These are great conversations to have, but can you please incorporate a live fact-checking element into the discussion. The GOP uses "alternative facts" so quickly, at least put the actual truth in subtitles when someone says something objectively false please.
Vice was cofounded by alt right hero Gavin McInnes. After leaving vice he cofounded the proud boys. A racist misogynist neofascist group. Investors include Disney, Rupert Murdoch, A&E, and so on.
Phillip Griffin Also, #Proudboys. I guess im black and racist. But one thing is clear. You're dumb. Also they support free speech. Facist dont do that. Facists dont support the 2nd Amen either, which they do. Facists oppose the 2nd amend because a armed society can start a revolution. They are a very diverse group. Unlike all white soy boy skinny beta male Fake ANTIFA.
Why did they even invite Blaire white on if she didn't even barely get to speak? It's obvious the people who created this don't like her. Not to mention that Caleb guy sitting next to her whispering threatening shyt in her ear, but that's brushed off because it was directed to Blaire, so no one cared. Kind of reminds me of that transgender who threatened and grabbed Ben Shapiro by the neck, and of course nothing was done about that; he wasn't even reprimanded, yet if someone did that to one of them, they'd make a huge deal about it and the aggressor would be thrown off the show.... They want to preach "peace and equality", yet they're the ones that are totally aggressive and want to start fights every opportunity with someone that doesn't agree with their veiws/opinions. Do you want equality or do you want to be a protected party? Because you can't be both.
Confusing the actions of the few with a whole community is not logical and this line of thinking is part of the problem. Just because one individual got upset and attacked Ben Shapiro does not mean that the community as a whole is illegitimate. Why not talk about the violence trans people deal with at a disproportionate rate compared to the national rate in their day-to-day lives? Enough of the double standards.
Nah I loved the blonde woman in blue at the front, I love that she is able to look outside the box. I think she was very reasonable aha. Still love blaire though
yess queen blaire, you should check out her youtube channel if you havent yet. she is spot on with so many issues, the community really needed her perspective
@Liliana Penderecka I do agree with you on that respect. However, I’d probably also do the same thing in a debate if someone started personally attacking another member’s identity. But that’s just me, I guess.
Was there a need to stop Jamie to begin with? And if there is that need, is it relevant? Because honestly, I heard not a hate speech here, but merely a vocal expression of thought. I'm not an American. So I don't know if that's a norm in the US to halt a person from speaking just like that. Thank you for giving me a hearing!
I believe you mean Democrats. Outside of evangelicals, the conservative position has been a more libertarian one. As in, "who cares." I don't need to know what you identify as. That is what Don't Ask Don't Tell was. People mistake that for prejudice because somewhere along the line every sexual minority had it drilled into their heads by the far left that the ultimate goal is that everyone must know your sexual identity, and then must bend the knee in acceptance. That goes against the very founding principles of liberal democracy that requires strong libertarian senseabilities to not step on other people's beliefs. Unless someone is actively working against your civil rights, which is illegal in most developed countries, then who cares what they think or believe? Move along. Worry about yourself.
Ultra Conservative That's the thing, most gay people I know aren't degenerates or weirdos they just have a different sexual preference which doesn't bother me since it's their life BUT then there's the weirdos who are the radical ones forcing shit trying to make us play along to their delusions and that's when it becomes an issue. Just like with republicans you have the people who are decent individuals and then you have the neo nazis and trumpanzees who are racist trash.
@Jack Shite Right on! I will thumbs up your comment a million. However, statistically 13% is quite significant. I would love to see them nitpick whatever alternatives there are and vote Republican and accelerate their own implosion. Nothing like seeing people get what they deserve, both good and bad.
She's mildly cross-eyed on both the left and the right at random times throughout this interview. IDK how that's possible, but that's what's happening.
@MexicanTacos 07 That's just not true. Why do you people spout bullshit claims before doing any research to support your delusional wishes. There were, and are, lgbtq members of congress and politicians around the country. That are Republican, and easily identifiable as being more supportive of the community than Trump would ever be. Infact, there are multiple tangible instances of the Trump administration enacting anti-lgbtq policies that directly take rights away from the community. *Here's a list:* www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/06/21/it-s-time-reckoning-journalists-who-boosted-false-narratives-about-donald-trump-s-lgbtq-policy/223969 Can you tell me even one pro-lgbtq policy that Trump has done or even supported??
Im a gay man from New York and I literally moved to Maine to get away from these kind of people. They all love telling us who we are suppose to be and how we are suppose to act, and if it isn’t the same as them then you are the crazy one... too much nonsense. Live and let live.
