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@Daitomodachi
@Daitomodachi 3 года назад
Yo Dai here, one of the animators for this Deathbattle. Wanna thank the Deathbattle team for allowing us to animate this rematch using Blender. It was one of the hardest projects I've ever worked on, but it was worth it. Hope you guys like more what the Blender team has in store.
@TheLaserLordLOL
@TheLaserLordLOL 3 года назад
You guys did amazing!
@KlyntarNage666
@KlyntarNage666 3 года назад
Props to you for the amazing animation
@juubi249
@juubi249 3 года назад
You did an absolutely fantastic job with this, thank you so much!
@onboro7707
@onboro7707 3 года назад
Here to tell you that that fight was amazing! So intense, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, especially towards the end!
@Sean_Bird
@Sean_Bird 3 года назад
You guys made a great battle!
@nathanielgrindstaff4909
@nathanielgrindstaff4909 3 года назад
I don't know about anyone else, but I am totally convinced that Link started this fight just because Cloud was going five miles over the speed limit.
@sanbi221
@sanbi221 3 года назад
And Cloud finished it because Link broke those pots.
@cormchaos2810
@cormchaos2810 3 года назад
I died laughing. Why is that so true tbh 😂
@foxshock5571
@foxshock5571 2 года назад
Actually, this is a prequel of Super Smash Bros. It show how Cloud got in Smash.
@thedarkoracle4807
@thedarkoracle4807 2 года назад
@@foxshock5571 Does Link remember events from his past life, or is each Link effectively a new character?
@zanelebushgenie270
@zanelebushgenie270 2 года назад
@@thedarkoracle4807 every link is a new person
@wellthathappened9435
@wellthathappened9435 3 года назад
I can’t get over the fact that Link stopped fighting just to smash some pots, my man
@beipiaosaurus
@beipiaosaurus 3 года назад
The sound effects do indicate he found a rupy.
@pigifi
@pigifi 3 года назад
wouldn't be link if he doesn't smash pottery.
@juura78
@juura78 3 года назад
Cloud was a gentle man and saved a very innocent pot
@Hyperneosonic97
@Hyperneosonic97 3 года назад
@@juura78 Also stopping Link from vandalizing the late Aerith's favourite place.
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 3 года назад
Especially because that's what he does during boss fights too (to look for hearts) and, as evidenced by The Fierce Diety's Mask, this WAS a boss fight.
@alexacortes579
@alexacortes579 Год назад
Link pausing to break all the pots has me weak in the knees it’s too funny and too accurate
@Chromaray
@Chromaray 11 месяцев назад
I think I heard a heart sound effect so it's like breaking all the containers in a boss room.
@thundergaming155
@thundergaming155 6 месяцев назад
Or pots under the gandorf arena in ocarina of time.
@quicksilver5789
@quicksilver5789 4 месяца назад
I thought it was about getting more health, but the absolute gleaming smile on his face as he saw and ran up to the first pot proves it was just because he loves breaking them.
@nadavcohen3721
@nadavcohen3721 3 года назад
Cloud: *rides motorcycle* Link: "and I took that personally"
@Jorgito-zq5iu
@Jorgito-zq5iu 3 года назад
Fr my man was chilling
@quirinkanada2111
@quirinkanada2111 3 года назад
Cloud took it personal when he started breaking the pots
@teddlo9669
@teddlo9669 3 года назад
*More like:* *Link:* "Hup. Hiya! HAIYA!"
@xheralt
@xheralt 3 года назад
How in the hell did Link end up with a 300hp "horse", and when did he learn how to drive?
@tinywomanhours
@tinywomanhours 3 года назад
@Yol Riin Lask pretentious much?
@goatresx1799
@goatresx1799 2 года назад
Link: breaks Aerith’s pots Cloud: *peace was never an option*
@scotmmical2707
@scotmmical2707 2 года назад
Aerith x cloud forever
@the300club8
@the300club8 2 года назад
😅😅😂
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 2 года назад
Cloud: Wants to protect pots. Link: Breaks any pots he sees. My God. They're _natural enemies!_
@spidergoat533
@spidergoat533 2 года назад
Watching link destroy pots without remorse was hilarious,
@SDSXellan
@SDSXellan 2 года назад
Idk, seems like your standard rpg game
@smashbro67
@smashbro67 3 года назад
Fitting that Link cares less about the fight and more about breaking pottery.
@oofergoofer1029
@oofergoofer1029 3 года назад
Had me dying
@TickedOffPriest
@TickedOffPriest 3 года назад
Cloud cared more about saving the pottery.
@Gameguy5289
@Gameguy5289 3 года назад
That and how Cloud was less focused about destroying stuff. Shows how different their games are. Zelda's has items in pots and FF has theirs in fight drops and stores.
@dp9139
@dp9139 3 года назад
That was awesome! I'm so happy the show has been remade, it's beautiful. The end was no surprise though, Link is from an action game based on riddles while Cloud is from a fantasy x space opera game based on super powers.
@Tinyangel12
@Tinyangel12 3 года назад
@@dp9139 now that I say that... I can see why he lost now XD
@NTRWL69
@NTRWL69 Год назад
The fact that Cloud cares about that garden pot more than Link makes me laugh everytime
@CloudStrife8894
@CloudStrife8894 10 месяцев назад
Here's the thing with the pots though, Those pots and this is true because those pots belong to a close friend of mine that was killed by the hands of sephiroth.
@worldscoolestperson7672
@worldscoolestperson7672 9 месяцев назад
@CloudStrife8894 thats rough, buddy.
@matheusdiefenthaeler5342
@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 7 месяцев назад
Oh Link probably care about these pots more than Cloud, just not in the way Cloud expected ...
@hahamadeyouread214
@hahamadeyouread214 3 года назад
Imagine both of them eating a meal prepared by Link Cloud: What is this delicacy ? link: EH, HIYEW, DAAAH Cloud: sounds exotic
@esteban8471
@esteban8471 3 года назад
I'd imagine Cloud's friends saying that instead but they would tell Cloud to thank Link and compliment the food. At least, that's the vibe the FF7 remake gave me.
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 3 года назад
@@esteban8471 yeah
@goukisama007
@goukisama007 3 года назад
This is the best comment I've read on death battle 😂. Bravo!
@hanburgundy4317
@hanburgundy4317 3 года назад
Tifa: "Geez, Cloud; the least you could do is say thank you." Aeris: "Come on, Cloud. Tell Link thank you for the delicious meal he prepared." Cloud: "Hmm... thanks, it's... yummy."
@hahamadeyouread214
@hahamadeyouread214 3 года назад
@@hanburgundy4317 link: HAH, ZEEAAAHH, AWOOO
@AhmedAhmed-zm7dv
@AhmedAhmed-zm7dv 3 года назад
If you don’t like the outcome, Settle it in Smash!!
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 3 года назад
Oh boy here we go. But my opinion still stands. I hope Link Wins again....but on the other Hand if Cloud wins the That makes them even. There both my main fighters of Smash Bros Anyways. Cloud can be worthy to Defeat Ganon though as proof as I did as Cloud taking on OOT Ganon Adventure mode Hardest lvl there is
@standard1703
@standard1703 3 года назад
@@bradhedgehog12 in terms of sheer strength and speed Cloud definitely wins, but Link has tons of tools. Both are great innovators and can think on their toes. I think the only thing that Link has over Cloud is a strong willpower and confidence in himself and his capabilities, and a shield. Since these guys use in-game stats and not story canon I know for a fact Link is still gonna be buffed wayy up and Cloud is gonna get nerfed, but regardless of the winner the fight will still be entertaining. Cloud and Link are both long time favorites so I could be satisfied with either winner
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 3 года назад
@@standard1703 Agree. Both boys again are my Main Smash Bro Fighters. And I think They make a good team.
@chhaysour5241
@chhaysour5241 3 года назад
Wario vs King Dedede in a nutshell.
@nooder0ni
@nooder0ni 3 года назад
@@standard1703 Link also has the experience going for him. Like, by a LOT. Remember, he's basically the same soul being forced to reincarnate over multiple generations just to thwart the plans of literal Gods and Demons(and beat the ever living crap outta them, too). He ain't no ordinary fairy, boi.
@RealCFZ
@RealCFZ 2 года назад
Link: *Becomes Fierce Deity* Cloud: WAIT A MINUTE?! •Long Sword •White Hair •Taller than me Cloud: You’ve gotta be shitting me. ??? next to Cloud’s ear: HELLO THERE!
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 2 года назад
Nah, Fierce Deity's sword needs another foot or two added to it to be mistaken for Masamune. Also, Fierce Deity is missing those gorgeous locks, that are almost as long as the sword itself.
@davidmilton5473
@davidmilton5473 Год назад
I like how when it starts to rain you can hear link playing the ocarina. That was a nice detail that i noticed
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
I mean, considering that it was Link playing the ocarina that caused it to rain, it makes sense.
@valor1omega
@valor1omega Год назад
And it gave link's position away.
@jacobh3426
@jacobh3426 Год назад
He played the song of storms
@CityBoySeb
@CityBoySeb 3 года назад
Cloud: *survives a Supernova to the face* Zack: *dies from bullets*
@SenjiroAkechi
@SenjiroAkechi 3 года назад
I mean, cloud got hurt by bullets too in advent children. Literally right after ff7.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
@TheTrueHolyDarkness 3 года назад
Also Cloud: *gets stabbed by sephiroth.* Sephiroth: *gets counter-stabbed by cloud and thrown meters into the lifestream, but is perfectly fine later. So is cloud.* Dyne: *successfully commits suicide by jumping off a cliff after that whole barret episode.* Tifa: *gets slashed by sephiroth and falls down at least two stories worth of stairs. nah she's fine.* Aerith: *gets stabbed by sephiroth yet no amount of healing magic works all of a sudden(?).* Zack: *gets sniped and just plain drops dead.* Cloud: *sniped by a bullet that **_CLEARLY runs him through_** at the end of advent children. anti-climatically gets up two seconds later, no damage to his sweater (wut?).* Durability feats are HELLUVA inconsistent in FF7. It's just plain poor writing on FF7's part, and my greatest pet peeve with it's storytelling. I don't mean to bash everything about FF7's writing, but there's little to no tension in their fights precisely because there's no telling what's meant to be a "lethal wound" in their world. Too much anime-logic in how injuries work in their world if you ask me. It's one of the things I really appreciate about the FFXV: Kingslayer movie. Square's writers finally learned to treat a character getting injured as actually _getting injured._ If I told you that I work for Square-Enix, and that in the next big FVII update we're going to mix things up by having Yuffie, Vincent, and/or Cid getting sniped and/or stabbed with a piece of rhubarb (during a cutscene), as a fan, you'd have no idea as to whether or not you should be concerned with how we're "changing things." Wouldn't you?
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
@TheTrueHolyDarkness 3 года назад
EDIT: One last observation... Cloud: *can survive supernova, so naturally this makes him too durable for Link to handle* The rest of the Avalanche Cast: *can also survive supernova* By this logic, any member of AVALANCE is just plain too tanky to be stopped by the likes of say, Samus Aran's plasma beams, let alone Link, right? Fire Lord Ozai? More like Fire Loser Osai as far as Barrett's immune black ass is concerned. Not even the Phoenix Force could ever hope to put a dent into Yuffie Kisaragi! She's too stronk against flame! Superman's heat vision against the MIGHTY CAITH SITH?! Hardy har har. Such tactics are nothing before the almighty supernova durability feat. CAITH MOTHERFUCKIN SITH eats thousands of years worth of the Sun's energy output for breakfast! *Also according to Deathbattle.* Tifa Lockhart loses to Yang Xiao Long, a martial artist character whose signature super-power is called "Burn."
