"Life Coach" Cult Leader Forms College Student Cult | Lawrence Ray Case Analysis 

Growing up in NY, I can’t get enough of Grande’s digs at NJ. Slips them in at any chance he gets.

whats wrong with Jersey ??

I actually snorted.

I laughed out loud at this too… perfectly delivered!

It was so abrupt I couldn’t help but laugh 😂

Indeed. The ‘Rogue Agent’ statement 😆

I lived there for 3 years, worst place I ever lived in.😂

It was probably the best place, actually.

Yeah the Jersey thing was hilarious 😂

Not funny at all. I stopped watching right there 🤨

Damn I tick all the boxes but my social anxiety is so crippling I would end up burning the whole apartment down with them in there at the mere mention of sex

These students grew up middle class and sheltered, that's the problem. A sixteen year old who grew up in the ghetto would never fall for a fifty year old man trying to talk his way into moving into their living room.

And people with lots of $$$

@@kermitfrog593hey were not middle class. The three siblings especially so. Their parents don’t have money.

@Kermitfrog you sure about that? Why are they in the ghetto then? Streetsmart yes, crime is also high there. Sad, but true

Perhaps they were so open-minded their brains fell out.

@@peculiarlittleman5303😂😂😂

@@pema661 really ? How's that even acceptable or permitted by other parents? Or students for that matter.

Perhaps he registered for a class or two so he could live on campus.

Worrying about making sure transgenders could use the bathroom they identified with.

Critical thinking skills and reflective insights will not be good for the economy. The same insecurities that allow people to be hooked by marketing or social media are the same insecurities which allow cult leaders to recruit members. Cultism is not in contrast to normal society but an exaggeration in micro of the larger macro.

I agree with you, however I can also foresee the outcry from those claiming critical thinking skills is anti-religion.

Positive thinking rules

Hi Jen How are you today?🌹🌹

Sounds like you are jealous.

And I hope the former students are never placed in a place of leadership. Clearly they stupid and easily manipulated.

60 years in prison was his sentence

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The college has direct fault for allowing him to stay there. It's criminal negligence !

@@violent_bebop9687 at best! Smh

Seems to me that between something like this, traumatic brain injury in sports, hazing and Greek life abuses and widespread sexual assault of coeds, student safety seems to least of all concerns in US colleges/universities

You would be very surprised at how little they care about the safety of the students. That's why you hear so much about crimes that are committed on the campus

@@tiffanyeyoung1800 as always with overpaid administrators, they only understand LAWSUITS. But trans stuff they all on it every second!

And the naïve get crappy or harmful advice.

I agree, life coaches are grifters for sure

When i moved to California in 2002, i stayed with my friend, he had his friend's girlfriend's card on the fridge and it said "life coach"... I laughed thinking it was a joke... Then laughed harder when i found out it wasn't...

I followed a problematic Mormon housewife vlogger for several years. After making millions exploiting her children online, she started a life coaching cult with her son’s “therapist”. She even used some of the tactics this guy did, like having her family call out eachother’s flaws. If this poorly educated, not at all charming housewife can run a life coaching cult, anyone can. Thankfully, they are not particularly successful at recruitment, and even lost the 3 oldest members of her family. When the charming and intelligent criminals hear of the opportunities a life coaching scheme can provide, the world is in trouble.

I feel the same way about pastors. No qualifications other than the gift of gab.

He's not innocent. He participated in the sxual abuse Larry had set up & may have also paid for it along with other videos.

Worsr, he turned it into a college Cult.

Right. Lmao

Exactly. Why would I ever follow someone who can't get his sh*t together?!!

@@ahenwaa5133 that's the power of manipulation I guess

Ikr?😒🤯

The home wouldn't take him. 😆😆😆😆

@@lishamarlar4597 Guess not! He had to be a creepy weirdo and follow his daughter to college and manipulate/abuse people her age. It is so messed up.

I wonder if any of these people were able to sue the college for allowing this cult leader to stay in the dormitory, putting them in harm's way.

@@Carole67182 I was wondering the same thing 🤔

that was the most confusing part to me. I'm not from USA, so I dont know if it's a.common thing to do, to just have random people who aren't attending classes to sleep in a college room? how does it even work, don't they need that space to give to someone who has classes there? so strange.

