@outinspace3083 true, that does sound entitled. though at the age of 19, me with my working class parents and near-poverty grandparents, I would have asked the same question anyway. why does my friend need extra money and why are they doing something my parents would never let me do - leave college.
agree but for real now, what does She Lindsay do all day???? they are not having kids, She could work in order to get the house they want faster. And maybe if She would work too, then Dean could handle to finish the college, if He wants to.
@leja9998 the town was all kinds of biased. when she and Dean slept in the 1st season at Ms Patty's , Ms Patty talked to Rory nicely and snarled angrily at Dean as if he did anything wrong. Luke a..auIted Dean, a 16year old, for breaking up with Rory. Taylor Iied to the town that Rory doesn't want to be the Ice Cream Queen because she prefers Yale and doesn't like the town anymore, and kids believed him and yelled at her. The town turned on underage Jess quickly and Babette bad-mouthed him later while giving Rory and Lorelai hot cocoa, not stopping to think that Jess could have used a cocoa and some kind words.
I hated how Lindsay was made to look like the bad guy in Rory and Dean's story, I mean, your husband spends his time talking to his first love every chance he gets, and when you confront him he takes it out on you just because the other girl just plays with the whole situation, gooooood
@dynamightsbabie she was made to look like the bad guy? she talks to him nicely and he yells at her to never check his phone. Then Rory sees her talking to the man in the store about how to prepare the food to make Dean happy. She's constantly being shown as trying to be nice to him.
She's one of those Christians so she deserves to be treated unkindly! She had some nerve wanting her husband to be a provider who didn't cheat. She needs to be a strong, independent single mom feminist who don't need no man!!!
Wow, Rory is insufferable. What exactly is wrong with construction, with any trades. Dean has never shown interest in academic study, what was he even studying. He seems like he would thrive with an apprenticeship, smart enough and strong enough to do well and earn good money. What exactly did Rory's Ivy league education get her anyway.
The trades are an honourable profession. But Rory is from a family that highly values education. So of course she would be biased. A university degree isn't necessarily to get you a job, a university degree helps one develop skills, time management, information discernment, and a well rounded education.
@@violettippet5246those aren't things that can be exclusively learned at a university though. rory's disdain for dean's job is very clearly coming from an unconscious classism she absorbed from her elitist family
@jen9996 Rory is only repeating her family's values here. when i was 19, i was also unable to see why my highschool friends are choosing paths that my parents would not agree on. My parents were very "you have to go to college and have a job, and that's it", and the idea that my peers had different plans was absurd to me. a friend of mine got married at 21 while still in college and i thought that it's way too soon and wrong.
well, he cheated on said wife with the "friend" not long after... so you have your answer right there. Home wreckers both of them! At least he got his act together later in life. She remained emotionally stunted.
Rory was awful to Lindsey who didn't do anything wrong. She treated Dean terribly and the broke up. Dean found a nice woman to be with and she was so judgemental towards her. Granted her and Dean were way too young and immature to get married but she didn't deserve that. Off topic though, I love Michel in this clip
Rory was still young and Dean was also just as guilty painting Lindsey as the awful wife so she’d go along with it, and she fell for it hook, line, and sinker because she was vulnerable while transitioning to Yale. Poor Lindsey.
@pichraksa3966 rory,like me,cannot see how her friends can drop out of school because she's 19 and her family is praising her for being in Yale. when i was 19, my parents pushed me so much to study and go to college, and when my highschool friends had other plans, i couldn't understand it either. i repeated my parents' opinions, that it is wrong to quit school.
As an adult she's really not. Lindsay was a brat and spoiled. A marriage between 2 teenagers isn't going to work out anyway, Dean and Lindsay would have divorced eventually even without Rory in the picture.
@@krn2683 A marriage between teenagers can work out though. I've got evidence in the form of my parents who have been happily married for 37 years. They still go on dates and everything.
