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Life in Lori Vallow’s family system (with Megan Conner) 

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@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
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@MorganMcMorganstein
@MorganMcMorganstein 11 месяцев назад
I've never been Mormon, or even in a high-control group, but I want to get interviewed by Zelph On The Shelf just so I can tell my life story while Sam and Tanner make sympathetic noises in unison
@rachelengel6668
@rachelengel6668 9 месяцев назад
Officially becoming Mormon so I can leave Mormonism and bag myself an interview
@bethan.gruffydd
@bethan.gruffydd 11 месяцев назад
Enjoying the discussion so far, but **MAJOR TRIGGER WARNING** for disordered eating about ~15 min in (just for other viewers who could've also used a heads-up)
@piapedersen
@piapedersen 11 месяцев назад
Megan Conner is a fantastic communicator, and I could listen to her for hours. Wish you all the best, Megan, if you read this. Am going to find and buy your book.
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!! ❤
@mullimar000
@mullimar000 11 месяцев назад
I just rewatched the Diane Sawyer Brit Spears interview and this video was SUCH a refresher. You both are so much more professional and compassionate than most “professional” interviewers. Also you ask great follow up questions that actually sound like you’re listening and not just waiting to speak. Love y’all ❤
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
Oh wow thank you!!!!
@Aelffwynn
@Aelffwynn 11 месяцев назад
Some real gems of historical knowledge around 58:30 ! I could listen to Megan talk forever. She is such an effective communicator.
@Aelffwynn
@Aelffwynn 11 месяцев назад
Just finished watching! The wealth of compassion and emotional intelligence in this video is really lovely. I love the idea of using true crime as a door to conversations about mental health and family dynamics. Thanks for sharing. 💕
@mads597
@mads597 11 месяцев назад
1:11:36 the way that cat (Bernie?) transplants himself seamlessly into Megan’s lap is both sweetly humorous and also incredibly apt for this channel: an earnest approach of comforting blond affection sourced in mutual respect
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
😭💜
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Went home covered in Bernie hair and was not mad about it.
@mxflint1715
@mxflint1715 11 месяцев назад
I think the quote you're looking for might be from ursula le guin ''What goes too long unchanged destroys itself. The forest is forever because it dies and dies and so lives.'' and if it's not it's just a really cool quote i wanted to share haha
@basicallyno1722
@basicallyno1722 5 месяцев назад
Have you read Ursula’s take on the Tao Te Ching? Packed with wisdom like this.
@1234cheerful
@1234cheerful 5 месяцев назад
Truly, a cool quote! Thanks for sharing it with us.
@deuteragonist1078
@deuteragonist1078 11 месяцев назад
This was so fascinating, and Megan had so much knowledge to give! I grew up Catholic and got "confirmed" in 8th grade only to have a major reset in my beliefs the following year, so I really resonated with what y'all were saying about literal children supposedly being able to consent/choose their beliefs independent of their families and environment.
@FrumiousMing8
@FrumiousMing8 11 месяцев назад
Megan seems like an incredible person and my heart goes out to her and her family! Also shout-out to you guys for being such great interviewers/conversation hosters. Great video all around.
@cindydalton9608
@cindydalton9608 4 месяца назад
I love Megan Conner so much.Her podcast has truly helped me so much.❤❤
@organictroll
@organictroll 11 месяцев назад
Anyone who laughed about the cat is a psychopath, period.
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
should be the only requirement in the DSM!! ;)
@ninaasf-ck
@ninaasf-ck 11 месяцев назад
Right?!?! Having witnessed that exact thing, can confirm there is nothing funny about it.
