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@nick-andrewvath5045 2 года назад

They pull out Bible verses like it's a rap battle

@daisylovers3655 2 года назад

As they should.

@CJXcars 2 года назад

@@daisylovers3655 yes sir.

@kevinfernandez1929 2 года назад

@@daisylovers3655 amen

@tshetij 2 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@deninpaul7509 2 года назад

Im wheeezingg 😂😂

@alicethemadrabbit1842 3 года назад

"Oh, he's gay... What a twist!" "Oh, she's gay... What a twist!" "Oh, he's gay too?? What a twist!"

@Melissa-gh6wg 3 года назад

LMFAO FACTS

@ChonosTack 3 года назад

The black conservative gay guy is interesting, but also really sad.

@deseann1591 3 года назад

ChonosTack yeah it’s another way of how religion kind of blackmails you as in either you live in a box your whole life or you go to hell. That sounds like blackmail to me

@unda2147 3 года назад

Spoiler alert?!?!??

@sharonolatunbosun7098 3 года назад

@@deseann1591 true

@elijahdaves1305 7 месяцев назад

"If we take the Bible literally, everyone in this room is sinning." Um...yes. That's literally the whole point.

@caliblur1038 6 месяцев назад

😂😂 fax

@cagedguitarist1208 6 месяцев назад

Preach!

@crespeakslife 6 месяцев назад

The whole point!!!

@telisharansome2920 5 месяцев назад

exactly what I said lol

@QuackersMcCrackers 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I'm as athiest as they come but even *I* knew that.

@ebbypetes 9 месяцев назад

Conservative Christian= bible based Progressive Christian= feelings based.

@michaelplauche9901 6 месяцев назад

I agree with this. Progressive christians to me sound like lukewarm Christians because they want to go by their personal feelings and not the bible with their choices.

@briahumble1858 5 месяцев назад

Yes

@BennetDee 5 месяцев назад

That’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard 😂

@ethandollarhide7943 5 месяцев назад

More like: Progressive Christian: Believes in Freedom Conservative Christian: Believes in Theocracy.

@jcc.21 5 месяцев назад

@@theprospect5888wym incorrect 😂

@sliceofyourlyfe5794 2 года назад

The Asian woman in this video asked why are divorced people allowed to participate in the church when the bible says they shouldn't but homosexuals are barred? No one answered her question, everyone just blew over it.

@emberwilliams8902 2 года назад

And it was one of the strongest points of that conversation too...They couldn't address it without breaking down their own hypocrisy.

@kaluoji4415 2 года назад

Because divorce is allowed in christianity, in the case of adultery. Therefore, if a person gets a divorce because they couldn't continue their marriage because their spouse cheated on them (or the other way round), then they can still serve in the church.

@p0rnany0ne 2 года назад

@@kaluoji4415 why is divorce allowed when it is clearly condemned in the Bible?

@isopoika256 2 года назад

@@p0rnany0ne Matthew 19:9 (ESV) And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery. Note that Jesus does not say this is the only reason for divorce. We find other reasons for divorce in Scripture.

@Carolina_Berean 2 года назад

This is what I always bring up and them same thing happens. People just ignore it.

@oliviak9978 3 года назад

I can’t believe Jubilee filmed my family getting together for the holidays

@beccareid4816 3 года назад

lmao

@annabortion7394 3 года назад

PLEASEEEEE LMAOOO

@RoseColoredGlasses 3 года назад

Hahaha yessss

@breanna1346 3 года назад

Hahaha

@thespeedster7700 3 года назад

😅

@soy.ingrid 8 месяцев назад

“That’s a lot of self-control” the fruit of the Spirit is self-control 😂

@taonanosihlez5268 6 месяцев назад

thats what i thought as well😂, like we are meant to bear the fruits of the Spirit

@kadianedobor1715 6 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with complimenting that in a brethren.

@Drowning_Girl 4 месяца назад

Excellent observation.

@len-1768 4 месяца назад

@@taonanosihlez5268*fruit. If it's fruits, we'll end up cherry-picking which traits to have and which ones to reject. We need all nine traits together.

@MargaretCutt-um8iq 19 дней назад

exactly, and part of being Christian is being able to live beyond self. We fail but must strive to do better.

@lamis5348 8 месяцев назад

Watching as a non American, I think half the problem is there has been a mixture with faith and politics.

@user-nc8yb7uq6q 4 месяца назад

Watching this as a Catholic is a very different experience

@ranYRMOM 3 месяца назад

so true

@jessebartunek3195 25 дней назад

Wow, as an American Protestant that is converting to Catholicism I see this so different now than I would have a few years ago.

@drfenderfunk 2 дня назад

Which continent are you from? I'm asking out of curiosity, because Europeans, Africans, South Americans, and Asians would all take very different things from this I presume.

@katiesbothers 3 года назад

"People in the church hurt you, not God." - Oof that struck a chord.

@HoodedSpidey 3 года назад

For arguments sake, humans hurt you outside the church too. As an omnipotent being, is God hurting you by not preventing your harm?

@masochistic_lele4414 3 года назад

I just feel the building doesn’t matter. It’s the relationship with god.

@Hello-qf3fd 3 года назад

@@HoodedSpidey The simple answer is that God gave us free will. That means we as humans can use that free will to do harm or to do good. We just can't _blame_ God for our actions because we have autonomy.

@elysian8823 3 года назад

righty

@Dina-vy7we 3 года назад

@@Hello-qf3fd exactly

@kaitllynmcnerney8364 3 года назад

“People in the church hurt you, not God.”

@sxmone2018 3 года назад

God made those people that hurt you

@glodimvovi2345 3 года назад

@@sxmone2018 he didn’t make them hurt anyone people have free will they chose to hurt

@jasminemurillo903 3 года назад

Saucy Buckets32 god made those people have the free will to choose so yes god made those people hurt you.