@x0uzumakinaruto0x
@x0uzumakinaruto0x 3 года назад
@@TheTrueHolyDarkness I am in no way saying you're wrong, but I am giving what I think could be somewhat reasonable explanations. I'm not saying "actually it works like this," just how I think. Sephiroth could have missed vital organs. It's not impossible that Cloud would survive. After all, we know Sephiroth likes to play with his toys before he breaks them. The lifestream is insane and Sephiroth is essentially a clone of Jenova. Not surprised he survived. Dyne was a regular human. He fell and bashed his head probably who knows how many times, and didn't even struggle. Tifa could have gotten a shallow wound, doing more surface damage than real damage. Again, Sephi likes to play with his toys before he breaks them. As for the stairs, as long as she didn't break her neck, she'd come out with a few nasty bruises, but overall, okay. I still don't know about Aerith, but my idea is that dying and being K.O.'d is very different. Given how cheap materia and healing items can be, I feel that they cannot actually bring someone back to life. They can only resuscitate an unconscious person. That said, when Aerith got stabbed, I imagine is was right through the heart.
@kirara2516
@kirara2516 3 года назад
@@SenjiroAkechi what you should be asking is, after Cloud gets hit by Yazoo, he then actually 'dies' by an explosion of Yazoo and Loz overloading their materia. Apparently exploding materia at point blank range is stronger than an exploding sun? I suppose we should be thankful Aerith and Zack decided to send him back from the lifestream.
@tabby5228
@tabby5228 3 года назад
Best part was link stopping to destroy the pottery, and Cloud catching pottery to save it.
@trythelight8319
@trythelight8319 3 года назад
It was just *so* in character and had me laughing! The battle was also quite tense when it needed to be, second guessing my expectations each moment!
@mattjohnson8585
@mattjohnson8585 3 года назад
It even looked like Link kept trying for it and would have just ignored Cloud XD
@justarandomguy54
@justarandomguy54 3 года назад
That was hilarious.
@JD4Christ
@JD4Christ 5 месяцев назад
You don't break Aerith flower pots while Clouds around lol
@PedroCampos-r1j
@PedroCampos-r1j День назад
Ben 10 Favhulia.
@redvelvet7706
@redvelvet7706 3 года назад
Such a little but neat detail is when the song of storms was not just part of the score, but altered the weather in order for Link to draw power from lightning. Love that.
@juubi249
@juubi249 3 года назад
I also love the slowed down, almost sort of mysterious feel the song of storms had in the score, it was so good
@deathnights-bane3301
@deathnights-bane3301 3 года назад
I mean yes, but better songs could have been played to change the tide of battle
@melast4928
@melast4928 Год назад
I already guessed that Cloud would have won. But honestly for Link being just a human vs a literal superhuman he put up a good fight.
@EntombedToast70
@EntombedToast70 Год назад
Best part? Link probably just revived later on
@porkcracklins630
@porkcracklins630 Год назад
@@EntombedToast70 Or he didn't resurrect for a thousand years. It really depends on what the 3 goddesses need him for.
@EntombedToast70
@EntombedToast70 Год назад
@@porkcracklins630 true
@pipzgutz
@pipzgutz 10 месяцев назад
Isn't link an elf?
@EntombedToast70
@EntombedToast70 10 месяцев назад
@@pipzgutz not really, most hylians die around 120-140, certainly long lived but not elves
@phanboy8059
@phanboy8059 3 года назад
Is it wierd that the part where Link cannot stop himself from smashing the pots even though he is in the middle of a fight and Cloud going out of his way to save one of them is among my favorite parts of this episode?
@nealenthenerd399
@nealenthenerd399 3 года назад
I love he tries to care for Aerith’s church even in battle.
@blueotter5954
@blueotter5954 3 года назад
Elegant is it not
@TrueZero2
@TrueZero2 3 года назад
I was honestly expecting that last pot to come in clutch for Link at one point. Maybe it had a fairy in it.
@RhizometricReality
@RhizometricReality 3 года назад
The animators did fantastic
@astaku8374
@astaku8374 3 года назад
@@TrueZero2 I think I heard a recovery effect. He probably did find a fairy
@daltoncarverxc
@daltoncarverxc 3 года назад
They forgot the most important rune of all: the camera rune.
@gmtwj-fye7898
@gmtwj-fye7898 3 года назад
explain?
@Blue_Firefox
@Blue_Firefox 3 года назад
@@gmtwj-fye7898 selfies
@faceache3466
@faceache3466 3 года назад
@@gmtwj-fye7898 I think that was supposed to be a joke
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
In Age of Calamity, it’s stupidly powerful.
@RevilloPhoenix
@RevilloPhoenix 3 года назад
@@gmtwj-fye7898 I think it's a reference to the original Link vs Cloud death battle where Link just blocks the onislash v5 simply by Z targeting lock on to keep turning at cloud with his shield. Using a meta game mechanic instead of a character feat as the match winning move.
@Ultrastar08
@Ultrastar08 3 года назад
The track is called "Final Breath" that's a solid name
@sdmffuentebella9002
@sdmffuentebella9002 3 года назад
It is indeed.
@sdmffuentebella9002
@sdmffuentebella9002 3 года назад
All I need to know is when is it coming out
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
@@sdmffuentebella9002 wait for Brandon Yates. Hopefully it comes out before this episode.
@TheShadow1347
@TheShadow1347 3 года назад
Yep
@charsonic1771
@charsonic1771 3 года назад
I agree
@Miko_Hanamori
@Miko_Hanamori Год назад
The only reason why Link lost is because they didn't include his speedrunner form
@mysterykiddo2167
@mysterykiddo2167 5 месяцев назад
LOL
@AwesomeMooseSmile
@AwesomeMooseSmile 5 месяцев назад
I still really want a death battle between speedrunner Link or Mario from the N64 games versus a RU-vid poop character like Carlton Banks or Spingebill
@martinbasten192
@martinbasten192 13 дней назад
They later explained that Cloud could even keep up with Bahamut going 1200x the speed of light. I doubt it would've worked
@drowsykyle8263
@drowsykyle8263 Год назад
Can we admit that Fierce Deity Link stomping towards Cloud was terrifying.
@matheusdiefenthaeler5342
@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 Год назад
Not so much when Cloud look at him with a "I don't care" face and dodge a giant bounder casually... But the Fierce Deity form is very cool
@lelandholmquist2467
@lelandholmquist2467 Год назад
⁠@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342If I remember correctly it turns him into a literal god at least as close to one as possible.
@matheusdiefenthaeler5342
@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 Год назад
​@@lelandholmquist2467 right, it does turn him into a god, but as every game, series, movies and cartoons shows to us is that gods are subjective, different in every world, and the ones in Legend of Zelda... well... you can easily picture all of them dying...
@noabsolutelynot3660
@noabsolutelynot3660 Год назад
​@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 Not really. The only gods we've actually seen in Zelda are FD, Hylia and the Golden ones. The Golden ones are many times the power of the triforce, Hylia only seems weak because she had to reincarnate in Mortal form, and Fierce Deity is a planet buster at *least*
@nori87
@nori87 Год назад
nah
@Ignore__Me
@Ignore__Me 3 года назад
Don’t worry guys, if Link dies we can always clap and bring him back to life.
@Cam-jl9kh
@Cam-jl9kh 3 года назад
"He's not a fairy!"
@juubi249
@juubi249 3 года назад
That just sent me back 9 years
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
He’s not a fairy! He’s a lost boy from Neverland.
@Wolfo277
@Wolfo277 3 года назад
I'll be sad if he does tho 😥
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 3 года назад
@@Silent_Fool Peter pan
@perryhahn5525
@perryhahn5525 2 года назад
Either way, the moment Link took off the cape and raised his sword for lightning was DOPE
@Fenrix9
@Fenrix9 2 года назад
14:35
@TheSuperSmashBros01
@TheSuperSmashBros01 2 года назад
That was a badass moment
@marioandfriends_official
@marioandfriends_official 2 года назад
The fact that he set it up with the song of storms makes it a great detail too
@kaelli2892
@kaelli2892 Год назад
Cloud VS Raiden | Final Fantasy vs Metal Gear Rising | DEATH BATTLE
@TheSuperSmashBros01
@TheSuperSmashBros01 Год назад
0:41 Intro 1:06 Link 6:06 Cloud 12:04 Fight
@At-sign
@At-sign 8 месяцев назад
You are a true hero for some Completely useless to others
@drmadhappy
@drmadhappy 3 месяца назад
​@@At-sign the most factual comment in existence
@vm141789
@vm141789 3 года назад
Totally inaccurate. Cloud never asked for his money.
@plusultra12001
@plusultra12001 3 года назад
Completely inaccurate. But your reasons is questionable
@Rebel_Friend
@Rebel_Friend 3 года назад
We never did see what kind of loot Link dropped, so maybe he dropped some rupees. The real challenge would be to exchange said rupees for gil.
@skippygh0st248
@skippygh0st248 3 года назад
Seeing Link die in this isn't as bad or impactful to me considering all the torture and deaths I've put him throughout the 4 years of Breath of the Wild.
@DOOGIE_PLAYZZZZ
@DOOGIE_PLAYZZZZ 3 года назад
You had me in the first half not gonna lie
@canyouhelpmegetto69kwithno22
@canyouhelpmegetto69kwithno22 3 года назад
I’ve literally jumped off cliffs on purpose in botw on purpose cause I was bored
@niasayamuongbo6498
@niasayamuongbo6498 3 года назад
Zelda
@Ethan-yd4gn
@Ethan-yd4gn 3 года назад
Like when you're essentially on the standing on the bay of a pond, but still drown. Sad times
@Twilight17Petkoton
@Twilight17Petkoton 3 года назад
Even know Link lose to Cloud. But Cloud lost in Video games in E3 Nintendo got a S rank and Square Enix a D rank. Showing great game on Nintendo on up and down moments on E3. Square Enix not so much a little on worsted moments. So Link wins on video games.
@starmancrusader
@starmancrusader 3 года назад
I like how Cloud sees Link on the motorcycle after him and he’s like “him again”
@gregbethscheider5912
@gregbethscheider5912 2 года назад
I was thinking the exact same thing that you said when I started watching the fight
@nahor88
@nahor88 2 года назад
Link already beat Cloud once; they weren't gonna have Link win again. Still safe to say Link wins a popularity contest.
@hernandeznestor7685
@hernandeznestor7685 2 года назад
@@nahor88 well Super Man rektd Goku twice. If they do a 3rd round It would be just to please weebs AND neckbeards
@nahor88
@nahor88 2 года назад
@@hernandeznestor7685 I've never played a single Final Fantasy game, but I do know Link was able to block Omnislash the 1st round as regular Link using z-targeting... what happened to that?
@hernandeznestor7685
@hernandeznestor7685 2 года назад
@@nahor88 you mean the figth were cloud didnt cast any spells while link used all His arsenals?
@morrigancollins2092
@morrigancollins2092 Год назад
I'd love to see this fight again now that Link has Tears of the Kingdom to draw on. Mechs aren't on par with summons but it'd still be fun to see Bahamut and ToTK mechs trading lasers, at least until the mech's batteries ran out.
