Light Pollution Filter SHOOTOUT - Optolong L-Pro v. Astronomik CLS v. Svbony CLS v. Baader Neodymium

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00:00 Intro
02:59 Spectral Transmission tests
08:01 Physical Characteristics
10:19 Bortle 4 Stock DSLR
12:03 Bortle 4 Astro Camera
13:28 Bortle 9 Stock DSLR
14:53 Bortle 9 Astro Camera
15:39 My thoughts and Outro
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@danborjaa 3 года назад

This is how all reviews should be like. Amazing job Nico!

@alexk7487 3 года назад

The results are not what I wanted to hear, but they prevented me from buying useless filters. Thanks for the review.

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful Alex. Clear skies, Nico

@stevenkelby2169 3 года назад

So they don't work? Thanks for saving me 20 minutes! 🍻

@coleisman 3 года назад

Idk about useless, I'm in bortle 6 and the SVBONY (cheapest one) has literally been the difference between nebulosity being there and not, as in completely invisible to visible, seems pretty significant to me.

@Neanderthal75 3 года назад

@@coleisman - That depends what camera you use. I am at Bortle 5-6 and I get nebulosity without any filters with osc cmos camera Except my stars are bloated due to the filter I got has no UV/IR cut capability.

@ericoaliagacavaleiro9562 2 года назад

@@wayneenright87 There are so many variables and, despite Nico has made such amazing job, his excelent work didn't cover all of them. For example: differente ISOs, total exposure time vs apparent magnitude, telescope aperture and so on. You should test the limits of your gear bf buying a filter and this video can give you some directions.

@astrophotonics9470 3 года назад

Great Non-Biased Technical analysis of 4 popular filters, best i've seen so far on youtube. Thanks for putting in the work Nico.

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 года назад

How I am only now watching this?? This was a titanic effort Nico, thank you so much for doing all of this! Absolutely amazing!

@sdy30 3 года назад

This is probably the best filter review I have ever seen on RU-vid. Really clear and helpful. Thanks!

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful! Clear skies, Nico

@ronstewtsaw 3 года назад

I'm only 30 seconds in, and Nico said "exhaustive." I thought, "Oh dear," it being Nico. But hey - its just 20 minutes. I don't need to set aside a whole evening. (Not a complaint!! Nico's stuff is worth spending the evenings.)

@aTillasSister 3 года назад

1.5x :-)

@eddeph 3 года назад

The quality of your videos is off the charts! Thanks for putting in all this hard work!

@uriah4201 3 года назад

As I'm getting back into the hobby after many years absence, and shopping for filters, this is EXACTLY what I needed to see. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

@WhiteCrowFarm 3 года назад

This is by far the most informative and direct review. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this, and really look forward to checking out your website. Thank you

@MattMiltonberger 3 года назад

This is the best comparison video I've seen of these filters, and one I wish existed a few months ago before I made my LP filter purchase! I love the extensive knowledge and information that your videos provide. Thank you, Nico!

@captainwasabi 3 года назад

Making your own spectrograph. That could have been (should be) an episode by itself. Well done!

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

That is a big story with a number of false starts and failed attempts. I want to move on to other things at the moment, but maybe later I can make a video.

@captainwasabi 3 года назад

@@NebulaPhotos Tease

@KnyghtErrant 3 года назад

Fantastic job Nico! Thank you for going above and beyond. This combined with your new website will prove to be extremely valuable for the community. I hope you have opportunities to continue adding to the list in the future. I'm sure people would love to see what you could do with the L-Extreme!

@FreeRealEstatepage 2 года назад

Wanted to follow up with a thank you for this video. I finally received my SVBONY CLS filter and was amazed at the improvement over the ICE LIPO filter. I took 5hrs with of subs the other night and was able to actually see the Wizard Nebula, where as before I couldn’t see anything with twice as much exposure time! Definitely helped me get over a huge hurtle.

@ortizma13 3 года назад

OMG i am so excited to see this. You mentioned you were going to make it a while back and I have been eagerly waiting for it to drop. Thank you for all you do to bring us the best information we can use to become better at our craft.

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Thanks Miguel! Hope it helps 👍Clear skies, Nico

@framed-tales 3 года назад

Answers almost all the questions one can have.....with detailed scientific and objective explanations! Thank you!