@glodimvovi2345 3 года назад

@@jasminemurillo903 he didn’t make them to hurt, he made people and gave them the option to choose. If they choose to hurt, they chose to hurt, if they choose to do good they chose to do good

@Neon_Distortion 3 года назад

@@sxmone2018 more like satan

@arcyknows 6 месяцев назад

“You already have an agenda & your trying to fit the Bible into that agenda instead of accepting the Gospel for what it is.” Perfectly said.

@sallygirl1012 4 месяца назад

My agenda came after I started reading the Bible. How can you follow something that contradicts itself consistently. The Bible is full of human sin.

@cetsy2023 4 месяца назад

How?

@w4rsh1p 4 месяца назад

And what it is is a hateful violent disturbing book that we know cannot be true.

@christopherpearson2116 4 месяца назад

Well, it endorses (for life, too) slavery, for one... Also, captive brides... in several cases. And as for how... censuses... are handled: In 2 Samuel 24...? Odd. Macabre.@@cetsy2023

@MCKingM4RTIN 3 месяца назад

@@sallygirl1012there are no contradictions

@user-ps2ic2xp3z 8 месяцев назад

It’s crazy how true the Bible is when it says ‘Many will come to me and say “Lord, Lord, did we not cast out demons in your name?’ And I will say ‘Depart from me, you evil doers”. It’s sad 😞 but it’s true.

@jonathananderson699 5 месяцев назад

Just proving that this book is filled with lies because it wants people to constantly never know where they stand and to live in fear

@jorgealbertobruno10 Месяц назад

I was thinking about the same verse towards the end of this video.

@drfenderfunk 2 дня назад

…Like the people who care more about supporting and glorifying an unrepentant, adulterous criminal and bullying liberals than they do following Christ and His teachings. They will be held accountable just as much as you (likely, going off your statement) think progressives will.

@soleillouise8955 3 года назад

"homosexuals, transgenders, and people who break the speed limit" ah yes, the htpwbtsl community

@joshmeadows4067 3 года назад

How is this not the top comment I'M DEAD hahahahaha

@imawesomepersonDERP 3 года назад

LMAO

@booorue4876 3 года назад

I don't appreciate how hard this made me laugh.

@veronievicky 3 года назад

this comment wins on so many levels XD

@ChicoCabra 3 года назад

@@joshmeadows4067 Agreed

@stefano215 Год назад

They were trading bible verses like it’s a rap battle 😩

@prodby.kansha Год назад

🤣

@inactivetiffany3772 Год назад

Bars 😂

@eaglementality1204 Год назад

So I watched the one with conservative/liberal Muslims…. Comment section: I love how he knows the Quran and is able to recite it . Wish I knew (and could quote) the Bible the same Christians do the same: Oh, you’re weaponizing the scriptures against people and using them like rap battles

@caligurl8770 Год назад

Yeah 😅

@bluebellbeatnik4945 Год назад

they need to do a hamilton musical of this

@Pollyanna4123 8 месяцев назад

This was the most calm and respectful middle ground I’ve watched😂

@brianag1175 8 дней назад

❤christains❤

@DJ_Orangutan 7 месяцев назад

Angel and Jason being the only ones able to quote scripture says everything.

@Ni-wl9uh 5 месяцев назад

What about the mysoginystic verses in the bible?

@obedmartinez5825 5 месяцев назад

💯💯💯

@Djr127 5 месяцев назад

@@Ni-wl9uhwhich ones?

@pythondrink 5 месяцев назад

@@Djr127hang on

@GottesgrosszuegigeGnade 5 месяцев назад

@@pythondrink @Ni-wl9uh when are they coming? There are non

@PINQINQ 3 года назад

These dudes spitting versus like it’s a rap battle

@BLJ023 3 года назад

Ok!!... I'm over here like.." Oh no he didn't ", "you better say that", "finish him" lol.

@pjschaaf414 3 года назад

💀

@pauljones6629 3 года назад

😂😂😂😂

@ziggystardust2435 3 года назад

@Luke Monsensey yes there was...? lol

@LeeKnowsCatss 3 года назад

Bible study is like that at my church lol

@sirTina 3 года назад

Ciara was just like “homosexuality is a sin” and then Curt was like “so anyways my husband and I” I’m dead asf 😭😂 Edit: I do not indorse any kind of homophobia or discrimination of the LGBTQ+ community. Keep your hateful comments to yourself.

@lavieenrose5334 3 года назад

My guy was so eloquent

@emmanuelaadebisi5743 3 года назад

We have to stan

@lapislazuli3793 3 года назад

@@emmanuelaadebisi5743 no thanks

@stefvnbrssl8601 3 года назад

@@lapislazuli3793 lol why not

@lapislazuli3793 3 года назад

@@stefvnbrssl8601 cause its not good to ignore sins lol

@wham1984 8 месяцев назад

I’m so glad Angel and Jason are standing firm and speaking truth! Excited to meet them one day

@rangariraikunedzimwe2780 7 месяцев назад

They're NOT! They are terrified of the LGBTQ community 🏃‍♂️💨💨

@Xxx-ei6ff 7 месяцев назад

The black Jeffrey Dahmer is annoying

@Dan-jp8jr 6 месяцев назад

@@Xxx-ei6ffwhy

@kailah7812 6 месяцев назад

@@Xxx-ei6ff😂😂😂

@toddyboi7898 5 месяцев назад

Amen

@Miyykael 6 месяцев назад

Omg that line "I have desires and Inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord!" That sent me what a line

@j.keshie 6 дней назад

Such a great way to put it

@fd6864 3 года назад

"homosexuals, transgenders, people who break the speed limit..." when i tell you i screamed aloud

@cookie508 3 года назад

RIGHT!!! my jaw dropped

@lacybarrier4439 3 года назад

Yelling at screen like it’s a football game

@thefantastictwo1356 3 года назад

@@lacybarrier4439 TOTALLY HAHA

@andrewstewart8798 3 года назад

this guy hasnt seen northern utah highways

@tobiasgross6899 3 года назад

literallay

@rodelremolana1155 3 года назад

I can imagine them taking a shower, regretting about the arguments they could have said

@nataly4426 3 года назад

THISSS!