Hi Dr. Grande. I hope the college students get their lives back together & erase psychonarc Ray from their memory. He was only interested in himself=no empathy = once again psychonarc. Love your channel & hope you have a chance to 🦓 see my comment. Hope you're having a splendid evening, peace & awesome times hopefully await you, peace, Janine Smiley😀🙂😎🤩😍🚘🚗🏡☕🥧☕🎂☕🍰⌚🛋🐥🐤🐣🐦🐼🐻🐨🐾🐧

What exactly does it means losing years of your life? Nobody seems to point out exactly what it is

@@pyromaniac709 Ok, say you graduate from university at 22. You're ready to take on your first job, and you find yourself to have very marketable skills and loads of job opportunities. But then you fall in with a cult (or some charismatic person), and you are, say, 30 when you shake yourself loose. So here you are, trying to recover from the severe PTSD from being abused for years, trying to reestablish bonds with family and friends that may have not seen you for years, trying to rebuild trust with people who would have helped you back in the day. Not only do you have all that baggage to deal with that you did not have at 22, but you are now pretty old to be starting your career, trying to explain to potential employers why you have such a poor work history. I have several friends who left years-long relationships with narcissists, only then realizing that they worked for years in less than ideal jobs to support their partners instead of developing their own career paths. Because after the partner got their great degree/job, it was supposed to be "their turn" to pursue their dreams. The narcissistic partner drained my friends' savings while withholding their own money, treating themselves very nicely. Now my friends feel that years of their life, along with their money and best career possibilities, have been wasted. They are dealing with debt and dysfunction. That's not even the worst. It's terrible and sad. It's a waste of potential.

I don't know if stupid and humiliated would be the primary emotions. It seems like they would have ptsd for years and great anger. It may take years of therapy for them to get their heads on straight again.

​@petrasworld913 yes, and fear and distrust...

Sometimes, parents will do anything and pay anything to get their kids out of the house. If they can afford it, they can send the kids to a private university, where paying your tuition is often enough for you to get by academically.

There's something to be said for attending a community college, at least for the general beginning courses.

@@darlahaines6928 There is a lot of good things to say about attending a good community college for the first two years of college. One of the most important of those things is how much money can be saved and another is the opportunity to transition from home life to campus life and all the problems that can arise from having more freedom than one can manage at too young an age.

@@GradyPhilpott Thanks, very well stated!

“Larry would bd looking for his teeth.” 😄😄😄😄. Same if it was my kid but on the other hand any kid of mind would not fall for it.

Thank goodness!

Thankful for this information. This is a great help to many people young and old!

Or could have ben a malevolent narcissist.

So sorry. So glad you’re out of that!

SO glad I chose not to go there ... even forty-plus years ago it seemed to me a petri dish of dipshittery , aggressive credulity and frank stupidity ... the last primarily evident in the administration's criminally irresponsible behavior . If the families of those poor dim college kids did NOT sue the pants off Sarah Lawrence , they missed a sterling opportunity to send not only institutions of higher learning but the damn world a strong message .

This was going on for yrs .. I was paying 75 k a yr 10 yrs ago for tuition . … great university 🥰

@@victoriavitoroulis3273 omg. So sorry 😮

There are no certifications for life coach. You and I could dream up a ridiculous idea, target celebrities and get rich without accruing pesky student loans .

Or pick up artists

What must it be like to finally wake up after being a cult follower and realize how you have wasted your life!?

@@dcnative1618 That’s the false narrative. A Certified Life Coach goes through quite extensive training. The issue in the industry is that ‘Life Coach’ can be legally used by anyone unlike ‘Therapist’. This leads to confusion. In a sense you are correct, tho, since most Life Coaches that you hear about ARE ‘fake gurus’ with no training other than their own beliefs. Sorta like a Personal Trainer. The good ones aren’t in it to flex their abs for Instagram. Just some food for thought since predators often hide behind much more trusting prefixes such as Dr or Pastor. Or the second coming of Jesus…maybe God, himself. 🤷‍♂️

@@jeffrey.a.hanson While there are indeed certification boards, I wonder if they're actually anymore valid than the non certified. Just like I've seen many tradesman who are "certified" in something but pretty much useless.

Colleges are powerful institutions and their tentacles reach everywhere, including the media. I'm glad the documentary came out, but wish it was on Netflix so it got a wider audience. Sarah Lawrence has a lot to answer for.

He probably tried some of his hocum there and he was kicked out.

Tom Cruise 101. Cruise was just smart enough to get paid to millions to ‘play’ an Air Force Pilot…and join an existing cult, not create one. So I take that back. Cruise would be disappointed.