@@krn2683 we didn't even get enough information about lindsay's character to know that she was a brat. And if their marriage would have ended "anyway" then it makes cheating ok? Bc it's not for the simple reason of a marriage coming to an end but the reason why
I think that's why Dean married her, because she is sweet. But maybe a person being sweet is not a good enough reason for matrimony. Their marriage was doomed from the start.
I actually see a lot of wrong in what Dean did all along in the Lindsay situation. Rory should have stayed out of it of course but he is the one who gives out wrong signals, starting from “Lindsay wants a townhouse”… If you are in a marriage, it should be “we want a townhouse” and Lindsay should be working too. Rory is very wise in saying that taking a one semester break is dooming your Academic career but she fails to see how Dean and her are different both on a socioeconomic plane and an intellectual one. She could afford to have a meltdown and had every opportunity to come back from it. Dean was not that interested in anything more than manual labor and this is all fine. It’s true that a university degree does not guarantee a job anyhow, as proved by Rory’s career arch in the Gilmore Girls Netflix limited series. Then again, at the stage of the whole Lindsay situation they were all in their late teens or early 20s. It is so easy to be idiotic at that age in any kind of life choice. It’s the trial and error stage of life. It generally comes back every five years or so. Lindsay should have realized she was rebound girl and she should have invested less in Dean. Dean is a good looking semi idiot who morphs into whatever shape his girlfriend wants him to be so I am not surprised he latched on to Lindsay and then was more than happy to “jump” into Rory, all the while carrying on his pretty uneventful life. Rory was stupid and immature, she wanted all the toys, but she is not mean spirited in general. Just another level of bland. In other words, maybe Dean and her were the perfect couple. She could have kept pretending to be a saint, while he was adoring her and doing everything she wanted and not much else.
@judgementalpuddinglondonca7265 disagree with your last part. you're right they both mess up, and they both even agree they will keep talking even though Lindsay doesn't want them to. the marriage should be a priority and their friendship should be put on hold here. Lindsay is very obviously following advice and example of her own mother and Dean made it clear in s1 that his mom is Donna Reed type and he kind of probably wants a wife like that. Rory is not that type, she has career plans since childhood and she's not into being a housewife like Lindsay. Dean wants Rory mostly because he never got over their breakup in s3. it wouldn't work with them. they both failed to move on. Rory had unstable shortlive dating experiences in her 1st year at Yale and Jess reminds her, as she tells Lane, that Dean made her feel all secure, predictable, safe. so she backtracks. richard and emily keep teaching her she can disregard other people, especially in season 4, and she goes for it.
@judgementalpuddinglondonca7265 you're right, Rory just can't accept that Dean has other plans and passions than her. which is pretty normal, at her age i also couldn't understand how could my highschool classmate get married so soon. i did not relate at all. Dean is not morphing into anything, though. He's being himself - he made it clear in season 1 that he wants a housewife. Rory is something unachievable for him, he can't just accept that she's too different from him. which is, again, pretty normal, teens do be like that.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 that doesn't mean she is not the other woman. And you know what? It's not the last time she's the other woman. She was always irresponsible and selfish...
@Lizmarie2086 she didn't drop out yet at this point. She later drops out, temporarily only, because not someone, but a guy who she worships as one of the best at her dream job,tells her that she will never achieve the one professional dream she had her entire life. This messed up my 27 year old friend for a few months when something very similar happened to her at her 2nd college. Rory is 21, she thinks Mitchum is someone to aspire to be, she memorizes his bio, and she never had any other career plans. That is risky and people with such one specific direction often fall apart. people who get kicked out of TV talent shows have attempted sui....es
@@dextermorgan-u2z I am aware she hadn’t dropped out yet and her situation, this issue is she is so quick to judge Dean and his situation. No empathy for that real life happens sometimes, as it later happened to her.