@jonipitcher7185
@jonipitcher7185 11 месяцев назад
Oh my goodness I needed to here her talk about body positivity! ❤ THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. You must have been prompted by the spirit. 😄🙄
@LaNoireDetruit
@LaNoireDetruit 9 месяцев назад
This conversation is so valuable. Megan is so well spoken, especially in the part about how exactly trauma hurts you, which is so important. Wishing her and everyone struggling all the best & the strength to heal
@proanuubis2546
@proanuubis2546 11 месяцев назад
Dam, Mormon stories going 2 have some competition lol😅. Great interview, u guys really seem at ease with a good back and forth flow. ❤❤
@transientdaydreams
@transientdaydreams 11 месяцев назад
Megan, you're so smart and wise, and it's inspiring to hear about your journey. I came from a different high control group, and a different family full of secrecy and trauma--and I don't know how much this means from a stranger on the internet, but I believe you. I'm sorry that some people who should believe you have chosen not to. You deserved better from your family of origin, and I'm glad you have other people in your life to support you. Also, that stuff about body positivity made me realize that I'm not quite as "over" my mom's unhealthy beauty standards as I'd thought I was. Like, I'd gotten over the obsessive need to wear makeup even to get the mail, and the need to dress fem like she wanted, but I was still viewing my body through the same lens as she would. And now I know that I need to do some work on that. So thank you! Also, whenever you two have someone on your channel, I'm always impressed by how good and compassionate you are toward them. Maybe it's just that I grew up watching TV interviewers who didn't give two shits about people's feelings, but there's such a world of difference between that and videos like this. (Plus, unlike those interviewers, here there's a chance for kitty cameos, which make my whole entire day.)
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
This is such a lovely comment, thank you!! 💖💖💖💖
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 10 месяцев назад
Omg thank you so much!!!❤
@Badjuju2
@Badjuju2 11 месяцев назад
While you were talking about near death experiences I got an ad for a movie about just that 😮
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Super scary that the new NDE movie is by the same studio as the Tim Ballard movie!!!!!
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
Noooooooo
@Badjuju2
@Badjuju2 11 месяцев назад
@@Third_Verse omg you’re right 🫢
@ellenmoffatt2537
@ellenmoffatt2537 11 месяцев назад
What a lovely person and interview, I am at the CrossFit part of the conversation and feeling so warm and fuzzy 💕
@katehampstead6024
@katehampstead6024 4 месяца назад
Such a great conversation. Well done, all three of you.
@LauraOttawa
@LauraOttawa 11 месяцев назад
I was thinking "I wish there would be a new zelph on the shelf video for me to watch." 🙂 I'm enjoying this conversation!
@gmaerowed
@gmaerowed 11 месяцев назад
Have y'all considered uploading a podcast version of your shows? I cant always have RU-vid open but i love listening
@songs-of-seers5139
@songs-of-seers5139 11 месяцев назад
100% this. My internet arrangement is such that a podcast form would be phenomenal. I'd still go to RU-vid for the comments section, but it's a lot of bandwidth as compared to podcasts.
@HannahMitchell-Art
@HannahMitchell-Art 11 месяцев назад
Become a premium member of RU-vid and then you can both download (watch offline) and listen with the screen off 😉
@songs-of-seers5139
@songs-of-seers5139 11 месяцев назад
@@HannahMitchell-Art that's not the issue. The issue is the bandwidth and data that video takes up. Also, I'd rather not have a subscription that goes to Google and not at all to creators. Not a big fan of large subscriptions services, personally.
@gmaerowed
@gmaerowed 11 месяцев назад
@@HannahMitchell-Art I'm a broke/poor student paying my way through college. I have to prioritize paying for my ADHD medication and food, but thank you for your unsolicited "advice"
@Brittnoelle2
@Brittnoelle2 6 месяцев назад
I’m not even Mormon (thankgod) NJ girl over here methodist but not devout. More spiritual than anything. I love Megan’s interviews! I’ve seen her on Lauren and dr John’s channel and Mormon stories podcast. Megan you’re a little hottie I can’t believe you have kids that old! Good genes! You’re so knowledgeable, intelligent and well spoken. Im so Happy I just found your channel Zelph on the shelf😀.
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
This conversation was so much fun for me! Samantha and Tanner are both amazing human beings and I cannot WAIT for more incredible content! 💜
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
MEGAN WE NEVER DESERVED YOU AND WE NEVER WILL 💜💜💜💜💜💜
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
@@ZelphOntheShelf 😭😭
@ktangard
@ktangard 11 месяцев назад
Excellent guest, excellent interviewers, excellent video 🙌
@riverwolf6482
@riverwolf6482 11 месяцев назад
50:20 when I was a weird little human being a good catholic I somehow managed to find the understanding that Santa and God where the same being and the reason we got gifts on Christmas Day was because we were celebrating the birth of the son of god and we are all his children… That is the best way I can explain it if it doesn’t make sense I’m pretty sure I don’t understand the connection but little me did
@mirellehop
@mirellehop 11 месяцев назад
Such a fantastic interview! ❤
@laycie_mnm
@laycie_mnm 11 месяцев назад
Loved this interview! Love hearing from Megan anytime I find her on YT. Just bought her book! I relate to her so much with the toxic family of origin (CSA) and leaving mormonism later in life.
