Linux (and its community) Almost Broke Me! 

As a Linux user myself, all of this sounds very accurate to me.

I had the exact same problem regarding user groups. I live in Perth western Australia, and the Perth Linux User Group (PLUG) were downright rude and in response to question they could be described as abusive. I was forced to track down an independent user who turned out to be fantastic and agreed that PLUG were useless and responsible for driving people away from Linux. I persevered and got to love it, no thanks to the local forums or groups. If this gets me into trouble, so be it, but hey need to know

my strategy is to just never ask a question and instead just find someone else who already asked the question

The duality of the linux community, they usually fall into one of two groups: 1. Toxic users: people who use linux not because it's the better option for them. But to make them feel special and like their more intelligent than others. 2. The apologetics: people who try to be very helpful. But hype linux up to an unrealistic degree to the point of making stuff up or exaggerating things. Then there is the silent third group: average users that quietly use linux and don't treat it like a personality.

I've been on Mint for a few years now but I can relate. On many occasions I asked something in the forums like "how do I do this or that". The answer was usually "why would you want to / don't mess with that particular thing / stay away from stuff you don't understand" or something similar. In all fairness I usually got the help I needed in the end but a haughty vibe was always present. Still, happy with Linux and no plans to go back to Win.

this is why i keep on distro hopping and ditch the forums or communities overall. there is always a bunch of toxic people and so called "elltes" almost everywhere. i feel your pain sir. hope all this get better near future. i stick with garuda linux almost 3 months now after long used linux mint. i'm just simple user in linux world not a heavy or power user like you sir.

I been using Linux for 24+ years and all i can say is that the cult of Linux never seam to not deliver :D That said, back in the days it was a great community and everyone was there for everyone. It went down hill the last 10ish years and are only getting worse :( So i am sorry you had to experience that first hand. Linux is not for everyone, or everything! It's a tool that have it's use and non use. Keep at it, and do you. Great video!

It is really sad that new users are treated badly in the community, I am using Linux for a year now, I usually had bad experiences with the community , what I ended up doing is using RU-vid to solve my problems which is what I used to do on windows, I started using Linux mint then I switched to fedora recently and I was amazed by the quality of that distro, I use Linux mainly for coding, and heavy photo editing on Gimp .hope you try Linux again

It's a journey, right? I am more and more (considered an old dude at 72) these days. Yet moving to community based open source programs and platforms I too have found challenges communicating with each community. The last 12 years, the company I worked for went all in on Microsoft solutions. Nothing against them, but I have always had my outside of corporate life and now that I got "retired" my choices are more personal to my specific interests and needs. I love the whole idea around Linux, I have a couple of old laptops, 1 with Linux Lite, 2 with Linux Mint. Yet as you say, I am very much in a small sub sub sub set and when I converse with community I'm relegated to a 'newb' subset. I don't want to apologize for the fact that I used basic, assembly language, QA4, Paradox, Forth, MS Access v1. I'm just a guy having fun trying to keep up and Yet, the Linux community needs, in my humble opinion, to be open more to those in the room. Us old guys have a may have a few things yet to contribute. What you are talking about in this episode, Garrett, totally resonates with me...

I've been using Linux since January this year, and my distro of choice is Zorin OS. Since then, I've asked helps from the forums and all of them that I found were pleasing and helpful. I also have helped other users too in the forums for small problems especially in desktop customization. By helping them, I could reflect on myself back to when I started using Linux. This matter you brought up is a real problem. I saw few people, not many, in the forums tend to act like that too. I just disappointed at their behavior like that. Because that distro is focusing on new users that are coming from Windows. But seems like there are still people are gatekeeping Linux and wanting it to be like a club project just for themselves. I hope you won't lose your motivation to continue your Linux journey in the future and I hope you'll find people that treat you well and being helpful. Plus Ultra bro.

Yeah, had a similar experience. Gladly, as a programmer, I vould eventually stitch together most things with the little clues I DID get, but I don't remember any question directed at the community, that wasn't ridiculing any other choice of Distro just for the heck of it

It's awful hard to build a userbase if you tell people "you shouldn't be using this"

I still remember back then when linux discussion were still limited in yahoo mailinglists. the community would jump on you if you ask a question where the answer was already there on the archive. you had to search the archive and you had to be absolutely, 100% sure the problem you encountered was an original problem, then the community would help you.

This is how linux is. Anyone who says linux works either only uses it to open their browser, or they are gaslighting. It breaks constantly.

I completely understand where you’re coming from on this. I’d recommend if you revisit Linux in the future, go to the your Linux distros discord server if they have one, usually the people there aren’t elitists like the people on the forums

I've been using Linux for 20+ years and I still have questions. I'm using Linux Mint right now, because it just works out of the box. I don't think I've ever asked a question on a forum, I usually Google anything I have a question about. I have seen similar comments in forums that you are describing and I usually mumble some expletive under my breath about the person who posted the message. There are A$$H0lE$ everywhere. Don't give up on Linux.

Ninety-nine percent of GNU/Linux users are willing to help resolve issues if they are able. There is always a tiny, vocal, hostile group only interested in gate-keeping. In terms video editing I can think of at least four RU-vid content creators whose channels are GNU/Linux centric and who would have helped you. They use OBS, however, it is likely they have encountered similar issues with graphics cards and/or GPU support with their video editing software of choice.

One of the things that is suggested when moving to a Linux based OS is to be open to software programs that works well in the Linux / FOSS ecosystem. If you really must use a specific program that you are used to, the best place is to find the official instructions from the program's project page. Most of the times, the project itself does not want to support Linux officially. So, FOSS developers try to create workarounds to have these programs working. It obviously turns out very frustrating for them and others who have to tweak their systems to use those solutions. It's very rare to find someone who has good insight in solving such niche problems (which they probably know because they have faced it themselves) and then to have their solution work out perfectly for you. This is why people will just ask you to use a different program that is well supported and documented (mostly FOSS alternatives to your program). They don't intend to gatekeep, but that is the best advice they can give. Those things aside, some users can actually be toxic to beginners, intentionally or not, especially when they don't see the viewpoints of someone migrating from a different platform and how the one task they performed is as simple as a mouse click in one OS requires a far deeper understanding in the other. Find the right community for you and don't take mean comments to heart.