@themonkeyman2910
@themonkeyman2910 11 месяцев назад
Cloud when Link builds a floating mass of beam emmitters and construct heads:
@TheBenchLord
@TheBenchLord 9 месяцев назад
​@@themonkeyman2910Can't wait for Link vs Cloud 3 when Link pulls out a Gundam
@wickian9571
@wickian9571 6 месяцев назад
I get that they take everything from the media of the characters at face value to try and keep things "fair", but taking the Super Nova at face value and scaling Cloud to that level of durability(capable of tanking an actual super nova and then standing back up and dusting himself off) is just absurd lol.
@dusk_phoenix07
@dusk_phoenix07 5 месяцев назад
I don't think it would make much of a difference, especially if you consider Cloud when he reaches his full potential.
@SurprisedFireflies-ik4kt
@SurprisedFireflies-ik4kt 3 месяца назад
Third time's the charm lol
@alexcage08
@alexcage08 3 года назад
I knew link was losing once he grew. Usually whoever uses the big move first loses in death battle
@mistersippi2945
@mistersippi2945 3 года назад
Huh, you’re right. Didn’t notice that.
@TheBronf
@TheBronf 3 года назад
not all the time. allmight and might guy is a example. as well as kakashi and obi wan.
@wolfwarrior1176
@wolfwarrior1176 3 года назад
@@TheBronf i still find it awesome that all might could go square off against 7 gates might guy
@archibaldc.1833
@archibaldc.1833 3 года назад
I think they started getting tired of the comments always making fun if that trope so they decide to invert it from time to time.
@archibaldc.1833
@archibaldc.1833 3 года назад
@@vginsprdsobepr9698 Cloid
@thevisionary5313
@thevisionary5313 3 года назад
We all know why link lost. He forgot to grab the mid-dungeon item that can defeat cloud.
@reaganhernandez6041
@reaganhernandez6041 3 года назад
He Already Did In His First Battle
@mafrodisiak2673
@mafrodisiak2673 3 года назад
@@reaganhernandez6041 first battle!?
@shanesmith2050
@shanesmith2050 3 года назад
@@mafrodisiak2673 this is the rematch
@mrboerger1620
@mrboerger1620 3 года назад
Duh
@emerylsg
@emerylsg 3 года назад
this was a very clever joke
@Joe.Elston-Gardner
@Joe.Elston-Gardner 3 года назад
I feel like speed scaling in death battle often doesn't reflect how fast the characters really are, like in that world are the laser beams and lightning attacks really as fast as ours? or with Cloud if he can scale to a creature who can move across the solar system in like 10 seconds then couldn't he have instantly travelled across the continent in his search of sephiroth if he is anyway scalable to that. I don't really have a solution, but I just feel these kind of speed scaling often gives a result which makes a character seem way faster than what they are otherwise represented as being in the game.
@christophermonteith2774
@christophermonteith2774 3 года назад
not the best, but kingdom hearts scaling would indicate FTL at least, so its not impossible
@pandaeyez
@pandaeyez 3 года назад
Nope. He doesn't need to be able to hurdle through the cosmos like Bahamut, simply reacting and moving fast enough to keep up with it is a feat in itself. Link doesn't zap across the skies like a lightning bolt either, but he can react fast enough to dodge it. Both Zack and Cloud being first class soldiers (or just being beyond the level of one in Cloud's case) meant they had superhuman reflexes and speed, but it's that reactive speed and their own speed that allows them to keep up with Bahamut and Sephiroth and Weapons, etc. If you can anticipate, react and move just fast enough, then a fast opponent means nothing.
@turnttaco7661
@turnttaco7661 3 года назад
Yeah it's still a great fear for sure but death battle has always had trouble differentiating between travel speed and combat speed
@DenderFriend
@DenderFriend 3 года назад
You don't always move at your top speed or punch your strongest hit, but Death Battle judges characters based on their best.
@XUIW
@XUIW 3 года назад
I just don’t like how they use most of game logic/mechanics to justify a feat.
@MichaelMurphy-wv4so
@MichaelMurphy-wv4so 11 месяцев назад
I love that Cloud cares about property while Link is just vandalizing everything in sight lol 😅
@somacraig
@somacraig 3 года назад
Link: *slowly rolls about 5 feet in 1 second* Death Battle: HE CAN MOVE AT 1/10TH THE SPEED OF LIGHT! Cloud: *swings a sword at a dragon* Death Battle: HE'S MOVING AT 1200X THE SPEED OF LIGHT!!! I wonder how fast these guys think Epona and the Hardy-Daytona are...
@jasondarmasaputra7307
@jasondarmasaputra7307 3 года назад
I agree that statement is stupid, link should be considered predicting where the laser would hit, and dodged, and cloud is fighting a dragon who is probably slowing it self down in order to fight back, i mean we can see that the dragon stood still while he demolished that beast
@DJCreepero
@DJCreepero 3 года назад
@@jasondarmasaputra7307 this man already smarter than most researchers in death battle but sadly these researchers take it literally and use average also it felt unfair on how cloud can survive a supernova while link could barely handle it oh wait cloud almost died by a sword does that mean that sword can kill 5 solar systems no they just use average so Cloud wins
@GuyWithAnAmazingHat
@GuyWithAnAmazingHat 3 года назад
On top of that the reaction speed needed isn't that much because Link dodging the "laser" is literally performed by any average player of the game.
@theovernight1915
@theovernight1915 3 года назад
@@jasondarmasaputra7307 I'll provide a little pushback here. I definitely had a similar reaction at first, but consider what's also happening here: game designers cannot make games that require a player be able to function at 1/10th the speed of light - never mind 1200x's the speed of light! The game mechanics are designed to let us experience a simulation of being super-human but if you put the gameplay in a realistic setting, you could easily argue that for Link or Cloud to avoid laser beams (which probably would not politely draw lines in the dirt to give you a chance to avoid them) or dragon gods (who probably wouldn't politely wait for you to take your turn before ripping you to bits at ultra lightspeed) - they'd have to actually possess attributes sufficient to overcome those real-world threats!
@caesarroe1283
@caesarroe1283 3 года назад
@@jasondarmasaputra7307 Nah it was Ultra Instinc dragon 😉😉
@cloudnaeris7
@cloudnaeris7 3 года назад
When Link dodges the laser it's a predictive roll, not a reflexive roll. Big difference.
@mikeperez8
@mikeperez8 3 года назад
This ^
@MercerSin
@MercerSin 3 года назад
True, but speaking of the dodge mechanic, why didn’t link get the flurry effect? That’s (I like to think) his power in BOTW, all champs had one.
@matthewcox69
@matthewcox69 3 года назад
Same in the Naruto fight.
@midashitegamer5264
@midashitegamer5264 3 года назад
Bug difference? Reaction time and movement speed is the same, while it's not reflexive it's still the same speed, if you can predict light and dodge it, you're still moving faster than light in order to move out of it's way
@midashitegamer5264
@midashitegamer5264 3 года назад
@@matthewcox69 no, reflexive dodging and predictive dodging takes the same speed, based on time and distance it will always be the same speed, if you could predict and dodge light, you're doing it the same as a reflex, because you are still able to dodge it which requires you to be faster than it, only if time is increased or distance is increased can a predictive dodge be slower than a reflexive dodge, but we are talking the same exact time and distance here
@pkillerx
@pkillerx 2 года назад
Link stopping to break pots/vases mid-fight is such a hilarious break in his character. The look in his eyes as he dashes towards the first pot makes me lose it every time.
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 2 года назад
it's actually not a break in his character. Just about every boss fight he encounters has them and even if not, his most useful items come from them
@zacharie2334
@zacharie2334 2 года назад
@@nathanielbass771 And we hear a sound when he breaks them (probably the sound of gaining an item)
@TheSuperSmashBros01
@TheSuperSmashBros01 2 года назад
A great attention to detail honestly
@sombra-fy5oi
@sombra-fy5oi Год назад
That's the single most brutal Omnislash I've ever seen. Even Sephiroth wasn't cut in half
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
Personally, I think if they were going to go brutal with it, they should have gone all the way. Basically, have every slash cut a piece off Link (or have the cuts build up, and he just falls apart at the end.).
@sombra-fy5oi
@sombra-fy5oi Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 Yeah, but then him splitting the freaking triforce at the end wouldn't have really hit as hard
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@sombra-fy5oi Fair point. Though, technically speaking, the whole splitting the triforce thing never should have happened in the first place, since the triforce has never been used in such a manner before. But you are correct.
@sombra-fy5oi
@sombra-fy5oi Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 I'm no lore expert, i just see big shiny powerful thing get cleaved in half by angry guy with 50 swords
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@sombra-fy5oi Again, fair point.
@TheCayDawg
@TheCayDawg 3 года назад
Link lost cuz they didn't give him Z-Targeting
@theyux1
@theyux1 3 года назад
@ORLANDO JACK They allegedly dont allow outside help sometimes, and Z targeting was granted by the faries. Its why you could not z target ganadorf because he was to evil for the faeries.
@McSquidification
@McSquidification 3 года назад
@@theyux1 This was always my problem with the previous match (animation). They went out of their way to say no outside help, but they let him Z target the omnislash.
@Amaterasu-zl5yh
@Amaterasu-zl5yh 3 года назад
So cloud won
@aphato2770
@aphato2770 3 года назад
@@theyux1 I mean twilight princess link can z-target without a fairy. So can Botw Link. And Skyward sword link. And Windwaker link
@TheCayDawg
@TheCayDawg 3 года назад
@@theyux1 that was only in Ocarina of Time/Majoras Mask. In the rest of the 3D games targeting is just a gameplay function.
@AgentHooligan
@AgentHooligan 3 года назад
"Cloud and Zack die from bullets" Ok but Link dies to chickens...
@CosmicGoku529
@CosmicGoku529 3 года назад
Hold up there. Those chicken are way more deadly than a bullet. They are immortal bringers of death.
@richardlabrie515
@richardlabrie515 3 года назад
@@CosmicGoku529 Those chickens can even defeat Ganon!
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 3 года назад
As of Breath of the Wild, Cucoos are terrifying monsters when provoked in-universe, they're not ordinary chickens.
@goldenboy2740
@goldenboy2740 3 года назад
Don't worry though, each of those bullets are probably stronger then the supernova that hit Cloud (Deathbattle logic)
@Schale.kivotos
@Schale.kivotos 3 года назад
It's seems you not play the game huh That's chicken is frkin immortal and can beat ganon! Even guy like Cloud is no match for Mighty Chicken CUCCO!
@Zye1984
@Zye1984 3 года назад
I kinda wish you guys would stop equating dodging lasers as feats of speed. That's more of an anticipation in most cases. Or, automatically assuming a defeated enemy that can go super fast somehow means the fighter can too.
@sircatfaceesq578
@sircatfaceesq578 3 года назад
I see it as their best attempt to pull something from nothing. I still hate it, but can understand why they do it
@midashitegamer5264
@midashitegamer5264 3 года назад
@@sircatfaceesq578 well actually no it's because these are video games, we can't have inputs that fast or no one would get past the first area, these are superhuman characters, for instance we know through cutscenes that cloud can block and dodge bullets, we've also been him dodge much fast things, and have immense feats of strength, in the remake we get to be cloud in pvp combat as a player character and not just a party member showing it is actually happening real time just the mechanics of the game prevent it from being played in such a way, and that's because it's a turn based rpg, that's it's genre, so likelihood is the interpretation you were meant to each is that cloud beat the dragon in real time combat and therefore had to keep up
@midashitegamer5264
@midashitegamer5264 3 года назад
@@sircatfaceesq578 also we know from multiple ff games that dragons have extreme speed strata and have an affinity for wht magic that boosts said speed stats, it's unreasonable to think they are slow just because the mechanics are that of a turn based rpg
@midashitegamer5264
@midashitegamer5264 3 года назад
@@sircatfaceesq578 link has lifted thousands of tons but he hasn't survived a supernova, link is fast but light has achieved faster travel and reaction speeds on foot, it's undeniable if you've played both games
@ivoryraven3487
@ivoryraven3487 3 года назад
Yup its pretty dumb, or scaling people to other people through a common foe, or a "anime quarrel"
@ShadedTopaz1
@ShadedTopaz1 Год назад
That was ... EPIC! Thank you so much for producing this!