@venant.photography 2 года назад

Really impressive method and delivery, Nico! Recently found your channel by referral from a photography friend and I've been so refreshed by your atypical, scientific approach to photography. Also Boston-based, so it's nice to know there's hope for me to get some good shots one day. Cheers!

@robb7342 2 года назад

Nico, perfect presentation for my current state and growth in astro-photograpy. Nice to see the various comparison.

@ShevillMathers 2 года назад

Excellent presentation, the best I have seen on this topic. Having just watched this for the second time, I absorbed a little more information. Greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺🦘👍

@pranavanath 3 года назад

Most underrated YT channel. you should get more subscribers

@timurhant469 Год назад

I really appreciate the diligence and methodical approach for a proper review. Thanks a lot!

@paulnaquet 3 года назад

As usual a great and useful video Nico!

@moliveiranuno 3 года назад

Amazing job Nico! thank you for the great review

@NebuloCity 3 года назад

Thx Nico! All very helpful info. And congrats on new site.

@astropeeks4210 3 года назад

Amazing job! Thank you for this very in-depth review!

@majortom4338 3 года назад

You and Cuiv from Tokyo are best on earth. Thank you so much.

@gomanastro 3 года назад

What a GREAT review. We love that it is to the point, and let's the photos speak, and love your opinions at the end.....please do more of these....IDAS 1 is what i have , and pleased so far...would like to see how it stack up to your scrutiny.

@jenswarth1672 3 года назад

Thanks Nico, that was very helpful. Keep up the good work, you've won a new subscriber :-)

@frankieg7575 2 года назад

Amazing Nico. Happy New Year to you. Looking forward to this year's content. 👍

@blaircolliver5194 3 года назад

Thank you for the thorough review and great information!

@1AngryDpg 3 года назад

GREAT Review! I appreciate the non-bias comparison and then your thoughts at the end with your personal selections. Hope to see more in the future - especially liked your LAB setup to compare the published specs. I would like to see what this comparison looks like with LED light pollution, Incandescent, Low-pressure sodium, and high-pressure sodium to round out the comparison because my Bortel 8 may not be the same as someone else's Bortel 8.

@robertocarloscaruso6840 2 года назад

Excellent video nico. Just what i was looking for.

@fritzarken74 Год назад

Complimenti, fai dei video esaustivi e completi con molti esempi pratici.

@vasodyss 3 года назад

Thanks Nico! Makes me feel good I went for the SVBONY CLS filter instead of splurging a bit more and getting the Astronomik filter

@britainthroughmylens 3 года назад

This was an excellent review and was very helpful. Thank you.

@SeanGold 2 года назад

Just found your channel in the last couple of weeks since I bought a star tracker and have been experimenting with it and deep sky objects. I actually tried shooting the North American nebula last night from my balcony in Somerville as well, and was quite disappointed to see the lack of color and details. I may have to look into a filter, though I frequently go to the white Mountains in New Hampshire and dark skies are quite good up there! I've learned a lot already from your videos, I'd say the biggest thing I have to improve my knowledge on at this point is image stretching and editing! Thanks for your great work!

@l.m2517 3 года назад

So I won’t waste my money on filters tonight... instead I’ll become a patreon for the first time in my life ! Thank you so much for your amazing work Nico ! 🙏🏼

@NatarajanGanesan 3 года назад

Loved the spectrophotometry part. From my work to hobby, it continues 😊.

@PareshParmar1993 3 года назад

Great review buddy, Thank you so much :)

@eranzg7348 3 года назад

Thank you so much for the quality demo.

@_Piers_ 3 года назад

Thanks for the excellent information. Given the price of the Svbony filter I'm just going to buy one and see how it works for me.

@jonas_meyer_photography 3 года назад

Great review! I shoot under bortle 8 skies with an unmodified Canon 80D, I use the Astronomik CLS. Really like that filter, so it was nice to see your results with it and all the other. Keep up the good work and clear skies.

@hootsmon13 3 года назад

A great comprehensive review which was easy to understand. I hope you will be reviewing other types of filters, for modded dslr etc. Thanks Nico.

@michaelgemeiner Год назад

Thanks for your great review! It helped me a lot making my decision for an Astronomik CLS filter on my stock Nikon Z6II.

@SectorData 3 года назад

Great review! Thank you very much!