Identity politics is making gay dating harder than ever, not only do we have to still keep our asses vigilant from homophobes but now we have to wonder if we are actually dating a 100% non confused gay male, and as a gay male I want ONLY that, no genderfluid, no confused, no nothing
I know right? What happened to the good old days when we banned gays on television because the poor Christian moms where too afraid their little (closeted) angels would see it?
It would've been so nice to hear more from her. She's really beautiful and is so witty and intelligent!! Whoa, I'm crazy about her. I've gotta go to the extended version.
@@alexandraasbury9974 She is a far right grifter. She is not intelligent and ready to sell out to people that hate her for what she is. Just look at the comment section of this video. Mostly conservative idiots and you can clearly see what they think about lgbtq people.
I'm a gay male and this video does show we are not one monolothic group. That being said, the majority of the people that fall within the LGBTQ community are moderate, liberal or progressive.
The thing about being trans in the military. The trump administration has made it so that post-transition trans people can join but people who haven’t transitioned can’t. The simple reasoning for that is the government would have to pay for their transition surgery which could cost hundreds of thousands.
That term “identity politics” is meaningless. Are senior citizens who vote for candidates hou support Medicare voting based on “Identity politics”? Or rich people who vote for those who propose special tax loopholes and tax cuts - is that identity politics? I am married to my same sex partner. Do you honestly think I should vote for someone who wants to cancel my marriage?
You wrote this a while ago. I would not say it'd be less polarized necessarily. We're just made more aware of each other. Being part of the same over-arching community with vastly different viewpoints doesn't just solve differences.
Trump is a racist i could send you a ton of links to his shitty statements. He can say one thing but mean another. "Black lives and communities matter" he doesnt believe that, he wants votes.
@Ichigo Red you know that's what irritates me more than anything, even Oprah loved him until he turned against the dems. If he was a racist why were they all buddy buddy with him when he was a registered Democrat, now hes on the other side hes a racist and so is anyone who votes for him? That doesn't sound right to me even al Sharpton had his back long as he was a Democrat. Gullible huh?
it sucks and like i don’t want people to assume since i’m a lesbian that i believe in all these dumb genders and sexualities that tumblr teens made up for oppression points
@@Illigrown Trans and non binary people (called gender non conforming at the time) were literally crucial to the start of the gay rights movement. If it weren't for them it might have taken longer same sex marriage to be legal .
wakkinito Trans- from the sex you were born with to the opposite gender Bisexual- sexually and romantically involved in both male and female. Pansexual- sexually and romantically involved in both make and female and ALSO be able to be with someone who falls outline of those two or doesn’t identify as either cis male or cis female. Cis- identifying your gender with the sex given at birth (Born male, Identify as man) (Born female, identify as woman)
Kiwimonii I’m just fine! I’m in a happy relationship and my life is good! Clearly if you don’t know what gender you are then you’re lacking things at home.
Brock Kyle if you’re fine then why are you mad about something that doesn’t even affect you lmfaooooooooooo. Dear god. IN FACT why watch the video at all?? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 whew chile
... u do reaize the central park 5 is racist, and tht even when they were proved innocent, trump still went on ab it.. along w it, he was sued by nyc for not letting black ppl stay in his hotel
and tht wasnt even a receipt lmfao it was just the ad trump reserved in a newspaper to demand the murder of the 5 innocent boys... please do ur research guys !!!
@@feircebrocally4936 I don't think they really care at this point who you sleep with. It's about policy now. Minority groups will say "why do you care what color my skin is/who I sleep with/who I identify as" while pushing for legislation that affects everyone. "Why do you care what I do with my own body" as a women kills the SEPERATE body growing inside her that is also someone's son or daughter. That "why do you care" shit is just a con to distract people from the things that you are often trying to force on them.
@@Carguylogan but a straight person is the one who literally JUST said "who cares who you sleep with" . don't know why you had to make a whole political paragraph for me.
@@feircebrocally4936 You said "I don't know why" so I responded. If you don't want people to respond to you then why are you posting on public forums in response to others?
While I agree with the premise of what you’re saying, a lot of the same people who say nobody cares are usually the first to tell us to leave it at home or to keep it to ourselves. Sorry that my relationships don’t end when I walk out of the front door. Sorry that the mere mention or sight of anything even remotely gay sends a look of disgust on their face. But hey, those same people will still say they “don’t care.”
@@applepie8308 Stop slapping homophobic to everything. I'm saying they are weird because they are not because they are gay or trans. The liberal ones slap labels on us and forcing us to get their pronouns right or we are evil if we don't. Non weird trans and gay people don't give af.
@@neovelvet You are an open minded liberal, and this panel is filled with progressives. Key difference being liberals view people as individuals and are increasingly being slammed as right wing.