@erenjaeger1738 3 года назад

@@nataly4426 ur pfp say it all. "PERIOD"

@manualLaborer 3 года назад

or maybe they brought a mic to drop, but didn't say anything cool enough

@HiHello-cw9vc 3 года назад

IKRR

@nataly4426 3 года назад

@@erenjaeger1738 PURRR LMFAOAO

@cdpyouth 8 месяцев назад

"I have a tendency to follow the voice of the Lord" 🔥🔥🔥

@michaelrogers3857 2 месяца назад

Bars

@darenrrful Месяц назад

if youre hearing things, seek mental help

@cdpyouth Месяц назад

@darenrrful ok....keep that same energy when they come identifying as xyz...

@E.j- 6 месяцев назад

Yall need to put Cliff Knetchle in one of these😂

@Estherokuwa Месяц назад

Frrr

@UnKnown-hx2bg 18 дней назад

And Sam Shamoun

@katiebells8024 3 года назад

The girl made a really good point about divorce vs homosexuality that no one countered.

@greenergrass4060 3 года назад

Yeah, youre right. I think because Divorce is a "one-time" sin. Whilst homosexual relations last Long-term , and therefore become "lifestyles".

@amartinez589 3 года назад

@katiebells the Bible explicitly states that God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. If someone was divorced prior to becoming a Christian they are not going to be excluded from service. If someone was practicing homosexuality prior to becoming Christian they should not be excluded either. But no one can claim to be a Christian and also practice homosexuality. They also cannot claim to be Christian and desire divorce.

@greenergrass4060 3 года назад

@@amartinez589 what are your thoughts on Annulment? Or legal, state-appointed marriage?

@poocrayon4588 3 года назад

Most no fault divorces would be a sin in Gods eyes. But I guess it was Eve that ate the apple and women do initiate 85% of divorce and feminists were the ones that fought for no fault divorce so its no surprise

@jermerygrug3090 3 года назад

@@greenergrass4060 I was just about to say this good onya mate

@richardlew3667 3 года назад

To my fellow Americans. God is not a Republican nor is He a Democrat because He is not an American!

@fionafiona1146 3 года назад

It's depressing to see you struggle with the two party system over 70 years after approving Fashisem retardend pluralistic more representative systems and having security reports on them.

@declangorman4290 3 года назад

idk about god but Jesus was definitely a socialist, if not a communist

@independent_bully_maguire9320 3 года назад

yep.

@independent_bully_maguire9320 3 года назад

@@declangorman4290 nope he would probably be Libertarian.

@fionafiona1146 3 года назад

@@independent_bully_maguire9320 the whole "follow the law (of the land, temple and being subservient)" parts do not fit that. Not to mention the "give and your will receive".

@emiliodelvalle4093 9 месяцев назад

The point that Ángel defends is that basing life around desire and impulses leads us to an empty life, because the heart is insatiable, the more you satisfy its desires, the more it wants

@Acts-238 9 месяцев назад

Yes the Bible says lust is never fulfilled.

@kolawoleabimbola2264 8 месяцев назад

The Bible is the standard 💯

@ThiccBoi23 8 месяцев назад

Delusional

@Visionsofyvonne 8 месяцев назад

😮‍💨 i think you said it best

@Nisikaa_ 7 месяцев назад

Aren't you then still trying to fulfill an overall desire for a full life?

@bvumazonke 8 месяцев назад

Jason and Angel ATE

@khunli7 8 месяцев назад

PERIOD, THEY SECURED THE BAGGG

@TZ19999 15 дней назад

Lmao no. Seek help.

@rashidalhassoun8368 3 года назад

this is probably the only channel on youtube where sensitive topics like this can be discussed without world war three happening

@ihavenousername6340 3 года назад

The comments may have to disagree with that World war three part

@lovernotafighter6942 3 года назад

true but then the comment section can get messy.

@fos1451 3 года назад

You forgot to read the comment buddy?

@kelz4965 3 года назад

Except the vegan and flat earthers Then yes

@myaschultheis3004 3 года назад

agreed 😂

@imalwayspanicking 3 года назад

“People in the church hurt you, not God.” THAT. I love that.

@kovanashae1762 3 года назад

They use god to hurt you so I see where they’re coming from as a Christian.

@Eddie-oy6hv 3 года назад

AMennnn!!!!💛💛💛💛

@tinybubs6145 3 года назад

Curt is my new favorite person

@charl7346 3 года назад

@@kovanashae1762 You know who else was hurt by religious people? Jesus. He was killed by them. He didn't blame God for the things men did to him.

@KenWBO 3 года назад

Now that I think about it. That’s a key point many people don’t seem to realize...

@TheJayKellz 7 месяцев назад

To be honest this conversation could have been alot longer with more biblical context underlining each major discourse

@chryztyn24q 8 месяцев назад

I love how free, unbiased and unafraid discussions of very sensitive topics are in Jubilee in it’s entirety not just on this video 🙏🙌🎉

@gracienorris7775 3 года назад

“it was the people who hurt you in the church not God” wow that really hit me

@xadielplasencia3674 3 года назад

The people are the only ones there, so... Who did you expect?

@carsonbrooks1326 3 года назад

@@xadielplasencia3674 ok man, if people want to believe that way, let them

@saigie3908 3 года назад

I loved that quote. Ppl need to stop holding God to a human standard

@xadielplasencia3674 3 года назад

@@carsonbrooks1326 I agree, till that starts affecting me.

@carsonbrooks1326 3 года назад

@@xadielplasencia3674 the second it affected you was when you clicked on this video and the moment you started typing in the comments.

@Marilynefc 3 года назад

“The people in the church hurt me. God did not hurt me” 🥺❤️

@Pseudynom 3 года назад

The only way to stop a bad guy with a god is a good guy with a god.

@DanLuxe 3 года назад

Atheist here. Same. That got me.