@@Lizmarie2086 yes, no empathy from a 19year old who, just like me, when i was 19, cannot imagine a scenario that has not happened yet. i had 1 classmate who got married at 18, and one friend who got married at 21. i had no empathy for them because i was following strongly the beliefs of my parents: Finish college, find a successful job! just like Rory who's pressured by her grandparents and partially also by her mom. 19year olds cannot imagine what life is like for someone else. why drop out of college, when all i hear my entire life is that i should never do that?
@@Lizmarie2086 when i was 18 and 19, i would also have no understanding for anyone my age who doesn't go to university, or even drops out. That was a non-option in the culture of my family and my entire highschool. most of my friends would label such person a complete Ioser. Rory is, just like everyone in my highschool + me, following the logic of her family and professors. the point is, Rory does try to correct her approach later on and be more supportive to his decisions. i never tried until i was like 26 or 27
@@celinelia8127 I don’t think Rory was raised with that societal norm mind set, especially with her mom not going to university and also living in Stars Hallow. Now, yes she has had it in her mind that she the goal was Harvard at a young age, but I think that was more of recognition of her “brilliance” and also projection from her mom. The difference between what you are describing and Rory character is that she judges from a place of entitlement and it is something we see in her character throughout the series. If she was truly felt the way you described then she would have had the same conversation with Lane or Jess. But she looks down upon Dean and Lindsay for their chosen life and because Dean isn’t living up to what she pictured and she needs another reason to not like Lindsay because she has her Dean.
Two very unpopular opinion alerts. Dean didn't love Lindsay enough to be married to her and he would have left her eventually with or without Rory. Secondly, Rory was right about Dean and college. She encouraged him to aim higher and reach his full potential and I don't think that is a hanging offence. Yes she was also jealous, but she was still right.
We will never know whether Lindsay was being selfish or whether Dean was being an unreliable narrator, but the fact remains that the love wasn’t there.
Not to defend Rory cause growing up I realized I can't stand her sometimes (especially the way her and Lorelai think they are above everybody else) but she's not entirely wrong in this! Dean was clearly interested in college and he was the provider but Lindsay could have helped too financially to achieve their dreams, even if they were more of a traditional couple doesn't mean a woman can't provide and do her part... I understand hating on Rory is a trend nowadays but we can't deny she's not exactly wrong, she's a spoiled brat yes but it's not her fault her grandparents are rich and she got the chance to be privileged in life, I would accept help from my grandparents too if I had the chance! So yeah everything was handed to her but we would take advantage of a privilege too if we had one, let's be realistic here.
@makeupdoll7413 i don't get the Roryhate. sure,she does bad things, that's the point of the show, how Emily and Richard corrupt the purer version of her from season 1. when i was 19, i was also unable to see why my highschool friends are choosing paths that my parents would not agree on. My parents were very "you have to go to college and have a job, and that's it".
She’s not just privileged. She’s a home wrecker. Not all privileged people in real life are bad people. Rory just happens to be both in this TV show. Who doesn’t dislike entitled, selfish people?
@@deztheray8935 and things didn't seem that good from the first episode when she almost rejected all of her mother's efforts to get her into the private school she wanted since who knows how long just bc that day a cute guy talked to her 😭😭
@ElizabethBennett96 i only started watching when I was 35, older than Lorelai in s1. so i watch it from a perspective of a middle aged grownup. I see Rory as a normal teenage girl. she's smart at times, and she makes mistakes a lot, like a teenager. I mostly think about what would i do if i was Lorelai and i think Lorelai is right to not force Rory too often to date or not date someone. she does yell at Rory though in ep1 of season 3 to pick one guy and not treat the other badly.
@@deztheray8935 yeah,and she's 17 there and she admits it to her mom. her mother does yell at Rory right afterwards in ep1 of season 3 to pick one guy and not treat the other badly. I only watch this show since my mid 30s so i think Rory is a normal teenager. she's doing some bad stuff and she also does good stuff. i look at it all from the perspective of someone Lorelai's age, and i mostly think about what would i say to Rory if she was my daughter. mostly i think Lorelai is right to call her out when she's messing up but not forcing her to date or to break up with anyone.