@othersheep5491
@othersheep5491 11 месяцев назад
Why y’all gotta be so fetchin’ SMART ? I love where you appear to land after receiving all the truth bombs we’ve forever wanted. And still want. You seem to always land somewhere authentic, transparent, and supportive. That conversation was healthy and funny. All 3 of you edified without mormon minimizing the magnitude of the narcissism, abuse, and horrors at which most wont gaze. Thanks for being the light and the life
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
🥹💜💜💜
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 10 месяцев назад
💜💜💜
@letahamilton
@letahamilton 11 месяцев назад
I am sad that some of Megan’s Mormon family aren’t talking to her … if they did, they’d learn so much & be expanded by her wisdom 😊
@ninskdesign
@ninskdesign 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate Megan and the wisdom, insight, and compassion she brings to the conversation!
@eiluvart0416
@eiluvart0416 11 месяцев назад
WAIT OMG THE SANTA THING like for sure my deconstruction journey started when I learned santa wasn’t real
@HannahMitchell-Art
@HannahMitchell-Art 11 месяцев назад
I cried my eyes out so much when I found out Santa wasn’t real. My kids dad had the same experience. We refused to teach our kid about Santa as a consequence. So traumatic!
@beautifulHHI
@beautifulHHI 5 месяцев назад
The Easter Bunny, for me❤
@MissSyrinxie
@MissSyrinxie 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing your story with us. The search for truth is long and worth it. I wish you continued healing and loving kindness ❤
@northwildlings6795
@northwildlings6795 4 месяца назад
This is my favorite Megan interview! Amazing.
@rockytreadway
@rockytreadway 11 месяцев назад
Great episode! Thank you all for sharing ❤
@swaneespeedramsey6080
@swaneespeedramsey6080 3 месяца назад
What a fantastic interview with three beautiful people. Honest ownership of their lives and stories.
@aromaathome
@aromaathome 11 месяцев назад
Loved this episode. So much truth spoken here! ❤️
@ivonna.tinkle
@ivonna.tinkle 11 месяцев назад
1:07:19 OMG went I heard how Stacy died I immediately wondered if Alex murdered her! Was Stacy Alex's first kill? Did Alex fancy himself the Destroying Angel? A reincarnated Porter Rockwell? Porter Rockwell was Joseph Smith’s bodyguard, so did Alex think he was Lori, then Chad's bodyguard?
@HannahMitchell-Art
@HannahMitchell-Art 11 месяцев назад
This was such a great interview 😊 the Mormon stories episodes with Megan are so good/sad/amazing/terrible and well worth watching
@emilyrln
@emilyrln 11 месяцев назад
"We only invited people to the funeral who didn't think he's a murderer" 💀 yikes
@ainokea911
@ainokea911 4 месяца назад
Pride and arrogance hurt the Cox family. I'm better than you but also beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Two of Barry and Janice's children are now killers. Alex died, Lori is in a mental institution. Through reading text, Janice pleaded with the courts not to sentence her daughter to death. The death penalty was on the table. But somehow the prosecution didn't put it in a timely manner, so Judge Boyce sanctioned them.
@lorikennedy1127
@lorikennedy1127 4 месяца назад
Lori is in county jail in Arizona awaiting 2 court cases for murder of Charles and Brandon. When she is done there she will go back to Idaho to Pocatello prison. Whereev she is I hope she is miserable.
@nyssalynn5216
@nyssalynn5216 11 месяцев назад
Watching this reminded me of something I'd entirely forgot/repressed. My temple reccomend got taken away at 15-16(I was in it from 14-17 but those were crucial years) because I was self harming and I couldn't go to the temple if I would "defile the temple that is my body" so that was really an experience being ostracized after being love bombed so hard just a year or two prior.
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 11 месяцев назад
Whoah, that’s so shitty 💜💜💜💜💜
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
@nyssalynn5216 I’m so sorry you had to experience that. It was not ok and not healthy and you are worthy.
@MoreWordsPlease
@MoreWordsPlease 11 месяцев назад
It would have been fine if you'd had a breast augmentation or a tummy tuck - as long as whatever you do to your body is for the benefit of men around you then you can keep that temple recommend. I'm sorry that happened to you. You should have recieved extra attention and love, not have been ostracized. Can you imagine if someone lost their recommend because they got permanent makeup or an ear piercing? Of course not. Priesthood leaders are only supposed to accept body modifications that up your "resale" value on the mormon marriage market.
