Lily clearly hasn't had a taste of her heritage, so she identifies herself as being gay because of Cam and Mitch 🤷🏻♀️ | Modern Family on Comedy Central, DStv Ch122
@@williamnguyen8663 that's the worst possible description of Vietnam considering their history... they have fought bloody wars with China to be recognized as "vietnamese".
When I saw this episode for the very first time streaming Netflix after midnight, I burst out howling for twenty minutes nonstop throughout my empty apartment when Lily says "NO! I'm gay! I'm gay!" in the restaurant. No other sitcom has ever gotten that sort of reaction out of me. 😅
It’s great that they were so neutral, giving her room to explain herself. They didn’t assume either side, that’s what children need, just parents who listen and help them understand things.
A lot of parents in the west can learn a thing or two regarding this matter nowaways. West is whack now. They might as well put their kids on a leash and give them dog food if they "identify" as a dog one day lol.
what is funny about this is even though i just realized they were learning about heritage and not homosexuality in kindergarten, the same people who are liking this comment are the same who would support learning about sexuality in kindergarten. as in I'm gay should not ever so casually come out of a 5 year old's mouth, as if there is any concept to sexuality at that age, this scene was not funny to me.
@@goodkitty6036 I think you are turning into a different direction when you talk about "people who are liking this comment". Let's focus back to the main topic which is the scene of the show. The premise is a 5 years old said she's gay, and the parent didn't immediately assume "okay she's gay", but instead asked her why she thinks she's gay, does it because she like a girl, or what... turns out no, she just misunderstood the concept of heritage, so the parent focus on explaining the concept of heritage, and that's it. As OP said, the parents listen and help them understand things that she misunderstood, in this case it's heritage, not sexuality. Hope that helps.
I assumed that's how most Americans, especially whites, are like. Unaware of the wider world outside their borders. Watched too many an impromptu interview where few to none Americans could name a country in Europe or differentiate Vietnam from Thailand, etc. Ofc, this isn't indicative of all Americans (yeah, gonna stop yall there before ya point it out), but the average Joe not knowing basic geography despite it being the age of the Internet and having geography as a class in their curriculums is wild to me.
@@alphanerd7221she’s vietnamese-american. it’s wrong to not teach a poc child their heritage as white parents. if they grow older (to where they understand what heritage is) and don’t really care about their heritage and only want to identify with their parents heritage, that’s their choice. but the child should be given the chance to connect with their heritage.
@@alphanerd7221 lmfao what? please explain to me how it is racist. i know what heritage is, i’m mexican-american. you obviously just don’t like people talking about race because you feel it targets white people, even though i never said anything negative about them.
The funny thing is those three things about Vietnam they mentioned were the exact same things I remember my mom first telling me about Vietnam when I was little. My mom showed me a book full of photos of Vietnam filled with water buffalo on rice farms, people wearing conical sun hats and riding bikes.
I love that the fact that they are a gay couple doesn’t blind them in this situation. Kids can be influenced, and I know both kinds of couples like this, the ones that let the kid be and like this situation try to guide them, and the other that would take a situation like this to go all for it and let the girl think she is actually gay, which makes me mad, people who is gay is going to be gay not matter what same for straight and so on, make kids get confused and not help them is horrible. Thats why i love this from the series.
you can force a kid to say they’re gay, (which no one does irl btw) but you cant force them to like the same sex. when they grow up they themselves will find themselves out. ur acting as if someone is forcing minors to sleep with the same sex and its repulsive.
Seems like people in the comments are missing the point. This plot tries to show that your cultural heritage is not the same as your culture. The line is often blurred because for most people the two go hand in hand. However, for Lily, who was adopted as a baby, it really does not. They take Lily to a Vietnamese restaurant later and she says something along the lines of "I don't want Pho I want a CHEESEBURGER!". It is then revealed that Gloria projects her fear of her children losing touch with their cultural heritage because she feels very much like a Colombian living in the US while she sees her children growing up to become more American.
When I saw this episode for the very first time streaming Netflix after midnight, I burst out howling for twenty minutes nonstop throughout my empty apartment when Lily says "NO! I'm gay! I'm gay!" in the restaurant. No other sitcom has ever gotten that sort of reaction out of me. 😅
@@hypernovaorcus Still. Of course, Cam and Mitch were unlikely to react terribly, being that they themselves are gay and this is a fun, light-hearted show. But in real life, way to many parents decide to send their children to semi-legal torture sites (also known as conversion therapy camps), will threaten them, hurt them, or throw them away. Outing a child to their parent can put the child in danger and it is not acceptable.
Elaina Gilbert It’s not “outing” her if Gloria asked Lily, “can we talk about this with your daddies” in the car and Lily agreed. Lily didn’t share it as a secret. She had no shame, fear, or hesitation telling her family members. So I wouldn’t call this an example of outing in any sense.