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What's so bad about NJ ? Lol I'm asking genuinely btw. I've lived in Cali all my life. Visited NY once and checked it off of my bucket list. Didn't get a chance to see NJ (maybe lucky me lol) but very familiar w the Doc's everlasting repulsion of it 😁

I want to know too 🥴

Happy Birthday! 👑🎂

Happy birthday! 🎉

Happy Birthday!

A nice birthday present from Dr Grande. Happy birthday!

Happy birthday! 🎈🎂

Agreed !! ☺ 👍

I was wondering about that as well. His charm and charisma must be at mystical levels.

The college should be sued. The negligence is astounding.

@@GrumpyCat-mw5xl absolutely, the whole situation is mind blowing.

criminal negligence in my opinion.

I think he said Sarah Lawrence which is considered Ivy League. A student would pay thousands to live there and he camped out for nothing. Makes no sense.

yep, cross reference current events and topics here. hes science, sanity, heart based. he wont steer pple wrong. Doc G did a upload on NLP. very important. good education here.

Parents complained about it but the college didn't took any axn

I agree totally, but I suspect that the kids were actually legally adults in that state. 18 year olds may be very immature, inexperienced, and naive, but they are technically adults. The college still may have breached some duty to the students and parents, though, and there are probably civil suits in progress.

Being brainwashed and indoctrinated does that to you

Why do people say that? Is it unusual for you to laugh out loud? I'm just personally curious because I actually laugh out loud at least once a day. When I read a comment like yours (no offense) It makes me wonder if there are a lot of people who don't laugh out loud every day.

There were some underlying factors like depression loneliness, and who knows what else. There were 3 from her family so suggestibility may be their disposition.

🤣😂🤣😂 ole larry knew who he was dealing with...he studied each one, including their parental relationships...he kept the weakest ones with the weakest families.😫

Maybe they were living in Wildwood.

Texas

@@dcnative1618 Cleveland

I believe narcissists are actually the most vulnerable to cults: they are seduced by the idea that finally a small community and its 'important' guru/leader figure sees views them with the same esteem with which they see themselves. Narcissists believe that their lack of achievements and interpersonal problems are due to being misunderstood or victimised; the cult affirms this and explains to them that only the cult is intelligent enough to see them as the elite person that they are.

Most people are quite gullible. Same goes for a lot of these churches.

@@nadermazari3334 really?cause everytime i try to manipulate someone they find out at the minute

@@pyromaniac709 Your level of trickery must encompass a combination of "sophisticated simplicity." Most folks see through numbskullish bullshit and ironically become suspicious of stuff that sounds too "complicated." The religious people have fine-tuned it as an art and a science. Have you any idea how much the business of religion makes? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hi fellow Canadian. Scotian here, where in 1 day you can have all 4 Seasons.🤣

Well, not everybody is that susceptible to manipulation and cult tactics. These manipulators are also usually very good at picking out vulnerable people to victimize.

Talked much to doctors? Most get A’s in science classes but are dumb as a box of rocks about everything else. Some are quacks.

I don't think intelligence is the issue. She felt a void in her life. She had to be second mom to her siblings growing up because her parents worked a lot. She said it herself, for once someone was taking care of HER. These fuckers find their victims weaknesses then pretend to be this wonderful caring intelligent person and then reel them in. Mental abuse / brainwashing is hard to break away from.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Don’t judge you weren’t in her shoes.

It’s easy to think it won’t happen to you- most people do and aren’t stupid either despite common myths about those who fall into cults. I grew up in one and the majority were pretty educated people and fairly middle class… within a few months they’d sell their houses and give everything to the group. Love bombing is powerful. You never meet a “cult leader” or a “cult” - you meet interesting captivating people and don’t recognise how these nice folk are a cult until you’re far enough in. They always have a reason why they aren’t a cult in their explanations and it’ll sound plausible too. If you still wonder they’ll start joking about how if they’re a cult they’re a pretty good one to be part of. Aside from the odd leader, everyone will be incredibly genuine too… they have zero clue they’re recruiting for a cult. I was a pretty good little evangelist as a kid for the cult I was born into. I was proud of it. I didn’t even recognise it as a cult till several years out of it and it’s made the news in recent years not for anything good. There were always people calling us a cult - I just didn’t believe them.

"NewJersey, it’s somewhat like the people that live there…Sometimes weird sometimes greasy and not terribly classy." 😉

Does that make Dr Grande youre life coach?