@lepo1 2 года назад

Thanks for a great video, as always!

@kiel2155 2 года назад

Sounds like this might have been a challenging video to put together, but it turned out fantastic! Excellent comparison! Everything I would want to make the best decision.

@alandyer910 3 года назад

Excellent review and thoroughly done. I look forward to seeing further tests of more extreme dual band filters in the class of the Optolong L-Enhance, Astronomik UHC or Radian filters which OPT should be able to supply you, if they haven’t already. And keep in mind that it isn’t necessary to shoot only through a filter. Under darker skies shooting unfiltered and filtered images and blending them later gives you the best of both worlds: the natural star colours and more subtle tones of some nebulas along with the richest and greatest extent of faint red nebulosity. It isn’t either/or. Unless you are shooting under light polluted skies, then a filter and modified camera is essential. And in that case an even more extreme filter than what you tested here would likely be better. Clear skies!

@itaialter 3 года назад

Awesome review. I got the SVBony CLS clip-in for my unmodified Canon T2i + 70-200mm lens to shoot under my bortle 8-9 skies (with my Skyguider Pro) and it seems to do a very nice job. I also have the 2" version of the Optolong L-eNhance, but I can't really use it with a camera lens, so I'll wait with it until I upgrade to a small refractor.

@MarkoPola 3 года назад

Fantastic review! Thank you!

@mouseylikesnuts6437 2 года назад

Just found your channel. Brilliant review, thank you!!

@CentralKyBees 3 года назад

Great video! We need this investigation done with narrowband filters!

@user-yd1zl1tv8x 9 месяцев назад

Nico, thanks. The spectrograph presentation was OUTSTANDING!!! A Master class, really. Your comparison helped me decide on getting a light pollution filter. As you know, these can be quite costly, and I don't have to get the very best, but I do buy so that I do not have to replace later on, if that makes any sense? I opted for the Svbony CLS, 2". I live in a city. And I do shoot both astrocameras, and unmodified DSLRs, so at less than $50.00 I can justify the cost for the DSLR use .... Again, nice job. And thank you!

@icemanf6417 2 года назад

Excellent review Nico! It works out great for me I only bought the Astronomik cls for my Canon 80D. Going to look into the IR cut filter now. Thanks for the review!

@Abdulrahman.Knakriah 2 года назад

A really amazing video, keep it up man!.

@garyfletcher1387 3 года назад

Great vid just what people really like to know about the astro filters.👏👏👍

@FreeRealEstatepage 2 года назад

Thank you for sending this link! It helped me pick the filter for my setup. I went with the SVBONY CLS. Clear Skies!

@NebulaPhotos 2 года назад

Excellent!

@Pipe-organ-recordings 3 года назад

Great job. In bortel 9 or 4 on a Astro camera, what would you recommend galaxies?

@karlb8481 3 года назад

This explained a lot from my photo perspective. As just starting out, it helped me prioritize where to focus. (Ha!) Glass, location, filters, mounts, etc.

@julese7790 2 года назад

TY for the In Depth review. I purchased the Baader because I mainly shoot at 360mm in my backyard and our hospital use Na-Lamp ...

@grigoryvidishev1810 3 года назад

Thank you for this review. I have Optolong L-pro and Bortle 9 skies, so I do not think I did a bad purchase given you analysis. Thank you again.

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Yes, with a dedicated astro camera (or modded dslr) the L-Pro was good in all conditions

@trevorgreen2232 3 года назад

An Excellent presentation and review Thank you

@yervantparnagian5999 3 года назад

Excellent job as usual. I'm a neighbor from Rhode Island.

@billallen275 Год назад

Awesome thank you! I just purchased a used Astro modified DSLR and have a three filter set of the SVBony filters. I'm in bortle 5.

@jimgarasich7328 2 года назад

Great job Nico. Clear and objective; more so than most other comparisons I've viewed. I'm using Orion SkyGlow filter but still doesn't darken sufficiently my Bortle 5 skies outside Pittsburgh. Need a more effective CLS filter! Thanks much.

@olivierrethore9097 3 года назад

Great review !