I haven't done video editing on linux, but i've seen that a lot of linux content creators agree that video editing on linux can be a pain on the ass (maybe that's why not many of these content creators have videos with very fancy editing?). Maybe give it a try next year. As for the community, I sorry you had to pass through that, I personally haven't experienced that myself, maybe it's because I always forget that forums exist + i'm to lazy to create an account for a forum + a hell lot of luck. But I can relate to what you passed, since I've seen this kinds of things many times on many geek communities (actually, linux elitism it's not very different to gaming elitism). It really makes me sad when someone gets a bad impresion of linux, especially because the linux desktop has a lot of potential and already does a lot of cool things. But anyway, i'm not going to blame you if you don't want to come back because of the community and stay on MacOS, which btw, even as a linux fanboy, i have to admit than it's preatty cool in it's own way.

I Completely sympathise, I try to make things work myself rather than go to the forums, which I only do as a last resort. Thankfully there are more friendly helpers there than not. Unfortunately like on social media, the smaller unhelpful groups seem to be the loudest. Be patient, don't give up on Linux, it is improving all the time.

Dude, this was a fantastic video encapsulating a lot of my thoughts and experiences online. Brilliant stated, and it also nails the frustration with the migration of workflows (eg your Davinci Resolve/Nvidia experience) between OSs. I intend my next hardware upgrade to involve a full commitment to Linux, and you can bet your ass that my GPU will be AMD.

I've been dipping my toes into the Linux world as of late and one thing I've discovered is there are just some things you can't readily do (or at all) on Linux and there are some programs that just won't work. As an example, I use Cyberlink PowerDVD to watch blurays on my PC, but from what I've found watching blurays just isn't a thing in Linux because you have to purchase a license from Sony in order to put whatever it is that decrypts them into your software which goes against the FOSS principles of Linux. It's unfortunate because I was hoping to be able to completely ditch Windows in the event that Microsoft decides to nuke Windows 10 once it reaches end of life, but it seems like I'm going to need to keep Windows around for at least that much. I also run an android emulator for the one mobile game that I like to play, and I often stream my desktop to my tablet through the use of Parsec when I'm away from home. Hopefully I can find alternatives to these things in Linux, but if not they'll be even more reasons I can't fully decouple from Windows.

As a Linux user, I'm sorry to hear that you had that experience. I've been using Linux for a while and enjoy the experience enormously. As I understand it, most Linux users who use DaVinci Resolve (and don't want to use the paid version, which bundles codecs in) would use a tool like ffmpeg to convert any footage that Resolve doesn't support to something that it does support before editing. I understand that the file sizes are rather large, and audio can still be a problem, so on the whole, using Resolve on a Mac is probably still a *much* better experience. There certainly *are* video editors on Linux which would support most codecs, but I do appreciate that you want to use your preferred editor, and Resolve certainly has a number of features that can't be matched by its open source competitors - though a number of those are now pretty good for most people's uses. Linux is currently only poorly supported by Davinci Resolve, unfortunately. Perhaps if you do decide to experiment again at using Linux for video (once the current trauma has receded!), you'd have a better experience seeing how you get on with one of the more 'native' video editors, such as Kdenlive, and seeing what it can do. I'd love to see that as an episode on your channel! Best wishes!

Personally I have found Mint to be much better choice for someone who comes from Windows. Nvidia is supported perfectly, you just need to pick the right driver. And with Mint these kinds of things are super intuitive, because while not identical the layout of things is pretty similar. You can even setup the Ctrl+Alt+Delete shortcut to open "Task Manager" (Very useful when you use some software that likes to freeze.) It could be a bit bumpy road to figure out where to get stuff like Wine and such and what versions. It certainly isn't so that you just throw Linux on and in five minutes (or seven days) you're going 100%. It took me three months, four different systems, and countless amount of screwups to get what I want. It's good to know what your system was built on, because for example Mint takes the same tricks to run as Ubuntu does. And once you know this, it's easier to find answers that were already written, no need to ask rude people beginner questions. Sure, sometimes you run in to a situation like I did, I was surfing forums for three hours to get my printer drivers installed, only to incidentally find that with mint all I need to do is put the file in the right folder and right click it to do the operation I need, no terminal required. About 10 seconds operation that I spent three hours on :D. Don't ask me how, I forgot it by now. Why doesn't Mint have some autocompiler/extension to just accept the file as it is? Don't know, seems idiotic to me, but hey I'm an electrician not a programmer. Maybe it's some sorta problem to do. If you installed Linux and thought you'll run in a week... Very naive of you. How many years it took to get really proficient with Windows? Exactly. And a lot of people and from those especially elders, never will. If you want to run Linux, approach it like learning a language. It takes time, and you'll be screwing up on the way. You don't have to be tech savvy. I myself am relatively dumb. But giving up after a week is the wrong way to do it, that I know for sure.

If you purchase Davinci Resolve you get the codecs included. I also avoid asking questions on Linux forums because sadly elitist are the type of visit those. I hope one day you have a good experience with Linux!

