This is why I love this channel. All the silly ideas that I had when I was 13; I can now finally see how they work. I mean that as a compliment of course!
I tried it with a water to air intercooler when I was dairy farming, it worked amazingly for about 5 minutes then the condensation build up caused ice to form and started blocking the air flow
There were no pipes the rubber would have blown out due to the shrinking and movement of the engine. Plus it would have to be connected to the fire wall.
@@DakotaNorth-td3qiDid you even watch the video? At 1:56 he says he has it connected to the heater core inlet and I am sorely disappointed that they didn't try turning the blower motor on.
This is a great application for drag racing. Nitrogen cooled cold air intake. Oil coolers ,Fuel cooling without a fan or ice. Keep those used NOS bottles , could come in handy.
After a run a nitro drag cars engine is freezing cold, iced up and thiers no cooling system whatsoever. Outside of that, a regular engine with nitrogen as coolant would hurt performance with the engine outside of its optimal running temperature, or even break it.
@@jeremywhittler8591 Yes you are correct, but some race classes such as a Sportsman or Gassers run gasoline. Nitro methane does create lite frost on the blower. This could be applicable on a Turbo car. Hot and Cold side.
@@JonMadHatter no , no it wouldn't. Once again on a turbo hot side it would hurt performance, it also would cause oil starvation at those temperatures and grenade the turbo. You want the hot side hot for gas flow, they'll never use liquid nitrogen in intercoolers either. Its way too dangerous as far as spills on human tissue. It has no place in racing.
@@jeremywhittler8591 I suppose you have a point with the safety issue . Nitrogen is liquid @ -421 F . Be like exposing human tissue into outer space. Too bad though .Good cooling but little on the extreme side.
I love this kind of stuff, this is redneck engineering at it's best. No gloves or protective clothes, just grab the bottle of seriously dangerous liquid and start sloshing it in, only Vlad is bothering with safety glasses and he removes them pretty quick. And with the drivers forward vision almost completely blocked, goes for a drive to impress his buddies! It just doesn't get any better than this.
I know some guys in the pc overclocking scene that would bench in their boxers because once you spill it on a piece of clothes you realize it does more harm than good. The biggest danger is actually using a lot of it in an enclosed area and slowly displacing the oxygen.
You can pour it on skin actually, it boils so rapidly it doesn't really touch you. Like others have said however if you have clothing or got it inside rubber gloves it will remain on the skin til it's cool enough not to boil as rapidly and can make direct contact and when that happens the danger you speak of happens. Much like dry ice, you can touch it and all but it's only a danger if you actually grab and hold on to it. This boiling of LN allows allows you to quickly plunge your hand in and out of it but obviously no one should be doing this just in case you aren't too quick about it for various reasons. Either way it's not some "Oh no I got some on me, I froze!" situation, just don't let it remain in contact to the point you no longer critically boil the liquid.
Before I watch if I had to guess it'll 'work', but wouldn't last. Engines generally like to operate at a certain temperate (IIRC), not to mention the metal being cooled that much would probably embrittle it as well. Looking forward to seeing the results though.
Actually less clothing is safer with liquid nitrogen, as with clothing it will get absorbed and freeze your skin and that could be critical. On the other hand liquid nitrogen on bare skin is totally safe as there will be a vapor layer between and it will easily fall off
@@HappySlappyFace This is very true! I was just being silly, but you're right. I'd think you'd at least want the eyes covered, which he did do at least.
If it touches your skin it just rolls off. Boiling water will hurt you, this won't. It creates so much gas as it expands that it protects you for a bit.
In the lab we use both liquid nitrogen and a slurry of dry ice and acetone in condensers to trap solvent vapor. Maybe try dry ice/acetone or dry ice/isopropyl alcohol in this set up. I've found dry ice/isopropyl alcohol lasts longer than liquid nitrogen (can stay cold for 8-12 hours) whereas liquid nitrogen needs to be replenished every 3-4 hours. Would be interesting to see.
