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Listen to Historic Speakers - from 1924 to 1944 - Part 1 

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More details: historische-elektronik.piranho.... You are watching historic loud speakers with their original sound (not all sound good :)!)
Order: Jacobi Glockenlautsprecher, Gaumont Lumiére Haut Parleur, Telefunken Arcophon 8, Atwater Kent E2 Speaker, Körting Excello Konzert 2, Epoch

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22 дек 2009

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@lineshaftrestorations7903
@lineshaftrestorations7903 3 года назад
Electro-dynamic speakers with their own magnet power supply is something new for me. Both vacuum tube and what looks like a copper oxide rectifiers is way cool.
@Arabhacks
@Arabhacks 13 лет назад
On the Atwater Kent the problem is that the pole pieces are striking. This can be caused by several problems, bad or wrong diaphragm or misadjustment or weak magnetic field or just bent somewhere. Adjustment is done both with screw tension for fine and shim stock and spacers for a wider spacing. This speaker has little bass but no rattle when working well.
@neodonkey
@neodonkey 7 лет назад
That Telefunken sounds flippin marvellous!
@EduardRitok
@EduardRitok 5 лет назад
that third speaker in the box has actually really great sound! :)
@esroberto1
@esroberto1 10 лет назад
These are so WONDERFUL. Thank you so much for taking these videos and for posting them!
@2n918
@2n918 11 лет назад
That Telefunken cabinet speaker is absolutely beautiful! Sounds great as well. The first one is a re-entrant trumpet style, still in use today as a paging/stadium looudspeaker. Very good video, well done. Thanks for sharing.
@AllAmericanFiveRadio
@AllAmericanFiveRadio 14 лет назад
Very nice demonstrations. Just think of the history that came out of those speaker!
@BruceCarbonLakeriver
@BruceCarbonLakeriver 3 года назад
Haha imagine having two of the first one on your old heavy desk - no one would think those are speakers even if you play music through them LOL - but they look awesome :D
@THEScottCampbell
@THEScottCampbell 6 лет назад
THANK YOU for creating and posting this!!!!!
@TimePilot2084
@TimePilot2084 9 лет назад
The Excello speaker at 4:05 is a monster. The amount of metal in that thing is insane. Talk about overkill! "They just don't build 'em like they used to..."
@mumiemonstret
@mumiemonstret 10 лет назад
Oh how beautiful they look! They surely bring the right quality to the old jazz. I wonder how they would sound playing contemporary pop music...
@MisterTalkingMachine
@MisterTalkingMachine 10 лет назад
Many of these speakers can't hold bass properly, as you can notice on some of these. Modern pop music normally has a hell lot of bass, and it may even damage the speakers if not played at a low volume.
@OmegaHellHound543
@OmegaHellHound543 3 года назад
I had an antique speaker like one of these, I don’t exactly remember what model it was or even the make. It fell off my antiques shelf during an earthquake. I was so sad.
@Gez492
@Gez492 4 года назад
Wow at 2.47 that puppy captured the true essence of a wind instrument the Oboe I think , was absolutely alive in my headphones
@CassetteMaster
@CassetteMaster 14 лет назад
Very nice speakers. I do notice some have rubbing problems, unfortunately. The one at 2:04 though is performing quite well, and has good sound. It's neat the see the apature and field coil units operating.
@yondigroup7074
@yondigroup7074 2 года назад
Thanks for the retrospective!
@Threemicsrecords
@Threemicsrecords 14 лет назад
great show
@dustydee8342
@dustydee8342 6 лет назад
amazing history of speakers
@shyleshsrinivasan5092
@shyleshsrinivasan5092 4 года назад
Thanks a lot for this video !
@theh0r5e90
@theh0r5e90 9 лет назад
That Atwater Kent reminds me of Ma and Pa Kettle.
@amb3cog
@amb3cog 6 лет назад
So cool! Thank you.
@nivaldopinheiro
@nivaldopinheiro 13 лет назад
Adorei assistir a esse vídeo,realmente as peças são ótimas,mesmo algumas com um som um pouco ruim,mas queremos o que? são peças com muito tempo de fabricação,obrigado por nos mostrar essas raridades.
@AXOU2203
@AXOU2203 10 лет назад
wonderful
@speakerblowupmanlee5921
@speakerblowupmanlee5921 10 лет назад
Very cool, nice speakers!