Funnily enough, I had a similar idea for a video back when the AMD RX 6800 cards came out. I bought one almost immediately after the launch and wanted to make a video about using it on Linux, specifically to edit videos in Davinci Resolve. Turns out, Davinci needs the proprietary AMD drivers to use the card for HW acceleration, but at the same time, the proprietary AMD drivers really suck for gaming compared to the open-source ones. I'm fairly familiar with Arch, so I've tried all the possible ways to make it work. Furthest I've got was a very buggy and artifact-y Resolve welcome screen. I gave up and tried to make the card work on Ubuntu, but after all the manipulations, the system just won't boot.

i run LMDE 5 and the community has helped me many times. i had trouble with my wifi drivers and they walked me through getting the driver to work. i hate it when people in the community do their best to alienate new users (i'm looking at you Arch users).

If I was Bill Gates, I would just hire people to hang out in Linux forums and be rude to people trying to switch from Windows....

Well... that's the same experience I have with it since 1999. From time to time I try it again, and the story repeats itself. There is always some detail that prevents the system to be usable.

had the same experience back in the day. the community is gonna get a shakeup with windows 7 and 10 refugees trying to avoid mac and win11 and 12 but I'm sure the linux community will flub the opportunity to take the majority share of the user market.

It's been 14 years since I moved away from (GNU/)Linux, but it seems a lot of things still hold true, as much as they hold true for Mac. You have to use things from that ecosystem. You have to use Linux-friendly hardware, software, peripherals (including cameras, printers, scanners, whatever). Same thing on Mac. With Windows 7 for the first time I had a workstation where everything just worked well together. By using DaVinci Resolve on Linux, you were being a Mac user on Linux. That was indeed the mistake. I made that mistake on Mac, being a Windows user on Mac, trying to use all of the software products I'm used to. It was a pretty poor experience also. When you're a power user of an ecosystem, it will be difficult to switch to another one.

I haven't used Linux as long as Kent, but I have used it since 2012 or so. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the community. Back then it wasn't like that and shouldn't be now. I had millions of questions, and for the most part everyone was helpful to me

is this happening in oficial support forums? i used those before for problem with linux that made it clear i didnt know much and didnt have any problem with people insulting me for not knowing things. i did experience a diferent issue, which was when someone responded trying to help, somebody else responding just to say that the person trying to help is wrong about some minor detail that doesnt matter to the issue just to prove how much better they are.

i thought this video was great. return youtube dislike plugin shows me that this video has like 15% dislikes which is quite alot... this tells alot about the linux community and its elitism and toxicity....

As an off and on Linux user for over 25 years, I completely identify and agree with your assessment of the community. It’s truly unfortunate. That being said, I run Pop and have no problem with H.265 HEVC (I’m a Canon guy, so not familiar with the other codec you mentioned). I wonder if the latest dust up with Fedora/licensing concerns they mentioned may be creeping into other distros now.

I do have to say tho, that if more media content creators would start using tools other than what is on Windows and Apple ecosystems, things would get easier from a user perspective.

Great video! I pretty much ran into everything you talked about when I decided to switch over to Linux a little over a year ago. Biggest piece of advice I can give is just to persevere. I personally find that unless you're beyond done with the bad stuff you get on windows and mac, you wont stick with Linux for professional work. That makes perfect sense, though. You need to be a specific kind of madman to make everything work. I was so pissed at windows back then that come hell or high water I would make video editing work on Linux and I did! Its not impossible, just tedious and annoying. I have to re-encode all my audio because of the lack of AAC audio on Resolve, for example. You, however, are on tight deadlines and you already have systems in place to meet said deadlines. It makes perfect sense why you had a somewhat negative experience. If you need things to 'just work,' yeah Linux ain't great for that. Linux still has a long way to go to be a more seamless experience, I will absolutely agree with you on that. But it is getting better and better the more people use it and talk about it. So thanks for making this video! If you need any more advice, you can always check out my channel. I aim to forge a path within this dense forest of knowledge that would allow more creative types, like me, to make Linux their own! And like you said yourself, the Linux community needs better "outer rings" for new users. I'm hoping we can all break the stereotype of 'gatekeeping linux user' lmao.

I don't know man.... I've asked for help on several community forums and I've always had useful responses. I've had people be a bit snarky, but to be fair, I was asking a question that I could have figured out on my own. I think the biggest problem that people have in any Linux community is people who don't try to help themselves, first, before asking for help. -- It sounds like you did a great job trying to solve your own problem. Maybe you should call out that specific forum and/or the users that gave you shit. Shit don't get better until someone says something 🤷🏾‍♂

Bulleye! Dude, even had the same experience with the car analogy. Every issue I've had with Linux has led me to an obscure forum post that has been unanswered 10 years ago or is an incomplete solution for a different distro that wouldn't work. And yeah the gatekeeping is high. Side note; if anyone wants an Evo to be more fuel efficient...... use a 0w20 Amsoil, 15.5 : 1 Narrow band O2 sensor and return the injector scaling and fuel map, higher tire pressure and more fuel-efficient tires.

Yeah... As a new Linux user, I have found that the less one has to turn to the community the better. I'm lucky I tried ElementaryOS then the Steam Deck. Both felt more easy to use (older MacOS / mobile styles of user exeriance). Best of luck working on stuff!

The Linux community is the biggest hurdle to widespread Linux adoption.

I moved to linux (Debian) when windows 10 was forced upon us. I'm fairly comfortable with linux, but I would never say it's easy. I never use forums for answers because of the toxic behavior. I just web search until my fingers bleed. BTW, I find youtube to be fairly helpful.

Strange, I've had the complete opposite experience. The community has been very welcoming and extremely helpful.

Hi Garret. I understand your frustration :) I was also switchong to work on Linux, with Davinci and photo editing mainly. But it ended better than for you. My pc is intel i7 with nvidia 1060, asus gaming mainboard. Davinci runs flawless out of the box on Manjaro KDE, but you should use usb license. I use also speed editor (wired). I also used KDE neon and after some struggle with nvidia it also run fine. Byvthexway Ivusexnow latest linux kernal on manjaro v6 without issues!