@ComicalRealm
@ComicalRealm 3 года назад
Fun fact: Cloud has the most player-controlled appearances of any character in the Final Fantasy series, and the second most appearances altogether, behind Gilgamesh.
@smellyuncle
@smellyuncle 3 года назад
At least Cloud is first protagonist to have the most player controlled appearances.
@lynxfresh5214
@lynxfresh5214 3 года назад
Gilgamesh is such a hilarious yet likeable character, I hope he appears in FFXVI.
@SuperSwordman1
@SuperSwordman1 3 года назад
Which makes me super depressed that Square keeps pushing this punk.
@banditbro25
@banditbro25 3 года назад
To be fair, Gilgamesh in FF universe is a reality bender so him apparently being in every universe makes sense
@smellyuncle
@smellyuncle 3 года назад
@@banditbro25 That’s fair I guess.
@StriderStryker
@StriderStryker 3 года назад
Link/Cloud: *clash swords against each other* Ganondorf/Sephiroth: *starts laughing at them*
@JustAPrinnyDood
@JustAPrinnyDood 3 года назад
Ganondorf: "I see this as an absolute win!"
@regretgaming2446
@regretgaming2446 3 года назад
Sephiroth ' aw man means I'm gonna have to deal with him now' Ganon 'sucks to be you.... mind if I take the triforce of courage?' Sephiroth *pulls sword* 'over my dead body' Boomstick 'its time for a dathbattlllllllllllllllle'
@Jason-he1mr
@Jason-he1mr 3 года назад
Ganondorf vs Sephiroth
@andrewpenny4676
@andrewpenny4676 3 года назад
@@Jason-he1mr Sorry he gonna have to take on dracula first.
@davidgumazon
@davidgumazon 3 года назад
Steve: Man, this Smash matchup is so good! **eats bread** Death Battle not Smash xD
@GamergaidenX
@GamergaidenX 2 года назад
This really hit on the fact that Link is a mischievous fairy child who just shows up, starts a fight, breaks pots, can just somehow duplicate himself. He's embodying Fae energy through this whole fight and I love it. even the transformation into Fierce Deity was like him taking the mask off and revealing his "true form" as some terrifying Fairy warrior. (despite that he puts a mask on to do this)
@seanpazdera6407
@seanpazdera6407 2 года назад
He's mischievous, but not evil. In Adult Link this manifests as little more than just lighthearted jokes every once in a while. Only Child Link shows anything immature. In either form he's meant to be something only the wicked fear anyway.
@gamerstheater1187
@gamerstheater1187 Год назад
he's not a fairy he's a human
@QTA777
@QTA777 Год назад
LINK CANT DIE!!!!!! CLOUD IS A LOSER GUYS HES NOT SPOSTA WIN
@stephenautopsy6246
@stephenautopsy6246 Год назад
Fae means goblin like creature not fairy the fairy you are thinking of is just a kind of fae
@lolrus5555
@lolrus5555 Год назад
@@QTA777 please shut up -_-
@stephen92
@stephen92 Год назад
So I just want to point out a few things that seem to have been left out of Link's armory: The Mirror Shield, capable of reflecting energy including all magic; the Pegasus boots and seeds which each significantly increase his speed; the Bunny Hood, also capable of increasing his speed; bomb arrows, not a significant threat to Cloud but still too effective for him to ignore; Cryonis pillars in the rain can even emerge out of mud and make excellent cover; Daruk's protection is an impenetrable barrier, as is Nayru's Love (I can see why those weren't included); and then there was no inclusion of the Hidden Skills like the shield attack that could've put Cloud off-balance every time he struck the shield. You know Link is good with that technique when he uses it to reflect lasers without the Mirror Shield
@seanpazdera6407
@seanpazdera6407 Год назад
Most of those don't matter for anything at all.
@stephen92
@stephen92 Год назад
@@seanpazdera6407 I think they matter a lot. The Mirror Shield makes Link effectively immune to magic and dangerous to even cast a spell on. I may be wrong, but I think the summon attacks are also magical which means these would also be reflected. Link is also able to exploit even a small opening with the flurry rush and a sucessful shield parry does exactly that. The movement speed buffs mean he'd be able to dodge more attacks rather than parry which means even more flurry rushes
@seanpazdera6407
@seanpazdera6407 Год назад
@@stephen92 A great deal of spells in Final Fantasy aren't like Twinrova. Some are even explosions that appear around you or cause your blood to congeal and stuff. SummonING is magical, but summonS aren't inherently. It would be better to just have Link use his own summons. You can't Flurry Rush straight out of a Shield Bash. Movement speed buffs don't affect reactions.
@stephen92
@stephen92 Год назад
@@seanpazdera6407 I know you can't flurry rush after a shield parry and that's not the point. The point is that it creates an opening for attacks. The movement speed buffs don't affect his ability to recognize a threat and decide to move, but they do affect the speed at which he can move once the threat is identified. His body can keep up a little better with his mind. What you say about ff magic, completely fair. I don't know the magic from that series nearly as well as others. However, it would certainly affect the fire, Ice, lightning and wind magic as well as likely poison magic. Like casting an attack spell on something with reflect, but it doesn't wear off
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@stephen92 Most of those magics you mentioned aren't projectiles. Lightning is a projectile, but it originates from above, which would not only be unnatural for Link to actually block, but even if he did, that would leave a massive opening for Cloud to take advantage of.
@MrBruh77
@MrBruh77 3 года назад
I just love how when Link was smashing pots, he used one as a weapon. At that point, I didn’t care who won I just loved the accuracy of that
@Sorenthaz
@Sorenthaz 3 года назад
First deathbattle: Sure Cloud is strong, but he has no way to keep up with Link's arsenal. Second deathbattle: Sure Link has a huge arsenal, but there's no way he can keep up with Cloud's speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
@iguanaboi3921
@iguanaboi3921 3 года назад
I'm noticing a trend among the rematches. The loser of the first match wins the rematch due to the inverse of what caused them to lose the first time. I.E Mario lost to Sonic because he couldn't counter his speed, but in the rematch, he beat Sonic because speed was his only advantage
@nicholasblessing4457
@nicholasblessing4457 3 года назад
@@iguanaboi3921 Wait they changed the outcome of the rematch for Mario vs. Sonic too? That was the only one I skipped because I assumed they were doing the same thing they did with Samus vs Boba?
@FLCLHarukoHaruhara
@FLCLHarukoHaruhara 3 года назад
Fukkin right? I'll stick to DBS1 Link vs Cloud
@youtubestuff683
@youtubestuff683 3 года назад
@@FLCLHarukoHaruhara I like both characters kinda equally. I feel that either one had the potential to win this fight so the fact that they both have a win is fine by me. But the Mario vdms Sonic rematch kinda sucked, because as far as I remember they didn't bring up the fact that Sonic can (and this is still canon in the comics I believe) run faster then time.
@FLCLHarukoHaruhara
@FLCLHarukoHaruhara 3 года назад
@@youtubestuff683 I'm just being a fanboy. Don't mind me. :P
@ariwl1
@ariwl1 3 года назад
Character descriptions. Link: Here are all the spells, tools, and abilities his many different incarnations have had over the years. Cloud: Here are all the reasons he needs therapy.
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 3 года назад
Pretty much
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
Sephiroth: Hello there! I want a barbeque. A chocobo barbeque.
@NoFocksGiven_
@NoFocksGiven_ 3 года назад
Cloud: as my therapist says. Stay where you belong. In my head.
@theadmirableadmiral7408
@theadmirableadmiral7408 3 года назад
@@NoFocksGiven_ I… will never stay in your head.
@classicsagat
@classicsagat 3 года назад
@@Silent_Fool Or Midgar Zolom BBQ? I mean he made it ready for shishkabobs lolol
@BTAL1ama
@BTAL1ama Год назад
Man Link has some serious hammer space, even compared to an FF character. Also Cloud catching the pot like a tennis ball on his sword was pretty great lol
@Beegrene
@Beegrene Год назад
I believe Nintendo Power said that he simply has really deep pockets. Or that may have been James Bond. I don't remember exactly.
@Articabyss64
@Articabyss64 3 года назад
Real reason Link lost was because he was fighting with his right hand
@pol024524
@pol024524 3 года назад
:O
@brownie8029
@brownie8029 3 года назад
Now I see why he won the first fight.
@oonkymppa5923
@oonkymppa5923 3 года назад
He was going easy because Cloud needed to have a chance
@Fine793meadow
@Fine793meadow 3 года назад
@@oonkymppa5923 No he did not,if he uses the dark god mask than it proves he is going all out
@oonkymppa5923
@oonkymppa5923 3 года назад
@@Fine793meadow ever tried using your non-dominant hand? 100x less effective
@firemasterluke
@firemasterluke 3 года назад
A nit-pick I have is how the fight starts. Link doesn't go around hunting people down. I think a better start would be a person in Midgar asking Cloud to stop the "Jar smashing menace."
@firemasterluke
@firemasterluke 3 года назад
@@bellattery lol thanks
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 3 года назад
Ohh, I like that much better!
@synchrofanatic510
@synchrofanatic510 3 года назад
There’s alot of weird choices for set pieces in this fight. Link hunting him down, the amount of time they focus on Cloud falling down the cliff and Cloud finding the Fusion Sword in the church when its supposed to be stored in his bike. I love that idea for an intro though.
@freetoplayking7362
@freetoplayking7362 3 года назад
Person: I drove Link away. My god, he was a hero. Link truly was an asset to this world. He was... [Link starts smashing Aerith's pottery] Cloud: ... a criminal! That's who he is! A vandal! He broke her pots! I want that man dead!
@firemasterluke
@firemasterluke 3 года назад
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 😁
@baval5
@baval5 3 года назад
"as you can see Link can dodge this laser at the moment its fired" >Link begins dodging the laser a full 12 youtube frames and nearly a full second before it begins firing
@sauce987654321
@sauce987654321 3 года назад
That's what power wank looks like.
@Gnostic88
@Gnostic88 3 года назад
@@sauce987654321 For real. I remember their original fight with Link and Cloud. It was BS. glad this one made more sense.
@ransac16
@ransac16 3 года назад
If they wanted a better visual for reacting to/evading lasers they should have just used Link fighting Guardians.
@WwZa7
@WwZa7 3 года назад
I think they just wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, push his abilities to the limit, because honestly, he was uncomparable to Cloud, that can survive a dimension breaking supernova.
@SD-uw7zu
@SD-uw7zu 3 года назад
@@Gnostic88 exactly. Cloud got downplayed last time. And this is the first death battle rematch that wasn’t bad or controversial
@yachi2274
@yachi2274 11 месяцев назад
Cloud: Good game Link: Good game *They handshaked*
@dabluepittoo-aqua4213
@dabluepittoo-aqua4213 3 года назад
Cloud: "Finally...I beat the guy who beat me." Mario: "Not bad kid."
@JugularJohn
@JugularJohn 3 года назад
Mario: So who’d you beat? Cloud: Link Mario: ….. damnit he was a good friend..
