Listening to Marillion: Murder Machines - Reaction And Opinion 

I’m not, but thank you so much!

Yes I must!

@@JimNewstead And you did, didn't you Jim. I got the preorder Digipak which comes complete with a DVD about the creation of the album; brilliant. Oh and it's nearly an inch thick with the booklet.

It certainly is.

Very beautiful song! Tears in eyes are OK!

Me too.!!😁

Strangely enough I said those very words about this should be a very successful record but the modern contemporary musical landscape wouldn’t tolerate this sort of music. I then cut it out in the exit for being too “old man grumbling about the state of the world today”!

@@JimNewstead tis a massive shame. Also beware, that because of the subject matter, a lot of stupid comments will be trolling around. I can see them now.........trundling over the horizon.💤💤

Yep..no.1 in charts, but as you said never will.

Any huge corporation, and most governments, would welcome the use of this song and video in their commercials, so I don't think we need fear content control by some entertainment conglomerate.

God awful song and album worst of Marillions career and Hogarths worst vocal performance by a country mile as well.

So, in your opinion, does the meaning of these lyrics and H's very short explanation support the official story regarding the pandemic, criticize human behaviour or stands between? :-?

@@ancadragoslav7613 My opinion? As an immunocompromised chronic leukemia patient, my : personal : stance is to trust the ever changing science as the scientist learn and adjust to how to try to keep the public safe. Yes, I miss attending live shows in indoor venues, and I have only just started going to outdoor shows if I feel comfortably spaced away from others. I am disheartened by the general American fatigued lack of adherence towards mask wearing. Yes, I'm still wearing mine and double mask a KN90 with a cloth mask over when out in public. But that measure is to mostly protect *others*. I do wish those around me still masked up when out in public. If my son where to fly across the continent from Florida to Seattle to visit, I would allow him to stay with us in the upstairs bedroom away from the rest of the house. We would take meals and do activities together. But, I would insist we both mask up, and yes, we would refrain from hugging or giving each other a kiss on the cheek until he had shown to be symptom free for five days, and tested negative. However, this is *my* response to what is going on with the plague. I disagree with those taking less lax measures, but am doing what I can to work around them and *gently* explain why I may not be socializing or getting close while out in public while trying not to sound as though I'm criticizing their choices.

@@IllumeEltanin, thank you for the patiently spent time to write! I was asking you about your opinion... on the meaning of the lyrics (not about your view over the reality around you)!.. :> I wish you take care of your soul at least half this described regarding your body!

@@ancadragoslav7613 Ah, my bad. I believe the lyrics were probably written during the height of lockdown, or pretty close to it. Look at The Rolling Stones video for "Ghost Town" to recall what I'm talking about at that time, if needed. With that point of reference in mind, I think the lyrics very much support what was the official guidance at the time. So many couldn't visit their loved ones in ICU due to the plague, not even when they were literally on their deathbed. Funerals at the time were postponed or done remotely; people couldn't properly say goodbye. I feel these lyrics very much sum up the horror, fear, and hurt not being able to show physical affection to loved ones at the time.

I still fear getting covid again. I have had vaccinnes which is a contentious issue which I am not getting into, but having all the boosters I have a lot of health problem so shielding has made me going out a big thing. Having bipolar it does not help. But yes... Did not see my parents for over a year, they are now 90 and 82. Even when we go I worry but they live 325 miles away. It has been shite for everyone... I cried so much hearing the lyrics, my brush with Covid, I felt like I would die... But I am lucky, very lucky. Please keep my friend.

I've heard it loads now and I still think it's crap.

Yes they are mate, also in NZ, starting to find a few of us marillion fans here - great!

Yes, but we also had this in the first phase of the pandemic, especially in the nursing homes and within multi-family houses. But I agree with you that in some other countries it is much stronger. I definitely had tears and pictures in my eyes when I heard it. I haven't been touched so quickly by a song in a long time. Wonderful work!

Oh I intend to!!!! I’ve got it on preorder so hopefully be able to do it at time of release!

So why is it called an hour before its dark if it's less than hour long?

You don’t know Marillion? They’ve been around for ever, or at least since the mid 80s. I used to know them 35 years ago and then forgot all about them. I was reintroduced via the channel to their magnificence. You should check them out dude.

@@JimNewstead I may have seen the name around, but I'm fairly certain I've not heard their music before. I'll give them a look!

They started out in 1979...they took the name Silmarillion back then after a JRR Tolkin book but had to change it due to copyright etc. So droped the Sil. Their first album was Script for a JestersTear with the then lead singer Fish. In 1985 They realesed a single called Kayleigh and it was no.2 in the chart only beaten by a charity single for the victims of the Bradford fc fire charity. Then in 1989 due to problems within the band he left and Steve Hogart or h as we call him took over...it was a big chance, but he delivered and has now been lead singer for 33 years and with a backtrack of 19 now to be 20 studio album under their belt, they are amazing live and no one album is the same. So if you don't like one try another. Some prefer Fish I prefer h. But also look up Fish as his Solo albums are great to. Enjoy.

If you enter Marillion-land...you are in for something very amazing and unique. That's a promise!

How the Hell can you hear misplaced childhood in this? It sounds nothing like it.

Brave? Oh I don’t know…. Some time!

I think we’re all on the same page there buddy!

Slim????? Slim Jim?????? Really? I’ve put on a bit of weight over the last six months and need to lose it again! You do say the nicest things though!

Look after your eye Jim. To be honest I did not notice you wearing glasses.lol!!!!

I'm going through the exact same experience.

Same here. Four listens and i'm still not sure, plus fearful that they may be losing that killer melody!

@@Katehowe3010 yea although I like it more than I did, I maybe wouldn’t actually say I love it. H’s vocal style/intonation has taken a strange turn the last couple of albums and that’s the main put-off for me. I think that’s also related to their lack of strong melody too - he doesn’t choose to sing many strong tunes anymore, it’s very low-register and a bit warbly if he tries going high. We’ll see what the rest of the album brings

@@timbarnes3728 That's all we can do mate.

Sometimes you just have to go safe

Sh*** the f*** up. This song is a social statement. If it's not your opinion- well, just skip it. But please...(I don't want to write it again: stfu

I respectfully disagree. I think politics are integral to society, music is often a mirror to society, ergo politics will ALWAYS be in music. Don’t buy the music that has a conscience that you don’t agree with, but music as an art form is truly about the artist expressing themselves. If the biggest, most important thing in the world is kinda on your mind, you’re going to have to write about it!

@@JimNewstead I disagree with you. They've always sang about interesting things in the past. Round the world yaughtsman, Donald Campbell and blue bird, Physical abuse in brave, emotional issues like in marbles not this political bullshit I wont be buying it ill download it first. And I'm sick to the back fucking teeth of hearing about Bullshit 19 without my favourite bands banging on about it. hopefully its the only one. Going on about bloody climate change is bad enough.

At the risk of you trolling me, again I say this is NOTHING to do with politics. It is about the life we have ALL lived through the last two years. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it didn’t happen that’s your choice, but I fully applaud a band that can face these uncomfortable and troubling themes and make commentary on them.

@@JimNewstead 100% agree with you. They can write about anything they want to. Lets not waste our time with ignorant and selfish people nobody wants to talk to.

No

@@svennybenny1973 Oh it is.

Ok, I respect your opinion, but we can disagree! Thanks for engaging 👍🏼

I'm catching up slowly. Great tune from an hour before it's dark. Love your reaction Jim. You have a great presence on camera. Thanks for doing these reviews.