I'm willing to bet that it has. They just can't say anything about it because Russia. Getting around the sanctions was easy. They've basically already accomplished that. All they had to do was switch up who they trade with and use other countries as middle men to import previously banned goods. Availability for most things likely hasn't changed much but the extra cost involved in getting around the bans has made things more expensive. I'm willing to bet that GM shop next door to them is feeling it for sure.
Yes, we need a follow up of this. I would say the mixture should be: - (90% of the recommended octane booster amount) so 13mL of it -same amount of oil -half amount of acetone -10-20% turpentine (to make the oil residue burn off due to higher combustion temperature, and the oil should protect the engine) -Rest should be Gasoline
I was thinking the same thing when the compression was significantly up after the first test with the 2 cycle oil- those full throttle runs likely just burned some carbon off the valves and rings, improving their seal. It's also possible the improvements seen with acetone could have been as a result of it cleaning the fuel system. It would have been interesting to see a final acceleration run and compression test on pure gasoline to see if the improvements were still there.
The oil probably sealed the worn rings, and the acetone probably gave the injectors a cleansing, but that's probables, need to examine things before and after in detail to be sure... :)
Yep pretty much. I'd like to see what happens in the long run with a lower dose of oil. Probably not a bad regimen on a new engine either if it weren't for the idea of screwing with sensors. Upper cylinder lube has always been a concern with 4 strokes... nothing up there will complain about a little extra oil except the plug. It's really the deposits that would shut it down. But I figure at a low enough concentration, it would have an improvement effect without doing too much deposit wise. I'm thinking maybe 500:1 or so.
A lot depends on which bolts and how much. You can get away with doing this on the lower part of the engine for a while but the top end will likely not start due to air leaks.
In Canada, years ago, we had a similar hack to the turpentine. When we had a car with low compression, we'd add a handful of mothballs into the gas tank. The car would run like a dragster for about 40-50 miles and then the pistons would start to delete.
10:02 youre saying its a popular thing, but here in Brazil the regular gasoline comes with "only" 35% of Ethanol 😅 we dont even know pure gasoline... When for 2stroke, we put a bit of water, mix it, and let it sit for a day to separate the ethanol 😂
at least all engines in brazilian cars are made to support both ethanol and gasoline, so the presence of ethanol in gas doesnt make any difference, except in older cars and imported ones, and ethanol increases octane levels
I add 1 liter of acetone to 70 liters of diesel. to benz OM642 diesel engine, time to time. it operates smoother and quiter. on long runs with a relatively constant speed, fuel ecomony gets better during that trip.
When I had my volvo d5 diesel I added when I was going to the gas station some 2 stroke oil, the engine runs smoothly because it makes the diesel smearing capacity better, because here it's al biodiesel.. the car is still on the read, I thought it has around 900.000 km, first engine, first pump..
It will actually run worse as it will create a very lean condition. Nitromethane needs lots more cc of fuel for the same quantity of air. To get any improvement you will need at least 3 times the fuel flow for the same amount of air being pulled into the engine. Nitromethane molecules are a lot smaller than a hydrocarbon molecule. Thats why top fuel funny cars have superchargers, not because the supercharger is increasing power, but is nessesary to pump the amount of air into the engine that the nitromethane needs to make a proper mixture.
@@SebastianLongnot true. You can literally mix vp race fuel to 87 pump gas and create your own octane. I do it often with my Audi bc it’s turbo and I can make 96+ cheaper. You can easily mix them and run any car just fine as it would if you put premium or super in a normal vehicle. The benefit wouldn’t be there like it is in high compression engines.
Added a small amount of paint thinner to some older gas in a can I found in my garage. Put it in my Lexus is300 and made it about 2 miles before the thinner ate the internals of the fuel pump. 2/10 would not recommend
In rally competition they often added tholuene to the gas for a turbo car (Evo's, Subbies.) That gave more knock resistance and allowed higher boost. They also used it in F1 turbo engines in the 1980's. The unfortunate thing is the tholuene is toxic. Oops!
You should really repeat that baseline test at the end, if it would be around that 17.6 that you've got at the beginning then we can talk about an improvement, otherwise 1 second difference with that long time as a baseline is possible due to better start, less slip at the launch, and plenty of other factors.
I agree. I not surprised they didn't do another base line. They tend to over due the "build" and under do the testing. Maybe in Russia if your video is over 20mins no one watches it idk
Yeah, I think that the acetone cleaned the injectors, hence the better elapsed time. He should have tried with straight gasoline right after the acetone run. I'm pretty sure he'd still get 16.8, but now we'll never know.