@shanewalters2565
@shanewalters2565 3 года назад
Oh, I get it, because Mario had a rematch with Sonic for the 100th episode, and now we got a rematch between Link and Cloud, all we need now is a rematch between Luigi and Tails
@bruhm0ment6000
@bruhm0ment6000 3 года назад
You know the end is coming for the antagonist of FF7 since cloud won. Unless it's a superman situation where he wins twice but that's like 0 percent chance of happening.
@red5158077
@red5158077 3 года назад
@@shanewalters2565 No
@theonewhodrums_
@theonewhodrums_ 3 года назад
Why have a rematch between these two? I find it odd
@darthvader473
@darthvader473 3 года назад
Fun Fact: You can do this in Smash Ultimate.
@jaybomb5638
@jaybomb5638 2 года назад
That’s what I’m doing right now
@jackel07-nerfgamingandmore95
@jackel07-nerfgamingandmore95 2 года назад
Huh... username checks out
@letusdebatenow
@letusdebatenow 2 года назад
Fun fact: many of these moves cannot be replicated in smash ultimate
@Koch2289
@Koch2289 2 года назад
yes
@callmezeldaonemoartime
@callmezeldaonemoartime 2 года назад
And Sm4sh
@prodiga7
@prodiga7 3 года назад
The bit with link breaking pots and cloud trying to save them is priceless
@TheDisplacerBeast
@TheDisplacerBeast 3 года назад
Much like the pots were. Thats why cloud tried to protect them.
@sirrealgaming6913
@sirrealgaming6913 3 года назад
much like the pots themselves
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
Cloud got some Wallace Wisdom.
@ikonyk4370
@ikonyk4370 3 года назад
Reminds me of Jackie chan
@reaganhernandez6041
@reaganhernandez6041 3 года назад
13:05 Cloud Strife: "Excuse Me?!"
@SeaOfPixels
@SeaOfPixels Год назад
This death battle is so strange. There are several times where we have Link use his powers in the least effective way possible just so the fight continues. Ie: uses ancient arrows but shoots the bike instead of Cloud, uses stasis but just stands there instead of actually doing something during the time freeze, and then he uses the invisibility cloak to do nothing? These are the kinds of things I expect to see from the death battle combatant that ends up winning, to show how many powers they have over their opponent and how many ways they could win, but he lost in the end?
@ICTON123
@ICTON123 Год назад
The animation is just for entertainment, it's not a simulation. If it was trying to be accurate, then Cloud would realistically just end Link in an instant. Anyway, no, Link was actually using them as best he could. He baited Cloud using Magnesis to draw him near the bike and then used it on the bike to ensure that Cloud couldn't see or dodge the arrow (we see that Cloud is incredibly near the bike and gets hit by the Ancient Arrow's explosion), but Cloud toughed it out. He very clearly did not just stand there during Stasis, Cloud used his own time stop on Link. And he uses the invisibility cloak to escape Cloud's attack and get as far as he can, but as they already showed, he wouldn't be able to attack like that cause he's intangible, and he can't stay cloaked cause the cloak drains mana.
@superspell1
@superspell1 9 месяцев назад
@@ICTON123 In the games link actually can attack while under that cloak, and he should have 3 days of limitless magic thanks to the power of milk.
@PedroCampos-r1j
@PedroCampos-r1j День назад
Ltbimncuia.
@Nightmare77110
@Nightmare77110 3 года назад
Pots: *exist* Link: “and I took it personally”
@AmateurAnimations65
@AmateurAnimations65 3 года назад
Link: *Breaks pots* Cloud: And I took that personally
@PedroCampos-r1j
@PedroCampos-r1j День назад
Sinslimnio.
@stealthycal5029
@stealthycal5029 3 года назад
Ah, the 8 year rematch. Cloud took it personally
@travismurtland3257
@travismurtland3257 3 года назад
Yeah link wins the first one, gets even stronger while cloud chills at one consistent power level, and then loses after getting stronger. Something is inconsistent lol
@azureblizzard721
@azureblizzard721 3 года назад
@@travismurtland3257 That inconsistency is the original episode being wrong lol.
@TheYugikuza
@TheYugikuza 3 года назад
@@travismurtland3257 Its this series they suck at actually looking at the fact with every reincarnation for Link he should be way stronger then Cloud
@ath477
@ath477 3 года назад
Bro this the second rematch after sonic vs mario
@blueblaze8105
@blueblaze8105 3 года назад
@@TheYugikuza not really the problem it that that items that link uses are scattered around the ages so having all of them at once is unlikely. And in the first one they didn't give Cloud surviving the supernova,limited Cloud to only fire and lightning materia when he can use all of them. And for as much as people like to point Naryu's love with ganondorf can still hurt link. Magic armor which wouldn't protect against the buster or fusion swords or Materia given how much more potent then most magic in Zelda. But don't consider Clouds summons. And giving Majora universe scaling which is hypothetical at best even so link didn't survive it. But yes the consistency is horrible when it comes to this series sometimes.
@seanpazdera6407
@seanpazdera6407 2 года назад
I would like to point out that in the lore, BotW Link didn't just get timed abilities from the Champions' spirits, he got their abilities themselves transferred to him. For example he should be able to heal whoever he wants, create air as he pleases, and spam Daruk's Protection like the people who were born with those powers.
@Bleeperblopper497
@Bleeperblopper497 2 года назад
I don't think that matters much when the summon, Knights of the Round, ignores defenses along with Cloud having Protective Boots that make him Immune to Slow and Stop, therefore Cloud flat out wins in the Time Stopping department and people that say Link somehow resists Time Stopping are reaching too much. The Q&A Blogspot posted by the Research Team and Ultraguy, after this fight came out, went into FULL detail on why Cloud definitely wins, not to mention compositing Link in general is BS and Non-Canon, has never been shown having all of his weapons and abilities at once in the games and the fact that the Hero of Time was clearly a separate being from Twilight Princess Link and had to actually teach the other person their techniques instead of remembering their past lives where even if you do composite, it only seems fair to let Cloud have all of his Materia which can actually counter all of Links Gear along with Clouds Ribbon, Boots, Summons and Spells, its just that most people think that Links gear is more memorable and don't pay much attention to all the stuff Cloud has and you can even make a good argument that Cloud actually CAN use any Materia as explained in the Q&A. They even debunked Universal Link in that one, too. I was even able to change Smash Brackets mind on the Verdict too by pointing them towards that Q&A when they were sure Link had this with the Chateau Romani and Magic Cape, but again, Knights of the Round and a few other counters Cloud had that could make him attack intangible beings.
@iTristendo
@iTristendo Год назад
@@Joker3180Z It is okay-watch the first version of this Death Battle.
@iTristendo
@iTristendo Год назад
@@Joker3180Z true. The way they worded the ending (and the fact that they each have won against each other) proves to me that the fight can go either way.
@iTristendo
@iTristendo Год назад
@@Joker3180Z I don't base the actual details of the fight as things that matter-it's more of the outcome. The fight is really just there to entertain us and the logistics of every detail doesn't matter as much. I actually agree with you and think that shouldn't be possible but that wasn't the point of the fight.
@chadikhr7258
@chadikhr7258 Год назад
@@Joker3180Z lmfao bruh bro really watched this vid and said ''i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that'' link simps lmao as for cloud simps they surley are eating good tonight
@_Dedleef
@_Dedleef Год назад
Y’all kinda forgot links armour stats, like the barbarian armour greatly increases links strength, or the thunder helm which makes him completely invulnerable to lighting, and how the champions tunic has insane durability
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
Dude, Cloud is swinging hard enough to deal lethal damage to a being that casually tanked a supernova. Its not that they forgot Link's armor stats, its that they just don't matter in the least.
@ronandread5141
@ronandread5141 Год назад
They forget a lot of things here, link has resisted explosions, slashes, from powerful beings that make cloud strife look like some wannabe anime character. Y'all don't see the potential link has because you stick with sheer power over skill . Link would still win .
@ronandread5141
@ronandread5141 Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 there are God's and powerful strikes in Zelda that could wreck cloud in seconds . Link has faced far worse than cloud, he's taken damage from a literal God more specifically demise . he's also taken damage from a moon is that super nova enough for you ?
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@ronandread5141 Except there is nothing in Legend of Zelda that comes even remotely close to Cloud's level of power. The thing is, in a semi close fight, where the difference is only moderate, skill, planning and strategy absolutely make a difference. However, it doesn't matter how much an ant plans, it will never be able to take down a tank. Furthermore, you are completely ignoring the fact that Cloud is also a massively skilled swordsman, literally going toe to toe with the guy who makes the best swordsmen in the world look like amateurs. You can't actually quantify skill, but there is no reasonable argument that puts Link's level of skill any significant amount greater than Cloud's (its actually easier to argue that Cloud is the more skilled swordsman). I legit don't understand how you think Link can win, when Cloud quite literally can will Link to die, and he would die. Materia does that, and Link has no defense against it. Again, nothing in LOZ could stand of to Cloud. Like, you mentioned gods. So what? "god" is a title, it doesn't actually mean anything, and the "gods" in LOZ, have never performed any attack potency feats that would even register on Cloud's radar. This includes Demis, who's greatest feat is calling lighting (which would heal Cloud), and his greatest statement/implied feat, is being a threat to the world. I can't help but feel like you don't know what a supernova is, otherwise you wouldn't have said something as ridiculous as "he's also taken damage from a moon is that super nova enough for you?" A supernova is more powerful than a moon busting attack, by multiple magnitudes. The difference between high end moon level, and minimum solar system level, is a difference of 1 quadrillion times.
@ronandread5141
@ronandread5141 Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 no dude link would still win , it's not even about power if anything link is like the Batman for Nintendo he doesn't overpower his opponents he figures out their weaknesses. I feel like you're just crazy about final fantasy because of its stupidly overpowered characters.
@deep-sleep4473
@deep-sleep4473 3 года назад
Cloud: Cruising on his Motorcycle Link: ...And I took that personally
@SirMonty_
@SirMonty_ 3 года назад
I mean they both should've ridden motorcycles and have riding duel
@nav3346
@nav3346 3 года назад
And then Yusei shows up and sets 1 card face down
@SirMonty_
@SirMonty_ 3 года назад
@@nav3346 yeah also bruno aka ANTINOMY
@tquatMassEffect
@tquatMassEffect 3 года назад
He probably just thought they were in a Mario cart level
@creamncheese7761
@creamncheese7761 3 года назад
I actually wonder if that was the inspiration
@blackshadow7354
@blackshadow7354 3 года назад
14:55 people were complaining about mipha's grace, how it wasn't used, but you can see mipha's magic and her voice here, link died but mipha saved him
@tristanbowles7258
@tristanbowles7258 3 года назад
Something I didn’t realize till the second watch. Very nice touch
@sleepierhollow5892
@sleepierhollow5892 3 года назад
Kind of sucks man there are so many more things he could have used but didn't put any of them what about urbosa Fury daruk's protection or many other things like come on I don't want to sound salty or anyting but like they didn't use those things
@edwardrealgames8906
@edwardrealgames8906 3 года назад
@@sleepierhollow5892 they explain why they don’t use those items. It comes down to I forgot what they said but yeah
@palamecianrider7385
@palamecianrider7385 3 года назад
@@sleepierhollow5892 its their explanation that when they put barriers or protection to both fighters, both also have ways to dispel them. Similar to the time stop conundrum.