@thegameisgamer9438
@thegameisgamer9438 10 лет назад
The second speaker looks cool but sounds a lil scratchy
@histelek
@histelek 13 лет назад
they are driven by a small tube amplifier with variable output voltages, Philips EL6411
@td1238
@td1238 12 лет назад
Several of your speakers are mis-adjusted, either with rattling parts or rubbing voice coils. The Atwater Kent and the last one with the white cone in particular.
@jackpontiac52
@jackpontiac52 12 лет назад
The one at 2:50 sounds GOOD!
@newENIO11
@newENIO11 5 лет назад
1st speaker with a cabinet has a giant balanced armature?
@ciro589m
@ciro589m 13 лет назад
wow! Cool
@camasquil
@camasquil 14 лет назад
Telefunken speaker is the best!
@mspysu79
@mspysu79 12 лет назад
According to a Shazam tag, the song is Royal garden blues, from New Orleans blues Volume 2 by Chris Barber, the second song is Sweet Sue also by Chris Barber from the album The Best Of Chris barber, third song Stevedoors Stop same artist,
@acronus
@acronus 13 лет назад
@histelek Very interesting collection of vintage hi-fi. In these video's what are you driving them with?
@transformingArt
@transformingArt 14 лет назад
Very interesting video. By the way, what is the title of Music you are playing with these speakers?
@ciro589m
@ciro589m 11 лет назад
I want Telefunken speaker! LOL
@christopherward5065
@christopherward5065 7 лет назад
It would be cool to get some engineers to build copies of each design and put them into cabinets so that we can test the ideas a bit more and maybe try them in stereo. The best ones were actually good and detailed.
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 3 года назад
For what its worth they could never compete with modern technology, and the need to have a field coil is quite cumbersome. You can see one speaker at 6:32 needs to use a selenium rectifier to have a DC source to energize the field coils (AlNiCo and similar magnets were not widely used until the 40's). They would never be able to have the efficiency or linearity of a more modern permanent magnet speaker. The permanent magnet is quite useful as, in combination with a low impedance amplifier, allows both efficiency and for the back-EMF to help linearize the speaker cones motion with respect to the audio waveform. They are interesting historically, that's for sure! Quite instructive to see how things were done before anyone had an idea of what a speaker should look like or so.
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 2 года назад
@@mysock351C What people like about them is not their linearity... It's their non-linearity... Music from their era sounds more authentic through them, than through a sterile aluminium cone monitor speaker...
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 2 года назад
@@westelaudio943 If that’s all you listen to then I could see it being desirable, which is why I did not make a definitive statement above. My late grandfather’s Magnavox Astro console did sound kinda cool with the older music, but it would be intolerable for modern recordings, even classical.
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 2 года назад
@@mysock351C You know you can have more than one set of speakers, right?... Most speakers are designed for the music of the era. And yes, classical is quite demanding, that's why most improvements in HiFi gear towards more linearity and lower noise were first marketed to listeners of classical. I think 1950s - 1970s acoustic suspension speakers offer the best compromise between that "old school paper cone sound", decent highs and lows, acceptable linearity and cozy looks. That's why the speakers I build are inspired by those designs.
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 2 года назад
@@westelaudio943 Well _duh_ you can have multiple speakers but the audio is terrible from those in objective terms. There's only a limited scope of music that can be listened to and still have some air of credibility. The main issue is, of course, bandwidth. Same applies with the old school acoustic suspension speakers. Classic rock sounds ok on them, but it also sounds pretty darn good on the overhead PA system at the local drugstore. Its all they play, and I kind of like it. But this is due to the limited bandwidth of the recording. Its a bit like stereo AM quality broadcast. It wont sound any better over full digital as the bandwidth is limited. But for modern live rock, folk, and classical with their extended bandwidth and very low SNR, old speakers fall quite short.
@bobroberts135
@bobroberts135 6 лет назад
It sounds like your over-driving some of these speakers! The cones shouldn't be rattling like they are. Can't you hear how they are distorting?!
@beatleme2
@beatleme2 12 лет назад
cool ! :)
@theexploitsofficial7694
@theexploitsofficial7694 10 лет назад
That telefunken is great
@MangMuang
@MangMuang 14 лет назад
WOW! First and second speaker are awesome where do you get it?