Linux fanatics lack critical thinking, they shut any valid criticism of Linux

I am so sorry for those elitists... I got quite lucky with the people helping me but those elitists can be so vocal it can be deafening... If at any point you'll have a change of heart and decide to give the penguin another chance maybe pick a couple a kind souls and just exchange DMs. Btw it sounds like you mentioned using Mac/Windows in that forum. Maybe that attracted all those toxic elitists xD About the DaVinci Resolve stuff, I heard the Linux version is quite borked in places. I don't edit videos myself but I do hope it will get the love it deserves so Linux can become a viable option cuz I love me some more penguins in the world ♥️

I feel your pain. Long time Linux user, previous Mac user. I've had the same problem, over and over on forums. I fought through and eventually learned how to do most things, but still far from an expert. IF you ever want to try Linux again, feel free to message me. I won't guarantee I can help, but I can try. I don't do video editing, I'm more of a software engineer, but I know that I had to completely alter my workflow when I switched, so it may not be worth it.

i just follow chris titus, distritube, tech hut and the linux experiment and it worked out pretty well for me i switched from windows to fedora

Did you try sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall? I used to volunteer at my local Free Geek -- that's where I first got into using Linux -- and I ended up being the primary orientation trainer. I tried to be nice to the newbies but I can't say the same for the other people they interacted with after me. One fellow in particular, just the way he expressed things was irritating to me even though I tried not to let him bother me. "Just do X" like this was a thing that the person in question should already know.

Advanced video editing as well as advanced photo editing are things that the average user will never do. It makes sense for distros to not put that much effort into that. On top of that since its considered more advanced people would assume that you would do more reasurch (looking it up) rather than posting on a Linux community.

If your software didn't work on linux therefor you think linux is bad for your use case that's fine but when you imply that the operating system is bad because of some random linux users that's kinda silly even if they are most of the linux community they didn't come preinstalled with your linux distro

Join endevour os community.Even if you use any other distro the community is really friendly and helpful.

I just switched to Linux today. I'm using Zorin OS. The reason I picked Zorin was because it was supposed to be just like Windows. And although that is true to an extent, it still lacks many essential features I have become accustomed to from Windows. But I already knew that. However, if I want to do anything beyond the OS or browsing the web, it's a nightmare. I'm constantly having go into the terminal and troubleshoot stuff, because nothing wants to function properly. Also, everything I use on a daily basis simply does not function on Linux due to it not being supported. Even trying to use stuff like Wine, just doesn't want to work. Linux users always talk about "freedom", but it feels like the total opposite for me. I feel like a little bird in a cage that can't escape the tiny confined space I'm contained in. Everything I want to do, just doesn't work. That being said, I'm going to resist going back to Windows and I'm going to try and stick with Linux, as painful as the learning curve will be.

I'm a developer. I started off on Linux then switched to Mac and now I'm back on Linux (buying another SSD for my desktop to install Ubuntu on was a lot cheaper than buying a new macbook), the users who tried to invalidate your experience with the terminal from mac are full of shit. Whether you're using OSX or Linux, it's still the same Unix commands which do the same things. You could even argue that your own experience was more authentic than theirs since OSX is Unix and Linux is (at least to the best of my knowledge) NOT Unix. GNU literally stands for GNU's Not Unix.

Good video. Definitely seemed like you gave it a "college try." A couple of things to keep in mind if you do give this another whirl. Even though Windows and Linux can run on the same PC hardware, Windows is much more of a "closed ecosystem" than Linux. "What are you talking about?" OK, let me explain. Obviously Windows is way more open than Mac, which is vertically controlled by Apple. But, because virtually all PC hardware vendors test their products against Windows and that Windows consists of a relatively small list of versions, architectures, etc., incompatibility between hardware and software is less prominent than it used to be. By contrast, Linux is completely open: outside the server space, vendors probably do little, if any, compatibility testing, and it's virtually impossible to test all hardware and software permutations. Given this, I think it's useful to start with the applications you plan to use and let that drive your decisions around graphics cards, Linux distros, etc. "But with Mac, I can run XYZ program on any Mac hardware; On Windows, I can run XYZ program on any Windows PC." Right, but as noted above, that's because those ecosystems are relatively closed compared to Linux, and the makers of the hardware you're using already have done at least a base level of compatibility testing with those operating systems. If your goal with using Linux is more of an experiment, then go ahead and grab a distro and some software and see what happens. But, if you're more determined to build a professional workflow around Linux, then you essentially need to reduce the amount of choice by narrowing your hardware and software focus--essentially, you need to define your own vertical software and hardware stack. And the place to start is the applications you intend to use, such as Da Vinci Resolve. While it may run just fine on multiple distros, I believe that Da Vinci Resolve is officially supported only on RHEL and its derivatives. Unless I missed one, none of the distros you tried (Pop_OS!, Mint, Manjaro) are a RHEL derivative. So, I'd see if Da Vinci Resolve requires a certain version of RHEL, etc., and go from there. Next, I'd look into the version of RHEL I plan to use and see if Red Hat has published a hardware compatibility list, particularly around GPUs and reconcile this list with any GPU requirements that Da Vinci Resolve has. Once I have stacked the hardware requirements for the OS and key apps I plan to use, I'd then go buy/build a system that fits these requirements. Of course, there's no harm in seeing if hardware I already have will work, but I should be open to possibly replacing hardware if I'm serious about making this a viable solution.