@justarandomguy54
@justarandomguy54 3 года назад
@@palamecianrider7385 I dunno, Zelda magic is different from FF7 magic. I’m not 100% sure dispel would work on Nayru’s love. And keep in mind that the magic armor, at least in TP, doesn’t make Link invincible, it just causes him to lose rupees instead of health. Until he runs out… I’d like to see a version of this where they both bring their s-game. No holds barred, all the research, all their gear, nothing held back. Cause one time Cloud was neutered, now Link was neutered, not to Cloud’s extent, but he was. I don’t care if it’s an hour long special; let’s put it to rest. At least until Link gets some new toys next year.
@Fubukio
@Fubukio 3 года назад
Cloud won because he had something to protect... In this case, Cloud protected pots from LINK THE POT DESTROYER!
@Angelalex242
@Angelalex242 3 года назад
Link destroyed pots /in Aerith's Church./ Don't mess with Aerith's stuff.
@lynxfresh5214
@lynxfresh5214 3 года назад
Without context it sounds like Link is a stoner hunter...
@thecursed_1lordofcats738
@thecursed_1lordofcats738 3 года назад
He probably is.
@phatdookie4207
@phatdookie4207 3 года назад
I destroy "pot" too.
@KenDaKingArrives
@KenDaKingArrives 3 года назад
@Joseph Williams His dead love that he loved more than he did Tifa, to be exact.
@TheBigTopaz
@TheBigTopaz Год назад
Not a fan of how Mipha’s Grace was the only Champion ability that Link could use in this battle, Daruk’s Protection easily could’ve Link the edge of used sparingly, also Link’s Bullet Time ability was completely ignored, which is very weird considering the first time he shoots and arrow at Cloud is when he’s in the air, if Bullet Time was considered then Link could end the battle quickly
@jaxsonevans7796
@jaxsonevans7796 Год назад
That's if Cloud doesn't even use his abilities or powers at all. Like did you even consider Cloud would even let all this happen?
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
The issue is, though said abilities were not included in the fight, they were taken into consideration. Its just that they didn't have the time or budget to include everything from both characters. The fact of the matter is, none of Link's arsenal makes any real difference. Daruk's protection isn't going to do much. Being able to block 3 attacks isn't going to change anything, when his opponent is massively stronger and faster than Link. Not to mention, Cloud literally has the ability to turn off barrier, like Daruk's, on a whim (Turning off magical effects like that is literally the purpose of the magic, dispel.). As far as bullet time, when you consider how much faster Cloud is than Link, even when Link has bullet time active, Cloud would still be moving faster than Link could comprehend. Ignoring that point, it still wouldn't have ended the fight for 2 major reasons. Reason 1, in BOTW, Ancient arrows don't do the instant death effect on more powerful enemies, such as bosses, and Cloud EASILY outpowers every boss in LOZ combined. Reason 2, even if we ignore reason 1, and assume the instant death would work on Cloud, it still doesn't matter, because Cloud literally has immunity to instant death effects. Point being, best case scenario for Link, Ancient arrows would only do damage to Cloud, and considering the power difference between the two, that damage would be negligible.
@TheBigTopaz
@TheBigTopaz Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 the Ancient Arrows confine all goes into oblivion in lore, in game is a different story and since they are using in story details and not in game details, Ancient Arrows always confine the Target into oblivion
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@TheBigTopaz Why didn't he just use the arrows on Ganon then? Would it not have been much easier to "confine him into oblivion" than fighting him as he did? In lore, there are limitations to it, otherwise the story would be trivialized. Also, it makes little difference. Cloud could still just use exit materia (which is dimensional hopping materia) to escape "oblivion" whatever that may mean.
@johnpett1955
@johnpett1955 Год назад
Imagine bullet time+ silver arrows. That would be crazy.
@thespicyelixr6021
@thespicyelixr6021 3 года назад
"Looks great in a dress" Cloud: Nailed it, I know. Thank you. Moving on.
@justarandomguy54
@justarandomguy54 3 года назад
That was a great line.
@thespicyelixr6021
@thespicyelixr6021 3 года назад
@@justarandomguy54 Nailed it, I know moving on.
@jonathanflanagan1504
@jonathanflanagan1504 3 года назад
You forgot the thank you. EDIT: Nice.
@thespicyelixr6021
@thespicyelixr6021 3 года назад
@@jonathanflanagan1504 Like I give a crap
@LEAF265
@LEAF265 3 года назад
I get the reference!!!
@JustAPrinnyDood
@JustAPrinnyDood 3 года назад
I love how all the different Link's seemed to have unique personalities
@AbyssalBlue24
@AbyssalBlue24 3 года назад
@Gabriel Salas even canonically they do have différents personalities, just look at ww waker and ss link
@tempest2789
@tempest2789 3 года назад
I mean, they are different people
@rodjjt7742
@rodjjt7742 3 года назад
I love how Link died
@justarandomguy54
@justarandomguy54 3 года назад
@@rodjjt7742 This outcome was bull. It honestly seems like they weakened Link by removing key abilities to hand Cloud the win. I demand a rerematch.
@justarandomguy54
@justarandomguy54 3 года назад
@@rodjjt7742 Great fight, though. And I loved the pottery joke.
@MrLachek
@MrLachek 3 года назад
Link: Rolls like normal person. DB: He is moving 1/10 light speed!
@lightningandodinify
@lightningandodinify 3 года назад
The speed reasoning in death battles are generally abysmal and ridiculous. The same goes for their inferences on physical strength from feats that seem extreme but are clearly overthought compared to what the creators intended.
@Vexiratus
@Vexiratus 3 года назад
@@lightningandodinify Yep. If a character gets hit by a trillion ton asteroid accelerting super slowly, they'll say he's hit with 1000 quadrillon tons of tnt
@ItachiYGO
@ItachiYGO 3 года назад
generally in most VS communities creator intent isn't really taken into account. you just analyze the feats in a void if creator intent was taken into account, characters like Saitama would be literally invincible. since the whole point of the character is to never lose.
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache 3 года назад
@@ItachiYGO I wish some people would considered the creator intent, when it comes to VS debates, but that's just me.
@YAYCONFORMITY
@YAYCONFORMITY 3 года назад
His roll also probably has the force of 9 gagillion tons of tnt.
@dailyplanetjk8711
@dailyplanetjk8711 Год назад
FLURRY RUSH??????????????????? HELLO?????????
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
Are you upset that they didn't include it in the animation? I'll spoil it for you how it would look. Link would go into his bullet time for Flurry Rush, and Cloud would casually counter every attack anyway, because he is just that much faster than Link.
@dailyplanetjk8711
@dailyplanetjk8711 Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 ye ik cloud slaps him but still woulda liked to see it how it would play out
@dailyplanetjk8711
@dailyplanetjk8711 Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 i also would like to point out that since we havent really seen the extent of Fierce Deitys power, so there would be some false power scaling there (true for all characters that we dont know the true extent of what their powers are). Also, the only champion ability he used was Miphas Grace, which I thought was weird. It would also be pretty cool to see a rematch with his new Zonai hand. Sick fight tho i love Death Battle
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@dailyplanetjk8711 The argument about not seeing the extent of Fierce Deity's power is only relevant in a close match up. The fact is, Fierce Deity's best feat, if we are being generous, is cutting the moon in half. Saying that he might be upwards of solar system level (which he would have to be in order to even start being in the conversation with Cloud.), is a straight up appeal to probability fallacy (VS community better knows it as a no limits fallacy, but I personally think that name is misleading, as there are characters with no limits, that the fallacy still applies to.). It makes sense that Mipha's is the only champion ability we see. Its the only one that actually matters. Revali's just gives Link the high ground for a short time, but Cloud would literally be able to jump to catch up to Link, as well as he has plenty of magical range options. Urbosa's would actually be detrimental to Link, as Cloud has immunity to paralysis, as well as lightning magic literally heals him. Daruk's is the only other one that might be helpful, but blocking 3 attacks is only mildly helpful, as well as Cloud can literally just shut it off with dispel (which, I'm not gonna lie, that would have been fun to see.). Personally, I would rather see Link in a fight that is a closer match. It would be more interesting (at least for me), to question who is going to win, as compared to putting him against Cloud, where there really isn't a question.
@dailyplanetjk8711
@dailyplanetjk8711 Год назад
@@ikeillue8385 lol wtf whyd you type a whole dang valedictorian speech💀 you seem to be particularly biased towards Cloud. The matchup is closer than whatever you think.
@HydetheMask23
@HydetheMask23 3 года назад
Link vs Cloud (2021) in a nutshell: Cloud: Ready for a rematch. Link: HYAAA!!!
@ppikach64
@ppikach64 3 года назад
Nice reference xD
@chriskline3763
@chriskline3763 3 года назад
I was going to say didnt they already do this and Cloud got his ass beat.
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 3 года назад
@@chriskline3763 yep he did
@sykune
@sykune 3 года назад
@@DIEFORME173 by a composite link. That match should not be counted as OOT link does not have access to the Pegasus boots. As for cloud they went for iconic rather then End game. Plus link used a hookshot to grab a sword and stopped time while doing it. I love link but let's make it a fair fight. However Botw of the wild link can stand toe to toe with cloud due to his physical feats with stasis.
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 3 года назад
@@sykune yeah
@loganbly1071
@loganbly1071 3 года назад
So whens Duke Nukem, the true father to Boomstick making his grand entrance to death battle?
@MyAramil
@MyAramil 3 года назад
He would need to face off against Serious Sam.
@troodontalon5990
@troodontalon5990 3 года назад
Never. ...that would require Boomstick's father coming back.
@edawg_1002
@edawg_1002 3 года назад
I still think that it's Sarge
@circumventboredom9463
@circumventboredom9463 3 года назад
Duke Nukem vs Serious Sam would be hype. Duke Nukem's voice actor would totally agree to voice the role. In the fight, they could even make a reference to all the ridiculous and funny Duke Nukem voice-over memes.
@Khaos_Bringer
@Khaos_Bringer 3 года назад
It's been hinted that sarge from rvb is boomsticks dad.
@SirUmbreon345
@SirUmbreon345 2 года назад
Me in 2015, A Final Fantasy Fan: oh no! Cloud lost! Me in 2021, a Legends of zelda fan: ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?
@old-emerald-jr-gamer
@old-emerald-jr-gamer 2 года назад
Indeed
@danielwilliams3925
@danielwilliams3925 2 года назад
Agreed
@Phlex6250
@Phlex6250 2 года назад
Lol
@youlooksusd6429
@youlooksusd6429 2 года назад
It’s exact opposite for me lol
@christiancintron1222
@christiancintron1222 2 года назад
Lmfao
@NoBody-tk3yd
@NoBody-tk3yd 5 месяцев назад
It's ironic that in the original Cloud vs Link DB, the Link fanboys couldn't wait to make toxic posts provoking FF fans. Now the same fanboys are here with the same toxicity because Link lost. Why can't you just enjoy the amazing video that was created and keep your BS to yourself?
@Aeroblast49
@Aeroblast49 2 месяца назад
👏🏻👏🏻
@anubis3669
@anubis3669 3 года назад
Link lost bc he wasn’t left handed like in Ocarina of Time
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
Link has always been left handed. Only Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild Links are right handed.
@SpikeTheWolf
@SpikeTheWolf 3 года назад
@@Silent_Fool how come??
@quickman2663
@quickman2663 3 года назад
@@SpikeTheWolf Skyward Sword because it's better for Wii players.