@Bob Jones yeah, and? Like isn't that freedom of speech? Or are you a little snowflake afraid of some change you don't like. If you don't like it, move away. tf
____________I doubt it. There's always way more infighting than civil discussion among these ppl. They can't let the world see that dark side. This was probably the bulk of footage where they weren't yelling at each other.
Stuyvesant Rockwell What happened to America is that people learned to be open-minded and respect each other’s needs instead of putting their own comfort and definition of normalcy above everyone else
@@user-sn6jv5dv9s Idgaf what LGBT people do as long at it doesn't bother me. Protests and doing what they're doing now bothers me because it's annoying
Yes he did. And they knew that their "Trump is a racist, Trump is a racist" argument wouldn't work, so instead of focusing on the information, they switched their focus towards the fact that he had brought actual evidence with him.
I know it's sad that she barely got to talk. I'm a Democrat and I support Bernie but I love Blaire she's logical and a good representative for our community (trans community)
I’ve learned if I was a liberal, I’d have tons of privilege, get to annoy everyone freely, and be treated condescendingly, while as a conservative I’m treated equally. What a productive conversation
Most of these people stated nothing but mediocre reasons and identity politics as reasons to vote for their centrist candidates. Any Bernie, Tulsi, or Yang supporter would’ve given you SPECIFIC POLICIES if they had been asked the same question.
I mean they chose LGBT people so they could give their opinion of the candidates regarding LGBT issues so obviously identity politics is going to be the main topic.
Identity politics is a meaningless term. Most people vote for candidates who support their vale’s & needs. I’m in a same sex marriage. Do you honestly think I would vote for Republicans who are obsessed with ripping it apart and still never took their gay marriage laws off the books? The TX GOP, where I live , has refused gay Republicans a seat at the table for 30 yrs now.
@@clewgayming oh so normal people? why can't you just say that? Saying cisgender is redundant since 99.99% of this planet's population is cisgender, that would be like pointing out we are homosapiens, like, yeah? We know.
This video is about people in the LGBTQ+ community who identify differently in the political spectrum. They were announcing their identifications to communicate the theme of this content to the viewers .
I’m not conservative or a Republican but I believe we need to hear the voices of conservative members of the LGBT community, because we don’t think the same and I would hate to make someone feel alienated on the issues that matter to them just as much as we hear the issues that matter to progressives and liberals
Levvy More I agree. I see them wearing it in public and they’re all old white people who wear them, and when they see me (Hispanic) they’re eyes get small lol
Not really I would say. Some people really like him and some really hate him. It’s not the fault of the people that support him that people get physically upset over a stupid hat
Woke cultists hate themselves, hence why they make up all these narcissistic "genders" in order to feel superior and "unique" while simultaneously hating normal ppl
That's still not an excuse lol imagine voting for someone who wants to fire you for being gay and being against your sexuality. Why did that guy vote for someone who is against him.
"I identify as ... pansexual or bisexual ..." You're one or the other, buddy. Can't be both, as they're not synonymous. The distinction between pansexual and bisexual is that pansexuals are attracted to anyone (which includes non-binary people) while bisexuals are attracted only to men and women (which can include binary transmen and transwomen). There is a frustratingly large number of LGBT+ people who don't even know the difference between being pan and being bi (probably because some of them keep making up so many new labels that they don't remember the original ones anymore).
Why woke cultists are dangerous and insane, they think they can be any label while coming up with new ones and change whenever they please. And then they want to force everyone else to follow that under the law. How the hell are you supposed to legislate idiotic things that these delusional ppl cant even pinpoint themselves? Why should the majority abide to stupid laws were u can get fired at any moment because these lunatics can change sexuality and gender whenever they please? They must be stopped now.
I’ve been questioning my sexual identity lately (shhh don’t tell) but if there’s one thing I’m positive about, it’s that I’ll never vote for a democrat under today’s current political climate
The other man with the MAGA hat and white beard said that he cared more about policy than sexuality. The women talking about cis and male was referring to the fact that as a trans woman, gay people/ candidates do not necessarily have her back on the same issues.