@nyssalynn5216
@nyssalynn5216 11 месяцев назад
@@MoreWordsPlease and to the others who replied, thank you. I'm on my lil big journey of healing now, but holy shit did it ever suck at the time. I try to be grateful that it ultimately helped lead me to deconstruction, but I also can't deny how badly it hurt and that it left me more messed up than it helped.
@carissamcleod5408
@carissamcleod5408 11 месяцев назад
I bought Megan’s book, very excited to read it!
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!!!
@christymckissick9217
@christymckissick9217 8 месяцев назад
I feel you dude, the army acts like this with us sometimes… with the weight thing
@bernjobi
@bernjobi 11 месяцев назад
omg! those first few seconds were great with the laughing :,)
@lsun5322
@lsun5322 11 месяцев назад
Hey Tanner there’s a great Mormon stories episode on that woman’s thesis, excuse my sleepy Australian spelling, but I think it’s Shannon Cardwell montez
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Yes! Shannon Caldwell Montez.
@rw4754
@rw4754 11 месяцев назад
Is Tim Ballard Q? So much of the QAn0n imagery is taken from Movies & TV series.
@miriam-moore
@miriam-moore 11 месяцев назад
I like Megan talking about what she’s interested in
@noraoconnor1895
@noraoconnor1895 5 месяцев назад
I did'nt know megan had gotten out of the mormon church, i admire her intelligence and her honesty and i respect her.!!
@rhondadearborn3265
@rhondadearborn3265 11 месяцев назад
Great guest guys
@languageofhorses5324
@languageofhorses5324 11 месяцев назад
A surprise guest! 🐎👍
@mariarubio1850
@mariarubio1850 5 месяцев назад
love your spirit.
@christymckissick9217
@christymckissick9217 8 месяцев назад
Protein and muscles weigh some stuff! Muscles keep you young 😊
@Dahlily
@Dahlily 11 месяцев назад
Hmm where can i get the prequel of this interview? I just started watching and i feel so out of the loop, what's the situation, who is Lorri etc 🤔
@Dahlily
@Dahlily 11 месяцев назад
Omg ok that lady!!! Ok i think i know.
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Hidden true crime podcast (on RU-vid also) has a great crash course video that summarizes the case!
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Sorry- Lori is the doomsday mom who was convicted of 3 counts of m*rder.
@julianarodriguex899
@julianarodriguex899 11 месяцев назад
Megan Conner is awesome
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
❤❤❤
@acastrohowell
@acastrohowell 5 месяцев назад
Who is she in relation to Lori Vallow?
@chriscardinal7007
@chriscardinal7007 4 месяца назад
The devil looooves mormonism silent whispers to jump on the springboard into the darkness.
@ainokea911
@ainokea911 4 месяца назад
Megan I'm so happy that you can now be your true self. And own it, thank you Jesus. I was once where you were at. We wanted to be validated. And not to mention, these people were actually, hind sight 20/20 our enemies. I just say Hallelujah!
@TerryJewell-z5e
@TerryJewell-z5e 4 месяца назад
The service dog was given back to the trainer. They cant be sold by the current family using the dog.
@miriam-moore
@miriam-moore 11 месяцев назад
It’s so boring to be a Mormon it’s easy to get very interested in fitness
@joanlantis4497
@joanlantis4497 11 месяцев назад
How hard would it be to induce a diabetic coma. The true story movie "NURSE" was about a nurse who killed patients by injecting insulin into patients IV s. Was lori jealous of Stacy?
@Third_Verse
@Third_Verse 11 месяцев назад
Yes. Bc Stacy was sweet and kind and beautiful and that would have threatened Lori.
@Saritabanana
@Saritabanana 11 месяцев назад
MEGAN!!! 🎉❤🎉❤
@JS-lm3lq
@JS-lm3lq 10 месяцев назад
Yeah 👏♥
@Aspiresum1
@Aspiresum1 5 месяцев назад
Wow. This is unbelievable. Her agenda her compensation and the saddest life I’ve ever heard for everyone to consume. Hahahaha! 🤮 People died.
@TerryJewell-z5e
@TerryJewell-z5e 4 месяца назад
??
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