I worked with a guy that routinely added acetone to his gasoline. I don't know the ratio but he claimed a 5mpg increase. Hand to laugh, 'runs like hell untill the pistons melt'. Thanks,i neededthat. Love this channel .👍
I ran my 2t bike on polyurethane solvent for a few months until there was no more solvent left. It ran well with a very slight decrease in power. Between 1 and 5%, I would guess. The fuel economy was MUCH lower though. Maybe a decrease of 20 to 30%. That happened without ANY adjustments to the carb. Had I known what I know now, I probably would've been able to get the power loss back and definetly would've improved on such a loss in fuel economy.
For ages I was adding acetone (AcMe) to gasoline. But less is more. More will have "more power" but fuel efficiency drops. The recommended dosage was 4oz per 10gal, so when getting ~14gal of gasoline, I'd add maybe 5oz or so. Before, turning the wheels to the extreme left and "uphill" to pull out of my parking spot, I could try letting it idle out, and it would chug-chug-chug and slowly pull out in small pulses. After adding AcMe, not only was idle noticeably smoother, but it would pull out of the spot and get to 3-4mph without even touching the accelerator. What AcMe does is make the gasoline easier to light up, so that if you have fouled plugs, are running too-low octane, etc., it would smooth out the engine and it would just purr. Even or especially in cold weather, the engine would light up *so* quickly, that a short turn of the key would instantly start it vs cranking a few seconds. But again, less is more. Measure gas mileage for a few tankfuls before anything, then start adding a consistent and small amount, and again measure several tankfuls.
@@KevinJames-yg9eu More complete combustion. Back when my old 4-banger had a vacuum leak, the #1 plug was completely fouled and #2 was getting there. Would barely stay lit unless you'd get it revving, at least 'til it'd go closed-loop and "adjust" itself. That's when I first tried adding AcMe, and the engine ran way smoother when still cold, until I could get the hose replaced.
@@KevinJames-yg9eu I think that knock (pre-detonation) is purely heat induced, whereas this is just making it easier to light from a spark. So I don't think there's a comparison to be made. But I'm no expert so I could easily be wrong.
Where I come from it used to be quite common for people to add mothballs to their gas. These mothballs contained naphthalene, which will increase the fuel octane level and has been used for such since at least the 30s, but it does of course come with some caveats. For one thing, I'm fairly sure it resulted in chlorine gas being a bi-product of either the naphthalene or some other component of the balls, along with the usual things you'd expect like carbon deposits being a possibility. It had a distinct aroma when burned, so you could always tell when a car went by with mothballs in the tank.
That was totally awesome Minami! I love seeing how things are made and you have the exclusive Yoshimura tour now! I always wondered what motorcycle factories are like given the high standards and respect for excellence that the Japanese are known for. Great vid! From fellow biker in USA!
Hey, can you guys make a see through Air Conditioning system? I think it would be really cool to see how the refrigerant acts. I saw your see through shock video and thought of this.
Air conditioning systems often see pressures around and occasionally above 350psi. Make that out of clear plastic and you're basically asking for it to explode.
Another old school trick is add a gallon of diesel to every 10 gallons of petrol if its engine wear. It also works the other way if you have a good diesel, add a gallon of petrol to a nearly full tank of diesel, it makes a slightly hotter burn which increases power ad torque
It is criminal that you didn't test 5 of them together. 2 stroke engine oil to boost the compression, acetone to give higher octane value, turpentine to increase the power more (and produce heat), ethanol to cool down the engine so the turpentine doesn't melt the pistons and rest being gasoline. Those results would have been super interesting to see.
@@williamhill7999 Not directly. Most 2-stroke oils have a required amount of detergents in them to prevent carbon buildup from the un-used oil. Those detergents probably cleaned off the piston rings and restored the compression back to factory levels. Marine 2-stroke oil is the best for this application in 4-stroke engines.
@@EnwardJimoh crap then the 2 stroke oil under that assumption isnt going to do anything for FE in a brand new engine. I was hoping you were going to say the PIB in the oil is how the FE increased. Bummer. I need to get more FE out of a brand new motor.
During the 00's gas price spikes, many fuel economy discussions arose. This was one of the tricks. Supposedly by adding a certain percentage of acetone it increases fuel economy.