2nd comment, I love y'all's crazy experiments. Y'all are definitely my favorite Russian RU-vidrs. Don't know what is going on with the gearbox as definitely heard you grinding some gears. Not sure if it's an unsynchronized gearbox or what, but considering I'm one of the few Americans that still prefers to have a manual transmission, it's kinda painful. Anyway definitely a cool video, and my first thought was that it might crack the engine block or cylinder walls, but it seems like the lada held up. Gotta love the old school cars. I think a better use for nitrogen could be as an environmentally friendly refrigerant for the air conditioner. The pressures needed for this will likely be much higher than the refrigerants used today though, especially in older vehicles. My 1990s car uses R134a refrigerant, but maybe nitrogen can be used in the future. Releasing nitrogen into the atmosphere is pretty much harmless as the air we breathe is about 70% nitrogen. Anyway, I wish we still had manual transmissions here in the USA. They're much less complicated and last longer. It also makes for better drivers. Anyway, cool video to say the least. Literally cool.😂
Hey do a System with Heat Exchanger Inside of the Bowl and use water Inside the Engine. So the nitrogen would only cool the water down. So you can also keep a Thermostat
@@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr simply use antfreeze, I doubt that the liquid nitrogen freezes the circulating liquid below -40 to -50 degrees where antifreeze stops working, if it even didnt Crack a lada Engine or Water pump when used pure
@@Moonlightshadow-lq4frnot if they only use large pipe for heat exchange, smaller diameter pipe would surely freeze up too quickly, but with a larger area you could just rely on the inner flowing water to melt the water freezing on the walls of the pipe contacting the LN2
Try using galium for radiator. It has a higher thermal compasity and will turn to a liquid at just above room temp. Watch it touch aluminum parts and crumble.😊
Holy shit they used my idea!! 😮 I literally commented on a video a month ago saying this idea. Yay!!! I have sooooo many more ideas for these guys! I wish I could work with this channel ❤✌️
I'm still waiting for Vlad and the crew to make a flying Lada. I've given the details but, they haven't done it yet. For safety sake, the flying Lada should fly in ground effect. If they actually gained altitude and something went wrong, it would be bad.
Try running coolant like your supposed to then make another sealed system that pumps liquid nitrogen to a condenser in front of the radiator that way you don't loose so much or put a tank for the coolant and put the condenser in the middle of the tank keep up the videos doing real good!!!!!!!
Make a closed loop cooling system like saltwater boats use, and use a fluid for the engine coolant with a very low freezing point. Use the liquid nitrogen as the "sea water" side of the cooling system.
Interesting video as always, these crazy car hacks have a certain charm to them. To improve this build, my suggestion would be to put the pot on the top of the car, for better visibility, also make a sort of "exhaust" pipe for it that routes the vapor to the back, only because it would look cooler imho :D Also for the warming up. I'm not a car mechanic myself, but afail tehere are some termostat that opens above a certain temperature in cooling systems already. I would keep regular coolant circulating in the engine, and when the termostat opens, I would make it so, that the Liquid nitrogen cools the coolant that is circulating, and stops cooling it when the termostat closes. This way the temperature could be controlled in some way, and maybe the car's "nitrogen consumption" would be lower.
If you were to pressurise the system you would not loose so much gas, maybe a 14 - 15 PSI cap would work at least to some extent. Well done guys another great project.
I think using compressed nitrous oxide to spray on to the radiator would be pretty effective. A solenoid attached to a thermostat and when the temp gets to a certain point, the nitrous sprays across the radiator bringing coolant temps down.
In the US, people are using CO2 sprayers to keep their intercoolers super cold so that the charge doesn't exceed 1075 degrees F when it is compressed just before the spark plug fires. This prevents detonation and some of these engines are running boost levels that rival the pressure in the tires......
You could try regulating the flow with a cryogenic valve. I recomend Herose, their brass valves are very good value for the money. But liquid nitrogen is very hard to control. First nothing happens for a while and then everything is cold in seconds. Also, since nitrogen does not have a lot of heat capacity, the inlet where the evaporation happens will cool down a lot, while the rest of the engine stays warm. But codus to Lada, I expected the engine to crack immediatly. It is probebly made out of high quality austenitic steanless steel ;)
I think that if you find a way to cool the engine with liquid nitrogen or dry ice in combination with water of course (antifreeze), I think that you will be able to make any engine perform at least twice as much and the best part is that you can reduce the weight of the car so you no longer need radiators. There is also the benefit of energy coming from the alternator for electrical energy and the speed conditions for the engine to cool down if more power was required.
You should try to make it more compact and try to make a pressure valve for the lid to keep more liquid nitrogen in it so you don’t consume a lot of the liquid nitrogen
G'day Garage54 & BMI, As someone who is also into Computer Overclocking this was REALLY COOL!, for reglating Temps you could talk to Elmor Labs, they do LN2 Extreme Cooling Setups for Computers, or Vince "KingpIn" Lucido" of KPX Cooling who along with LN2 Cooling PCs is into "Overclocking" Electric Bikes. Air Conditioning would just need a hose added to the tank pressure vent so it's pumping through the cabin🥶☃ with "Let It GOOOOO!, Let it GOOOOO!" pumping through the Speakers 😂 & I think as LN2 is going through the Cooling System if anything would fail the Water Pump being Frozen will be a weak point
Two stage cooling system. Try placing the radiator in the nitrogen vessel. This will lower the coolant temp. If the vessel is done right, you can also use dry-ice. Which is easier and sometimes cheaper.
