alot at Devs putting in gay characters simply for the reason of there being a character that is gay, like overwatch where you boot up the game every 2 weeks to see a new Flag on a new Hero lol
@bazookaman1353
@bazookaman1353 2 месяца назад
How many "first" gay characters does Disney have now? I lost count.
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
Yeeeeeeeeeah. Sometimes that's all a character is and its annoying.
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 2 месяца назад
@@bazookaman1353 4 I think.
@roxessin1800
@roxessin1800 2 месяца назад
I don't know why people cant keep their sexuality to themself and what they do in the bedroom private. I didn't sign up for this.
@stvnbo
@stvnbo 2 месяца назад
Then why did you click on the video? Just to bitch?
@roxessin1800
@roxessin1800 2 месяца назад
@@stvnbo nothing in the title or thumbnail suggests that he would be talking about this crap, and none of his other videos are like this. Also you lot think yourselves tolerant but immediately resort to insults when confronted by a different opinion.
@stvnbo
@stvnbo 2 месяца назад
it's titled "representation that matters to me" and there's a rainbow on the thumbnail. I'm sorry to say but if you missed that, that's on you. Also, I'm respectful as hell when I think someone is arguing in good faith, but "gay people should just be quiet" isn't as nice as you think it is
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
It's title and image! "representation" mentioned and the rainbow thumbnail!
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
oh you know what i should change it to "LGBT Representation"
@ouma7743
@ouma7743 2 месяца назад
Bro really made an entire video on Twitter shit you could have talked about literally anything else
@bigfreakinfrog
@bigfreakinfrog 2 месяца назад
dude i make videos about stuff i care about, chill out. it's not super important to me but i appreciate some representation now and again.
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