@elijahtrent21 3 года назад

Praise God

@wiswc 3 года назад

Can we ban emojis already?!

@cocoajames5 3 года назад

right. i feel like people group the members of the church with God themselves and it ruins the message. that's why a lot of people that have met bad christians end up hating God and the religion itself and not the people. 😔

@justarandomweeb4234 8 месяцев назад

20:02 I believe that when you’re able to straight up say that you don’t believe certain parts of the Bible then you have a big issue

@Megalaglag Месяц назад

Yup, she is a heretic

@Estherokuwa Месяц назад

That’s craaaaaazy

@originalslicey Месяц назад

I don't know who all needs to hear this, but THE BIBLE IS NOT LITERAL.

@UrMom-jq8my Месяц назад

@@originalslicey Of course most parts aren't, but that doesn't take away its absolute credibility.

@Kevintendo 19 дней назад

Many Christians believe lots of the Bible is metaphorical, allegorical, etc.. 7 days of creation, anyone?

@Mattmaxi 8 месяцев назад

Wow, I think talks like this should be held often... It's beautiful to behold... It's so not aggressive, the answers came in softly, and gentle. And every bit of it came out nice. Thank you

@buttercruffie 3 года назад

im not religious but im kinda lowkey impressed at how they can memorize and just reference random verses

@Godzilladad 3 года назад

You would too, if you read the Bible every day

@hannah.liu.04 3 года назад

@Kaleela Edwards john 3:16 be like

@yes2542 3 года назад

It’s a lot easier than it seems. Especially when the same verses are preached week after week

@berkozkan3922 3 года назад

Just looks like someone wasting precious time bruh

@assholebyginger 3 года назад

@@Godzilladad I've read my own holy book several times from a young age, I cannot recite verses 😭 Btw I've never stopped reading it, I read like three or so pages every day of the working week (so not weekends) I've been doing this since I was 12

@SmartistaBeauty 3 года назад

I read the title and said oooo this finna be a tussle

@carolinemm9478 3 года назад

Bri me too 🤭

@ash4486 3 года назад

Right 😭

@mimihitmewithaspatulaandca3677 3 года назад

Facts

@lelasharp1144 3 года назад

Exactly 💀💀I kept commenting fact checking the things the conservative Christians where saying

@inokerogoyawa 3 года назад

A tussle !! LOL

@shanereignz8662 9 месяцев назад

Jason was on point. I thought i was progressive until i heard this conversation. I disagreed with most if not all the statements. This was insightful and thought provoking❤

@PreachTh3Truth 7 месяцев назад

Hello! I am a conservative Christian too! Two questions: how are you doing today? What points did you find yourself disagreeing with for either side?

@joselinlopez4457 9 месяцев назад

I think it the only video I have seen in people have different beliefs and talking about it so peaceful

@gilliandoplemore9357 3 года назад

This is not Liberal Christians vs. Republican Christians, it is Progressive Christians vs. Conservative Christians. There is a difference that does not relate directly to politics.

@christophermorillo369 3 года назад

i mean it does relate directly to politics which is why they talk about various policy (abortion, marriage) and why 2/3 conservative Christians and 0/3 progressive Christians said republicans were more Christ-like.

@walker7155 3 года назад

how does this not relate to politics when all they talk about is politics?

@gilliandoplemore9357 3 года назад

@@christophermorillo369 Maybe in the context of this video, but in general it’s bigger than politics. There’s a different that goes beyond parties.

@gilliandoplemore9357 3 года назад

@@walker7155 maybe in the context of this video, but overall, there is more to it.

@walker7155 3 года назад

@@gilliandoplemore9357 maybe they don’t talk about issues you feel they should talk about, but the video is based on their individual association with either republican, or libertarian.

@nidamerchant1935 3 года назад

progressive vs conservative muslims would be such a good topic

@shzarmai 3 года назад

Sunnis vs Shia muslims would be very interesting to see tbh

@danabarakat1816 3 года назад

nope. Conservative Muslims stand by what they believe in regardless. You cannot sway their opinions nor can you have a simple conversation about differing views. That's MY experience being born Muslim and no longer identifying with Islam in my community. The majority of conservative Muslims believe they are one hundred percent correct in every idea that they have been taught and even discussing different ideas/views is regarded as sinful. Not much of a discussion would ever happen (in my opinion).

@danabarakat1816 3 года назад

@@shzarmai I highly doubt it would be civil though.

@shzarmai 3 года назад

@@danabarakat1816 Ok I would still like to see it though regardless lol

@danabarakat1816 3 года назад

@@shzarmai I mean, it would most likely be a lot of bickering, yelling, and arguing and people constantly interrupting one another... just what I picture, lol. I mean in my Muslim community people get in actual fights about religion and it's just so unhealthy, but if that's what you want to watch... lol.

@deadaccount6004 5 месяцев назад

I was a progressive/liberal christian before, but then I became conservative, not only because I started to read more bible, but because I knew I was in the wrong side.

@sallygirl1012 4 месяца назад

The more I read the Bible the less I want to follow it. Contradiction after contradiction. Yet you choose to ignore it for the sake of your agenda.

@lenoirsolo1978 4 месяца назад

You say that but then you quite literally do not understand it. Yet, I bet you’ve contradicted yourself but in similar fashion to what you claim “you ignore it”.

@corwynprice1065 2 месяца назад

@@sallygirl1012 what contradictions might that be?

@hiyves9880 2 месяца назад

@@sallygirl1012 why not give us some examples if theres so many

@phi4721 Месяц назад

@@sallygirl1012 human beings are contradictory, should I stop being human?

@iem123 7 месяцев назад

Great to see Angel and Jason being both respectful to the progressive “Christians” but also being very firm in their stance on the bible being completely true. You can’t call yourself a Christian and turn around and disregard large parts of what he’s said and they were respectful but firm about that fact

@yennifercortez6961 6 месяцев назад

Amen

@historysyourbestfriend5500 2 месяца назад

Neither can the “conservative” Christians. They don’t follow Christianity to the T either so what they’re not Christian? Don’t begin w that.