2stroke oil is great for your old 4stroke motorcycle fuel, making it run leaner and giving it better compression with upper cylinder lubricant, also works great for modern engines, fi etc, but a secret trick is to add less than 5% diesel to your 4stroke fuel injection engine to make it run leaner, because the oxygen sensor says "unburned fuel in exhaust" and just injects less petrol, so it gets leaner and hotter in the combustion chamber, which actually burns the diesel completely so it doesn't build up in the sump like a carburetor 4stroke will do, with diesel added.
Acetone can increase the burn efficiency of gasoline slightly. Marvel Mystery Oil in the gas can help lubricate the compression rings and help a bit on power. Helps the rings last a bit longer too.
I knew a guy who when selling rattly old petrol engines he'd tip a litre of diesel in the tank as he said it'd give it a little top end lubrication and shut it up... I once did it accidentally on a clapped out Chinese bike I was running and sure enough it did seem to dampen the clatter a little.
Yup jay Leno puts some ATF fluid in the tanks of his older vehicles for the same reason...plus it's great for keeping the fuel system clean with today's gasoline if your rides sit for some time between use
Before watching, acetone makes more difference in a tuned and high compression engine which this isnt however there will be a small performance increase mostly due to the cleansing properties and partly due to increased octane rating, 20% acetone will take 92 octane up to about 98 or 100 but in a stock engine without additional tuning it costs more than its worth. In the UK anyway
Thanks for your experiment, I can show it to people saying higher octane is better that it's not the case with most modern engines. Using what manufacturer recommended is always the best option.
I remember throwing mulitple cans of octane booster into my UZZ31 Toyota Soarer with the 1UZ. It did respond up to a point, whereby the engine was much quicker & smoother to rev. I'd done other mods too such as a full header back exhaust and a piggy back ECU.
My Honda J32A2 engine also seems to really like higher octane fuel. I used to think it ran really well on Russian "mid-grade", but the local premium was a game changer (in terms of smoothness, low to mid range engine performance, and peak horsepower as well).
Been running 2 stroke oil in my port injected truck and direct injected car for many years. Both have factory emissions equipment, no issues. I notice that the cylinders stay much cleaner and I get slightly better mpg. Interesting to see your results
The Acetone apparently helps by making the fuel atomise and burn better. Ive been using it at a rate of 2ml acetone to a litre of petrol. Its so good that it helps me pass emissions tests with a decat free flow exhaust. In fact the readings are slightly lower than with the cat !!
Is it better than the 10% they show? Ive tried 10% 2stroke oil I noticed reduces engine braking, and acceleration is smoother in that car feels a bit floaty, on the bike it makes it easier to hold steady rpm at long uphills
Here in the stays we have Marvin's mystery oil. Not sure if you have it there, but you can add it to the oil or the gas. I put it in the gas. It works utterly amazing. Love it try it sometime search
Experience at the track has taught me having your window up/down makes a difference. It should have been consistently in the same place during testing (up for fastest time). Also, should have ran plain petrol at the end to see how much gain was from running the piss out of the engine cleaning it out, vs fuel gains only.
@@gabrielv.4358 Опыт работы на трассе научил меня, что подъем и опускание окон имеют большое значение. Во время тестирования он должен был постоянно находиться в одном и том же месте (самое быстрое время). Кроме того, вам следовало бы в конце залить обычный бензин, чтобы увидеть, какой выигрыш был от выкачивания мочи из двигателя и его очистки по сравнению с приростом только топлива. Opyt raboty na trasse nauchil menya, chto pod"yem i opuskaniye okon imeyut bol'shoye znacheniye. Vo vremya testirovaniya on dolzhen byl postoyanno nakhodit'sya v odnom i tom zhe meste (samoye bystroye vremya). Krome togo, vam sledovalo by v kontse zalit' obychnyy benzin, chtoby uvidet', kakoy vyigrysh byl ot vykachivaniya mochi iz dvigatelya i yego ochistki po sravneniyu s prirostom tol'ko topliva.
Try BTX gasoline. Benzene, Toulene, Xylene. Mix all in equal parts with about a 1/4 liter acetone per 4 liters total. Perfect amount of acetone is not required. High octane and all the rage in late 70s dirt bike racing. Fun video!
@@S.ASmith It's widely used as a paint stripper, and in fuel system cleaners, meant to clean out sludge. However, yes, it DOES add a bit more oomph to the fuel. I used to work at an autoparts store and one of the old timers who was a regular, said back in the day they added it to their racecars for this very reason. That's why I always use Berryman's, because A) it works great, but B) it helps performance just on its own. 😁 I always put two cans of it in my 1990 Chevy Suburban (4x4) with its 38 gal tank and 195,000 miles on its 5.7L V8 _(two can treat slightly more than 38 gallons)._ Highway driving through the mountains to my cabin, plus a bit of driving in town, and it *_still_* manages 15-17 MPG!