@joejones8454
@joejones8454 3 года назад
Cloud deserves it
@lordselitsnoraa3451
@lordselitsnoraa3451 3 года назад
I'm not sure that really matters
@minombreesreal7296
@minombreesreal7296 3 года назад
Ganondorf: *Uses te Triforce (a divine and holy power) to protect him self from the divine nucke of Dracula and dies any way. * Link: "Let me show you how its done" Link: * does the same and dies* Ganondorf: You were sayi- Link: SHUT UP
@jigokuokami6586
@jigokuokami6586 2 года назад
It's triforce
@lightningandodinify
@lightningandodinify 2 года назад
Makes less sense in this case. It's just for symbolism here to show off Cloud's strength.
@TheAustin1
@TheAustin1 2 года назад
Zelda: bruh both of you are idiots wait until I show up and win
@minombreesreal7296
@minombreesreal7296 2 года назад
@@TheAustin1 peach in he'r last match: yea sure haha
@thedarkoracle4807
@thedarkoracle4807 2 года назад
Anyone else wish there was a fight between the dark beast Ganon and fierce deity Link?
@VGHistory1
@VGHistory1 2 года назад
Final Breath is one of the best DB themes that's been produced by Brandon. So glad he's been able to provide bangers for DB for years now.
@brandonbrisson4455
@brandonbrisson4455 Год назад
Your welcome
@NeverWokeNotASoiBoy
@NeverWokeNotASoiBoy Год назад
This was epic, my two favourite protagonists and I'm happy with the analysis, great video.
@pepperhead7589
@pepperhead7589 3 года назад
Plot twist: They are fighting because they argued who crossdressed better
@epsyblue7714
@epsyblue7714 3 года назад
Gee thanks. Now I want to see them fighting in drag.
@davidashton3671
@davidashton3671 3 года назад
Personally Link in drag looks much better.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
@TheTrueHolyDarkness 3 года назад
This.
@darkfox1861
@darkfox1861 3 года назад
@@davidashton3671 yep
@KayLDay
@KayLDay 3 года назад
Omg yes
@KRIOSthe5th
@KRIOSthe5th 3 года назад
This has to be the most visually stunning battle for me. Link catching the lightning, Cloud rising in the fire, Fierce Diety rising from the rubble, Cloud in the moon, and the final 9999 were all poster worthy. It was beautiful
@JamisonWormley
@JamisonWormley 3 года назад
this fight was amazing 10/10
@pantherman691
@pantherman691 3 года назад
That was humiliating
@theggamer2824
@theggamer2824 3 года назад
Technically His red Ring would reduce that damage to around 2500 damage
@weskintime4177
@weskintime4177 3 года назад
@@theggamer2824 still more than enough.
@wind64a39
@wind64a39 3 года назад
​@@theggamer2824 9999 is the damage cap, but it's possible to get the base force behind it to become far greater. In that case, the reduced damage will still hit 9999.
@Ernireg3
@Ernireg3 3 года назад
Everyone keeps saying Link was breaking Aerith's" pots but if you take a closer look, those pots have the Gerudo symbol on them.
@OidBuddy
@OidBuddy 3 года назад
Even if they do have the Gerudo symbol. The pots were probably meant to be Aerith"s. She probably bought them on amaxon or ebay.
@geminuri
@geminuri 3 года назад
she traded flowers for them. duh.
@negr0mancer
@negr0mancer 3 года назад
maybe aerith was a loz fan
@jamesmerkel1932
@jamesmerkel1932 3 года назад
Or perhaps tifa, being the thoughtful one, bought them afterward to grow flowers in Aeriths memory. If they weren't tied to aerith in some way Cloud wouldn't have cared to keep link from breaking them lol
@hyperuser5473
@hyperuser5473 3 года назад
Cloud is a tifa fan
@socialaccount0000
@socialaccount0000 Год назад
A year later and while I still think Cloud could beat normal Link, there is NO SHOT he beats the Fierce Deity. You can scale Fierce Deity far above Majora, the same Majora who can be scaled to Dimensional/Universal (as Termina is a separate dimension from Hyrule, think of it like a pocket dimension, similar to the one Sephiroth creates for his Supernova attack). This Majora is also able to move in-between dimensions (the "inside" of the moon) that have no time (time does not progress "inside" the moon) ergo he should also have immeasurable speed to be able to move without time, or at the very least, can't be frozen by time stop (also in the Majoras Mask manga, it is specifically described as a "world" within Majora, so no it is not actually the moon). This Majora obliterates the Hero of Time if he is not stopped, there is 0 chance for Link to survive the destruction of this dimension besides rewinding time. This is the same Link who possesses 1/3rd of the Triforce, an artifact capable of creating a Universe, so it's not too much of a stretch that Link could have the attack potency of 1/3rd universal (or multi galaxy. I'm not saying he can destroy multiple galaxies, only that he has the strength to harm those that could) and this is also a Link post OoT, so he should scale above any feats performed in that game including defeating Ganon fully powered by the well, Triforce of power which just like Courage is another third of the triforce, the object that created the universe. Even if you don't believe that scaling, the triforce of power *alone* was enough to create Hyrule/Earth and was able to save Ganon from what would've been a fatal blow. Tl;dr OoT Link alone scales above Ganon, who scales to planetary at lowball and 1/3rd universal (multi galaxy) at highest. Said Majora is able to one-shot this Link if his plan is not stopped. In the games, The Fierce Deity takes very little damage from any of Majora's full strength (in the manga, he doesn't take *any* damage, able to completely tank a direct energy blast), this is again the same Majora who is able to create and/or manipulate entire Dimensions as well as destroy said Dimension at full power. Fierce Deity *bullies* Majora. In conclusion, while I'm not saying TFD would one-shot Cloud or anything, I highly doubt Cloud could defeat TFD, especially if we go by Deathbattle rules and use a comp-link, who should have all his other items, equipment, feats etc. So, in theory, you could say give TFD the Sheikha Slate, the Goron Bracelets, Mipha's grace etc. At that point, Cloud has no shot.
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
You are wanking LOZ power scaling a lot here. You have to be EXTREMELY generous to scale Majora to even planet level. More accurately he is powerful enough to pull a mountain sized moon out of orbit. Moving in-between dimensions is a hack, not any kind of attack potency scale. And, unless he is moving while he is frozen in time, your "immeasurable speed" thing is inaccurate, as they are still functioning within their own time. The Triforce is not capable of creating a universe. It is what remained in the place that the goddesses left Hyrule from. Furthermore, even if that wasn't the case, creation is not the same as attack potency. The Triforce's attack potency is really not all that impressive. The best its ever been shown was dropping a building on an enemy, and even that could be argued that it was just happenstance that it actually killed the enemy in question, since it was just returning the building to its original location. OOT Link is no where near planet level. At the end of OOT, Link and Zelda have to flee Hyrule castle before it collapses on them, otherwise they die. They aren't even large building level. Again, the Triforce "feats" aren't actually attack potency feats. Fierce Deity absolutely is able to bully Majora. But Majora is not nearly as powerful as you are making him out to be. Again, creation and destruction are not the same, so him being able to create a dimension is completely irrelevant. But lets pretend they are for a second that it is the same. Then the weakest summons in Final Fantasy 7 are also casual universal, as they all canonically create their own separate dimensions to pull enemies into, to avoid collateral damage. I don't think I need to explain how much higher than Chocobo Mog Cloud scales. Not only would Cloud have a shot, he would pretty casually overpower FD. FD's best attack potency feat, which isn't even canon btw, is cutting a tiny moon in half. Cloud is dealing lethal damage to a being who shrugs off a supernova with out flinching. Even if you include a composite Link, giving him all of his equipment from all games, most is irrelevant compared to Cloud's shear power, and the rest Cloud has straight up counters for. So, Link needs a composite build to even start being in the discussion, but still gets beaten down by Cloud 99 out of 100 times.
@Alpha-db4jo
@Alpha-db4jo Год назад
This isn’t even bringing Manga Link into this. Whom Solos the entire FF Cast with FD Link.
@OnboardWithChuck
@OnboardWithChuck Год назад
@@Alpha-db4jo Well the Manga's are little more than Nintendo Endorsed fan fictiction
@Alpha-db4jo
@Alpha-db4jo Год назад
@@OnboardWithChuck It’s considered Canon though. Nintendo confirmed it to be.
@chickenquesadilla8139
@chickenquesadilla8139 Год назад
@@Alpha-db4jo well, I mean, if someone wrote my game's character to completely annihilate another game franchise's characters I'd happily call it canon too lol. If Square confirmed it as well it'd be canon.
@ch1ppy755
@ch1ppy755 3 года назад
There was no way Cloud could have won if he didn’t save the pot, who repaid him with OP powers.
@TheShadowDragon777
@TheShadowDragon777 3 года назад
omg. you rite. All the spirits of previous pots granted cloud the power of pot to smite link for his sins.
@synical_gaming3863
@synical_gaming3863 3 года назад
@@TheShadowDragon777 lmao!
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 3 года назад
@@TheShadowDragon777 I mean that's basically the design standpoint from Guardians.
@kgmotte2363
@kgmotte2363 3 года назад
Are you suggesting that Cloud Got the Enemy Skill from Tonberries for "Everybody's Grudge" but he Used it specifically for Pots?!!?! That's Diabolical against Link! Like Bringing armor of Pure Kryptonite and a Minigun with infinite Krytponite Ammo Against Superman! How did he KNOW!?!!?
@dannyyoroi1955
@dannyyoroi1955 3 года назад
Cloud strife *the pottery savior*
@Shape4995
@Shape4995 3 года назад
One thing I hate about death battle is the way they do speed feats. They always take little quirks of animation or one off dumb un thought out remarks and act like they’re consistent abilities. I mean the so called “laser” Link dodges is not moving the speed of light, assuming hyrule physics even work the same as ours, and It sure as hell doesn’t seem like link is moving 1/10 the speed of light in the dodge animation. Compare his speed to an in game arrow and we’ll probably get a thousand paradoxes with arrows all moving 1/20 the speed of light or some nonsense. I feel like there is a certain amount we can’t take literally with stuff like this. (Edit also I don’t even think it’d be possible to dodge a laser after it was fired, since you’d have to know it was coming, which relies on sight, and lasers move just as fast as any light which could reach your eye, unless link has magic clairvoyance or something)
@mateokjitagonzalez4773
@mateokjitagonzalez4773 3 года назад
True!
@Tkokat
@Tkokat 3 года назад
I have to agree on this one
@lilgoop
@lilgoop 3 года назад
That and they correlate travel speed as fight speed which I firmly believe needs to be in it's own division just as reaction speed is. Just because Bahamut flew ftl doesn't mean he fights ftl
@cameronbowers9347
@cameronbowers9347 3 года назад
I do agree with you but......in the first cloud vs link......they ignored so many feats for cloud it got ridiculous so I'm just glad they're improving as they do it. Keep commenting kindly like ylu are and I'm sure they'll take notice of it.
@CyrusKnight7
@CyrusKnight7 3 года назад
I feel to properly explain the laser would be more like a light saber or something. The time it takes for the laser to connect with the ground is light speed. The time it takes to move the laser to attack link however is not light speed. It's the speed or whatever a mechanical eye ball can move.
@haden636
@haden636 3 года назад
I love how they added links addiction to Pottery smashing
@vupow4449
@vupow4449 Год назад
14:48 Link releases a beam from his sword like in smash ultimate due to not taking any damage yet is an amazing detail
@zauztheblacksmith
@zauztheblacksmith Год назад
I think that's meant to be a Lightning Strike from Skyward Sword, since an F-Smash beam in Smash Bros isn't anywhere near that powerful.
@sabin97
@sabin97 11 месяцев назад
he has had that ability since the legend of zelda. decades ago. do you remember a console called the "nintendo entertainment system"(also known as the famicom)? since those days he's had that skill.