Lindsay deserved so much better, Dean cheating on her with Rory was so foul. I just wish this storyline didn’t exist in the show. Also Rory was very wrong for what she said about Lindsay.
@user-hl1ct3yh1r pretty standard for 19 year old people. most of them realistically feel misunderstood, with so much chaos happening in their heads, still not quite out of puberty. I know i was a mix of everything my parents say is true (i have to go to college, otherwise my life is over), and actually not having any real idea how to defend the position that people should not physically touch me without my consent. someone who gives me romantic feelings might have felt back then to me as "the only one who understands me"
Some people hate Rory because she’s entitled and stuck up. So what. Anyone who’s criticizing the Rory haters and calling them psychopaths are the ones taking it too far. It’s a show and the fan base can participate any way they want.
@lauralie5791 i wouldn't call anyone names over hatingRory, but i do think the hate is going too far. Rory is a 19year old repeating her family's values. when i was 19, i was also unable to see why my highschool friends are choosing paths that my parents would not agree on.
@lauralie5791 it's a little weird to hate a teenager so much, even if fictional on a tv show. The very first episode shows you that Rory starts re-thinking entering her dream highschool, just because she has her first crush. she's 16. it's completely normal for a teenager. she also ends up doing the right decision.
I don’t understand how people disliked Rory’s ending with the revival. Rory deserved the ending she was given. The way she belittled and treated people like dean always bothered me. I’m glad in the end, Dean lives out a great life with a family and Jess pushes through to create a novel and a stable life. She becomes an elitist jerk as the show progresses. Realizing the hard way that there are other far more elite and smarter people than her. Mitchum showed her that and it broke her. Doing the exact thing she critiques dean here with his semester break.
What's the story with Lindsay and Michel? Did he have a crush on her? Why did she say he was standing in a funny way and he said it was because of his pants?
@lagarde2011 he is standing funny bcs he complained before about carrying the heavy furniture. He probably has a bit of a crush here but he never showed the crush in any other scene.
@user-rg9ji4yq2c we don't know if Lindsay was really seIfish, because we don't see her talking about it. We don't know if maybe her mother didn't push Lindsay and Dean into it. we only know Dean's short version of it. also, Dean was never super nerdy, he was not into academics like Rory, so maybe he's doing what also he wants, not only what Lindsay wants.
@user-rg9ji4yq2c that is never proven. Lindsay seems to always obey her mother. and Dean seems to not be against the townhouse. it might be not selfish at all
When they say “small” about Rory’s room, are they being serious?! That’s a huge room! They should see the box room I got when I went to University 😂 Edit: oh I just noticed she shares it with someone… still, it’s not exactly small 😂
I get that Rory did mistakes and all, hated skme of them myself. But she wasn't wrong about Lindsay, what WAS she doing all day at home, getting bored and then taking it out on Dean that she gets bored and he has no mood for visits. She missed the point where for the kinda life she wanted she had to marry a way older guy 😅
I agree that after Rory did to Dean she should just stfu. At the same time, there is some true in what she said: " What does Lindsey do all day?????". She should get a job to help Dean so He can finish the college, at least if He wants to
@dddeeee9222 she doesn't know yet that she will dropout. when i was 19, i was also unable to see why my highschool friends are choosing paths that my parents would not agree on. My parents were very "you have to go to college and have a job, and that's it",
@@dextermorgan-u2z ik but still telling someone something and not applying it on yourself is not something we expect from rory and she also didnt listen to anyone not even lorelai also here dean has stronger case because lindsay is his wife whereas rory left because of logans fathers words
@@dddeeee9222 telling someone something and not applying it on yourself is not what Rory is doing at all here. Right now and here, she's super into Yale. Yale is her priority here. She's telling Dean to do what she herself is also doing. The part where Rory is wrong here is that she cannot imagine any FUTURE scenario where she would ever drop out of Yale - but you know that scenario exists because you saw season 5........ She will find out in the future - this is the growing up story. This is very typical for teenagers: they think there is something they would neeever do. They cannot imagine themselves ever going back on their word. But the growing up is about learning that actually, you don't know yourself. You think you would never do something, but life proves you wrong in the future. That is Rory's coming off age story. People do change, evolve and develop new scars.