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Add "energy worker" and "ghostbuster" to that list! 🤣

​@@healerscreeklol 😂😂😂😂 "ghostbuster" those people omg... 👻👻👻👻👻👻

Rejane - Boy! New Jersey took it on the chin! I do so like all Dr. Grande's pet peeves! Also his beautiful shirts! 👕 Hope you have a great Autumn!

@@bthomson Oh yes, New Jersey can never scape scot free.😅

Ahhhhhh that's so cute!!! Carved pumpkin in a shape of a cactus? Now that's a site to see! One- you must be extremely talented to pull this off 😁 and two - I can't think of anything else that would honor Dr. Grande any higher. Love the idea 😍❤👍

@@moonstruck562 Thank you so much!😊

SEEMINGLY being the operative word.😅

Totally

I think Larry had amphetamine psychosis on top of his anti social personality. At least a magazine article claimed he was a heavy user. He probably needed to believe his own stories to be convincing enough, they were so preposterous

You don't have to think what you're doing is right. He pretty clearly got off on it being wrong.

Unfortunately she didn't keep a cent of that money. Talk about wasted years.....

It boggles the mind!

Channels have zero control over the adverts placed by RU-vid

@@Vonononie Yes, the algorithm is erroneously and ironically noticing the Dr G viewers watch content that covers life coaches, (in general and in specific - i.e. Teal Swan,) but critiques and exposes them as worthless deceptive hucksters, assumes that we wish to consume further life coach content, and pushes their advertising at us; completely unaware that we find only humor in their wasted ads. Your comment's converse appear to be true: advertisers have control over the types of channels they place their ads on.

@@Allen2 an ironic and serendipitous benefit for his channel.

I don't think they formally provided him with a room. The students just let him in.

Still tho 🤦🏾

@@Loud2013 Oh yes, still utterly ridiculous!

If I was paying for my kid to attend a private college and paying for their dorm room, I’d have an issue with them allowing a 50? Year old man who wasn’t a student live in the dorm.

I can't wrap my mind around how this is even legal. My kid's going to college next year and I'll be damned if i pay a college allowing a grown ass man living in the dorms. Nope! She'll be out the next day

@@moonstruck562 Good for you. I think it was an age discrimination thing. This guy was considered "cool," he gave me a ride on a motorcycle and we ended up somewhere in the Pine Barrens. Dr G knows where that is 😆. I made it out OK but looking back...it was very very wrong.

Apart from being rather pompous, these are very confused remarks. This is like hearing about a neglectful parent staving their child and announcing, "We must do more to nourish our children!". Anyone likely to say such a thing, or to listen to it, already does so. And the sort of people liable to starve their child won't hear it or won't care.

@@eadweard. perhaps you are confused. Pompous was not my intention. It was simply an observation of seeing these young women in these vulnerable situations. And stating the fact we need to do better teaching our children. Now yes, this is woman-centric observation, but we need to teach our daughter to expect more and how to stand up for themselves and to prevent these type of people into their lives. We need to teach our sons to be better. Our young women are getting into these relationships and situations and are the ones who suffer the most. These poor young women were coerced into prostitution. My example was the fact that our young women are not taught to look out for themselves, (of which my example was that there is an epidemic of women having children with deadbeat fathers). Break the cycle people. Women in particular…teach your daughters to expect better. And yes, we need to teach our sons to be better.

@@Notavailableatthistime These phrases - "Teach our sons to be better", "Teach our daughters to expect better", "Break the cycle" - are empty, fashionable slogans. They mean literally nothing in practical terms. People who already raise children with good values don't need these slogans. And people who are feckless enough to raise predators or prey won't be moved by them.

@@eadweard. do you think every single one of these young women was raised recklessly? That’s quite an assumption.

@@Notavailableatthistime Feckless, not reckless, although they aren't too dissimilar. And why the young women, specifically?

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Everyone

People who don't have other people for guidance (but too much money aparently), but imo they'd be better served with a therapist and experts for specific other areas like finances or fitness if they feel like they need help in that area

Someone who had neglectful or absent parents.

Your money would be better spent on therapy. And you’d probably save $10,000 by doing it the right way, and gain some sanity.

Very good question

Literally, all the siblings. I cant understand how this could happen. I hope that my kids wouldnt fall prey to this mess.

They were most likely just very sheltered and innocent.

The poor parents. It's heartbreaking enough to lose one child to this madness but all 3?