Lionel Scout Trains: Truths, Half-Truths, And Myths

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Episode 130: Over the years, the term “Scout” has been muddied up a bit and means different things to different people. For the sake of this video, I am only looking at the trains that Lionel advertised as the Lionel Scout line that was produced between 1948 and 1952.
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Lionel 1001 Scout Set: ebay.us/Z3WqML
Lionel 1101 Scout Set: ebay.us/kBM1dC
Lionel 1110 Scout Set: ebay.us/t3v7sQ
Lionel 1120 Scout Set: ebay.us/62bDqg
The main thing these trains have in common is the Scout-type knuckle coupler. Specifically, the Lionel part #500-1 Scout truck and coupler assembly.
These unusual couplers evolved from a desire for Lionel to better compete with the economic sets being marketed by Marx. The best sets in the Marx line featured a diecast 2-4-2 #999 steam locomotive, colorful lithographed cars, and operating “fork” couplers. Lionel’s early Postwar couplers were the electromagnetic design which, while far more realistic in appearance, were far more expensive to manufacture and required a special electrically operated uncoupling track to uncouple, while the Marx couplers could be uncoupled either remotely or manually. A deluxe Marx set could be purchased for under $20 in 1947, while the cheapest Lionel set retailed for $22.50 - a big difference in 1947 dollars.
But with these new couplers, as well as other cost-cutting moves, the new Scout sets retailed for $15.95 in 1948 for a set with a basic SP caboose, newly-tooled single-dome tank car, and new plastic gondola, or for $18.95 with the addition of a newly-tooled Scout Baby Ruth boxcar. In comparison, the next cheapest Lionel set, a very modest 2-4-2, two traditional cars, and a caboose, all with traditional couplers and trucks, retailed for a whopping $29.95!
So the first myth to address is: Because these trains are more than 70 years old, AND because they are unusual, they MUST be very valuable! This could not be further from the truth. The value of old toy trains depends on a number of factors, including rarity, age, and desirability among collectors and operators. Since Scout sets were produced in large quantities and with few variations, they are not sought after by collectors. Also, since these sets have a poor reputation for operation - sometimes deserved but sometimes not - they are not valued by operators, either. As a result, these trains built in the Truman and Eisenhower years are among the cheapest to acquire in the entire Postwar era.
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19 янв 2023

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@chiconian49 Год назад

I received a Scout set for Christmas when I was a kid. When we discovered that the couplers were incompatible with my preexisting Lionel, Dad put it back in the box and exchanged it for another Lionel set.

@Tyc11114 Год назад

My great grandfather bought a 1130 scout set with scout couplers in 1953. He didn't like that the couplers wouldn't work with other lionel cars. All he did was buy some broken normal lionel cars and swapped the couplers. It really brought the value of the set up from its original value.

@Leon-ps7tq

My first Lionel set was a 1950 Scout with the 1120 locomotive that my father gave me for Christmas in 1950. I learned so much about servicing Lionel locomotives from working on that set that it's still in operation on my layout.

@rakhimilstead8951

Being an oddball, I personally LIKE Scout trains. I have assembled a unit train of Sout gondolas, which looks pretty good running around the layout. I also have gathered some of the boxcars, tankers, and cabeese.

@donaldlotz5823 Год назад

Another thought, back in the day when the Santa Fe had premier trains such as the Chief and the Super Chief, they also ran an all-coach bargain train called the Scout.

@VagabondAstronomer Год назад

I run mostly Marx, and recently purchased two Scout motors by themselves to learn how they operate. I am utterly fascinated by the design, and hope to be able to get both running. This video answered a number of concerns. Thanks!

@Amtrak_P32_712 Год назад

I own a Lionel scout,got it used for $20 it is the full set. Besides from the couplers, I have had quite a bit of fun with my scout! Not the best in my collection but I quite love running the scout due to it being very reliable to me. My scout is a tank as it survived 2 basement floods but it is still running well!

@JonBrooks105 Год назад

THANK YOU for being accurate as to what is, and isn't a Scout!

@joeystrains.9316 Год назад

Fantastic job on the video, like you said, they're great for grandkids training purposes.

@petermotta1623

I still have my scout set from 1963. I cleaned them up last January and they’re still humming.

@richardsobieck9660 Год назад

Thank you for a fair and honest look at the Lionel Scout sets. They are often misunnderstood and many later items are thrown into the mix as Scout items that were never scout items. Also I have a few cars that came with scout trucks but magnetic couplers. interesting mix.

@dumpl3dore Год назад

I received a Scout set for Christmas in 1950 and was immediately disappointed. No whistle, no smoke and no neutral. My uncle built me a train table for a layout and I converted the couplers but that was as far as you could go with it since without neutral none of the operating accessories would work. Unlike my friends who had the "good" sets" I was stuck with this. Eventually gave it away and felt better immediately.

@ken0272 Год назад

Oh forgot to mention, when running my 1001...I solved the pulling power problem....I just always run 'em downhill.

@Cyber_Horse_Studios87 День назад

Wait, people HATE the scout series?! This is news to me! I got ahold of one of these engines that I gave to my grandpa as a gift as he was born the same year the 1001 was released in 1948, and it’s a beautiful little engine! (Though the part about it being a poor puller is definitely true. Poor thing can’t even pull its cars. XD) Thank you for doing this video on the history and truths behind these engines! I’m glad to have learned more about the 1948 1001 scout that I have to my grandpa!

@ronalddevine9587 Год назад

Very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.

@guitarshredderjay9423 Год назад

Very nice video! I love the 1110! I was very fortunate to find one with BaldWin Disc Drivers. And I even put green marker lights to add more touch to her.

@dadsdiabetes1067 Год назад

I have learned quite a few things from your video and I have been in the hobby since I was like 5 so its safe to say I'm now subscribed.

@williammitchem8274 Год назад

Fantastic episode

@jsrupert1037 Год назад

The Scout set was my first Lionel train. Later I received a newer train with knuckle couplers and was disappointed the Scout set would not connect. I still have it and it still runs reliably.