since she was "raised by the village" and is everybody's favourite she should've gotten a reaction from the whole town really. we know the gossip runs fast in small places and everyone's fav golden child being the other woman? with the guy she cheated on too?? honestly that should've made it to the town newspaper lol
@leja9998 that town was messed up and unreliable. they all were against an underage Jess. Babette badmouthed him to Rory and Lorelai while giving them hot cocoa, not stopping to think that the abandoned by his mom and dad sad Jess could have used also a cocoa and some kind words. Taylor told the town that Rory doesn't want to be the Ice Cream Queen because she doesn't like the town anymore and likes only Yale. the kids believed him and yelled at Rory. Ms Patty growled at Dean in season 1 after he and Rory slept at her place as if it was Dean's fault and she talked nicely to Rory. they were all messed up.
Rory and Jess deserve eachother they where bot such bad partners. What Dean did was so shitty to Lindsay but he was a good boyfriend to Rory. The audacity for her to lecture someone she doesnt even hang out with anymore on his economical choices as if its "cute" she had an attitude and also blaming his wife when she knows NOthInG of the situation? Like a spoiled teenager. Never understood either how people could like Jess when he: was mean to a guy (Dean) he doesn't know, mean to Rory when he was showing interest in her (love how we are still romanticizing guys being dicks to girls they like cause "Boys will be boys") and THEN when they where together he was flaky cold and got angry at her for not wanting sex?!??! Not to fOrgeT the RECKLESS DRIVING he did that caused an accident and him leaving her in the car?!?!?.💀
first she cant say shit about their relationship when rory was the other women in the relationshop when dean was married. Rory strung jess along while dating dean. Rory dropped out and jess was the one to convince her to go back to school not dean. Rory also in the reboot became the other woman again with logan and never learned nothing
Dean reminds me of my ex, short tempered, and indignant he is always right and thinks evryone else should agree with him. I hate both Dean and my ex. Only my ex was lazy, and thought welfare was a good idea. At least Dean was willing to work.
@violettippet5246 i'm sorry your ex did not treat you well, as you deserve. Dean,however, does not think he's always right. he accepts and obey Lorelai's advice to call less and give Rory space. He accepts that Rory has to obsess about Harvard and apologizes to her. He also apologizes here for getting angry, even though he was right to reject Rory's comments on his personal life. he does not think everyone else should agree with him at all, there are many other situations where he accepts that people disagree with him.
Why? College the only way to make a living? I see a lot of college grads working at Starbucks and call centers. Heck, Rory went to Yale and has a crap job in A Year in the Life. She’s an entitled, elitist character.
@@krn2683 ya but then again, remember Dean likes the whole 50s vibe thing when the wife stays home and cooks for the husband? And Lindsay looks like she was brought up this way as well because her mom is very traditional. She could get a job but Dean did say he liked the idea of working and then being taken care of at home and he can’t have elaborate home cooked meals if she’s working a job too.
how? she finished Yale and wasn't able to get a job. Without her father and grandparents she would be somewhere under a bridge in NY.... Dean was right, college doesn't ensure you get a well payed job afterwards! And people do go back to school. Lindsay did it as well after their marriage ended.
You know they say you should read the little prince once when you're young and once you're older so you get to different stories, THIS IS THE SAMEE!! I realize now that what Dean wanted it's not some crazy thing and Rory is the controlling chick here 😳🥲