@anastasiareid3333 3 года назад

As a black student who attends private school, I would love to see black private school kids vs. black public school students, I think that would be interesting and a great experience

@ericanation2458 3 года назад

Love this idea!!

@anastasiareid3333 3 года назад

@@ericanation2458 thank youuuu+

@kemidada6371 3 года назад

YESS!! Or African Americans versus people who grew up in Africa

@Dude-dx5ns 3 года назад

@Tiarra How??

@goggle2233 3 года назад

@@Dude-dx5ns both side look down each other a lot so it may be hard but I do want to see it

@carloshinojosa9824 3 года назад

idk how these people remember verses lol. All I learned in Catholic School: God is good all the time; all the time, God is good.

@hzlkelly 3 года назад

Because you don't read the Bible for yourself.

@skappy8307 3 года назад

samee cuz i don’t have time to memorize the Bible i would rather do something productive

@lotus8650 3 года назад

a lot of people “know” verses only to argue their point.

@arrow2589 3 года назад

It starts when you're a kid and years and years of brainwashing later it's pretty well indoctrinated

@carloshinojosa9824 3 года назад

@@skappy8307 lol, like breathing

@shannonhaworth2098 8 месяцев назад

It is HARD watching people justify sin so blatantly 😢

@kap849 8 месяцев назад

And so passionately too while claiming to be Christians 😭. It's heartbreaking.

@evontheone 8 месяцев назад

tell me about it 🥲

@ryanlindback9393 7 месяцев назад

It’s so sad.. pray for them..

@VasatiBrown 7 месяцев назад

So true!!! They even twisted what the Bible says. Lol

@user-sk7zc1fc5u 7 месяцев назад

"sin" is a word only in Christianity.

@kaitlincampbell2405 6 месяцев назад

That’s got to be the most civil and mature Middle Ground I’ve ever seen❤

@ariellaccorrea 3 года назад

i wish this was longer episode bc these topics never get discussed like thissss

@ariellak5088 3 года назад

someone with the same name as me?!

@maryg9818 3 года назад

I know right? as a conservative Christian I don't see this kind of good discussion often

@Vic-hc4rr 3 года назад

@@maryg9818 Exactly!! You can't find this stuff anywhere anymore

@skeleton5459 3 года назад

same!! i love the way they are discussing things properly. i've never seen an episode where the people discuss things like this.

@LeahMarieyt 3 года назад

Part 2!!

@someonee5084 2 года назад

Her saying being gay is a sin and him immediately afterwards saying he's gay is weirly hilarious and sad.

@weirdlanguageguy 2 года назад

having gay tendancies, or tendancies towards anything believed to be wrong, isnt a sin. Engaging in those things are

@kamusta3446 2 года назад

@@weirdlanguageguy So your saying Heterosexuals can marry, adopt kids, make love. while Homosexuals just stand there like a statue? What the actual hell is wrong with your brain?

@jadenphilander8799 2 года назад

@@kamusta3446 So when I have an impulse to drink, it is a natural impulse but to act on it and get drunk is a sin. So the life of a christian, muslim, jew is also about trying to control your impulses.

@kamusta3446 2 года назад

@@jadenphilander8799 So your saying not to treat LGBT people as equal? what is also wrong with your brain?

@dalsegno7001 2 года назад

@@kamusta3446 oof, that struck your nerve didn’t it? 💀💀

@gerard7417 7 месяцев назад

Angel and Jason are my favorite they spoke facts and fighting against evil hidden in plain sight , respectfully ofc , no doubt. Lol .

@va.j 7 месяцев назад

I’m glad that Jason was present !

@Honeycoupe Год назад

"Born again Christians vs Ex-Christians" would be a great episode.

@gracenartey4830 Год назад

💯 … just waiting for that

@realtalkwithphil Год назад

Yup

@marsjokes Год назад

Still waiting

@marsjokes Год назад

It would be interesting to have @Gothix on the Born Again side too

@Honeycoupe Год назад

@@marsjokes and @Jaclyn on the Ex Christians side.

@acidmizer 3 года назад

as a non-religious person, this was rather interesting.

@nicholasgee9127 3 года назад

It is misleading.

@vincenzorutigliano5435 3 года назад

It's just American protestants fighting over what does it mean to be protestant

@natesalinas3736 3 года назад

@@vincenzorutigliano5435 Progressive Christianity is like a Doctor telling you that you can drink a 2 liter of Soda a day, and you will still be Healthy. Because it makes you feel good. Oh but make sure you get your carrots in too.

@jackryan7357 3 года назад

same ol

@vincenzorutigliano5435 3 года назад

@@natesalinas3736 Protestantism is the first step down to atheism.

@Jessica-gs1hv Месяц назад

Angel is very brave. I'm so glad I found this video!

@sheekyking 8 месяцев назад

Jason always made me cry 🥹

@taliyah2639 3 года назад

The bald man is so calm and he makes me feel so safe 😂

@Slawsers 3 года назад

Making me turn gay

@cauliflower2003 3 года назад

Sameee his voice felt like a warm hug 🤗

@kanine_2550 3 года назад

That's a tad sus m8

@kittennight3305 3 года назад

@@Slawsers I get that lol

@taliyah2639 3 года назад

@@cauliflower2003 yessss it felt exactly like that

@hellriser__ 3 года назад

LMAO ciara saying "i can't say you're going to hell because i don't know your relationship with god" compared to the other conservative dude who straight said "no offense you're going to hell"

@drhemaword 3 года назад

And he is if he's living in sin....... Duhhhhhhh

@gladiator8325 3 года назад

It’s easy to determine if someone’s heading to hell by their doctrine

@TheWeekndsFan 3 года назад

@@drhemaword Wdym Yes living in sin?

@panacea26947 3 года назад

You can't be progressive and christian at the same time lmao

@user-gh5hu8mh2q 3 года назад

@@panacea26947 YES!