Bisexual and pansexual is almost the same thing tho I believe that bisexual is valid...but pansexual..😬people are just creating and labelling everything 😒
PHTX lol did u make that up? He’s been the most popular senator in the country 11 times in a row morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/
PHTX I’m not saying he’s THE MOST liked but there is certainly some disparity here. Plus I support Tulsi so you’re the Berniebro (just because I said so because that’s how shit works right?) www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/28/18285455/2020-presidential-election-polls-joe-biden-democratic-primary-candidates
Lmao this man is GAY. Nothing wrong with that, just call it like it is. I’m a lesbian. I’m not going to mince words saying I’m a “cis gender titty loving same gender sex loving woman”
Jennie Woo I’m just saying it doesn’t really matter words wise. He said he’s a cis man who loves men. That means gay. If he was a trans man who loves men, he would most likely say he’s gay. He just didn’t want to say “gay” even though that’s exactly what he just described himself to be 😂
This is the problem with identity politics. They spend all the time arguing "I am" or "I am not". They don't even start discussing problems, how to solve them or politics in general.
You know I think saying “nonbinary individual who likes women” isn’t that different from saying “filipino man with curly black hair” or is it now? And I’m pretty sure pronouns are only one syllable. Not that hard to remember. Just call everybody “they” if you don’t want to memorize it.
Again, just call everyone “they”. Also, I’m pretty sure most people at most know 4-5 nonbinary/gendernonconforming/other people, so again, it’s not hard to remember.
@@ivory8492 The pronoun “he” is not in reference to Blaire which is mentioned in the second part of the OP, it’s in response to the first part of the OP/original comment that says, “lol he brought receipts” which is about the black man (I forget his name) who proceeded to pull out the article having to do with Trump and what was actually said about the Central Park 5. All though I can see why it looks as though the pronoun “he” was being used to disrespect Blaire it’s not actually the case, just wanted to clear that up. 😊
This entire video is an absolute shitshow on both sides. Gotta love the zero mentions of Bernie Sanders too, as if he wasn't a likely frontrunner as soon as Biden starts to plummet
Amazing...the trans light skinned woman who "passes" hasn't been affected either way. No big surprise there. She needs to come out as Trans at a MAGA rally and see how open-minded they are.
@G Mart Exactly. And trans people are taking over everything so fast. Schools, hospitals are bending over for them. Lesbians/gays can literally be harrassed for saying they wouldn't date a trans person because of their genitalia/bodies at a pride event. Harrassed for being gay. In their own community.
@G Mart Are you sure about that? Marriage equality only happened FOUR years ago. Conservatives are the kings of attacking out groups. Conservatives are the definition of groupthink. Conservatives never get social issues right by nature of being conservative, the only thing conservatives get right (...maybe not in the US...) is fiscal policy. If conservatives actually valued individuals and individual rights, they'd be more electable.
She is very racist/homophobic/transphobic, she said herself she hates being trans and that she is still a boy and uses he/him pronouns, also she said some slurs and probably supports violence on minority groups
I love how all the republicans got straight to the point, especially the "I identify as an American" lmao All the people on the left on the otherhand were listing their life storys and had like servel different pronouns
I hate the this pronoun insanity. People don't own other peoples words! Same with bodies and beliefs! I will always use he for males and she for females.
@@itaikolin8264 Who asked... you... to interject? Nobody? It's almost like this is an open forum. Btw, what part of what I said do you object to? Owning other people? Their words? Their beliefs?
@@stevetennisproIt was always like this until the 2010s decade when social media pushed this pronoun and gender ideology, I can't even imagine what people from 20 years ago would think if they saw in the near future people are saying you can identify as not a man or a woman and go by they/them (a plural pronoun ) it's utter insanity and the worst part is If you don't play along with these delusions you are seen as an enemy
@@Jcon4002 I'd argue that social media has created an inclusive space for trans individuals which hadn't existed before the 2010s. I believe that the progression of trans rights has been a direct result of the global connection that comes from usage of social media. People 100 years ago wouldn't believe that today people of color have the same rights as white people, and yet here we are. Public opinion changes. And have you never heard a word with multiple meanings? They/them can be referring to a group of people or an ungendered person. That's literally google's definition of the word... You will not be seen as an enemy for misgendering someone by accident, you will be seen as the enemy when someone asks you to refer to them with a certain pronoun and you deliberately ignore their wishes. It is not asking much to change the pronouns you are using when you speak to someone.
This straight up looked like a high school debate with people constantly making faces and talking over each other. The purpose of debates like these is to learn from the other side, not scoff and get offended by what the other side has to say.
Bernie is no longer a progressive like he was in 2016. He's embraced the far left SJW lunacy and for that has almost no chance of winning the nomination and zero chance of winning the general election.
@@nekad2000 , there is nothing ''far left'' in sjw, they are all about ,,me! me! me! muh opprrrresssion!'' shit, complete distraction from real problems of the people and they are totally supported by establishment media and hollywood clique...there is no real any kind of left or real conservative in the U.S., just ,,it's all about me, I'm important'' post modern consumerism-corporatism policy by those groups...there is nothing ''left'' about it, neither conservative, nor progressive...