@AstroSoundscape 3 года назад

Wish I found this a bit sooner I just bought and tried a Astronomik CLS CCD filter that so far not super impressed by. Nice thorough review. Cheers

@ZeddysDad 2 года назад

Thanks for that exactly what I was looking for. I'm Bortle 6 using a ASI183MC, so look torn between the Neodymium and the L-Pro... but this has helped a lot. Probably start with the Neo at nearly half the price of the other!

@nordic5490 2 года назад

Top shelf review - thanks

@AstroQuest1 3 года назад

Hey Nico great job on this comparison - I missed it when it first came out. I own the Astronimik CLS and the Baader Neodynium and found very similar results to you in my bortle 5 region in Monroe, CT. I purchased the CLS first but was unhappy with the colors and more apparent noise that I got with it so I went with the Baader. I really don't use either much since I do most imaging with a monochrome camera, however, I now have an ASI 294MC Pro to be used with a new setup (once it arrives) so I will be using the Baader a lot more. I also purchased the IDAS NBZ for Ha and OIII imaging as well. - Cheers Kurt

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Thanks Kurt. Yeah the Baader gives nice colors, and is very similar to the Optolong L-Pro. If I was doing much OSC work with moderate light pollution that is what I'd use too.

@angelj6384 Год назад

So much great info! Thanks!

3 года назад

Awesome and reassuring that the filter that I have already ordered (optolong cls) and is hopefully somewhere in the mail was the right choice (bortle 8 in Reykjavík)

@kamaromike 3 года назад

I'm pretty much in agreement. Confirmation Bias aside, I had both a full-spectrum T3i and a 294MC-Pro as well as UV/IR, Astronomik, Baader Neo and a few no-name CLS filters. The Baader definitely seemed to produce the best results on both when I was closer to light pollution. Especially with color. I ended up having to part with half of my gear but kept the Baader and UV/IR for use with the 294 because they were my favorites. I'm happy I did. Now if the sky would clear up, that'd be great.

@gd515051 2 года назад

Man this is a great review. Really breaks it down in detail. Personally I thought the Optolong L-Pro was the best optically. And the SVBONY was close enough to the others that it’s price makes it the best if you’re on a budget.

@jpb321 2 года назад

Great review. Made me feel better about my astronomik cls. Was thinking about getting the l-pro for broadband, but do you think it would be all that different? From this review i wouldn't think so. I'm using a Ha modified t5i. I can't really ask for a better sky comparison, I'm in medford! Are you in somerville or were just visiting?

@awesim 3 года назад

That was an awesome review. In depth with spectrographs and pictures. Please do a review of narrowband filters too!!!

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Thanks, Glad you liked it! Narrowband filters reviews will come eventually

@awesim 3 года назад

@@NebulaPhotos waiting anxiously for that one! Please include single band as well as dual-narrowband ones like L-eNhance and L-eXtreme as well. That would rock!!! :-)

@astronomynotebook 2 года назад

Good video, Nico👍🏼

@Stefan-Astro-Art Год назад

Great video, just I needed. I was not sure if I go for LP or baader. But they are very close

@marimbaman1969 Год назад

This is a great review! I have a stock Canon 5D Mark III and I’ve been trying to find a good filter for it. It’s a great coincidence that you have one too. Also what exposure and ISO did you take the bortle 4 photos at? Thank you!

@ohwell2790 3 года назад

The Svbony CLS is only $35 and my sky is bright at night from the city and money is important so I use that. The others are beyond my budget. So great reviews

@markblanken9973 10 месяцев назад

Hello Nico! It was great to meet you at NEAF this year. I was going back through your videos as I am filter hunting for the new ZWO Duo. In this video, you briefly discuss your spectrometer setup. I would be curious to see an in-depth video on this as I might be interested in building one of my own.

@BrentBowenVideos Год назад

Super-useful info! THANKS!

@vladimirbotko9576 3 года назад

Good review and helpful!

@eacron 2 года назад

Great video! Really useful! What type of adapter do you use to attach a 2” filter to a dslr? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again… great content :).

@southbronxny5727 3 года назад

I would have liked to see some galaxy comparisons. Thanks for the reviews.....I know it wasn't cheap.

@cxr111 3 года назад

This is a great, well researched review. I live near Seattle, under a bortle 7 sky. Just bought the Svbony CLS as it's the cheapest I could find and I'm still figuring out if this is a hobby I can get into. The filter arrived 5 days after I ordered it and right on the night I got it it started raining. We've had 2 semi clear nights in the month that I've had it and I don't think it'll get better soon. I guess I will have to wait till spring given that traveling is still not such a good idea. Bummer!