@RealCFZ
@RealCFZ 5 месяцев назад
Technically, he has that ability back in the first NES Zelda game (even without the Master Sword). Link to the Past is the first game where Master Sword that debut.
@jonathanclarkson7379
@jonathanclarkson7379 3 года назад
Link: *damages other people's property* Cloud: And I took that personally.
@shootout-shinobi6672
@shootout-shinobi6672 3 года назад
Actually he probably thought it was aerith’s, which I’d imagine he took extremely personally.
@NeoDragonFlame
@NeoDragonFlame 3 года назад
HAHAHA! Bravo sir! xD
@KenDaKingArrives
@KenDaKingArrives 3 года назад
Yeah they were in Aerith's church, and so destroying Cloud's dead love's property was bound to trigger him pretty hard.
@jonathanclarkson7379
@jonathanclarkson7379 3 года назад
@@KenDaKingArrives So completely justified? Gotcha.
@KenDaKingArrives
@KenDaKingArrives 3 года назад
@@jonathanclarkson7379 No, not completely. But the place meant something to him, and Link was literally trashing it. The reaction is still understandable. There aren't many reasonable plots to make Cloud fight a silent hero.
@44RisingSun44
@44RisingSun44 3 года назад
Imo this is easily one of the best animated death battles ever.
@grungo2
@grungo2 3 года назад
Big improvement over the first one
@squatch1565
@squatch1565 3 года назад
@@grungo2 Agreed, I went back and rewatched it after this and it doesn't hold a candle. Death Battle has come a long way in terms of animation.
@squatch1565
@squatch1565 3 года назад
@@grungo2 Agreed, I went back and rewatched it after this and it doesn't hold a candle. Death Battle has come a long way in terms of animation.
@GenEric1305
@GenEric1305 3 года назад
And you can thank the boi Daitomodachi for that one.
@larryoliver1608
@larryoliver1608 3 года назад
Totally agree and with first reply
@Killua_Morales
@Killua_Morales 3 года назад
A guy that barely talks vs an elf guy that doesn't talk.
@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725
Adore the idea of bringing a Link that just has everything every Link has ever had, would love to see him in more matches but using more he's abilities rather than skipping to Fierce diety mask which i also think it's too big here, it's just adult Link with a blade that shoots beams
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
Its not actually. In majora's mask, you can glitch fierce Deity out of boss rooms, and compare it directly to other Hylians, and it is in fact a giant
@ronandread5141
@ronandread5141 Год назад
He also has the powers of the other masks including the bomb mask which would allow him to create explosions
@jthecryptid
@jthecryptid 10 месяцев назад
Fierce Deity is gigantic in MM. He's taller than every non-boss character model and even towers over the smaller houses. Easily in the 10-14 ft range Those sword beams were concentrated and strong enough to shred apart the moon. Don't short-sell Fierce Deity
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 3 года назад
The battle that almost ever 90s kid argued about at school.
@therealfran1149
@therealfran1149 3 года назад
*Sonic vs Mario would like to speak with you*
@jimbo-el8lf
@jimbo-el8lf 3 года назад
@@therealfran1149 poor mario
@khadirafarah1314
@khadirafarah1314 3 года назад
Pokémon vs Digimon?
@kxg9000
@kxg9000 3 года назад
Doncha mean late 90s to early 2000s individuals whomst'd've hit puberty and are still in school
@thecharmingone3931
@thecharmingone3931 3 года назад
Hello, Goku vs. Superman?
@DergSol
@DergSol 3 года назад
You forgot Link’s greatest move: When he’s crouching, you can make him do the Duck Walk. Cool, huh?
@pesciisthebestcharacter5100
@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 3 года назад
*I bet that's worth a kiss, huh?*
@-.DIO.-
@-.DIO.- 3 года назад
They forgot the Lamp Oil, Rope, and Bombs he had which all cost rupees
@warlordofvideogameglitches
@warlordofvideogameglitches 3 года назад
@@-.DIO.- including the armor that is powered by rupees
@pesciisthebestcharacter5100
@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 3 года назад
@@-.DIO.- he didn't have enough rupees and Morshu can't give credit, so he had to come back when he was a little *mmm* richer. That's why he was breaking pots during the fight.
@Sly_Maverick_31
@Sly_Maverick_31 3 года назад
CD-I Mario: No?
@sparrow420500
@sparrow420500 3 года назад
I don't think it's necessarily fair to equate someone's base speed for running or flying to the speed of reflexes in combat. Usain Bolt could most likely outrun Bruce Lee no problem, but would he be able to block punches and kicks from Bruce? Very unlikely. They do this in almost every video and it always bothers me. There should be different statistics for movement speed vs reflex speed.
@nahhhhhhhh271
@nahhhhhhhh271 3 года назад
Dude if Bruce lee met someone that regularly go’s at the speed of light and survived w super nova and fought them he’d be dead you’d be dead
@Tsuusetsu
@Tsuusetsu 3 года назад
I have also noticed this. Has been quite irritating.
@FumanyuX
@FumanyuX 3 года назад
Usain Bolt doesn't know martial arts Cloud does.
@ReikokuXTaifuu
@ReikokuXTaifuu 3 года назад
Yeah, I'm fine with Cloud winning but like... the logic and "calculations" in this one bother the hell out of me. Bahamut flying from planet to planet in seconds DOESN'T mean Cloud is capable of the same speeds. Every single time Cloud has fought some incarnation of Bahamut, it hasn't been moving anything close to that speed. Plus, when he was fighting Bahamut Sin, Bahamut was moving slow as hell, and Cloud FAILED to catch up to him. He only caught up because he was literally THROWN at Bahamut by the rest of his party members. If I can move at 10 times lightspeed, but then I fight someone at a normal human pace, it doesn't mean they can move 10 times lightspeed too. They did the same thing in Mickey vs. Yoda when saying that Roxas' heart travling across worlds means Mickey can do the same while fighting, which ISN'T even remotely accurate.
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 3 года назад
I agree, but I think that the rationale is that if someone can move at supersonic or light speed levels, their reflexes have to be comparably fast or else they would be slamming into things. Basically, if you have a certainly level of super human movement speed, you have to have reflexes that scale to match it in order to use it. It doesn't hold true if dealing with realistic human movement speeds though. Usain Bold doesn't run that much faster than other humans that he needs super human reflexes to use his speed.
@Dying2liveX
@Dying2liveX Год назад
Reality: Navi's constant *hey listen* causes cloud to unalive himself Link overcome with guilt does the same... The winner? Navi by annoyance
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
Wrong. Cloud casts silence on Navi, and becomes Link's hero.
@beastywilliams3447
@beastywilliams3447 3 года назад
I didn’t even care who would win, this battle was lit! Especially when Fierce Deity Link rose up from the rubble! Hearing the power in those footsteps and his approach was just Godly!! Awesome job animators!
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 3 года назад
I really liked the bit of Link using the Song of Storms to fling lightning.
@owenbaker2.084
@owenbaker2.084 3 года назад
Ah, having this premiere a day before Nintendo’s E3, how oddly poetic.
@TheShadow1347
@TheShadow1347 3 года назад
Indeed
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 года назад
This episode also came out after Intergrade.
@maibignutt6434
@maibignutt6434 3 года назад
they probably did that on purpose since we'll potentially get some botw 2 news during e3 lol
@madias1884
@madias1884 3 года назад
It would be funny if link loses then in e3 Nintendo makes link op
@madias1884
@madias1884 3 года назад
Like links glowing hand could destroy stars or something it would be funny if Nintendo makes link obsurdly op once botw 2 comes out
@vvlaze
@vvlaze 3 года назад
Jeez, people weren’t kidding about the part where Cloud falls on the rocks.
@OidBuddy
@OidBuddy 3 года назад
Ah I thought I would go ahead and spoil myself and see who would win. But you actually made me think link actually won.
@theallmightyfish3027
@theallmightyfish3027 Год назад
With tears of the kingdom now out I can’t help but imagine cloud trying his best to keep up with the raw power of JEREMY
@davidcottle3284
@davidcottle3284 3 года назад
Could have saved time and just thrown a chicken at link. They tend to wreak him.
@knil727
@knil727 3 года назад
They never account for obvious weaknesses like that lol. Cloud only has 3 variations to contend with- remake, original, and kingdom hearts. Like has about 10 or so. Which makes it more complicated. Although most of them have had to fight and run from chickens lol.
@FLYYADIGG24
@FLYYADIGG24 3 года назад
Does chicken are devil spawns
@neverknown2054
@neverknown2054 2 года назад
i love how link just straight up stopped fighting so he could break pottery
@novacorponline
@novacorponline 2 года назад
If you pay attention, you'll notice that the "collecting a heart" sound plays during that part too; the pots aren't just decoration he arbitrarily hates, they are functioning as item drops for him.
@neverknown2054
@neverknown2054 2 года назад
Admittedly, i didn’t notice the sound. I just wanted to go with the meme that he hates ceramics
@eliazararevalo6924
@eliazararevalo6924 2 года назад
Gotta get them rupe rupe’s
@jerrysdump4723
@jerrysdump4723 2 года назад
That boy sure is a pothead.
@PedroCampos-r1j
@PedroCampos-r1j День назад
Rob Rob Rob Eucmiltea.
@MattSayYay
@MattSayYay 3 года назад
I like how here, they actually show the time stop abilities countering each other, as oppose to Mario VS Sonic where it is only mentioned
@MattSayYay
@MattSayYay 3 года назад
@Xverine 3720 to 1 (That's an AVGN reference)
@7-BIT
@7-BIT 3 года назад
Its highly unlikely and out of character for Sonic to use chaos control though
@Drip_Sakuya
@Drip_Sakuya 3 года назад
Didn't they say in mario vs sonic 2018 that sonic has never actually used the time stop ability in the canon timeline they were basing evidence off of? I mean sure mario could've used the stopwatch but what are the chances sonic actually uses chaos control?
@goalhornstudios8426
@goalhornstudios8426 3 года назад
@Spongegod - Ominpants all this is very true
@grandmastoes4535
@grandmastoes4535 3 года назад
@@Drip_Sakuya strange because he once did it with a fake emerald in SA2
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 Год назад
Ancient arrows: deletes anything Link: shoots only one at Clouds bike
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
To be fair, that was only because they actually wanted to show the arrow doing something, since hitting Cloud with it wouldn't actually do anything. Using both LOZ logic (ancient arrow doesn't get its instant kill effect on more powerful enemies, such as bosses and Guardians), and FFVII logic (Cloud literally has immunity to instant death effects, and if you want to argue the semantics of "banishing to another dimension", which is the kiddy version of saying "it kills them", Cloud still has battle field removal materia that sends enemies, or more importantly in this case himself, through dimensions.), ancient arrows are only damaging Cloud at absolute best.
@marinohector9106
@marinohector9106 Год назад
You already posted that comment and made a complete fool of yourself in the ensuing debate.
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@marinohector9106 I'm guessing you are one of the people I discussed with, who decided that I was "making a fool of myself" because you couldn't handle the fact that I didn't accept your head canon as fact? I don't know why you would consider it "making a fool of myself" otherwise, since I only bring up canon material to make my points.
@cantthinkofausername5848
@cantthinkofausername5848 Год назад
​@@ikeillue8385 I'm pretty sure that guy was replying to the original comment. At least it makes more sense that way.
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Год назад
@@cantthinkofausername5848 You know, now that you mention it, that is entirely possible. I've just had a number of people who get bent out of shape toward me, because they don't like my stance. But if thats the case, then I owe him an apology. :)
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