When I first switched I tried to download Google Chrome. The software center refused to install it and I had to download some separate program to install Google Chrome. When I asked why the default software center wouldn't install it I was basically "you don't want it to". I eventually figured out that the software center wouldn't install it because the file was in firefoxs temp folder. I "fixed" it by downloading the deb file then installing it.

man its sad to a newbie get turn away like this. im sorry you had to go through this. im a linux user but not a video editor, i havent done any video editing on linux yet, but i did see videos about video editing on linux from other youtubers, from what i have seen video editing on linux still needs work. the current state of video editing on linux is like this, if you want to to make simple youtube videos like your average youtuber , open source apps like kdenlive should do the job but if you want make videos on a higher level it can be become painful. i recommended this video about this topic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ltrot3s82Ys.html i would still love for you to come back and try again, i would recommend you to try the distro nobara , it comes with many dependencies pre installed

The Linux community is the reason I “noped” the heck outta there. In my opinion, the #1 deterrent from Linux is… Linux users. [insert picture of snake eating it’s own tail]

From my experience, Linux users get extremely annoyed by people who just ask a question without showing that they attempted to do some research and solve the problem on their own. If you just go on a forum and post " doesn't work and just crashes when I try to start it, pls help", you will get a bunch of angry "RTFM" responses because 99% of the time, the solution is somewhere in the software's documentation or your distro's wiki. I never had the "RTFM" experience because asking on a forum was my last resort after exhausting every other option. I also put in logs and explained everything I did to try and fix the issue myself + references to wiki pages, man pages, and other forum posts. I know this is a bit ridiculous and way too much for the average computer user, but that's how the Linux community works. I'm not saying it's right, it's just how it is.

Installing AMDPro gpu drivers on Linux can be as much of a pain as keeping nvidia drivers from breaking. In general, all drivers that are not included in the kernel are a pain on Linux, so I know how you felt. Resolve free on Linux sadly does not support common video codecs, and even the paid Pro version of it (which supports h264) has issues with common audio codecs, requiring you to set up an automatic audio/video conversion process every time you want to edit. You are right, Linux is not well supported when it comes to propietary applications meant for creative work, and it's kind of a chicken and egg scenario: companies don't care about it because of the low adoption rate from creatives, and the adoption rate is low because creatives can't use Linux as they need. I do also understand that the FOSS replacements for common creative programs (GIMP instead of Photoshop, KDEnlive or Blender instead of Resolve, Premiere or Final Cut, and so on) don't necessarily fit the needs of all creatives because either a lack of features or issues of their own. Don't get me wrong, I love using Linux, and I think it's great that those alternatives exist at all, but I also am sane enough to understand that not everyone is willing to give up features they need or learn a whole new editor from scratch, especially if your livelyhood depends on it and you need to make your workflow faster

I agree on the community part. I never go to any of those forums even if they say, "go and ask your question on the forums", They end up saying, "search the web" which I technically did to get to the forum. I usually just do a lot of distro hopping till I find the distro that mostly works with anything that I throw at it. None of the distros has been 100% perfect, but I have been able to do a lot more with others compared to the ones that don't work as well. There is a Linux RU-vidr that uses daVinci Resolve, he is currently using Nobara OS which is a gaming distro based on Fedora. There are many others. I've personally loved using Garuda Linux, Xerolinux, and a few others. Nobara and Risi OS are great Fedora based systems. there is also Ultramarine another fedora based distro. Ubuntu based distros are great, but there's a lot of outdated stuff that wouldn't bother using any of those. any proprietary software is going to benefit from a system with everything being 100% update to date. Hope to see you trying out Linux again in the future maybe trying out some of these Linux distros I mentioned. In the end, I will say, whatever works for you, use that. If you really want to switch to Linux, like I said, it will benefit a lot if you try a few distros out to see which one works better for you. mainly fedora or arch based is going to be better because everything is up-to-date, and you can get better more update to date codecs and stuff.

As a person who is a Linux user for decade or more, I heard about Davinci Resolve, and set all up. But I found it not logically designed, so I quickly switched to KDEnlive (I have only needs for 1080p) and my pain stopped. So, something is probably logical for Windows user, but is totally unnecessary for Linux user. The idea is to be open for learning, and today I need the same learning experience for using Windows, as I solely used Linux for years.

Never had these issues but I was lucky and I used to be very anti-social online. Here in Brazil, back in the late 2000s schools were using Linux Educacional 3.0 and I learned Linux there, including the terminal with textbooks. When I got my own laptop in 2015 at 14yrs old, I went for Ubuntu and fell in love. Then immediately started trying to get my friends to try it out and helping them... It was a little futile, I didn't know enough back then but now 3 of them have been running Linux for years thanks to my annoyance lol Sorry you had to deal with *that* part of the community.

I have been working on switching to Linux as my daily driver on all of my computers. I tend to avoid communities entirely. The reason I got more into Linux is because Google recommended me videos from Mental Outlaw and a few other Linux and open source software channels. I will say the resources for fixing issues with Linux are vast and a few searches can usually lead me to a solution. You just need to not give up. Some forums are better than others when it comes to basic questions but I know a lot of people in the Ubuntu community forums will suggest you try another program if x program doesn’t run. Pokémon, Sonic, and Reddit convinced me to never get involved with communities which is admittedly unfortunate. A lot of people don’t seem to understand that being aggressive towards people when you could be friendly and just decide to be an ahole for no reason isn’t exactly a good impression for newcomers.

If I'm going to use Linux it would be from a computer that directly has the os in it like System 76 or Tuxedo. But definitely understand what your saying

Yeah. Been there. Da Vinci studio. The paid version does have the codec support you are looking for. You still need to reencode the audio with ffmpeg. It does take a bit more work that windoze or Mac.