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

www.seattleastro.org/activities/2 Ask around about dark sites at the Seattle Astronomical Society Astrophotography Special Interest Group. As long as we all stay 6 ft apart and mask up, I don't see why we can't do astrophotography safely as it is all outside which is a lot safer than inside. The rain/cloud problem I can't help with. I know Seattle is particularly bad for that aspect. Best of luck!!

@greglight5808 3 года назад

Great job man

@PeteCroft1 2 года назад

Thanks Nico, excellent review, filters are a bit of a minefield with variations in quality even in the same model.

@ngSamurai 3 года назад

Great Job!!!

@luisrivera-lopez3648 10 месяцев назад

Well done!

@carlosbuitragoZ 3 года назад

Excellent!

@jenkinsstudios 3 года назад

Huge thanks for that.

@GrowingAnswers 3 года назад

I appreciate the work you put in. I know that must have been exhausting. I got the l-pro but have not had a chance to play with it. My camera just got modified and I’m waiting to get it back. I’m under bortle 6-7 so I’m eagerly waiting clear skies. Thanks for your efforts.

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

The L-Pro is great for a modified camera. Clear skies! Nico

@GrowingAnswers 3 года назад

@@NebulaPhotos Is it better to custom white balance the camera before or after placing a LP filter?

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

@@GrowingAnswers After

@Gamestoker600 3 года назад

Great review, very nice! Keep it up! A small feedback for your website: It would be awesome if you could add a slider to compare the before (without) and after (with) picture using the filter, because you already have all the data. Also at the first moment I found it a little bit confusing, that in the description of the pictures there is no note that a filter is used. Especially because in the Video you compared the picture taken with a filter to the picture without.

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback. I don't know how to do the slider thing, but I can look in to it. I did make this page for directly comparing the filters in the review against no filter: www.astrofilters.com/2020/10/15/light-pollution-filter-shootout/

@GarnettLeary 3 года назад

Good job. Scientific.

@kobiorama Год назад

Great review! I intend to get the SVBONY for a modified canon 1200D (full spectrum) for bortle 8-9 conditions.

@miroslavbakos6793 2 года назад

LAB REVIEW! :-) THANK YOU!

@MrBlueSky1987 3 года назад

Hi Nico, thanks for the great review and explainations! Awesome as always, the Bob Ross of Astrophotography :D Beside that, would you recommend getting a duo narrowband filter for a modded dslr/mirrorless? or even SHO narrowband filters? Thanks :)

@NebulaPhotos 3 года назад

The duo narrowband filters are more expensive, but will be more effective at blocking light pollution and bringing out emission nebulae by increasing contrast. The downside is you won't get accurate star color with those. I probably wound't go as far as recommending SHO narrowband filters for DSLR/mirrorless because at that point I think the money would be better spent on an upgrade to a dedicated astronomy camera, but there are pros/cons there too (laptop needed, power considerations, etc.) So, all I can say in the end is "it's complicated" and really depends on your goals/desires/budget.

@MrBlueSky1987 3 года назад

@@NebulaPhotos Ok, I guess I'll stay with no filters at the moment and just go to dark places :) thanks for taking the time to answer to my question :)

@andyveneta 11 месяцев назад

Hey Nico thanks for all that you do, and btw I had a question. I have an unmodified Z5, And I was taking a look at the different filters, did some DD looking at the ones on astronomik also, and I suppose the CLS might be the best fit for her? Again it’s Unmodified and I’m at a bortle scale 7-8.

@gabrielegrazioli8340 Год назад

Congratulations for the excellent video as always. I'm shooting from polluted skies (bortle 7) with very close LED street lighting. I understand that if I use an optolong l-enhance will help a lot but I will exclude most of the colors of reflection nebulae and galaxies, if instead I still want to photograph these objects what can I use having the nearby LEDs and shooting with a not-modified reflex? Could Idas lps d3 work? Thank you

@jamesdougan8789 3 года назад

the baader Neodymium moon and sky glow works well on jupiter and mars as well for detail and the GRS.. its a good all rounder but i own a dedicated astro cam .. cheap-ish as well .... good unbiased review cheers james D