@Karlfalcon
@Karlfalcon 13 лет назад
The diaphragm on :53 looks liable to fall to bits. Does anybody make replacements for those still?
@timpadrick27
@timpadrick27 10 лет назад
How about from the front, on axis, at a proper distance?
@roberte.andrews4621
@roberte.andrews4621 3 года назад
Hey, I just got a great idea on how to keep the neighbor's door from pooping in our front yard!
@oleplanthafer7034
@oleplanthafer7034 2 года назад
Ole Planthafer for 0 sekunder siden Very interesting! Might have been even better with (any)HiFi sources, though, allowing for comparison with standards that regular people can relate to. That might make it easier to fathom the progression in speaker technology on their own terms...?
@fredfungalspore
@fredfungalspore 13 лет назад
As they say A Oldee But A Goodee.
@ilovekfc2
@ilovekfc2 6 лет назад
Mega bass
@MangMuang
@MangMuang 11 лет назад
Where can i get "EPOCH"? I love this
@user-ru5ro1uy4q
@user-ru5ro1uy4q 5 месяцев назад
eBay英国から出品されていますよ
@dave631bnetzero
@dave631bnetzero 13 лет назад
Amazing! The Jacobi Glockenlautsprecher is simply amazing. Gaumont Lumiére Haut Parleur is something that reminds me of a portable phonograph. Telefunken Arcophon 8 sound the best because it is still in its enclosure. The other two I think are missing the enclosure. I would love the hear them in a new enclosure. These are so old and very rare, I would not know how to construct a new enclosure for such special speakers. Fantastic video! (A former Bose employee)
@JD-vl6ut
@JD-vl6ut 3 года назад
damals gab es keine Gehäuse Berechnung
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 6 лет назад
Seems that some of the items are damaged
@brentfisher902
@brentfisher902 Год назад
Speakers are like a sword, a food portion, or a hug...bigger is better.
@lionellinesfan
@lionellinesfan 10 лет назад
are some of these speakers blown ? some sound really scratchy
@MisterTalkingMachine
@MisterTalkingMachine 10 лет назад
The first four speakers are early moving iron speakers, (The piece that vibrates is an iron plate instead of a coil) they were used for radios mainly in the 1920's and barely can handle any bass (The third is going fine though) they weren't meant to do so, like many of these early speakers. The later recordings by Chris Barber featured here have too much low frequencies for this speakers, so the coil hits the bottom of the magnet if playing too loud, or the cone starts to vibrate in unwanted ways.
@lionellinesfan
@lionellinesfan 10 лет назад
thank you for explaining that, i never knew much about early speakers and that's neat information!
@GrayWolfPaw
@GrayWolfPaw 13 лет назад
@transformingArt the song is called 'Wild Cat Blues' from Chris Barber ;) watch?v=kjoTNrSjcVA
@jarredwoods1448
@jarredwoods1448 2 года назад
These speakers all sound like my laptops speaker 🔊 🤣🤣😆🤣
@jbeatles99
@jbeatles99 13 лет назад
3:43 speaker FARTS!
@Malte5279
@Malte5279 11 лет назад
Old Fullrange Speakers
@socksumi
@socksumi 5 лет назад
That last one sounds like it has a rubbing voice coil.
@dondesnoo1771
@dondesnoo1771 5 лет назад
Does the second one kill flies cause not that good as speaker.😁
@histelek
@histelek 14 лет назад
1st from Ausrtia, 2nd from France
@histelek
@histelek 14 лет назад
Sorry, the cd is a copy, I don´t know the interprets
@jungleking9703
@jungleking9703 2 года назад
How would these set sound with modern music played on them? Why is everyone playing only classical music we already know these can handle classic music so play something modern instead.
@pokemonjawatimurpro1
@pokemonjawatimurpro1 6 лет назад
Radio speaker
@WhateverUre
@WhateverUre Год назад
Book writer : prehistoric civilization
@1ukjunglednbraver
@1ukjunglednbraver 11 лет назад
poor bass reproduction
@superhussein
@superhussein 10 дней назад
is this music or these speakers related to nazis?
@Simone-qr6mq
@Simone-qr6mq 7 лет назад
next time use heavy metal or some modern music if you can .
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