@voiceofthefathertv 9 месяцев назад

“I have a tendency and desire to eat certain foods doesn’t mean I should just accept who I am”

@nateandsimills7298 16 дней назад

Love the angel guy and the Asian guy they were speaking the truth and trying to be nice about it and kept referring to the word

@fishels3895 3 года назад

Do conservative atheists vs liberal Christians lol

@theglutton1815 3 года назад

I’ve meet those lol

@hazel6323 3 года назад

I would pay so much to see that.

@chriscraig6353 3 года назад

Wait no cus that would be so crazy but yes let's do it

@dariusd2003 3 года назад

Wow that's an interesting dynamic. I'd be curious what each camp believes and how they defend their viewpoints.

@brandontrammel4581 3 года назад

I'm liberal Christian or progressive

@ashleycouch9084 3 года назад

“God did not hurt me, it was the people in the church who hurt me”. Love this so much

@brendonbuffaloe8830 3 года назад

I’m sorry that you love that statement. It’s very sad that that happened to you. The church is meant to be encouraging and comforting to its members, so I question whether or not the church you went to is built on Christ.

@c.l.4883 3 года назад

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 many are actually not and that’s a tough pill to swallow for many.

@brendonbuffaloe8830 3 года назад

@@c.l.4883 I agree. But know that they do not represent what Christianity is supposed to be

@c.l.4883 3 года назад

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 indeed

@lynnryan3727 3 года назад

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 the church hurts a lot of people sadly, and while I resonated with that statement, personally I came to that realization too late. They hurt me in such a deep and personal way that i don't think I'll ever feel comfortable associating myself with anything that has an Abrahamic label. And there are more and more people every day who come to that conclusion. It sucks, but i feel more at peace with myself today without Christianity than i ever did with it, and i will never give that up for what's equivalent to an abusive family again.

@Waffles4903 7 месяцев назад

Even my mind is torn apart by the bias of religion versus non-religion almost all the time. These types of kindness helps my own biases stabilize.

@juliuspleaser4675 4 месяца назад

The form of slavery referred to in The Bible wasn’t the kind you enter unwillingly. It was the last and only protection from destitution many people had. They often would suffer some misfortune and get hired for x amount of time until they were sorted. It was actually closer to a labor-based social protection program than chattel slavery.

@christopherpearson2116 4 месяца назад

You are, sadly... less than fully honest, in several respects, @juliuspleaser4675 . Many read, Leviticus 25:46... And do not come to the same conclusions that you do, on this topic so far. Same, for Exodus 21:20. Words like 'bequeath' and 'for life', begin to give some potential clues, for example.

@Beefy_McWhatnow Месяц назад

Yes, there were varying levels of slavery but people defaulting to debt slavery entered unwillingly. No one wants to go through that. The Romans also did have chattel slavery

@smidvargthegreat9004 3 дня назад

regardless of what the other two guys in the comments are saying kudos to you for knowing that. I was wondering If anyone in this comments section would mention that. most people imagine the cotton fields when they hear the word slavery but that wasn't what the bible talks about at all.

@myaruth6010 3 года назад

“People in the church hurt you, not God” is the best line because people don’t realize this and it hurts them more than anything. Edit: I said this because I know people who questioned their faith because of how the people of the church acted towards them and others.

@yaelfox2906 3 года назад

I got chills

@blackarchon8778 3 года назад

Thats why you should leave the church.

@TornadoeJoe 3 года назад

@@blackarchon8778 That's the furthest thing from the truth.

@Lebronwski 3 года назад

@@frogpoop397 you shouldn’t leave because of the ppl. You should leave if the doctrines false or hateful

@evas1463 3 года назад

Very true!! Religion is mostly about finding hope in someone greater than us and having a community but people seem to forget that, which is why we have those religious wars and people baptizing others and tearing them down, just because they want their religion to justify their own racism/homophobia or hate in general, when it really doesn't!!

@nono-mu9rw 3 года назад

how do they quote the bible like that when I can't even remember song lyrics

@brookepettenati3323 3 года назад

right 😭😭

@hydrolito 3 года назад

Jesus loves me this I know because the bible tells me so, little ones to he belong they are weak but he is strong. yes Jesus loves me, yes Jesus loves me the bible tells me so. I remember that from when I was a child. Although no longer claim to believe in any god.

@marcilk7534 3 года назад

They work at memorizing it. I have difficulty memorizing too.

@mollie-maiellmer6607 3 года назад

Bible*

@clarissafairchild16 3 года назад

I can quote one verse and that's it. And that's bc it was drilled into my head during bible study in third grade...I'm now in 9th grade and agnostic

@ij1376 9 месяцев назад

21:23 this guy is so gentle, but he's got guts calling them out

@dhfocus7 4 месяца назад

Best part of the conversation. Needed to be said.

@everydaydadfixinit4803 9 месяцев назад

I can truly appreciate Curt...seems to be a gentle soul

@Munenejr 3 года назад

I’m Christian, been most of my life. The real question is how do people memorize verses so well. Do they just walk around reciting them ?

@reichan8363 3 года назад

Could be. You can also do it if you choose to memorize them.

@adreannasears994 3 года назад

I just read them over and over and pray about memorization.

@adreannasears994 3 года назад

@@n.g.l. reciting yes, but it does take personal disciple to actually memorize them. I have a difficult time reciting if I haven’t made any effort to memorize

@GR-dw9nm 3 года назад

@@reichan8363 When you want to force an agenda you tend to vomit the same nonsense over and over.

@gosh_jm 3 года назад

Ikr!!! I think it would be really cool to know verses like that. Knowing what verse to say at what moment would be really cool.

@Jojo_Ojo_14 3 года назад

Angel said “as Americans, you all have rights” after Olivia said she wasn’t American.

@eriley7809 3 года назад

I noticed that too. I really hope it was editing or he just didn’t think of how that sounded.

@lerulara 3 года назад

I think he forgot, after she said it I forgot as well until you mentioned it, I mean she just seems like such a sweet girl and with the way she speaks she doesn't sound like from another country.