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE I use Toluene in my Focus ST doing 305 BHP. It will do 310 with Toluene mixed into 99 RON (93 Oct in the US) and bump Octane to 105 or there abouts. I can get ethanol free petrol/gas though so I can premix a full tank with 5-10% Toluene. Mannol octane booster is essentially, just toluene. Many of the marketted octane boosters are. 15-17 MPG is low, but US Gallon not Imperial Gallon, would probably be 19-20 MPG in the UK, pretty good for a big heavy 4x4 truck from the 1990s. My 4 cylinder turbo petrol engine does 30-40 MPG driving normally, spirited between 18-25 MPG, on track, between 7 and 10 MPG. Knock off about 3 MPG from my figures to get the US gallon figure.
@@S.ASmith For a very heavy truck with a very tired motor, it's getting WAY better fuel economy than it should be! 😅 There's a government (USA) page where you can look up the fuel economy of vehicles, from present day, back into the 80s. My truck's BRAND NEW fuel economy was 14 City / 19 Hwy / 16 Combined. Back before I started using it, it was only getting ~14 MPG doing the same trips. (which is using 87 octane 15% Ethanol fuel) Toluene is good stuff, as your numbers reflect! Petty damn impressive improvement. I believe the concerns with using it (besides emissions), are that it burns hotter and likely most O-Rings could get dried out from it _(namely, fuel injector O-Rings)._ The latter is a similar issue with running 85% Ethanol, if the vehicle wasn't design for it. Although I think the plastic fuel line are also a point of concern, if memory serves me.
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Indeed. We don't get 85% EtOH fuel in the UK. O rings can dry out, but regular maintenance stops mishaps. And your truck certainly does get very good fuel economy, especially the age of it!
My 2 kopeks. First this engine is fuel injected, so it has the tendancy to level the performances. 2d acetone cleaned everything in the engine, and all the products tested afterwards got a boost from that particular test
I use a high performance synthetic 2 stroke oil in my Rotax 604 motorcycle engine, this engine is a 600cc 4 stroke single and I use oil at the ratio of 150 to 1 . Over high mileage I find bore and piston ring wear to be almost non existent and there is never any carbon deposits in the combustion chamber or top the piston other than a brown stain that just wipes off with a little solvent on a rag. Synthetic 2 cycle oil works well in a 4 stroke at lean ratios to eliminate wear in the cylinder and I 100% recommend it
2-stroke oil dissolves carbon deposits from the rings, freeing them. Stuck rings are bad for compression. Marine 2 stroke oil burns fine in water-cooled car engines. 1-2% is safe
The issue being that the ECU will adjust the amount of fuel released automatically making the tests.. more or less just a test of how effective your ecu is at subtracting fuel to prevent over pressure.
I would love to see you guys combine the additives used in the 3 fastest tests, with the gas to see what that would do for example acetone octane booster and gas with a tad bit of oil to up the compression at the same time.
My dad used to carry a can of acetone when we would go on long road trips and add about 4oz to each tank when we filled up. He said it improved our mileage by about 5 MPG. Pretty impressive for nail polish remover 😅
My theoretical in this termination is the oil didn’t do anything except for lubricate your throttle valve so it can actually properly close so you get more compression and also that shaft there never gets lubricated properly so when it does, it does some wild shit
It went up maybe if you were feeding it fule with oil in it, you squirt some oil in to test bore compression,, that's the same thing, love the videos mate
I wonder if running all the stuff just cleaned the engine and injectors. Maybe if you reran the baseline fuel after all of that and see it it was just the cleaning that made it better.
Few years back, my father put acetone and methanol blend to gas of our moded turbo car and we rised the boost from 27pounds all the way up to 35 pounds without having any knocks in my HP Tuners ( my Chevrolet tuning tool) The methanol doesn't blend with gas but with addition of the acetone it apparently blend with the gas. Don't know how the hell I knew that blend recipe but he lurned that way before 2000s era and internet.
I mix naptha and xylene in with my gasoline to make it higher octane, so i can run 30+psi on "pump" gas 😅 30k miles later , and still runs like a raped ape 😅.. lovethe experimental videos tho guys... keep it up ..peace and love all, keep it rad, stay safe, and build on.. l8r famz
The old timers in my area used airplane gas and a touch of diesel for a little more acceleration and power . Also i tried mothballs once a day or 2 passes you get an interesting result... Старожилы в моем районе использовали авиационный бензин и немного дизельного топлива для немного большего ускорения и мощности. Еще я пробовала нафталин один раз в день или 2 прохода, получился интересный результат...