I could see this working a bit better if the liquid nitrogen was in a pressurized radiator in front of a standard coolant radiator so it could pass cold air over the coolant so it would cool off much more efficiently and not cause premature engine wear. Great video and idea.
nitrous oxide to spray on to the radiator would be pretty effective. A solenoid attached to a thermostat and when the temp gets to a certain point, the nitrous sprays across the radiator bringing coolant temps down on a sport bike /my truck hear in AZ would be some thing to look in to cars die fast out hear this is cool lol
Need to weld the lid to the tank, and add filler neck to the lid that has spring-loaded valve to avoid leaking nitrogen too fast. Adding back radiator would avoid cooling down engine too much.
you should figure out a way to vacuum seal it as a system, maybe dangerous but it'll stay colder longer because of atmospheric pressures and stuff this is honestly a useful idea
Try it in a closed system! 😂. BOOOOM! Im surprised the thermostat didnt freeze shut. I think you took the thermostat out though. I wonder if it would blow up in a closed system. ????
can i ask if you guys can do a video on compression ration and see how low you can go before it stops running and when that happends see how much boost you can put though the low compression motor to see how much boost it handle please and thank you, you guys are inspirational
Use the liquid to cool the radiator under a controlled spray on it. That would help cool the antifreeze in cooling system. May be able to control it better and may last longer too
Awesome video guys! I have 2 suggestions: 1. You should have ran the heater to see if the nitrogen was flowing thru the heater core. That might have been a really cold air conditioner. 2. A while back you poured boiling water onto a frozen windshield to see if it would crack. What if you poured liquid nitrogen onto a hot windshield??? Love the videos, keep it up!
Run the liquid nitrogen through the a/c evaporator. Test how well it cools the interior. How about a liquid nitrogen to coolant heat exchanger. You could make an adjustable by pass of the coolant to regulate the system.
It cools by boiling, that's why it off gasses so much. If you make it a sealed closed system the pressures would likely be well over 1000psi, maybe 2000 (I'm not looking up the chart). That's a gun range experiment, because something will blow HARD, no plastic, no thin walled tubing... The coolant jacket of the engine block could likely blow up.
Find a way to make the cooling system a little more air-tight to cut down on consumption and put the tank/reservoir on the other side so that you can see?
You can keep it longer by using a compressor evaporator and liquidation basically the components of ac or refregirator it would work better because its co2 and what dome refrigerators and ACS use is propane
Remember that only 14grams of liquid N2 makes about 22.4L of N2 gas (@STP), which will slowly asphyxiate you without too much warning. Keep the garage well ventilated.
I always wondered if you could air condition a car with a heat exchanger filled with liquid nitrogen. Or rather, *how long* could one air condition their vehicle with such a device. Maybe try that next?
Would be nice to use a spiral tube in the liquid nitrogen tank to cool the air from the air filter to the engine, to try to emprove a little bit the power
I've always wondered if there were power to be made from supercooling the gasoline entering the motor. I'm more familiar with heating the fuel and air charge for more complete combustion and cleaner emissions. Perhaps super cooled gasoline in a direct injection motor could realize some power gain.
You can use a liquid to liquid heat exchanger instead of a radiator, and run the engine on antifreeze, and if the thermostat opens up, the liquid nitrogen cools the antifreeze.
You need it to recirculating and a condenser to re cool the liquid nitrogen and keep it in a semi pressure tank 7kgs into 2 liters of space or how ever much space is needed but by half if possible?? I'm guessing some to be under pressure. Hope I give some help. Good luck my friends .😊
A heatwave? I'm jealous, this summer in Germany is not going over 30°. 20 years ago, I never had a summer without 35° or more. We are currently hovering around 26° on good days
People, he's trying to keep the cars from overheating... Put the original water cooling system back in the car and route the Nitrogen hoses so they are following and touching the main radiator hoses. This way maybe you only need a small tank of Nitrogen tucked away under the hood. Make sure to insulate the hoses. Best of luck, hope this helps!
You can try to make a closed loop system with water and a small pump and exchange the heat in the container filled with nitrogen (may be a sort of small rudimentary radiation for more suface)
I think a sealed system circulating through an auxiliary cooler with an electric pump and staggered lines mounted behind the radiator / condenser would be far more realistic and feasible.
Neat idea! What would happen if you used a sealed circuit? So no vapour can escape, using valves to fill the tank as if it was a refillable cigarette lighter? Could even make the tank transparent to see the level. I wonder if this would have pressure issues, or if it would work and possibly make the nitrogen last longer?
Reminds me of the british film "The day the Earth caught fire", a story where two test nukes were set off at the same time & caused the earth to tilt on its' axis and start heating up, and due to water shortages, cars started being outfitted with some rather strange cooling contraptions to keep them from overheating, goodness knows what they were meant to be, but this really reminds me of that film... :P
so you made it with an open reservoir system, what if you removed any weak components such as the rubber hoses and created a pressurised system, meaning once the nitrogen has gone in, it gets sealed and hopefully never needs to be topped off
Well before the nitrogen getting to ambient temperature the radiator would explode if it were a sealed system, even if you had a super strong radiator it would be less efficient than water as it is less dense so wouldn't conduct the heat away as well as water.