@floritahhh 3 года назад

OMG TRUE like why would he even say "as Americans" are other nationalities....not included...?

@Wintermute01001 3 года назад

There's a really weird conflation with Christianity and American nationalism among conservative Americans.

@beigemeoli7016 3 года назад

I don’t think he meant it against her I think he is leaning towards people who live in America weather you were born in a different country or not yk? Cuz I see anyone who lives in America as American

@DerekJohnson-vz9qg 5 месяцев назад

Let’s freaking go Angel and Jason

@SavyMarie20 Месяц назад

This was a very enlightening video for me.

@RoninDurey 3 года назад

when the conservative told everyone he was lowkey gay OOP... THIS EPISODE IS CRAZYYYYYYY

@alexcarlton4172 3 года назад

He's totally closeted, the deniers are usually gay ooh LMAOO

@woah7066 3 года назад

I deadass lost it

@roberthernandez5334 3 года назад

Lmaoooo, I knew it too, I was like, homie is gay, I’m so sad for him

@ebonyy5248 3 года назад

@@roberthernandez5334 why are u sad for him?

@MsAqaqSwsw 3 года назад

I’m a same-sex attracted to Christian and I found deliverance and freedom and joy and peace that everyone searches for through Jesus. It’s very so possible that he will be just fine if he keeps his faith in God. 🤗

@doctor1alex 3 года назад

Christians should never be defined by by politics but should definitely care about politics.

@crt1978 3 года назад

Good point

@eliesh3833 3 года назад

Agreed. There's nothing wrong with having political beliefs whilst being a person of faith, as long as those two things remain separate.

@DudeImWayBetter 3 года назад

@@eliesh3833 Completely disagree if you are to have political opinions they should come from a kingdom / Bible perspective. Not a worldly one.

@eliesh3833 3 года назад

@@DudeImWayBetter What does that even mean? Politics themselves are a worldly thing. That's why faith should be separate from political belief. If you base your faith entirely on politics, then it seems like you're believing in God for the wrong reasons. There's actually a verse that may support this. *Mark 12:17* "Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him." You may advocate whatever political beliefs that you want to, as long as your faith in God does not become intertwined with these things. Your spiritual faith should not be placed in people or material things, only in God. And if anything, I feel that being politically unbiased whilst supporting aspects of both sides is more Christ-like then just being one or the other. Both sides hold biblical values just as they both hold values that are unbiblical. Frankly, I don't think either political side is the "biblical" one. They're both just political ideologies that conflict one other in a myriad of ways.

@DudeImWayBetter 3 года назад

@@eliesh3833 nothing should be seperate from the kingdom / faith. If you have a belief that isn't first filtered through the Bible than what's the point of the Bible / your faith in the first place.

@gracious90 4 месяца назад

"I have desires and inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord" Angel 🙏🏿

@camilledeadwiler7266 3 года назад

I find it weird that the question asked “Would Jesus protest” and people explained why they didn’t protest... the question didn’t ask what y’all would or did do

@SailorAnthy 3 года назад

Thank You! I came to the comments looking for this

@_chade 3 года назад

You bring up a very good point, which essentially is the basis of religion: ONE’S own beliefs and interpretations that are then put on Jesus.

@nikolatheme5572 3 года назад

Ikr, personaly I don't believe in god but if I did I would want to believe that he would. Because I would only want to believe in kind God that wants to help people.

@enigmatic9118 3 года назад

Mind you, I'm not a christian, but I was born and raised one. Their responses to that question seem based on the fact they view Jesus as within them, and that Jesus is many things. If they did not participate, then Jesus would not participate, but they also explained why. Once again, I do not hold these beliefs, but I do want to help explain where they are coming from.

@my_cousin_mose9782 3 года назад

I thought it was odd too. I bet that was all edited out. I could be wrong but it seems more likely than them skirting around the question like that.

@bingusluvr2280 3 года назад

“people in the church hurt me, not god” amen

@galaxygalatics3255 3 года назад

People will still hate you or me where ever we go online or in real life even when you or me beleave in god or not there is aways going to be hate in the world

@dawoodalmas2476 3 года назад

Hisoka God loves you but you need to take your eyes off from Gon and Kilua

@bingusluvr2280 3 года назад

@@dawoodalmas2476 ooooooOoOH gOoOooon

@Unique_Monk 3 года назад

He’s a pastor - he married a man - he is committing one almighty sin Stop making God fit your narratives people - how can you believe in God then change his words to suit - unbelievable hypocrisy

@gitBritt 3 года назад

The church even hurt Christ, as in they killed him. At the time the church was the nation of Israel.

@lailah8691 4 месяца назад

”because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.“

@donitanelson6813 Месяц назад

Amen Angel !! May the Lord bless you with more than you’ve ever imagined for your obedience & faithfulness !! Amen 🙏🏾✝️

@Johnnyyogapants 3 года назад

I wish people would at least have open discussions like this more often.

@rinhubi7447 3 года назад

Yeah I would love to have in depth conversations like this with those close to me. It feels wholesome

@johnayotte1255 3 года назад

Agreed. I am a conservative and it’s nice to see and hear progressive side.

@alliwishis2652 3 года назад

Yea you wouldn't believe how many people just shoot past each other trying to get their own point across but not listen to anybody else

@toenelson1198 3 года назад

i would actually appreciate these discussions too, unfortunately people usually start denying people’s humanities after only a couple sentences

@yagurlg5482 3 года назад

Me too

@creamymarshmxllow2830 3 года назад

I don’t want to be nice to others to avoid going to hell. I want to be nice to others because I genuinely want to be a decent human being.

@honey-fo6ro 3 года назад

Jesus wasn’t nice because He didn’t want to go to hell. He was nice because He was, indeed, genuinely a nice person who never did anything wrong to anybody. In fact, His kindness was just the tip of the iceberg. He was and is SO much more than that, so having faith is about so much more than just being nice.