TL;DR: Linux is user friendly... it's just picky about it's friends!!! Expanded explanation: That said I do use and own a Resolve Studio and use on Linux (since version 14). Understand, Resolve ORIGINALLY started off being color correction that ONLY ran on a custom Redhat workstation ($30K) for movie studios and was later ported to Windows and Mac. They keep the minimal Linux support around to support these workstations. The issues with codecs support has several reasons, of which ONE is because Blackmagic Design wants to keep friendly relations with Apple and Windows. Resolve only exports to a few codecs (DNxHD) that are worth while (will export ProRes for $30K on Linux). It imports ProRes and DNxHD (and a few others) and with paid version X264 via Nvidia hardware decoding. I have not upgraded to 18.x yet so perhaps things have changed. My ingest process is to convert source video into ProRes + PCM_S24LE -- I know FFMPEG command line fu but there might be a GUI tool. Back in the eariler version ~14 days (and early), Resolve didn't even support listening to audio on the timeline and you had to have a Decklink for scrubbing Audio and Video (which has advantages if you want accurate color representation on a reference monitor). Also Resolve originally ONLY support Cuda (Nvidia) and still to this day Cuda on Linux is what they list I think -- however some out there have gotten OpenCL on Linux to work. It would be nice if the developers looked into hooking into Gnome's Gstreamer subsystem for extended Audio+Video codec support, but that would probably complicate their engine a lot. There are people* out there but this really is a niche market within a niche market! (*=Linux folks using Resolve) The BMD forum has a few Linux threads (and by design, they want anything Linux related to only appear in those threads). When you meet the "supported" hardware requirements and have supported (or converted) video codecs (I recommend ProRes + PCM_S16LE/_S24LE), the editing process is quite straight forward. --Doug

You should be able to double click and install a driver, but it seems it's broken. Maybe it's because you're running thunar (or some other file manager) without sudo and, when it tries to run dpkg with higher privileges that are needed to install deb packages, it cannot grant them because it doesn't have them itself. There should be a workaround, but idk why it's not implemented.

Linux user here. I had similar issues when I started using Linux, some of the forums and sub reddits were absolutely terrible. I game on Linux, and when asking about issues regarding games on a general linux forum, you are bound to run into resistance, unless the game is native, but if it needs wine/proton, you get downvoted and told to go elsewhere. I would say that, unfortunately, the nice linux users are not as active on the forums, whereas the toxic elitists are. So sorry you had to endure this.

I would suggest using that particular distributions official forums for questions as they have direct policy against people being trolls. I have yet to get ostracized or had someone be rude to me yet. Lets be honest though, this is the internet...there is always a few, and I wouldn't let that dissuade me.

To get help in linux you need to first do a little research on your own. That's just how it is. They help but never spoon feed. In early days I felt miserable in forums as well. But then I tried to read wikis on my own and get at least some kind of an understanding of the issue. Then in forums I could ask better questions. Thus I got better support. Linux community is a little weird, but they are nice. (BSD folks are pretty nice as well)

Sucks you had that experience. There is one guy I know of on YT that probably would be more than happy to help you. His channel is DistroTube and all his content is created using Linux. Derek is a nice guy who is very knowledgeable and truly believes in open source.

AMD openCL in the open source drivers is actionally going to get fixed eventually

The issues you had with installing drivers in Pop!_OS is spicific to Pop!_OS itself. Ubuntu has an easy GUI in the update settings that makes it easy to choose from a list of availabe and supported drivers. Also, the "restricted" codexes/file formats can be installed in most linux distros after the fact

When you embrace Linux, you embrace that you are on your own. I am thankful there is a wealth of information on the internet when I experience challenges, but I don't fool myself into thinking I am part of a community.

"The vocal majority of your community are toxic users" No. No we're not. You went to ONE forum and decided that the "vocal majority" of the entire Linux user base is toxic. I have never found that to be true. there is no "Linux Community." Linux runs smart-TV's, home PC's, sceintific workstations, 500 of the top 500 fastest supercomputers that exist, the International Space Station, Mars Rovers, Nuclear Power Plants, the Large Hadron Collider and even the f'ing Steam Deck. There are countless professional communities who use Linux to get their work done. And those communities are where the good communities are. If you're trying to do video editing on Linux... find groups, forums and communities focused on THAT. No one who's working on kernel optimizations for for DRM drivers is going to want to talk to you about video editing in a general Linux forum. Then there's the understandable and common scednario when people such as yourself approach a community asking a questions that've been asked and answered ad infinitum and people are just over it which is where most "RTFM" comments come from. In the larger Linux world, there is an ethos of self-sufficiency. That doesn't mean that you should have to just be stuck on something until you figure it out on your own. But it does mean that you're expected to have tried. In the Arch Linux forums, which are notorious for "RTFM" comments, the way people get the best help, is when they post something like: Having trouble with radion-si for Pre-Polaris card on Arch. I checked the wiki under graphics drivers and found no tips re: this issue. I found this reddit post and followed steps A, B, C and D and by all indicators it should work but returned the following errors: (pastebin of actual error output) They searched for relevant info, found what they thought was perhaps a good "guide" and followed it, collected the errors messages when it didn't and then approached the forum with that. 9/10 times you'll find your Linux question has LONG been solved. For the other 1/10 there's a forum / IRC to ask

As a long-time Linux user myself, I can relate to what you said in the video. Unfortunately, there are a loud minority of Linux users that are really toxic and unwelcoming to new users. Linux is a great OS and there are many friendly Linux users willing to help, but as you said they're overshadowed by a few toxic users.

Your predicament with hardware encoding on Linux is very much the same issue I'm having with OBS Studio. While I can record screen capture with my RX 550 4 GB, the result footage is choppy and not good, regardless of what settings I use. What I discovered asking on r/linuxquestions is that the open source MESA drivers for AMD GPUs don't have support for AMD's proprietary encoder. Linux users preach how AMD video carda are the way to go on Linux and how muxh bettee the MESA drivers are in comparison to the official AMD drivers, but they don't tell these things happen. I actually had much better experience with Nvidia cards using their proprietary drivers than with AMD cards, the supposed gold standard on Linux.