She's American an adopted by two gay men. That's her culture. 😜 Plenty of Europeans descendants in America who dont go "My culture is a European country"
Because those people have had their families immigrate to the US decades and even centuries ago. Eventually a person will no longer consider their ancestral homeland as important as the land they were born in. It's different for someone like Lily, who is technically a 1st generation immigrant to the US by being adopted by US citizens. But because she was a baby when she was adopted, she doesn't remember Vietnam. So it's a gray area for her. But look at Gloria and Manny. Manny is assimilating into American society, and it's bothering Gloria. Because, as a 1st generation immigrate who grew up in Columbia, she takes great pride in her culture and heritage. To the point that she gets defensive when Jay or someone else mocks Columbia. She wants Manny to also take pride in his Columbian heritage but over the years he's lost interest. It happens to many immigrant families. Where the kids or grandkids want to assimilate into the culture of the nation they live in. And it drives their traditional parents and grandparents crazy.
@@Melanie-jy2nw maybe if they do a continuation squeal we'll see she's a lesbian maybe the twins have some more cousins or younger siblings and maybe as 1 episode implied Hayley comes out as bi but still married or as a relative of mine kept saying Dillian was wrong for her they got divorced after it wouldn't be Dillian's first time being divorced.
We are living in a globalised world talking about culture is just so backwards. Once culture is the one you grew up with not what other peoples think it should be just because of your looks
She is too young. But she mistakingly thought being gay was a form of heritage. At school she was learning about people various backgrounds like Italian and German. So she accidentally thought she was 'gay' because she has two dads.
I Think Lily is Confused 😕 Because She Doesn't Know About Being Gay and i Think 🤔 That Se is Lebanese and I Still Think Lilly She is Most Beautiful Girl
My 7 yo niece just recently asked her mom what her pronounce are.. I told my sister to let her choose.. But my sister told my niece to use her/she.. Nip it in the bud..
🤔Would it not have made more sense to take Lily to the _library_ first? Look Vietnam up in the _encyclopedia._ Show her a few _pictures_ of the country. I mean, if you're going to adopt someone from a certain part of the world, it's in _your_ best interests to know a few things about it.
Yeah going to a restaurant was a bad idea especially with what happened. Maybe Cam and Mitchell could of found a group to enroll Lily in that would introduce her to her heritage.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl 🤔Well, I don't know. Maybe. But, clearly, _Lily's_ ignorance about the country in which she was born is not the only problem, here. Cameron and _Mitchell_ would be well advised to learn a few things about it as well, because that description they gave her was _terrible._
Phenomenally funny scene. However, cultures which grow up in not your genetic ethnicity/race. As a society, we complete the two. That's why when we make a comment about culture, people say it's racist. That is why I have more in common with different ethnicities I grew up with, then somebody that is the same ethnicity who grew up in a different country.
I’ll channel my inner Debbie Downer for a bit. I really don’t like this show. Though it does contain moments that are humorous, I just can’t get into it. The comedy is so stale.
As a French person, it would be super offensive to me if someone told a kid born in Vietnam but raised to French parents that their heritage was Vietnamese. Heritage is culture, not blood. Of course if she finds in her heart that she has feelings attached to Vietnam, as an adoptee, that’s a different story. But skin colour and birth place in France doesn’t have so much of an impact. The US is so sensitive on all this, you can tell sometimes it creates problems when there are none 🥺 Hearing this being said to a kid who has never heard of Vietnam before is a little jarring, poor baby
If that kid is born in Vietnam, to Vietnamese parents, and then raised by French parents, they still have Vietnamese heritage. They might ALSO have French heritage, but to say they do not have Vietnamese heritage would be inaccurate and kinda demeaning. I’m kinda wondering why your opinion about this seems so strong, given the very specific history of French people within Vietnam. Either way, if they didn’t tell an adopted kid who was asking about their heritage what their heritage actually was, that would be shitty. Especially if the kid has a different ethnic background than the adoptive parents. Not letting a kid learn about the culture of their ancestors is concerning and restrictive. That shouldn’t be hard to understand, even if you are French.
@Noah I'm from Uruguay and our country is formed by immigrants too. But most from Spain, France and Italia. Their made a completely new culture, instead of a copy paste for their own.
I know this is just a show, but let's pretend it would be a real scene. She's not vietnamese, she's just American. To be fair, her colleague was probably American as well.
@@Najme_ and which one is ethnicity and which one is nationality? Whichever you pick, there's gonna be at least 100 million people countering it rightfully so.
@@nydydn nationality is when you arent native to a country/region. Im ethnically Lebanese but my nationality is Canadian. If my ethnicity was say, idk, Iraqi and I moved to Lebanon, my nationality would be Lebanese and ethnicity would be Iraqi. And you can't fight over ethnicity its literally in your blood.
@@Najme_ native means being born there. Technically lily wasn't born in USA, but for all intents and purposes, she can be considered to have been born in USA. Were you born in Canada? Have you lived any significant first years somewhere else?