@yeehaw24 3 года назад

You missed the point.... we can’t go to heaven just because we force ourselves to be nice. You have to genuinely want to do it. I didn’t help kids in 6th grade with suicide and cutting themselves to make me look good and take me to Heaven. I did it because I wanted them to go to Heaven. You missed something.

@roguedaskill 3 года назад

Sounds like you're a Christian then.

@shomshomni2314 3 года назад

But here's the thing it is not our works that lead us to heaven, it is our faith in Jesus Christ. Christians just do the works because God is working through us but Jesus has already done the work and paid for us to be a part of His family with His blood. We are saved by grace not by works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8

@Miriam-xd6wp 3 года назад

@@yeehaw24 people suffering from self harm will still go to heaven

@ihavetwoos 9 месяцев назад

Love the answer of the brother in the brown jacket

@ihavetwoos 9 месяцев назад

At 13:43 he's spitting there

@lizconstantly4178 8 месяцев назад

It’s crazy how respectful everyone here is! I was completely expecting a screaming match of opinions. I’m not a Christian by any means and am certainly liberal in my beliefs but here there were a few points where I could really respect the conservative Christians.

@kashcow 3 года назад

When he said “I had homosexual inclinations” when I tell u, I have never screamed “IK IT” so loud.

@daddylonglegs3420 3 года назад

hun, with those glasses we been knew 💀

@norapeace6526 3 года назад

@@daddylonglegs3420 HOW???? Teach me your ways 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

@lilyfeist3841 3 года назад

Low key just want to give him a hug and tell him it’s okay to be gay...

@DizGaAlcam 3 года назад

@@norapeace6526 its called gaydar

@norapeace6526 3 года назад

@@DizGaAlcam I know what it’s called.. I’m trying to improve mine 😅

@carter9608 3 года назад

angel seems like the kinda dude who would tell me that 'i can still be saved' while patting my shoulder and smiling

@spookyho5994 3 года назад

hahaha yes

@kafkaesqueangel 3 года назад

i cant tell if this is for or not for angel 0-0

@_cherrychi_ 3 года назад

@@kafkaesqueangel LOL

@Lebronwski 3 года назад

Everyone deserves hell and we all need saving

@pippi2285 3 года назад

@@Lebronwski good thing hell doesn’t exist

@noahmchugh3769 8 месяцев назад

Mans said “I have desires and inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord” Amen brother.

@excancerpoik 8 месяцев назад

i love how Jason speaks

@ElmoTinker 3 года назад

I appreciated the texts referenced from scripture being displayed

@lotus9865 3 года назад

Thank you for letting us know.

@-Bloomingtales 3 года назад

Definitely!

@edelylora7172 3 года назад

Same!!

@evamae4934 3 года назад

yep!

@fysical7643 3 года назад

bro these people memorized the bible, I can't even remember what I had for dinner

@Eanna0228 3 года назад

Right 😭😭

@benborja3200 3 года назад

lol

@alainaholycross6586 3 года назад

and that's being a pastor and being deticated to the Lord :D

@emiliezylstra6589 3 года назад

Bruh same

@alainaholycross6586 3 года назад

@Filcher Gravesly Not a waste of time if you knew where you were goin when you die... and it ain't heaven (for now) and it ain't staying put in the ground. It breaks my heart to know there are so many (like you) people that don't and haven't come to realize what they're missing out on when they should go to the kingdom of God! :( :( bless your soul..

@paulinejulien9191 6 месяцев назад

As someone coming from a European country where atheism is the norm and religion is the exception, I actually find this fascinating to watch.

@fearisaliar3 3 месяца назад

Love watching everyone

@Jupiters_burns 3 года назад

ANGEL LITERALLY CAME OUT THE CLOSET, DID A SPIN AND WALKED RIGHT BACK IN.

@limewireomochao 3 года назад

Right!?

@court9311 3 года назад

😂

@HelloKittysFriend418 3 года назад

Yeeeeeshhhhhh

@memyself8942 3 года назад

Literally👨🏾‍🦼👨🏾‍🦼👨🏾‍🦼

@elifkfgl 3 года назад

he closed the closet door right in front of his face

@mariayustitia4598 3 года назад

respect to these people for not shouting at each other's faces when they're discussing... especially the blonde woman, wise behaviour at its finest.

@shawnadavis1130 3 года назад

Christianity at its finest...

@rockfacts3235 3 года назад

Brenda is amazing!

@teaguecogdill1473 3 года назад

Brenda is a class act.

@samantha-lx8nh 3 года назад

nah i feel like brenda was too judgemental

@urmom44751 3 года назад

we stan Brenda, if that was me i would've been yelling within the first 10 minutes lol

@msrivera360 2 месяца назад

I love the way Jason expresses himself. Hit all the nails!

@BlankF1lms 7 месяцев назад

JASON THE MENACE!!! This was a great video!!

@ntsikangeleza8218 2 года назад

The plot twist of the guy in the glasses coming out... Hectic

@bluesolace9052 2 года назад

Can't tell if I should be happy for him and celebrate him or be saddened with him and wish he came to terms with himself in a different manner

@atlf3357 2 года назад

It was so hard to watch

@RawNoLimits 2 года назад

Definitely was not expecting that

@piggy5057 2 года назад

I’m crying rn, he’s not accepting himself because of old scriptures that tell him how to live

@risingdoom 2 года назад

@@piggy5057 he chose to follow it so...

@owenhasler7590 3 года назад

“People who break the speed limit” Wait a damn minute...

@drhemaword 3 года назад

breaking the speed limit can't be compared to living in habitual sin.

@PepsighCO 3 года назад

I think it was a joke. Granted the bible does say just because we are christians we aren above the law (whether it means gods law or earthly law idk)

@saturn915 3 года назад

*Cue the gays can't drive jokes*

@hearthebellsring3990 3 года назад

seems like billie eilish is bouta be in some hot water [for reference if you didnt get it billie was in an interview and stated she goes 120 on the freeway. F]