This was something I was quite surprised to learn actually (when I was reading through a thread on an Acura forum the other day). Why do they add ethanol the gasoline in the States?
I remember when they switched and in tank fuel pumps started failing. I went into a parts store and the had a large pile of new fuel pumps. It was bad news.
With added compression and proper adjustment to fuel to air ratios, higher octane can help boost power. Beyond that, less energy rich fuels promote slightly combustion and fuels with a higher hydrogen to carbon ratio make more power as a rule. Methanol can make about 45% more power than conventional hydrocarbon fuels with increased compression and proper mixture due to the aforementioned properties of higher octane, lower fuel content and high H to C content.
There's a RU-vid setting to add AI created dubbing, which adds a "Language Track" option in the video. I don't know how good the translations are, though. GrayStillPlays videos have it (English by default), in case you want to see how the translations are. The actual dubbing is wild, as it sounds EXACTLY like him still!
2stroke oil is designed to not burn very easily, so that it has great lubrication properties right through the process, and if your cars fuel injection, it will treat the 2stroke in the exhaust manifold as unburned fuel, so it will adjust the injectors for a leaner mixture to suit, which will cause higher combustion chamber temperature and burn all access oil in the exhaust, but might seem less power because of less petrol being used and oil isn't as efficient burn as petrol, but in the process it will burn slower and cause a higher octane combustion, that is smoother and more consistent.
these results could be skewed, as the rank might be emptied and aired but as it's not really cleaned out things might be left and mixed, plus the lines and engine also have some left of previous test... Also: since the engine and lines weren't checked between runs (and exhausts measured) you don't know if the car simply ran better or worse because additive clogged up lines/engine or the opposite, cleaned it (which in all fairness could be great solution for this short run, but you might need to go back to regular fuel to prolong life) -of course measuring the exhaust would tell if you would be putting out more or less poisonous gasses and maybe other unexpected outcomes
Acetone with 2 stroke oil. Acetone should keep everything clean. I would just be worried it would melt some of the plastics used in the assemblies in the fuel system.
Okay I have a strange request, could you use a small washer fluid pump, button/switch, and inject water/ethanol or water/methanol (vodka or windshield wiper fluid) I've seen online stories about water methanol injection, but if you can increase compression with a mix of diesel and gas, run it slightly lean, and use water ethanol or water methanol to clean, prevent knock/ping, prevent predetonation, and also cool the engine while at higher temperatures. I would honestly wire it into the radiator fan so that when the fan kicks on, so does the water/ethanol pump, to help cool and clean the engine during even idle.
My understanding is that the advantage of higher octane is that you can safely add more timing - without doing that there's not much benefit apart from slightly better engine cooling (if needed).
Higher octane is for high compression engines. It is harder to ignite (requires more compression). That is why high compression engines ping and pre-detonate with lower octane gas.
Using two stroke oil with your fuel works well. It will not fowl you plugs etc as long as you use marine grade two stroke oil, as this burns with out leaving carbon. Your engine will run smoother and use less fuel too.
There is another way to Increase the compression and that is after the engine is warmed up take a spray bottle with really cold water and while the engine is running spray the cold water into the intake until it begins to bogg down then stop spraying and Rev the engine up and keep repeating that process a few more times until you don't see anymore black carbon come out the tail pipe the recheck the compression, when cold water hits hot carbon deposits it shatters the carbon off of the valves and valve seats so give it a try, and if you want high octane fuel get some jp6 and add just a cup full anymore than that and you will have a melt down
had a cat less 2.0l i used to run acetone in it, i put 16oz of acetone to 12 gallons of gas. never had a problem with the car ended up selling it but was told the acetone would cause the cylinders to burn hotter and it would burn a hole thru the piston but never did happen and yes performance and mpg increased not by much tho
To cheat on the emissions test with older vehicles here in America we add three gallons of gas and one gallon of denatured alcohol to an empty tank, go run it hot and it will pass. Then right after you better fill it up with pure gas, it runs hot with the denatured alcohol
I'm from Michigan USA and we have regular, mid, and premium fuel. They all have 10 percent ethanol. We also pure gas and e-85. Which is 15 percent gasoline and 85 percent ethanol.
Oil will only improve cylinder pressures in the very low RPM range. Maybe it will idle smoother and be more responsive at idle but not much else. Ethanol only notably improves performance at concentrations higher than maybe 20% and its more noticeable at higher RPMs.