After using Linux as my temp, then main, then not at all on my laptop I learned that Linux is cool. I now keep it as a dual boot option, but man it has problems. Using Linux really didnt teach me that I want to main Linux (yet) but it showed me I want something out of Windows. Also I too had issues with Davinci Resolve on that laptop (it was a Nvidia laptop). But its diffidently awesome how far its come and I hope with the official release of SteamOS3 the community and Linux itself gets better.

I suggest trying Nobara. Davinci Resolve runs out of the box with Nobara.

I was very active over many years in usergroups and forums for different Linux flavours and distros, and I get you. It’s not ‘newbie-friendly’. There is a hierarchy, so you need to use a bit of psychology to get some of the ‘gurus’ to take you under their wings. You would be surprised of how helpful they can be, if you play up to their egos.

A bit late to the party, but anyway. I am a Linux user for around 4-5 years now and I see, what you mean, if we are talking about specific forums. That's really a problem and I don't really see, what one could do about it. In my feeling the Linux-Community in RU-vid is more constructive, but even here one can find quite a bit of elitism. The second point, which I want to make, is about video-editing (and as far as I know it's the same about 3D-Modelling). I use Linux myself on a daily basis for all basic tasks and regarding my job for data-science stuff. I would never want to do that with another OS. The point is, that the whole ecosystem, which I am living in, developt around FOSS in general in Linux specifically. The word of video-editing is (again as far as I see it) quite dominated by properitarian progamms, formats, codecs, drivers and so on, which were build for Windows of MacOS. That's the reason Linux as an OS is hardly pairing well with this properitarian dominated ecosystem, which get's used by most people in the sphere of video-editing. So switiching to Linux as a video-editior would most likely require to change to FOSS-video-editing-tools and nearly nobody wants to do that. On the other hand the developers of the diffrent parts of Linux don't really love to intigrate properitarian drivers and codecs into their FOSS-world.

I recommend Nobara os. Helpful and friendly community on discord. Drivers just work thanks to extra attention dedicated to making an os that has drivers working from the get go. Also I haven't used terminal this year at all 'cause I just don't need it for anything.

Funny how, when I was still a beginner to Linux, the most helpful and least toxic community was the Archlinux one. None of the "user friendly" distros had that.

Im not completely sure ( havent tested ) but i think the paid version of davinci resolve have the codecs that you need. They cant distribute those for free but on windows and mac those codecs are already embed to the systems that is the reason.

The gas guzzling car example had me cracking up. What would your answer be to that? I mean if you are driving a gas guzzling v8 hummer, how would you try to make that less of a gas guzzler.

My advice as someone who has used Linux as their daily driver for six years and not booted to windows outside a VM forr 4; The community has their head up their ass due to weird internal politics regarding Canonical. Ubuntu is the closest a Linux OS comes to Just Working most of the time. It's got *problems*, now more than over with them forcing SNAP onto users, but, here's my vague guide to making the process as painless as possible; Use Ubuntu. It's the base of half the distros for a reason even if Archheads don't want to admit it and continue to seeth. One of the advantages is there is a huge, existing support base for it, including reams of people who have probably had your problem and had troubleshooting done already. Research compatibility ahead of time. You cannot make everything magically Just Work for with a fresh Linux install. It will, a surprising ammount of time. - right up until it doesn't. No one expects Mac OS to work on random hardware configs. Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty. If your files are backed up you can clean install in like 20 minutes, even if something goes apocalyptically wrong. Don't be afraid if none of the advice makes sense to your tiny brain which has not opened its third eye in the third circle kernel intiation rite. Look for the discrete steps and just go for it. Yes, this is bad practice for professional IT, but you're not professional IT, you're the dude looking for the magical terminal string that will fix your problems. Do it for love of the game; Whether we like it or not, Windows *does* have a real stranglehold on software and hardware compatibility and Linux has to move heaven and earth just to stay on the map. Wine is infinite better than it used to be but it's still a pain in the dick. Lots of hardware has Linux drivers now, but not always, and they're not always newb friendly to deal with. Sorry you had a rough time, man. If you want help, I'm no techno wizard- barely a techno-hedge-mage if we're honest - but I can possibly sit down with you and try and make this work for you if you'd like to give another go at it some time.

I am a Linux power-user (mainly Manjaro KDE Plasma since 2019, but because a firmware issue with my new Linux Laptop, I am at Tuxedo-OS since November this year) and I can say that especially the Manjaro-Forum, Ubuntu-Forum might be a better place to get a more friendly atmosphere to solve issues. They might still require from you that you use some commands on the Command Line to narrow down the core of the issue (otherwise impossible, because every system has different hardware parts and software installed), but this would only be used to guide you to the solution. I am shocked to here that you made this horrible experience in regards of a Linux support forum (I hope not reddit, because reddit can be extremely toxic). I can say that I had a library file missing for VLC and someone helped me to the right file I needed to include. This was on then Manjaro support forum.

I had the exact same issue trying to get OpenCL working my AMD 6900XT and ended up switching to Arch and found the driver on AUR. Also If you want plug n play GPU on Linux go for Nvidia.

As a Linux user who has an Nvidia card and has tried to use free Davinci, yes, this video is absolutely correct. However, aside from needing to import your x265 footage, x264 is usually still the better codec at least from what I've experienced in practice, although yes, it will be slightly less efficient especially when editing 4K and you may need to bump the bitrate a smidgen. Yes, I still do wish Linux had good x265 HEVC support. I'm not entirely sure since it has been a while since I've edited a video, but you may be able to CPU transcode your x265 to x264 using Handbrake, if for some reason you are in a bind and absolutely need to edit on your linux machine. Obviously this is a workaround for a problem with the Davinci installer that isn't going away anytime soon.

I feel you, nobody was there when I need to understand something. When somebody ask question and I try to help them but I'm not that much on forum, I dont really search for helping, I just cant dont respond when I know the answer.

Linux is great, but it rarely lives up to expectations. I feel like it's getting better with newer users coming in, but idiots who tell you that you aren't doing it right or that's just the way things are done are infuriating.

I've just recently installed Manjaro (replacing Windows) on my main pc (like in the past couple weeks). I haven't really interacted with the Linux community, but that's because I haven't done anything complex or unusual. I really just do basic stuff, like web browsing, watching youtube videos, online banking, playing video games, though I've kind of given up on playing games because I just got bored with it and started doing other stuff with my time. I don't use my computer for work or creating content or anything, so I can't relate to your experience. I'm sorry your experience was so negative, but I'm glad you were fair and honest in this video and gave it your best try. About the only complex thing I'm planning to do is using virtual machines. Hopefully, I won't have to ask questions, and if I do, I don't meet the negative people. I'd like to see Linux have greater success, but some of it's advocates need an attitude adjustment by the sound of it. I hope in the future if you try Linux again you'll have a better experience.

Are you new buddy? Welcome to Linux Communyti! Burning welcome you can get from Arch group too!

My approach is different (probably because I am from the time when aggression was the norm). My intention in these forums is not to feel good about myself (I solve that on my own, thank you very much) but to understand a technical problem. In many cases the people who answer me consider that my problem is in how I pretend to do something that should not be done that way. I just ignore it and try not to complain about the people who were kind enough to answer me.

Hi! I'm a system administrator and I've been using Linux since around 1996. From my experience, hardware support has always been a problem with this system so I was not at all surprised by what you went through just to try to use a graphic card. From 1996 to 2006, I really try to use use Linux on my pc because what I really wanted was a UNIX, or at least a UNIX-like, workstation. I've seen what a UNIX workstation could do and I wanted the same on my machine. But in the end I got fed up, because I realized that for the last decade I spent more time fixing its quirks than actually using it. Long story short, I ended up using a Mac which offered everything I need: a user-friendly UNIX workstation that just works. I still use Linux at my job. Most of the servers I manage run a flavour of Ubuntu Server. Although I wouldn't recommend Linux for everyday users, on a server it's really robust and offers plenty of tools. But my office computer is a Mac. 😉 On a completely different subject, I had the opportunity to play with a Mac Studio M1 Max and boy! This machine was stunning! I've tried to max out its 10 cores to see if I could crash it but I couldn't. It remained totally usable and the user experience remained completely fluid. I had to put my ears near the computer to ear the fan, even though all of its cores were running at a near 100%. What a magnificent beast! 👏

As a linux user I wanted to try da vinci. The first thing I found for davinci on linux was: you need a nvidia graphics card. I have an amd videocard, so I never tried davinci.

Well to a degree I understand your experience, but also keep in mind that a lot of the people who come into the forums acting like complete noobs are often arrogant and cynical themselves, it's way easier for the community to see "i come from x OS" and immediately assume they're trying to check boxes and make comparisons to show off how annoying linux is and how everyone is like this and that then leave, instead of the fantastically friendly and open noob who's just pointing that out for no reason. There's also users who are noobs but think they know better, so they come off as "I need help with this because I don't get it" just to later say "well that's just not how it works". I had my own experiences of this with mac os users, but personally I don't think it's right to tag them as the "mac community" because they're clearly just the gatekeepers and edgy kids who get a laugh at telling other people to push their own turn off button. Regarding DaVinci resolve: Your issue with amd is related to opencl, the way davinci "detects cards" is basically detecting if any device on your pc can run opencl or cuda, for amd you usually just need to install the opencl package with sudo apt install and it'll work just fine. If you have problems you can download the drivers but not install them, just extract the opencl driver on a folder and run a terminal by pointing the opencl driver with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=path/to/the/driver. I KNOW this sounds complicated but usually just installing opencl from the repo will work fine, and if not once you figure it out to make it work just paste the entire thing on a text file and run that instead, I did this for the longest time because it's too hard to install the pro drivers and this is just typing the folder you have the opencl driver on and then running resolve on those drivers. The reason nvidia was so easy is basically because the nvidia drivers come with all the optional stuff included, while amd's open source drivers (mesa) usually don't, reason is well idk some distros do install them by default and you can install them yourself if you ever need to use opencl on anything. Also there's no need for another pc to convert the files to another codec, you can use ffmpeg pretty much on any machine no matter what it's running and you can google the variables to convert to a codec you like and works on resolve, pretty much every tool you find out to "remux" or "convert" videos out there on every os is using ffmpeg. Only caveat would be that for a little bit of time you might have the same file twice, which if you're recording in 4k 60 at insane bitrates you'll have 2 huge files instead of just one for that brief moment. Quick note: the reason users usually recommend just not using that piece of software isn't because "well f* u" but because they just don't work how you will expect them to, developers usually don't give as much love to the linux version of the program than they would to the windows one for example, so this would be the equivalent of "well if you're using a mac, you can use safari, there's no need to install microsoft explorer under wine to browse the internet", so the recommendation will always be to use something more supported than "X software I used on X os and it worked great there"

Excellent video! I can relate to it in many ways. It hurt at the time, although I can laugh about it now, but I remember a time in my early days of using Linux when I went onto a forum and posted a question. The only response I got was to the effect that I was too dumb to use Linux, and that I should go back to Windows where I belonged. To be fair, some of the other users on the forum roasted the guy for his response, but none of them cared to help me with the issue. I later found another forum where people seemed to be adult, and well-adjusted, and friendly, and where they went out of their way to help me. It is no surprise that this sort of behavior does tend to put people off using Linux. I enjoy photography, and I've experienced similar behavior on photography forums where the know-it-alls there would have you believe that they have sprung from the womb as total experts in their field, and shame on you for not being the same.

I use Linux for my daily work. I do programming. No one taught me personally, I just google things. There are lots of guide in the internet. Some are outdated though. I never asked or post a question on any Linux community. Google is there, you just have to search the right things